How Dopamine Detoxing Changed My Brain
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Does Dopamine Detoxing work - or is it just another fad? I did a 7-day dopamine detox and scanned my brain before & after the experience to see how it affected my brain. And the results were... surprising. Even for me.
Call it whatever you may - dopamine detoxing, dopamine fasting, dopamine resetting. It has become a really popular trend in the self-help bubble and people swear by it. It's supposed to reset your brain, balance your dopamine levels, make you happier, more calm, present and productive.
But does it really work or is it just another fad?
If you're struggling with compulsive behaviors that don't bring you any satisfaction, this might be something you should consider.
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The fact that nobody talks about the book Dopamine Enigma Unveiled, speaks volumes about how people are stuck in a trance.
“If you’re compulsively doing something that you don’t even enjoy doing, you may need a detox.” Damn.. spot on
That's bullshit. People are made this way. To like or dislike things. We have things what HAVE TO be done what these are not always pleasure.
All people are dreaming about life where 100% of the activities are likeable but it is IMPOSSIBLE.
Dopamine detox is prison for human's joy
Playing Elden Ring...
@@FireJach You should read Dopamine Nation
work
@@FireJach u misread the sentence
watching dopamine detox videos are my dopamine....
i was thinking the same haha. how ironic
*Screams in vine*
😂😂💔
the self help trap
But not a bad source of dopamine
Dude, your content is so good
Been learning a lot from your channel too! Thanks man
So good!!
I should join the fun. Soon.
@@leonjhendrix your channel is blowing up! Wow, it’s so deserved too because this is quality
AYY ITS COLE HASTINGS
6:50 "if you're compulsively doing something that you don't even enjoy, you know it's time for a dopamine reset" Really grateful for this 🙏
What is the music in that moment?
Like porn addiction ?
that must be porn for some many people XD at least for me
as a League of Legends player, i can relate
@@antostar3112
Overwatch for me :/
Holy crap dude, this video was like an epiphany for me. I knew something was wrong and didn't even know what it was. Now it makes perfect sense. It also explains why there's a mental health crisis in younger people, who are the most prolific users of gadgets and consumers of media. The saddest thing is it's by design. Technology used to just help us, now it enslaves us.
Mental health crisis in younger people...you mean people getting diagnosed like they are supposed to? I have severe adhd, my body doesn't produce enough dopamine naturally, it's a scientific FACT. Doing this would actually be EXTREMELY bad for me as I'd basically have a severe dopamine crash and wouldn't be able to function.
@@devlinambers9408 you missed the point of the comment. Take your adhd rage elsewhere thanks
@@BatmanBeyondBelief What rage? The rage you implied on text? Congratulations on an inability to read without conveying your own opinions on the tone. Allow me to slow clap.
You allowed it to. It has always been a tool. Nothing more. 😂
I get your point, but seriously technology creators want to design it as addictive as possible so they "enslave" as many people as possible, This, of course, does not mean it is impossible to break out of it or that we are being held at gunpoint
Mom was right it's the damn phone
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Mom is always right 😔
Real.
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I watched this happen to people going through Basic Military Training. They socialized more, letters became priceless, and even more interesting... people became more overtly musical, openly singing any tune for which lyrics could be remembered. Songs would seem to get stuck in the heads of the group collectively. It was quite fascinating to watch these cultural universals manifest themselves. It was like a re-emergence of humanity. I then watched everybody revert within a week of leaving basic. It was rather appalling.
Big oof
Could it be to do with stress responses and distracting themselves from stress, I know people ADHD often sing, humb, whistle, beatbox and drum a lot and it's often to do with having too many stress chemicals going round in them too much of the time, might not be anything like that but I thought it was an interesting thought
@@Cheesepuff8 I don't think so. We had no music. It seems that the soul has a way of crying out for it. One time, somebody was dragging a chair across the floor, and its screeches sounded vaguely like the first three notes of the Jurassic Park theme. That was enough to get it stuck in people's heads. Maybe there is a correlation with stress--- music does have a way of reducing stress--- but I wouldn't say that stress necessarily caused it. In the moment of music, life just seems to have a way of making sense, even if we don't entirely understand why. It synchronizes people as they join in it together. It's difficult (if not impossible) to overstate just how profound of an effect music has.
What branch are you?
@@aaronnelson6699 I don't have the study on hand but they've found humans are roughly 10% - 20% more productive with music they enjoy playing. Seems to get us into motion. They've also found the smell of Lavender decreases productivity by about 10%. Completely unrelated studies, Lavender and Music. I find it fascinating how much small things effect us.
I did a 30 day fast during November and the results were really apparent at the 3 week mark. It was unexpectedly difficult, but the euphoric sensation I gained from something as simple as a stroll outside was so incredible that I feel compelled to go back and make it a permanent change. I’d be interested in seeing brain scans from a 30 day fast! Thanks for the video
Would you mind elaborating on your progress throughout the 30 days?
Nut fast?
@@basedindividual22 huh? I meant a peanut fast since they taste so good. Did something else come to your mind when you read my comment?
@@TasX lol cashews are high fat pretty delicious
@@TasX lol
as an artist, the part which you brought up all the great minds that could be lost to lack of motivation really moved me.
it's absolutely mind boggling to think about. the fact that these devices and apps were developed to be as addictive as possible and are being forced on people to the point where you can't even ride the bus without having a smart phone is a crime against humanity
I was a former artist trust me the world didn't lose much :D
i am losing motivation cause of this bs dopamine. i need to reset my receptors real quick
@@Deuce7Off No such thing. You’re either an artist for life or you never were to begin with! 😄
@@user-pz6mc2oj3f he got drive
Day 1 complete and I feel more present and aware. I also faced the emotions I was distracting myself from and I think that made me feel a lot more calm.
Me too! It's a unique feeling!
You're on UA-cam though :/
how long did u end up doing?
I swear you make this content looks so natural but it must have been a nightmare putting all those pieces together!
Massive respect for your skills
true
Nice to see you included "and if I fall off, just continue and try to get back on track again".
So many just use one failure to quit and indulge instead. Quitting drugs (nicotine too) is similar, just because you used again doesn't mean it was all for nothing, and that you might as well just binge.
@Gabriel Brunner It's fine to use internet for information and needs, but try to keep it away for any other "binging" activities.
It typically takes 7 times to quit something
@@kylaj3602 lol maybe for you not everyone
the fact that i thought this video had millions of views. just shows that this is such an underrated subject for our youth.
this was pretty eye opening for me as ive been feeling unmotivated at this point in my life more than ever. i will try doing this
How's it going now, pal?
"just shows that this is such an underrated subject for our youth", you are sorrily mistaken with what percentages of youtube all the years share 18-25 year age category makes up the largest visitor base of UA-cam with 81%, followed by 26-35 years with 71%. 36-45 and 46-55 age groups come in third and fourth positions with 67% and 66% users respectively it just shows no one cares buddy especially not the parents of the "youths" who give them ipads to shut them up
it does now
This video was the final key to me being able to get out of a lifelong struggle of constant dependence on the phone and distraction. It doesn’t seem like much and it’s just the start but my kids have been screen free completely for 6 days. I have done the detox over this week too and i feel so much more present. This will change the course of my whole family life and my children’s childhood, thank you for being the last piece of the puzzle.
How are things?
KEEP IT UP!!!!
I got your video about how you made $650,000 at 22 in my recommendations yesterday and saved it as a 'Watch Later' as I didn't have time to watch it at that moment, but man I am glad I did! Your videos are amazing and have given me a lot of new motivation to cut out bad habits and start to get more focused on what I want! Such an underrated channel!
Haha very cool! Thanks man!
@@leonjhendrix Something has to suck in your world, you are doing too well. This must be an illusion due to social media. That's the problem with social media, people like you all "successful" making less successful people feel like pos losers.
Good for you you made abynch of money at a young age, keep it to your self. it's just bragging.
Bro I’m 15 and ENJOY watching your videos, they inspire me to do better in life and change my habits and start new things
That’s awesome love hearing that!
I'm curious about the variation on those brain scan measures. What would we expect a control to vary by after seeing the test once already as you did?
Hey,John!Lol
The test seems a little bogus for that reason. Also what the doctor says in the end sounds a bit weird. But as long as it works…
Dopamine fasting is becoming a big topic amongst neuroscientist, I'm sure we're going to see more and more studies. Obviously what I did here was not scientific at all and purely anecdotal, so I'm also super curious how a proper study would turn out 😁
@@leonjhendrix I think a disclaimer would be nice, because the results seem to be based on more voltage = better, not sure if that is the case
@@LiveType The effects are so obvious though that you don't need a perfect test to bring out the results. If you have ever had your internet go down for a whole day, it's really difficult to get though the day.
I've kinds been on a dopamine detox, I usually sit alone in my room and just think until I've come up with the ideas that I need. And I've been doing this everyday for over a year. I will sit down and do nothing but workout and think for 2 hours. I truly feel like I'm more connected to myself and this world. I've also noticed that my adhd isn't nearly as bad as it was. Which might just be like a placebo effect but either way, i truly feel as if I've become better and it's amazing. And I can most definitely focus more
You're literally verbalizing my thoughts! Recently I've been thinking about a perfect society where people were not procrastinating and social media apps didn't regulate their lives so that people could unleash their potential, create new pieces of art and make scientific discoveries. It is crazy how the way technologies have developed actually prevents humanity from moving forward in so many ways.
P.S. Now I want to have my brain scanned the same way you did. 😄
This is the reason why the Amish live the way they do. They're not anti-technology. They're against becoming addicted to it. Living for it. Too many distractions that take you away from yourself. Distractions that erode real human interaction. D e p e n d e n c y.
Just think about taking care of yourself, wishing for a "perfect society" is utopianism and is a childish waste of time that only leads to the desire to control and manipulate others.
@Emularis I lived in Amish central for years. Some feel that way, but a lot of them still get "hauled" by non-Amish with vehicles. A lot of them use electricity, gas, and power tools in their business workshops. They don't have electricity in the home, but they may have electricity or a phone line to an outside-the-home workspace. There are all kinds of loopholes. I used to see a bunch of them using the computers in the library in town. They had a market with a bistro with electricity, lights and everything. I worked in a truss shop with mennonites and Amish, using power tools. They don't see technology as "of the devil" but they're afraid to become dependent on it for every day life. Like all the mongs glued to their phones taking Instagram photos all day.
@@The_Gallowglass it's more about wielding tech as an extension of ourselves and an effective tool, not just letting it placate us and hack into our brain chemistry
@@doobzb5482 Indeed. Don't live for the tool, use the tool to better your life.
I’m so glad you’re getting the recognition you deserve, and I loved the bit at the end where you can barely hold your grin! I’m definitely doing this myself, because I’m addicted to every social media app there is! Thank you so much for making this and inspiring other creators!
Cool to hear! Yeah, try it for a week and see how it affects you. It makes a huge difference for me.
Such a good video. I felt the dopamine hit you had set at the beginning, really obvious. Such a cool video Leon!
Super informative and fantastic story telling dude! I'm inspired. Also you're going to love Dune!
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Dune is life, do not let the mediocre movie ruin it for you, it is much more than that.
Dune was some of the sickest sh*t I've ever seen. From the female- Muslim-analog smiling as she committed a suicide attack, to the glorification of apartheid practices in the mind control scenes, it was disgusting.
It was also disappinting given how poorly the studio adapted the source material, and how little resemblance it bore to the book. For example, the transition from Paul-as-prince-in-training to Paul-as-vanquished-exile was made by the statement: "Go with the flow."
After I saw that, I understood exactly why Hollywood stopped hiring American screenwriters.
The amount of edits and effort in this video is just insane! Its such quality it comparable to tv shows, honestly its better than most of them are imo. Im currently trying this with 1 day a week!
I sent u a dm on insta, would love to chat!
Yoooo this is the real mr beast, wtf this has like no likes
massive W
wait what Mr Beast?! what are you doing here
Damn, this is such a bad ass video that even mrbeast got in on this, congrats Leon! Also, mrbeast, I love you're videos, your kindness really goes a long way, thank you for your generosity to people ❤
oh shit
As a neuroimaging scientist (in training) this fascinating to watch! I've been trying a handful of these things on my own and have already felt a lot better on the anxiety front. Less general "tightness" in my chest with worry, less hung up on making my work perfect and more focused on simply making progress and completing things I feel are important. Also as someone who has lived my whole life with chronic sleep problems I can absolutely attest to the getting back into reading, coincidently specifically with Dune! I finally started reading again before bed, beginning with rereading the first dune book after nearly 5 years. about 4 months later and I have plowed through the series and am working through book 6, Chapterhouse, and I'm sleeping way better.
One book you might want to read is called London. Fascinating history of the UK going back to the time of the Druid’s.
I went back to my favorite book from 3rd grade - Ruby Holler. Also, have you heard of Dr. Gominak?
You know. When the Typhoon hit us, I literally had no technology on besides books, pets and literally socializing with people in the house. It makes you really stop to think, and see nature as it is. How green, calm and serene. I had no power for 3 days, and when it came back, I actually felt much better and present. Imagine 7 days of doing what Leon has told us. I suffer from procrastination way too much it affects my quality of work or if I'm working at all in the midst of a financial crisis, and personally this video speaks to me in a genuine and strategic kind of way. Thank you, Leon. Your stuff is underrated.
Again with another banger! The way you tell stories is amazing brother, genuinely was engaged the entire time 😄
Dopamine detox is a real game changer, once you get the hang of it.
Everyone who is trying: Keep going, you got this 💪🏻
Found your channel last night and it's so good! I'm total with you on the loneliness feeling. After I was medically discharged from the armed forces I find it hard being in my own company after spending years living, eating, sleeping and training with other people
Welcome to the crew!
I think the long-term goal should be restriction, not elimination. It also matters what content you are consuming during your internet searching time. As a chronic "researcher" with OCD I can question and ruminate upon pretty much anything, since I haven't been researching, no matter how strongly I feel the urge, I'm starting to feel myself heal... hope this message inspires others to do the same.
As someone with severe ADHD as well as a lot of other disorders and mental health issues, I have to to that a dopamine detox absolutely works, and I mean WORKS. I was forced to be on a partial dopamine detox for 71 days (the second half of that was pretty close to a full detox) for reasons I won't get into. My focus pertaining to school work and things like that wasn't too much better, but I had no insomnia and my sleep schedule was amazing, I even woke up on my own every morning at the same time more or less. I also noticed that I had an absolutely massive increase in wanting to do certain projects including cleaning my room and working on my bikes and computers which was insane. When I got home however, within the next three days I was pretty close to normal tho. As soon as I got my phone I noticed that I could literally watch all my vices/addictions (besides the serious one) come back full force which was a crazy experience, and as my vices/addictions went back to normal so did all the other benefits of the detox. I didn't address it too much because jerking off and watching UA-cam was the absolute least of my worries at the time...all I'll say is I had much darker and deadly things I was trying to stay away from lol.
send me all your dopamine
So not kidding are you saying people should try it? Or are things worse after returning to “normal” life?
@@Seeker0fTruth The point is, what you consider "normal life" is what's wasting your dopamine. You have a limited supply, basically a pool. Pissing it away on garbage like Facebook, video games etc. depletes it incrementally, so there's little left for "big stuff" like projects. This is all by design. You got a dopamine release when you saw my reply to your comment. There's nothing "normal" about being glued to a phone all day. They've engineered it so that you get a small dopamine release, which keeps you engaged. If you retained more dopamine, you'd have more to be engaged in things that really matter. Food, music, anything pleasurable creates a release. Check out Dr. Andrew Huberman on here, he does a great job explaining it.
@@Seeker0fTruth Not exactly sure what ur saying but I mean that if anybody actually did a full dopamine detox, they would see massive benefits and increased quality of life. Once you quit the detox it becomes crystal clear how much it was benefiting you, as most of the said benefits will fade away very rapidly.
ADHD doesn't even exist and has no observable nor credible criteria for diagnosis in medical science, it's basically cynical pharmaceutical entities once again creating new profitable avenues by turning what is poor discipline, poor parenting, poor willpower into a "condition", feel free to check on pubmed and you'll see there's no credible peer reviewed publication that supports ADHD as an objective identifiable illness.
Loved this video! For those going 'back to normalcy' from the strict dopamine reset, you might find it useful to consume media that only engages one sensory stimulation at a time first. I.e podcast where it's just audio, or when watching video I sometimes kill sound and turn cc on (I use this trick when i reaaaally wanna watch something but went past the quota/assigned timeslot of the day. It sort of feels more like reading with visuals and makes me less likely to binge more videos after that).
Honestly I have really let myself go the past couple years. I could say that life is so much more enjoyable when you actually receive dopamine from the right things. A lot of people don't believe this but you can actually be much happier just doing very simple things in life like reading learning walking in nature going to church and a honest days work. These things are all dopamine producing activities. And there's much other things too like having a glass of water using the toilet and having a shower. When I was around the age of 20 21 years old I was so good at keeping my mind out of all the unnecessary dopamine-producing activities. Especially things like smoking weed and porn. Those are killers of joy. I found when I really just filled my life with the simple things i could enjoy doing my daily habits very much. I really looked forward to reading about something new and even taking my nightly dump. Also food plays a big role in this too. Eating vegetables lots of them and other simple healthy foods really lowers your dopamine production. Which wodens your receptors. Having this capability enabled me to have a huge interest in seemingly boring things like reading and creating ideas.. and just enjoying fresh air. But most importantly it really enabled me to enjoy sorting out my deep emotions. I would write out everything im feeling. I really became familiar with each feeling I had and found there was always a reason for each one. I could use my feelings as a driving force in my life rather than something that burdens me. So many people have a habit of going for a high dopamine activity rather than dealing with their naturally occurring feelings. But all of this combined really made me dig deep into myself and know myself well. I knew exactly what I felt like doing. And I was naturally aligned to do it. I could come up with long term visions and really see the path to reach it. Reaching each goal was satisfaction. Taking steps to get there was like scrolling through each UA-cam short except instead of feeling the depression and guilt of doing nothing which spurred anxiety, it was the opposite. I felt amazing being on the right path to success. I could read such hard to read books and actually vibe with the deep knowledge they provided. Imagining things into reality that I've learned. Each chunk of knowledge was another element to build a complete vision. I worked out how to start a restaurant actually. I learned every aspect of it. I really was on my game. But then things took a turn for me. I was scammed by my investor and lost everything basically. I felt so terrible. After working 100 hours a week for about 8 months I received nothing. I had started a bad habit of vaping. And just let myself go. I started just spending 5+ hours a day online on mindless videos. Just clicking. No goals. I stopped eating so healthy and started a pizza delivery job. I started smoking weed again. It just was a downward spiral. It was like I lost the ability to read and have those big visions. It wasn't fun or fulfilling anymore. I didn't feel like going outside and didn't keep up with habits I once enjoyed. But I'm changing now for the better. I'm going to actually fast for about a week. Cutting out all electronics and only eat healthy foods. I'll write and pray daily. I'll work everything out. I realize through this experience most people are living with an overestimated lifestyle. They aren't enjoying the basic things that we where given that dopamine to keep a hold of. Rather UA-cam drugs and sex steals it away. It makes your dreams a dark cloud. But we can do this guys. Let go. As a Christian i call these things strongholds. Strongholds are like chains that don't allow you to move forward spiritually. I pray that we all can be free from our strongholds. Soon I'm starting a hotdog cart and I'll be putting the simple things first. God and family are gonna remain my top 2
Failure is only a stepping stone to success! Inspired reading your story. God bless! You can do this :)
All the best. I wanna ask does cutting out masturbation also makes a huge difference?
@@catn9608 thanks so much!! You're absolutely right. I appreciate you reading it 😊
@@hennythingispossible11Yes absolutely. I will be truthful with you. Masterbation and sexual sin was probably the biggest stronghold I've faced in my life. Its very important to be in control of that part of yourself, or it could control you. And thank you🙏
@@peanutbutter3578 thanks...im 24 so im def struggling to cut all that out...but I'll try my best
Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see at a glance wealth, a great career, purpose is the result of hard work and hustle over time. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life
You are right, to be a successful person in life require him or her of hard work and time
The thing about been successful is working toward it and not going the other way round
You're right. Been thinking of going into gold and cryptocurrency
It's obvious everyone is going into investing cryptocurrency especially BTC
Talking about been successful. I know I am
blessed if not I wouldn't have met someone is as spectacular as Nancey Royce
Let's not gloss over how much weight you're putting up on those back squats!!
Hot bod
Wow, this is amazing, I’ve always struggled with consistency so I’ve had a lot of good and bad points in my life, a constant up and down hill battle for the past 3 years.
but recently, I’m starting to finally recover and get my mental health back.
EVERY TIME I take a break from social media it helps me so much, but I keep going back because I’m a people pleaser and I want to upload, post, comment, everything like that but it’s not good for me to be on UA-cam and other social media platforms so much.
I’ve always just wanted to permanently quit social media and never go back but it’s hard!
One thing I love doing is watching educational videos on UA-cam for rock climbing, figure skating, swimming, skating, etc but that always turns into watching other videos that are not educational…
The weird thing is, I always get these inspiring videos of quitting social media or spending less time on your phone every single time I come back to social media.
And if that’s not a sign, idk what is.
Also, when I took a break from social media for 2 months, I was on an amazing schedule waking up at 8am and going to bed around midnight. I was so active and I enjoyed my life!
But as soon as I went back to social media everything went downhill again and instead of taking steps forward I took 10 steps backward.
But, I can still redeem myself and this time I WILL NOT GO BACK, just like I promised myself in my journal a few months ago.
This deserves an award. This clearly backs up the fact of social media and phone usage causing anxiety and depression. This knowledge should be in high schools. There would probably be less school shootings.
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Great content! I am on day 70 of my personal dopamine reset, and I havn't felt more alive ever in my life.
also... VERY IMPORTANT TO MENTION ---->Dopamine is not JUST a neuro transmitter, is a neuro MODULATOR, and is far more important than nearly any other neuro chemicals as it is the source for the creation of nearly every other one. Andrew Huberman has FANTASTIC podcast with plenty of easily digestible information that very clearly explains the processes that dopamine is responsible for. Not to take away from the great presentation you've offered, but just felt that this is a bit of a misconception that actually helps explain the dopamine cycle a little bit better.
I don't get it how can you be on a dopamine reset when you are watching and commenting on UA-cam videos?
@@fightlifeuk well, tbh, watching videos and commenting, as it turns out, has nothing to do with dopamine my friend. Also to put the point where it needs to be neither was the video watched, nor commented on, on a smart phone. I'm at my workstation, and on breaks I watch videos etc, follow up on comments. Completely shutting myself off from positive improvement and watching others experiences has little to do with dopamine really at the end of the day. The dopamine reset was actually removing myself from social media and eliminating my cell phone from my life, which helped my ADHD immensely. Coincidentally both have also had profound positive effects on my day to day life and mood. Hopefully that answers your question.
@@fightlifeuk You should watch some of Andrew Huberman's podcasts, he is a PhD Neuroscientist and tenured professor at Stanford. They are accessible to everyone and are meant for the improvement in the quality of life for everyone that watches. Before you cast shade on my comment, approach with couth, as this is where most of the information I have gleaned online has come from. On top of being easy to understand for the most part, it is both educational and instantly useful in most cases. Namaste.
It is ironic that you mention Hubberman here, since he more than once said that the whole.concept of "dopamine detox" is a scam
@@AndreLuis-gw5ox exactly why I used the term reset as opposed to detox. Also personal would mean that I'm doing something that I believe will better my life. Why don't you ask me what I'm doing instead of just trying to be an internet bully/troll. Passive aggressive comments to random indivuduals are honestly far and away the most pointless thing you can do with your time.
I would recommend watching Andrew Huberman if anyone wants to understand Dopamin he explains it in a way that you don't need to have a scientific background to understand the main points and puts the focus on implamentation. He also talks about the influence of morning sun light on sleep regulation. He does exellent interviews with sleep experts and addiction experts.
I second that recommendation. Dr. Huberman is excellent and a well-qualified expert who is great at explaining these concepts (dopamine, stress, sleep, nutrition, etc) to the normal listener.
Andrew Huberman is GOAT
I watch him all the time and I’m 79😂( Andrew Huberman)
Man, I feel like a slave to my phone. I'll wake up in the morning and spend 1-2 hours on my phone. Throughout the day, I constantly check my phone while waiting for the extra hit of dopamine. I can't even commit to a task anymore. I used to be able to go to the gym and workout for 2 hours straight, but now I struggle to stay there for an hour. Even writing this comment is a difficult task. I'm just sapped of motivation. I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but I have this feeling of emptiness. It's like i have a purpose in life that i can't seem to find because my phone is just standing in front of it. I don't want to go out like a bitch, I want my life to be remembered. I hate being lazy. I'm just sitting here rotting away and I'm going to fix that. I'm going to find my purpose and never fall prey to this shitty technology system again. Good luck to everyone out there, and no I won't be replying to any messages because I'm deleting this app.
He is actually so true , I've experienced all the things as an affect of too much dopamine , I got carried away by social media and procrastinated all my assignments, projects and homework as a lack of motivation and not getting more dopamine then before I had nerve impulses and restlessness, it's like a drug, but when I failed my semester I realized what had happened, that day when I quieted social media and other high dopamine sources it felt lonely and depressing but gradually with time it felt so much better
How you feel after a long Dopamine detox?
Dude trust me you’re literally the next up youtuber been watching ur videos and even catching up on ur older ones that I missed you’re a big inspiration of mine been here since 6k keep it up brother.
Full credit to you, mate. I expect I'll be recommending this video to a number of clients presenting with unwanted/unhealthy compulsive behavioural issues (mostly internet/porn addiction, etc) to assist their understanding of dopamine in the holistic context in which you've so clearly presented here.
Seconded. I'm just imagining what one of my really compulsive clients might be like after a week on this routine. And I'm just imagining how well I could show up for him if I do this for a week, too.
Thank you for bringing this to light. I'm a biomedical engineering student, and I am always glued to tech whether it's working or entertainment. I will definitely try this and try to cut back slowly instead of abruptly. You definitely deserve more subscribers, and I'm here for the long haul and great content to come. :)
Greetings, human.
Would you recommend this as a career option to a fellow Indian?
@@deadpanacea It depends on what you want to do. I personally like biomed eng. Don't force yourself to do something you don't want to do.
Awesome video!! I loved the part where you recommended observing, or witnessing the urge to grab your phone or snack on something sugary, instead of immediately acting upon it. Separating the observation from action is an incredibly important mindfulness practice. Asking yourself “why am I feeling this?” or even just being aware of it really takes away from the trigger’s power, and could lead to really significant insight. Really well done video :)
Man I’m disabled and would love to be able to reset myself. I’m so perpetually sad because I am held back by my body, symptoms, and inescapable financial situation. I’m bed bound for weeks straight sometimes, if I had the opportunity to eat well & walk outside safely, I’m sure my quality of life would just skyrocket right away. It’s unfortunate that the folks who need this stuff most are met with barriers
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Day three of my daughters force, dopamine reset. First night she sat and read to me info on her history project, second night spent more time on her homework, third night her and I watched a veterinary video. This video should be mandatory in school health, and science at least. Thanks for the such important information.
Keep going Leon. Your videos are really helpful, fun and well produced. And You currently are criminally underrated, but with this level of consistency your success is inevitable. You know the initial grind is part of the UA-cam Journey, but you will come out on top sooner than expected, i 100% believe in you!
Thanks, will do!
I enjoyed this! I recently travelled for 6 months on the road, and the usual time sinks disappeared. Felt more centred and calmer than I ever have due to it.
You used our dopamine addiction to tell us a story about dopamine haha love it, every second of this was entertaining, taking notes for my next video 📝
... or am I?
Haha yes! Glad you enjoyed it!
I kind of stumbled onto this on my own recently. Last Christmas (I gave you my heart - no but seriously) I was in Athens and there was a huge snowstorm in January. It snowed non-stop for about 3 days, and there was so much snow that literally everything in the city shut down for about a 7 days. During that time, all my friends and I were stuck at our respective homes with no way to meet up with each other or do anything. Literally. Everything was closed, including the streets, and it was so cold outside (with the exception of maybe 1-2 hours in the afternoon) that there was nothing to do. Obviously for the first couple of days I just watched movies and played video games all day. But I was also alone. As in, no friends, or roommates, or family around. I was just in a house completely alone. And then suddenly, around day 3, I stopped playing video games and watching movies all day, and looked around my house. I noticed I had some stuff to do, like clean some dishes and put in some laundry. Already this felt strange, because I usually don't notice stuff like that until the dishes are spilling out of the sink and there is a mountain of clothes in my room that need washing. Then I noticed I had a bunch of books around the house, interesting ones that I had always wanted to read but never got around to, like the Tao Te Ching, War and Peace, and even more easy fun ones like Dune (coincidentally) and Frank Miller's graphic novel 300. So, for the first time in probably 4 years or so, I thought, "why not?", and I actually started reading again. By the end of the 7 days, I had meditated about 30 minutes to an hour for 4 days, a practice I have kept up since then, but that I had repeatedly told myself before that point that I wanted to practice daily but just "never had the time" for. I had also read (almost) 7 books in 4 days, and I had not managed to finish even a single book in the last 4 years before that.
So what happened? Well almost exactly what you describe in the video. There was a noticeable change in my mood, my calmness had improved, and even the way I thought was much more clear and straightforward, like things would just click without a lot of effort, and conversations with my friends when we finally met after the snowstorm all of a sudden felt easy and fun again. I also noticed, like you so appropriately pointed out in this video, that I was sleeping much better than I had in years, and felt much more rested and at peace.
It was honestly the happiest I had been in probably the last 8 years of my life, and I honestly can't and wouldn't want to try to describe it to people, but you've done a pretty good job doing so in this video. I know that to someone who hasn't experienced this it may sound a bit sad that the happiest I have been in such a long time was when I was isolated and alone for 7 days straight, but we need to have time for ourselves. We need to give our brains time to think and process life and emotions. Never before in human history have human beings had this much entertainment and distraction at their fingertips at all times of the day. It's not natural. I had also felt this way during a trip to a friend's cottage last summer in Greece, where we only used our phones for music but would otherwise either be spending our time at the beach, playing basketball, talking with each other, playing backgammon, or going on walks into town all day long. And obviously drinking beer. Lots and lots of beer. And after 2 weeks of that, I felt so happy and at peace that I honestly never wanted that vacation to end.
This is not the first time something like this has happened to me either, where just through instinct I stumble onto something by experience alone, then I found out 6 months or a year or 2 years later that it was actually a fantastically healthy and sought-after practice that people are starting to stumble on to. I don't know if it's just the collective response to our modern way of life, or if my instincts are so in tune with what my body and mind need that I just figure these things out on my own, but any time I listen to my body and do what my spirit and mind and whole being are telling me I need, I always seem to find myself having some of the best experiences of my life. I'm definitely going to pursue this more.
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wow.. when you talked about the parasocial relationships and dopamine with the constant social media interaction.. i felt that.. a few days ago my router died on me and it took spectrum 3 days to get to me to give me a new one. i did nothing but watch movies on my pc for those days.. my normal routine is wake up at 5:40am, piss, get dressed, brush teeth, leave the house at 6am, get to work between 6:15-6:30am, work till 3:30-4:00pm, get home around 4:30, immediately hopp on the computer and watch youtube videos and movies and game and be on facebook until midnight(ish) then crawl into bed. repeat.. something as simple as not being able to get online besides on my phone which isnt the same, not being able to game, no youtube, no facebook, no twitter, no netflix, no internet of any kind and ONLY watching movies on my pc, it was weirdly depressing. my house sounded quiet and uncomfortable, i had crazy anxiety, i was in a bad mood, i felt like my time away from work in between shifts was wasted which made me feel unrelaxed at night which made my work days feel longer and harder, which added to my bad mood.. it was strangely and strongly bad mentally.. i think i need to dopamine detox.. especially being an ex heroin addict (5 years clean).. my receptors are already all fucked up.. I'm on suboxone which is a combination of a huge help and a massive thing badly fucking my physical brain up from the prolonged use.. my mind is already not alright and adding the screen addiction on top of it makes it so much worse mentally.. I'm gonna try a screen detox and a dopamine detox. I'm legitimately curious whatll happen.
Great video! You are absolutely right! I cut out almost all of my social media for the most part. My husband and I have started a clothing business and we just opened our first retail store a couple months ago, and I wrote and published a book during the pandemic and am working on book 2 now. UA-cam is my only issue as I see it as "learning" when I listen to what other people have to say, so I have to remember to keep the videos to a minimum. But I am proud of how far I have come :) and you should be too!
You’re so talented! Thanks for this and how comprehensive you made the information. My take:
1. Gym scene was scary af with all that testosterone 🤣
2. I quit social media for the entire festive season last year and it was amazing, the most rested and wide eyed I’d felt in a long time. My work makes me need to be on but im trying to figure out how to delete most of my online presence and disconnect for most of the day every day.
Haha, yes... me too. That gym scene gave me total anxiety. Time for a Dop-a-men detox!
@@michellereneebernard I laughed way too hard at this! 🤣🤣🤣
@@hazelchief-rabbit5903 Word play is MY dopamine. ;o)
@@michellereneebernard haha I love it! 😆
Being an introvert, it's not that I'm lonely, it's more that I talk to myself constantly in my head and I can't turn it off so I need something in the background so that I can drown myself out. Also I love learning so I'm constantly listening to audiobooks or crypto videos or ted talks or whatever so that I'm always taking in new information...
Yes, I've been trying this for so long and I fail every time. As an engineering student, I feel this could be a great way of getting through the rough time and furthermore being able to push yourself farther than you thought possible, but to stick with it is the difficult part. No junk food, No Media.
As someone with severe ADHD I feel no dopamine from any of this, only substances or endorphins give me that feeling. I watch these videos to avoid my anxiety. I don't feel any satisfaction or excitement from them. If anyone else feels this way I suggest you get checked/treated for ADHD. You may feel broken compared to other people but it's entirely normal for the disorder. One of the primary problems with ADHD is a lack of proper dopamine production. It's a severely misunderstood disorder that is generally only thought of when kids do poorly in school. There's much more to it, get tested and get help if you need it.
If you often have the feeling that, eventhough you want to do something, you just physically can't, you might have ADHD.
"You have so much potential, why don't you use it?" "You're just lazy" "Everybody else can do it. Why can't you?"
Sounds familiar? Get checked out for ADHD
@@derAtze where can i go that accepts nevada medicaid? Im 20 and both parents don't believe in mental health treatment at all , ive never really been allowed to be on my own. Now I'm older and i struggle to do anything in order or find the correct way to do normal things in everyday life. It's destroyed all my relationships like friendships and causes me to dissociate a lot with reality. I don't know what else to do since therapy is only doing so much.
@@Implosion-Gaming I can't help you with medicaid, i live in Germany, so that's quite different here 😅 sorry about that.
But with a thing like ADHD, which can be treated so well, it might be worth paying for it out of pocket if you can afford it. The medication that you can get yourself prescribed really, really helps (at least for me, and in the current circumstances). I don't know if that's possible in the US, but your therapist might be able to diagnose you. You can certainly ask them about it.
@@derAtze How did you do it in Germany? :) Which kind of doctors did you address?
@@sallys0000 in Germany most therapists and all psychiatrists can give the diagnosis, but even here there are month long waitlists and many psychiatrists don't take in new patients or give out diagnoses at all. On the other hand, if you wait, you'll get the costs paid for by the mandatory health insurance. Also, if you're already in therapy, normally you'll get diagnosed quite easily.
Edit: just realised i answered a different question 😂
I just called a lot of doctors in my town until i found one that had an open slot in the near future. Took a few days, but was worth it
Doing things like this are like doing diets for 7 days then going back and eating like crap again and gaining all the weight back. It's important to make slow and steady changes that will be sustainable for the rest of your life.
One interesting thing to notice is that all the positive mentioned benefits can be the result of exercise and meditation. Meaning it was not the fact that you stopped using social media that influenced your brain image results but doing the other things such as exercising and meditating along with connecting with others more physically.
good catch
That's exactly it. Exercise and diet are the major contributors.
He was exercising before - just with podcasts.
Mediation is mostly bs
@@alexbecar977 Dopamine Detoxing is mostly bullshit too.
Watching for a while and never commented - Sometimes I know how a single thank you can mean so today I want to say a BIG THANK YOU Leon for putting that out there!
I remember the first time we met in Sydney, starting this peer group, you were already the Leader that you are right now. I'm so happy to see where you are heading right now, having found your partner and creating excellent videos - I'm looking forward to each of your videos!
Would you say that you are happy with what you are doing right now?
Hey man hope you're doing well!
Happy than I've ever been with what I'm doing. And even more excited about where I'm going! I know I'll be doing this for the next 10 years.
@@leonjhendrix That is the feeling I get when I see your videos - EXTREMELY happy for you!
Excited to see how you evolved over the next 10 years without getting older ;-)
0:06, haha jokes on you, i have a dopamine deficiency. I felt nothing.
Listening to this on repeat will change your mindset on what's more important and can help adapt to making it a habit because what you consume makes you who you are
This was super informative! Albeit, I'm still looking forward to the day someone makes a neurodivergent friendly version of this. A lot of ADHD is dopamine deficiency and the symptoms caused by your brain trying to make up for the missing happy chemicals. I have a similar problem of scrolling/needing constant stimulation, but removing all the stimulation suddenly I think would just produce understimulation, and anyone who's experienced ADHD understimulation knows it's fucking awful.
Yeah I was thikning about ADHD and "dopamine detox's", I think it's unfortunately very hard and unrealistic for someone like that to consistently do the detox and not go straight back to normal days later.
Also with ADHD I know i'm often less motivated when I've done less rewarding things, so I wander if sometimes sudden harsh detox's like this can cause very bad binges straight after.
I'm sure Dopamine detox's work but I think it's no where near as easy to do them successfully as a lot of people think, escpecially for the people with ADHD or other Dompamine problems.
@@Cheesepuff8 Glad I'm not alone in this! I'd definitely do the thing where i spend a solid 8 hours hunched over a puzzle while listening to a gay audio drama after.
Yes,Im one.
I do think the Electronic Devices,are worth getting off of,Im addicted,wen5 way up during Plandemic Isolation.and started process,just weeks ago.
Other forms of getting Dopamine,both natural...ie:.big open spaces,and ive been trying medications as have Bipolar 2,and ADHD.
The bipolar med Lithium,and Wellbutrin made me fucked up,fatter,Welli caused a hypo mania.rash,flu symptons,etc
Passed off as 6 months if trying combos.
Then found out about different types of ADHD stimulants.......hmm
Look up Dr.Charles Parker.
He gets the nuances of different brains...
maybe you could do a "light" version where you eliminate a different category every day (no youtube one day, no junk food the next day, etc). it would still give you the experience of mindfulness and recognition of patterns without completely understimulating you
@@Cheesepuff8 I ended up doing something similar to these "detoxes" before they were famous (think going to vacations) - it's hard to not binge immediately afterwards. You definitely need to keep intentionality for (much) longer than the detox itself
Thanks buddy this is the video I was looking for. Been cutting out certain habits but this gives a much more complete analysis of what so many of us are going through.
Wow this was so amazing, and the brain scans were the cherry on top! Awesome, I've been wanting to do a dopamine detox but I was questioning whether it was really beneficial or not, this definitely motivated me to want to try it even more!
No more social media. No more excuses. No more time wasted.
That was really powerful and challenging.
Leon's suggestion for understanding what was underneath feelings such as boredom and lonliness was to practice mindfulness. I've been doing yoga and meditation for more than a decade. In my experience neither of these are a substitute for psychotherapy (although they might be for you...who knows?). I think that for many people (maybe not everyone) finding the right theraputic model and therapist is one of the keys.
There are different kinds of meditation. Are you pushing thoughts aside? Don't do that...
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What does the even mean
@@rkoon22masturbation...
Masturbate
@@rkoon22beating the meat
I did this for a week and I was feeling confident, so I thought "i can watch the occasional youtube video when i have time".
by the second week, i lost about 2/3 of my progress and began slowly slipping more and more into my old ways, and the nail in the coffin was when I stayed the night at a friends house. now not only was I doing a lot of fun activities, playing games, i also crushed my previously completely rigid sleep schedule. I would literally go to sleep when my family was about to start a movie because it was going to be too late for me to go to bed in time.
the solution was to eliminate content consumption of any kind, and not to introduce it again. I need to completely rewire my brain to seek doing things instead of watching things and being stimulated in some way.
no content, no games, no electronics for any purpose other than necessary work and no junk food/comfort food. the only dopamine i can get is from human interaction, and the satisfaction of completing a project. im not just going to do this for 1 week, this time, im gonna do it for 3 weeks.
i noticed how much better i was with content consumption after a week of camping, but i ended. up falling back on my old ways because I let it rear its ugly head in my life again, and because that releases more dopamine than most other things unless my brain is trained to not receive dopamine from those sources, they will ALWAYS be a problem.
One of the best videos on the subject. Thank you for addressing this topic with so much compassion, we all are better for it. Your diligence to not just state a problem but develop a solution with structure is a gift. its also great that you use your face to connect to your viewers. Limbic resonance is extremely important in teaching and/or feeling connected and is best facilitated through eye contact :) Thank you for bringing your all to your work!
I discovered your channel yesterday, and absolutely love what you are doing! Keep up the good work.
Same!
So cool! Thanks man
Same here
I see you every where
Love this content man. Awesome how you weave a form of education throughout your story telling with two different timelines (story form, and you sitting at your desk talking about the topic)
I really needed to see this. I'm glad my friend shared this with me. Thanks, Leon.
Leon would you please do a video about your favorite nonfiction books ?
I can share it at some point
I just want to thank you for everything you do Leon .
😁
This video is really good ! You can see all the work that is behind it and most importantly, you seem so authentic and real with everything 🙏🏼 keep going !! Great work and it was also amusing to watch :) I have this video in my watch later playlist for a longer time now and I am happy, that I watched it now ☀️
Phenomenal video, thank you so much for including the brain scans.
Quality content 👌
Those brain scan results were pretty incredible to see, especially seeing "tangible" results for yourself to ponder. I've been cycling dopamine restriction for a while now and I seem to relapse porn, vaping and gaming when I become content with my mental health but every time I go back to being disciplined it is a lot easier to reject certain behaviours now that I can clearly corelate the mental/physical disadvantages. I recommend everyone try it because you can actually spectate your emotions while they happen, they become very strong and then your brain begins to test you. Its almost as if your brain takes the drivers seat. For example, if you stop porn for more then a few days you will notice how much of an annoyance it is to feel horny hahaha. Great video.
Yeah, all these things expose you to a lot of neurodeterminism, aka you can observe how much we are actually controlled by our neurochemistry.
If quitting Porn and Social media alreay shows you how much youre bound by neurochemistry, imagine what quitting drugs feels like.
The metacognition and stoicism you gain from exposing yourself to situations where your "brain sits in the drivers seat" because you become aware of all the software that controls your active conscious, you can anticipate and manipulate it to further your discipline and selfcontrol, the key component of stoicism
Markus Aurelius, one of the worlds most famous stoicists is also histories most well documented morphine addict up to the point of his death.
unfortunately these brain scans are pretty bs, you cannot interpret EEG results like this and the way they were conducted was super unscientific
@@neotronextrem great comment honestly, often think about this, it’s almost like retaking (some) of the drivers seat once you’re aware of it
amazing experience, amazing video, amazing sense of humour. you rock, man
Great video
love the vids
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Thank you soooo much. I diagnosed myself as having ADHD with hyperfocus. But after seeing your video, I'm almost relieved to think that I might simply be a smart person who loves to learn, but now have built up a dopamine addiction because of the internet. Soooooo I'm going to try the dopamine detox experiment asap.
Nice in theory, but if you change so many variables at once, it’s extremely difficult to attribute any change observed to anything specific. The changes could be from meditation, journaling, dopamine detox, but virtually impossible to say which one. A better experiment would be to change nothing except for the dopamine detox.
bruh except the point of dopamine detox is to change so many variables at once
exactly... he should've done the same 7 days with Facebook and UA-cam, and maybe the brain would have even better results
Lol....better experiment sure, but this is to make you better, not to figure out what miniscule thing helped the most....
That's so stupid lol
It's been a few months since I quit music, and 8 months since I quit Social Media entirely. My life has changed for the good. My relationships with other people have strengthened, I've become positively social, less politically polarized and more perceptive. I wouldn't say I'm achieving great things in life, but I certainly have more time and energy to work on big things, and I'm constantly growing. I just lag a little on popular trends, and don't find memes funny anymore.
What do you mean by "quit music"?
I did the same,with nofap added
Sigma grindset
@@noahschoeneck7795 music cause release of dopamine in larg amount
@@lenientbigcat2174 might as well isolate yourself from society and become monke again ngl
I'm curious how this experiment would differ on me, as someone with ADHD. Adhd is basically a chronic lack of dopamine, which is why it is hard to pay attention to boring subjects because our brains are constantly chasing that extra dopamine.
I think I'd get restless, very quickly haha. But I would be more in tune with myself. If I can find interest in books or doing an outdoor activity that can give me dopamine, not only with i get that extra dopamine but I'll feel better about myself for doing something productive (productivity is hard for adhders haha)
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personally I find this experiment bullshit. I can live off the grid for weeks and still struggle with adhd, sure I won't be spending hours watching youtube but I'll find myself fixing a door at 2am or watching the bird on the roof while I'm supposed to be working. social media wasn't a thing 20 years ago and I had the same struggles as of today. there's no good or bad dopamine but the ways you obtain it. the only thing this experiment proves is that for sure a workout/meeting new people feels more self-regarding and is way healthier than smoking a pack of cigarettes and 4 coffees a day but your brain doesn't care at all.
I totally agree. As another person with ADHD, I'd worry because I'd naturally need to move a lot more - and I'm not sure how to fit that into my lifestyle. But I'm starting to think that I need to figure that out, for my own sake. Maybe we shouldn't be fighting against our natures. 🙂
I too have it. Something I’ve noticed is that these kinds of hyper stimulated lifestyles only worsen our problems and likely make our baseline way worse than it has to be.
I’ve had a lot of success doing my daily tasks and work from adding “boring” time where I sit for a while and do literally nothing. Gives me very immediate results. And I find myself relying on meds less.
This detox seems like an even more aggressive version of that.
Going to try it, I’ll let you know how it goes
@@noahgm9629 Aho brother. I feel the same. I'm actually in a constant higher 'drive', since I stopped gaming and watching social media etc. I'm very much more 'in control' and living my ideal life
Any one there who so addicted to dopamin detox videos that you can't even detox dopamine
“Hey there. I’m here to give you more dopamine! 😃”… 💀😆
I would be curious to see the improvement of results as you do the test more times. A common example to why certain tests are flawed (not saying that this one was) are the IQ tests. You can improve your score by as much as 25 points just by doing the test multiple times. Nonetheless, amazingly useful experiment, will definitely try it!
Reading fiction is pretty much the same as watching shows and I think it does send a lot of dopamine to your brain too
I appreciate this well articulated video because clarity is a good defense against the deceptions of resistance. I can see watching this some sneaky assumptions resistance planted in my mind are being removed.
I have done this for a few years...each time increasing the time. I just finished a 2 month "digital detox" about 1 month ago. I do mine 2x a year. Next will be this summer. For me, I have always noticed I am sooo much more productive once I get back to all things digital. Feel more clarity and focus...and finally I believe it helps to keep me young. I will be 48 soon but I am still playing 4-5games of full court basketball with the high school and college kids at the rec.
For some reason I have been watching because I am ADDHD and 50 and trying to better my self it's helping me a lot to watching your video
Very helpful! Love the irony of dopamine "detox" stripping social media / UA-cam of a guy who's driven to create for audiences on said platforms. Reminds me of all the brewmasters I've known who continued passionately brewing craft beers even after their own drinking problems forced them to sobriety ;)
On the 7th day, I did notice a shift in your energy - you felt more focused and clear-minded unlike your first day. Great job, Leon
This scheduled daily routine will kill me for sure.....I already feel the stress by looking at the timetable lol
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No doubt "dopamine detox" is the way forward, but I would do the brain test again after reverting back to the old lifestyle for a couple of weeks to confirm whether the change measured is indeed due to dopamine detox or purely because you knew what to expect the second time around. This is known as an A-B-A test.
I dunno if you’ve ever heard of andrew hubberman, well he’s a neuroscientist and i love the brain and have done so much research on the brain. A dopamine detox is one of those things where most people think its good because of the productivity you get out of it, however a dopamine detox is actually very very unhealthy to your health, mental health and mood which in term isn’t good for your body
this is creepy because i've been meaning to finish reading Dune in the evenings (that exact copy you showed, actually), but i keep getting annoyed with myself because i scroll on twitter instead. i'm taking this as a sign to be more disciplined lol
Same here. I've been wanting to end my nights reading and thanks to this video I finally started reading LOTR. Dune is next on the list. Keep it up, I'll do the same.