Re-Revisiting Hailie Deegan
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2025
- How do you think Hailie Deegan's NASCAR career will play out?
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The young racers in the lower levels are in a war of attrition. The manufacturers and high power teams throw a lot of newbies out there and eventually some of them shine well enough to move up. It's nothing personal, just racing.
That and the lack of career drivers in those series doesn't help
@@ashketchumsdad You are right on that. It is so expensive that few old school teams and drivers stay around that long.
@@charlesbarry7479 I said in another comment that Kyle Busch and Matt Crafton are the only ones standing in the way of the truck series. It's already a diaper league but it is hanging on by a thread thanks to a longtime series legend, and an all time great talent's love of the series itself. I don't care what anyone says, if I was a young racecar driver I'd rather race with them on the track than not.
yor describing business tactics...not racing.
A big part of it is her attitude about it. She always seems to want to keep working and that’s huge even after all the shit that has been thrown at her this season. Can’t give up on someone this young just yet.
Im hoping she improves. Definitely would like to see her do good
Shes not a good driver peruod, anothet danica Patrick, what driver keeps wrecking like that shes just not good
@@johnjohn.w.hickshicks2923 people always just immediately say “just another Danica” any time they see a female racecar driver.
Her attitude of how she always wants to improve is another reason I support her so much. She works hard at it, sometimes harder than her crew does. If you pay attention to her and her crew it becomes obvious she out-performs them and still asks for advice on how to improve and what to learn.
@@johnjohn.w.hickshicks2923 Lazy take.
I think a big thing for Deegan is that she seems to have lost confidence this year. I think all of the pressure is getting to her in a bad way. And I don't know if DGR is a good fit for her. The Atlanta incident was what raised a red flag for me. She told them she was smelling smoke and thought she was on fire about 2 or 3 laps before she came down pit road and both her spotter and crew chief basically told her "No you aren't, keep digging" and she ran the few more laps until she damn near choked herself out on the smoke. That level of non-trust from a team towards a driver is something I have never heard of before. Like if you don't trust the driver to literally know when they are on fire, what kind of input is she really getting on....anything, really? That doesn't even take into account how her pit crew seems to have a bad stop about every other time she comes in, which puts her in the back which is where she gets caught up in the stupid mid-pack bs. I do think she obviously has room for improvement but its hard to tell how much of it really is on her since the situation around her just seems bizarrely grim.
I think this is a really good point about Atlanta. If the team had listened to her, they might have put the fire out early and kept racing.
Yup, that’s unacceptable.
@@tayronachan Forget the racing aspect. They communicated to her that her safety is a joke to them.
This is a rare case where she needs to move up a series to get a good view of her talent. the ruck series has become, outside of maybe 5 drivers, a circus of drivers wrecking people for 21st place. SMH.
well said
She very well may be better off in an Xfinity car for the eeason you mentioned. I'd be open to seeing her in an Xfinity Mustang.
@@adamtereska8734 Her motorsports racing stats don't justify her moving up to the Xfinity series.
@@sergeantmasson3669 that’s… what they’re saying
Would love to see her in that 98 for SHR
the fact that 20 years ago we wouldn't even dream of letting someone as young as her drive in a higher series of nascar, to now we have people already calling someone pre 25 a bust is just crazy haha.
I mean just look at Suarez
@@dethkillerspiral he won one race….
@@dethkillerspiral Suarez is 30. Has had many years experience, and hasn't really been anywhere near that good. Best finish in the standings is 17th.
Why? Because of kids racing full time when they’re 12-13. If she’s not good enough by now she isn’t good enough. She’s a part of that series for her tits not her racing.
@@jacob1423 That's true for the cup series. Lower NASCAR series, far better than Deegan.
A lot of the incidentals that shes involved in is because most of the time she's caught racing mid-pack in a developmental series.
right where she belongs mid-pack in a developmental series.
Or someone just wrecks her, shes been ran in the wall a lot this year.
3:49 shows you a lot about Deegan’s character. Despite all the popularity and money surrounding her, the emotion and willingness to be successful, as well as the passion she has for the sport is enough for me to know that she deserves more chances than people are willing to give her.
nmk32, what say you now? She no longer has a NASCAR ride in any series. She's a dud in all motorsports racing. The stats/facts don't lie, but all her simps damn sure do.
Yeah 2020 & 2021 was a rough time to be a rookie in all of the series with no practice & qualifying and Nascar only giving 15 minutes of practice this year doesn't help either.
I also kinda feel like when Penske left the xfinity series & Thor Sport left ford in trucks, ford stop putting a lot of effort about developing drivers in Xfinity & Trucks. There's zero top prospect in Xfinity & in trucks Zane Smith's the only Ford driver really doing anything.
Front Row is basically carrying Ford's development at the second-tier level on their back right now. Hard to believe that it was originally a nepotistic ride for David Gilliland's son.
And we have also Todd Gilliland making the jump from Trucks to Cup without going to Xfinity. You're right, Ford's development program is kind of a mess.
And worse, the Ford teamns in Cup seems to be stacked up at the moment, except for SHR with Almirola retiring and Harvick becoming closer and closer to his fifties. And maybe Wood Brothers.
@@onelonejackal613 yeah Ford needs to get their shit together with their development program.
Cause Ford's basically leaving SHR to help other teams in Xfinity all by themselves and they only have Front Row being successful in trucks
I would like to see her in the 54 Toyota!
But now she should be doing better since she knows these tracks. She’s gotten worse
Completely agree that she wouldn't be involved in so much if she was running up front. You can't run 18th in the current truck series and then act shocked when you get involved in a crash.
Yeah and tbh the truck series might be the most competitive series right now. Great drivers, some bad/inexperienced ones in fast cars and you get a 1-20th place grudge match. There is definitely some better trucks out of the field but it’s very competitive this year.
Hailie Deegan has had bad luck, but at the same time, she does not have the speed. I’m not giving up on her, but if she doesn’t improve next year, a future video called “NASCAR Busts: Hailie Deegan” might be coming soon
This.
She isn't even 25 years old. LOL! She isn't in the top league yet. Let's chill out.
@@KazeShikamaru yeah she even said she's going keep taking her time. It's not like she's going to the Xfinity Series full time next year. Pfft
Well look at the improvement of Riley Herbst, we can let these kids take their time and improve. For some of these drivers it takes time to be great. Not everyone is a Chase Briscoe or Chase Elliot.
@@KazeShikamaru but there's alot of hype, Alot of it, so she can be a bust anytime
You knew this was coming. All I'm gonna say as a guy that followed her West career is this -- she has been REAL underwhelming on the national level. Same can be said about EVERY SINGLE West alumni that sank, swim or launched to the national level quickly (i.e. Tanner Gray, Kraus, Thompson, Perkins, etc) over the past decade.
Would she have benefitted from running another year in ARCA? Probably.
Tanner has been better this year.
Kraus was competing for a win at Gateway though. He's in a Toyota as well.
You are right, I can’t remember the last driver to come from the west series to have success in the higher series,
East is a beast
Yeah. She ran in a series that didn't have a lot of guys that normally ran anyway. People like to brag about her finishing 3rd or 4th and point while ignoring that only four people ran the full schedule
She's out there racing as a new racer and not bitching at everybody that she rear ends, I ain't got no problem with her. Unlike some other person who shall not be named
I just wanted to mention her performance in the IMSA race at Daytona driving a Mustang earlier this year. She was running top 5 and after a terrible pit stop returned 24th, She raced her way back to the top 5 against a lot of seasoned veterans. Unfortunately she didn't finish the race, But my point being maybe the trucks don't suit her ? I would be interested to see how she would do in the Xfinity series....
And she finished 3rd in an SRX race against some top drivers
Don't forget, she was blantantly wrecked that race too...
totally agree she would be much better in Xfinity
I watched that race and was thinking the same thing that she appears to be a much better road racer then ovals or maybe it’s just the competition isn’t as suicidal.
@@SilverSylphide Literally this. Everyone was respectful at the IMSA race. In trucks, she constantly gets taken out by guys trying insane moves that were literally never going to work, and it ruins both drivers races. And yet they do it every fucking week. The actually good drivers understand that you can just sit behind someone if you can't get past, you don't need to go for one extra position by trying to dive down the inside of someone who's faster then you. You can just accept 10th place. There is basically no talent in truck series at the moment, they're just idiots.
Hailie biggest problem is that she's constantly mid-pack. That's the most wreck-prone area to be, because there's less talented drivers causing wrecks along with wrecks developing out in front to miss. I've watched tons of NASCAR for 30 years. And I've always noticed if you're super slow, you're rarely in wrecks, and if you're super fast, you're usually out ahead of them. But unless Hailee can improve to where she's battling the 1st through 10th driver each week instead of the 11th through 25th driver, then she'll continue to wreck a lot. She's actually not that reckless. But she gets caught up in a lot of other wrecks because she can't get the speed to clear the notoriously wreck-filled portion of the pack each week.
She usually is in the top 10, that's where most of her trouble happens. Some slow bastard gets near her in the top 10 cause he's shredding his tyres and had a few good laps, and thinks "well, now's my only chance to get past!" and proceeds to ruin both their races, and then they both finish near 20th place. Every single goddamn race, because no one in truck series can fucking drive. There's like 3 talented drivers in the entire series, and every single other driver should be fired immediately. They drive like apes. They'll ruin your race and their own because they don't like sitting behind someone who's as fast as them for a few laps. No, instead they'll do some insane banzai move that's never going to work and then you both lose all the places you've spent all race building up.
yeah but let's be honest 2020/2021 truck series has some crazy guys. A bunch of races become legit wreckfests
In her first year and a half, this is partly what I expected.
Some solid finishes in the Top 15 or Top 20. However, some finishes could've been better. I'm not say it's her fault, it's because some of the veteran drivers aren't giving her the room to grow and other rookies who have little to no experience.
Hailie Deegan has potential, but when she gets into a wreck and about 60 or 70% of the time, it's someone else's fault. Her team is DGR and the equipment is decent. It needs to have the right amount of speed and consistency, as well as the right equipment and the right people on her team.
Read the facts from my comment on Hailie. Also, her progress is receding when it was predicted to go forward and exceed last season's results. Remember, bad luck doesn't last long, bad driving does. She obviously needs to make a change(s) for the better.
@@PROFESSOR-I.C. she's ran up front a few times this season and should have a few top tens, she's been taken out by her own pit crew to many times. Look at what she did in IMSA with a better program around her, she drove threw the pack a couple times against some of the best to ever do it. DGR is a mid pack team, she usually runs mid pack. Every time it seems the team is set to get a top ten the pit crew fucks up a tire or something dumb happens out of her control. The truck series is shit and has been for decades alot of drivers struggled their way threw it and went on to shine in the next level, I think Deegan is going be amongst that group. She's got the skill she's just plagued with bad luck. Judging drivers by their finishes leaves alot of info absent, she can run up front all race get taken out, finish 20+ and all you here is she shouldn't be here, she can't drive etc when she spent most the race up front. She calmed down alot since Arca because she didn't want the image of an aggressive driver but I honestly think it'd be better for her to go back to that
@@PROFESSOR-I.C. How is bad driving when she's often been in the running for a top 10 only for some dickhead to wreck her for no reason? Literally, watch the races, she'll get whacked by someone and then they'll both finish around 20th from running top 10. The people taking her out aren't Dale Earnhardt, moving up the pack by any means necessary, go fast or let em past racing. No, it's guys that are usually slower then her, who get a good run for 3 laps and think "great, now I'll just wreck them to get past!" and it means they lose pace, she loses pace and then they end up losing 10 positions each. The truck series is full of idiots who don't understand Oval racing. If they just sat in behind her and worked with her, like you're meant to, they'd probably both finish well inside the top 10. Truck series is the worst and the only thing she could do about it, is everytime someone touches her, just turn right and put them into the wall. Just start ending every motherfucker who breathes on hers race, because that's the level of skill in Truck series. It's just a bunch of wannabe demolition derby drivers.
@@YOSHI450R You're definitely delusional. Tanner Gray is her teammate and drives virtually the same truck and uses the same equipment she does. Actually, she has better. Hailie has among the most funding from sponsorships and even more from social media. Virtually all of the full-time NASCAR truck series drivers have proven to be better than her.
She does have some honest talent it seems, she does have age on her side at the moment. All she needs is time to get to gell with crews she'll be working with and convey what she wants from the setup of the race car
Like dw always says... experience I just because she has a lot of experience in the amateur ranks doesn't mean shit life experience racing experience you don't know your ass from your elbow when your 19 and if you think otherwise you're just as stupid as the rest...😂🤦♂️
She needs better help on the pitbox and the spotter's stand, she did great at Kansas in 2020 with SHR guys, I think it was Blickensderfer quarter-backing her pit crew and Tim Sauter up on the stand getting her through traffic all day, she was running 2nd until her final pit stop under green, she could've actually been in contention if she hadn't had to come in under green.
I have mixed feelings about this video. I appreciate that it doesn't outright show hatred about her like I thought it would based on your "Is it time to call her a bust or do we still need time?" twitter posts, but I still want to point out some other things. Her rookie season was better than I expected because of one thing you failed to point out in this video. She was top 5 in all laps complete the entire season last year, without the practice or qualifying, and also didn't dnf until the very end of the season in playoffs, only getting three the entire year. Not bad for a rookie. I deel like bringing up her personal issues with a stalker was extra shade that didn't need to be thrown, because that video was how long ago? And you mention yourself that all her wrecks were wrong place wrong time, but didn't mention some of the things that put her there. Her crew has been horrible all season and if you listened to her scanner this season, you'd realize that, wither it be mechanical issues costing her qualifying like Gateway or Charlotte, or her crew not believing her when she said the truck was on fire in the first place and also taking forever to get her out at Atlanta, or doing well driving at Sonoma until her pit crew got a penalty she couldn't get back from because track position was so important such was the case in Sonoma... Hailie has been doing fine. Her crew sucks ass.
her pit crew screws her up a lot as well. Like every time she runs well something out of her control (Most of the time) happens
I firmly agree that another year in ARCA would have been a great idea.
Hallie has no reason to hang her head, everyone in the truck series are auditioning for a spot in a cup car so as most are very young drivers who are pushing the limit of their ability’s. I have watched her for awhile and she is the most aggressive female that I have seen, but having said that the only thing she needs besides better equipment ( not that what she has is all that bad) is to coin a phrase EYE OF THE TIGER.
Hallie you can do this just hang in there👍
She is impacted by the downfall of ARCA. We still have the same expectations for drivers as we 15 years ago, when 40 cars were on the track. The series isn't the same as it used to be with quality and talents. The trucks have been rapidly headed down that path as well. Kyle Busch and Matt Crafton are the only ones holding that series together in my opinion
Rip original k&n(Winston west and Busch north), arca, truck seties
@@kb3tus I'm sure most would disagree but I blame it on the "names are made here" crap
imagine if Hailie Deegan ran well this weekend at Knoxville…
insert re-re-revisiting video on her lol
She has the dirt racing ability. Honestly I expect her 3rd year in trucks to be fairly decent. This season has had glimpses
And the results don’t match the glimpses.
She could be competitive at Knoxville as long as she doesn’t wreck her primary because she has a great dirt setup.
IF....
@@donniedial3014 last weekend showed how overhyped she is
Been caught up in a wreck every race of the season. That’s a proplem regardless if it wasn’t your fault
Danica Patrick Syndrome
I have all the talent a racer would need to get caught up in a wreck every race. Hell, give me a seat, I could do that!
It's a problem with the skill of the other drivers in Trucks. She's not causing any of the wrecks. She is surrounded by talentless hacks, who are the real ones that should be sent back to ARCA.
I feel like Deegan is an ok driver. She does have some talent, but she can’t seem to harness it on a weekly basis. It doesn’t help that she has also had some of the worst luck ever. I do wish the best for her, but I do think performance does need to improve or else she will become the newest NASCAR bust.
I agree 100%. I am 75 and my favorite thought is that she is the Jimmy Spencer of my younger days ie just watch her, if a wreck happens anywhere on track she is going to get caught up in it and usually had nothing to do with what caused it.
@@nwflagudatit9944 - Oh fuck no, she ain't no Jimmy Spencer, she's more like Jeff Gordon (and I say that as a career-long Gordon fan), she doesn't have his level of talent quite yet, but she's got his mannerisms and his respect on the track towards fellow drivers, she doesn't go out there looking for trouble, and when it finds her, she does her best to deal with it and move on. Even Gordon got fed up once in a while.
@@Crater7928 I never questioned her ability to drive. Please reread my comment.
@@nwflagudatit9944 - Oh no, you absolutely did when you compared her to Jimmy Spencer, I hate Jimmy Spencer, he's lazy, fat, disgusting, unfunny, and a total asshat, whereas Hailie Deegan has respect for others and doesn't treat people like shit, unlike Jimmy Spencer, she was raised to be better than what Jimmy Spencer is. Jimmy Spencer sucks on and off the track, he can't drive to save his career, and he's disrespectful to everyone around him, how dare you compare Deegan to Spencer. X_X
she couldnt catch a break if she financed it most of her crashes she just gets screwed into
great featurette, haven't heard a single biased word in this, She is a race car driver who is believed in. 🏁
I cant wait until we re-re-revisit Hailie Deegan!
I think her bad runs so far have been the result of getting caught up in wrecks not of her own fault and issues with her team to include equipment issues and pit road issues. Furthermore, her crew chief while good has made some bad calls in strategy and setup. Additionally, Hailie has only been running asphalt for only the last 4 to 5 years. So a combo of many different factors on top of the reckless nature of the truck series has led to her lackluster performance thus far in her career. I really feel that a move up to the Xfinity series would help her out in her development, along with a move to a new team such as JRM.
If you get caught up in wrecks every single week, eventually you have to look at the most common denominator.
@@bohunt8113 Literally none of them have been her fault. The most common denominator is that no one else in the Truck series can actually drive. Everyone around her are idiots who cause wrecks every week. In any other racing series on the planet, they'd all have been banned from racing. It's only Nascar that let's drivers that shit continue to race.
you hit the nail on the head. if she would get out of those high teens and run maybe 10-11-12 she would not get in so many wreks. The other thing i see is that her team does not help her at all with any strategy calls. Ive never seen her team try something different to get her up front. they always do the same as all the others as far as strategy, never seen her do a 2 tire stop. im not sure is that even allowed in trucks? But we need to remember this is only her 2 year ever in her life racing on asphalt in a top tier series
Yes. It would be better to get someone who’s struggling to be up front with old tires on a restart and faster cars with new tires behind her. She’ll learn that way.
I'm straight up losing my patience with her.
You can't be 24th in the standings behind drivers in Much worse equipment while your Teammates are running In the top 5 top 10 and one of them is trying to make the playoffs
😐
You don't have to worry as you are a Male in a male driven sport. If you take the time to watch some races you will see that some guy (with a male Ego) does not like the fact that she is ahead of them and will wreck her on purpose. This happens in Almost Every Race I Have Watched with the exception of 2 or 3. If her truck is good enough to race on she usually gets wrecked again on purpose. Back in Bills day they has Shawna Robinson but no one tried to wreck her on purpose. Just Sayin if she was raced clean I bet she would easily be top 10 or maybe top 8.
@@pettypit Mike Wallace literally wrecked Shawna on purpose at Atlanta because Shawna won the pole over him...
@@kingofrunescapepking I'm surprised people remember who Shawna Robinson is.... tbh if NASCAR Thunder 2003 wasn't a thing i would have never known about her
@@pettypit This is such an obnoxious and toxic way to look at everything. She's a race car driver. That's how everyone sees her and trying to imply that people are intentionally wrecking her because she happens to be a girl is disgusting and tells me you don't actually watch any races. Give me one example of someone intentionally wrecking her. One. And preferably not one that's a payback from something in the race or a racing for position wreck
Her potential is through the roof, and I believe it's only a matter of time before she's able to truly show it
Lol well see
If Deegan stayed with Toyota I’m
confident she’d be more successful at this point. However, she’s only 20 yes TWENTY years old and has a ton of time still. Tons of time she’s young. If she’s still exactly this good at 25, then we can talk about if she’s a bust. She can’t even legally order a drink at a bar yet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I do think Ford will end up working out for her and she’ll be a decent cup driver some day. We can’t tell the future and it’s just so so so early to say what she will be. I didn’t even know what I was gunna do at 20 and now at 27 I’ve never been in a better situation but it’s because I took that mission upon myself to improve. I’m no famous racer like she is, I’m just a random dude, but like any 20 year old struggling race car driver prospect, she has massive amounts of time and space to improve and if she WANTS to she WILL. We shall see, but it’s way to early to make final judgement on her nascar career.
She complains the competition is too tough on her. Well 75% of the truck field are smaller teams....probably barely making a profit. I can see why they have no sympathy for her on track, they are fighting for EVERY position.
Yeah she needs to start finishing in the top 15 or 10 i wanna rout for her but dang its hard to when shes always wrecking or getting involved in other wrecks. I believe she can do it shes got talent
She was predicted to finish top 10 in the NASCAR Truck Series standings for 2022. Earlier the season, after a few bad finishes she vowed to perform much better. That hasn't happened. She'll still have full-time ride next season. She's fortunate.
If you're not wrecking your not racing!!
I think she has talent, but she needs to get in dirt cars or do something besides Trucks maybe. Jump into a late model at Nashville or Florida.
@@donahartsr.319 By your analogy, Hailie is a great racer. If she becomes any greater she'll be out of racing.
@@PROFESSOR-I.C. DOUBTFUL.
Well done BFM ! An interesting look at this young lady.
I think she is spending more time trying to build her UA-cam empire instead of concentrating on racing.
For me she is a good driver the issue is that the competition is so tough in the truck series that good results isn't enough to succeed and trendsend,but I'm sure she will have a seat in the xfinity series because ford desperately need prospects
Zane is next up for Ford probably after riley herbst leaves
@@1888Wyatt Zane is most likely gonna move to cup when Michael McDowell retires, which will probably been soon
@@fatalauxtie zane isnt jumping to cup and he too good for shit equpiment
@@NickyD so its Tyler Reddick but look at him
She was “meh” in ARCA and “meh” in trucks. Still better than Natalie Wrecker but she should stay in trucks until she can get a top 10 points finish. Which might be five years from now honestly.
Her career has been a YIKES…. But mainly she has bad luck and I can see how lack of practice affected her. I feel like her rushing from ARCA to Trucks was gonna affect her too. Also the media and everybody overhyped here instead of let her do her job. I personally hope something good happens to her later down the road. If not, (and hopefully not), she’ll end up on NASCAR Busts. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
Agreed... and this is why, for example, why Joe Gibbs doesn't want to rush Ty Gibbs to cup, because we've seen way too many potential stars being thrown into the fire too soon, and their career ends up being a major disappointment.... I'm hoping that this does not happen to her
@@davidpeters2625 me too, David. Me too
sometimes you can do everything right and still lose
People just need to leave her alone. Nowadays, if you don't have several wins in your rookie year, you are called a bust.
That's just not fair, and i don't think a lot of these drivers respect her at all. They race her a lot more aggressively than they do others when they are around her.
You can see the frustration at 3:50.
She's clearly under intense pressure to perform because she knows how quickly people will give up on drivers these days.
I'm not sure trucks is the best thing for her because the drivers there are also desperate and race a bit over their heads. I know it sounds crazy, but i think she would do better in Xfinity because drivers have better control and she might not get abused as much.
Just my 2 cents.
I'm not giving up on her yet but it's definitely not looking good so far. Even when she gets caught up in wrecks its not like she's up in the top 10 when it happens. She's running around 15th-25th most of the time and that's not where you wanna be because a lot of drivers midfield on back race like clowns. DGR is a competitive organization. Ryan preece has proven that multiple times and her other teammate tanner gray finds himself running inside the top 10 sometimes. I don't think it's asking too much for her to run 10th-12th on a weekly basis at least. I don't think she needs to be eyeing Xfinity any time soon in my opinion. If she can start running much better for the rest of this season and improve even more in her 3rd season in trucks (if she decides to do another season) then yea she could probably make some Xfinity starts next season. I'm wishing her the best.
DGR is like the Chip Ginnassi of the Cup series . I feel like she should not be outside of the top 20 much with her car. I do not expect her to make the playoffs but she should be running around 15 every week and occasionally run in the top ten. Fans need to realize DGR does not have the speed to contend for race wins so, give Hailee some time to develop and help turn DGR into a better program.
@@austinraley6004 Also her crew chief and the put crew is a joke. and they dont take her seriously as evidenced when she had that fire.
I've been a Hailie Deegan fan for over 3 years. I'm objective and the reality is, the final results don't lie. Instead of performing better, she's performed worse. She's last among Ford trucks and last among full-time NASCAR Truck series drivers. Every driver in both mentioned has performed better than her. She only has 1 top 10 finish in 35 truck races.
I know it’s not NASCAR, but she performed really well in the SRX.
I was just going to post this. You almost have to mention that she has had some success in the SRX. I also think she seems a bit more relaxed in those cars.
there was 6 cars in the feild most oldtimers way diffarent
@@NickyD 12 cars Everybody had way more experience and she did real good That's the positives - The negatives Only 2 races and really only did good in 1 of them. Big fan of H Deegan
@@sparkyguitar0058 3 SRX races, not 2. Her 2nd place finish was only because she and Stewart were the only two dirt experience drivers left in the race. No damn way was she getting by Stewart. SRX series, she intentionally took out Paul Tracy. She did apologize later but when Paul left the room, she and her cowardly lackey boyfriend bad mouthed Paul behind his back.
@@sergeantmasson3669 Did you actually watch that series. Tracy took out people all series long. He took driving lessons from D Patrick. He was horrible! Your back. So you must be a fan.
The thing I like about Hailie is she’s not just some social media star with financial support, she clearly cares and wants to be good, I know Monster is bankrolling her but that doesn’t make her uncommitted. I think her best move is to drop down to ARCA and then try a second run in Trucks. She’s not untalented, her finishes in her few season of West and ARCA prove that, I think she just needs development before making the jump she’s made
She’s 20 years old, she still has plenty of time to progress if she does it the right way
her all over ads on my facebook say otherwise....
Shes not bad she just has alot of bad luck and gets caught up in other peoples bs/wrecks they caused
If she can get some better luck and equipment shes good
You can get a better inside of what shes going through in her yt channel
She wouldn’t be caught up in those wrecks if she wasn’t in the back of the field
@@chibby__ 🤓
@@chibby__ Wouldn't be in the back of the field if she could have some luck, sees like she runs up front, top 15, then will somehow wind up in 25th for three laps for someone to wreck someone in front of her or someone decides to make it five wide into a corner. She also just gets run in the wall all the time.
Not to mention her crew is atrocious. To having stuff not ready and not working such as pre qualifying equipment to get the truck into the window needed, to saying nah Halie you good on the tire issue. Sonoma should have gone well as shes decent on road courses but of course the crew got a penalty on pit road.
Honestly don't know why Nascar went away from longer practices for the lower divisions, seems like that's where you would want more practice
I feel like she is worried about all these other things besides racing . Clothing line , UA-cam content , etc. put 100% in racing if you want to succeed
I was about to say the same thing. She spends too much time on her YT channel. It's fun and stuff but, she is stretching herself a little thin and also taking chances of getting injured on the dirt bikes. Do all this stuff after you have more success on the track. I do wish her well and bummed that I just missed a chance to see her live at Sonoma.
I would say that too, but she doesn’t run any of that stuff. She signs off on it, but does no other work for it. She has people that do the rest. Also being in a UA-cam video isn’t any extra work if your going to be doing that stuff anyway.
She has a team that runs her UA-cam/Social Media/ Clothing Line, none of that is her. She pays other people to handle all of that. She spends an hour a week at most on it.
I am a fan. I failed as a race car driver because I cared more about my skill than roughing people up to get ahead. Her skill and makeup do not match her well with the truck series. She doesn't qualify well enough and she is not aggressive enough. But the powers that be (Ford, NASCAR, other owners) will not give up on her because she is immensely popular and will continue to move up no matter her results in trucks. She's actually better suited for Xfinity. Eventually she will gain enough experience to get the results we all expect, including her.
I’m gonna say something that’s gonna be controversial. Hailie is not a bust. Some of those accidents weren’t her fault. In my opinion, she needs more time to develop, or better yet, a new team. David Gilliland Racing is not the best Truck team, let’s just be honest here. We saw it in K&N, she has the talent to win and run up front. If she was in a second Front Row truck as a teammate to Zane, I could see her being in the Top 10 consistently. The sad part is this. She needs more time to develop, I honestly think this year should’ve been her rookie year in Trucks, but you know that she’s gonna be in Xfinity next year driving the 98 when Riley Herbst inevitably gets the 10.
Ryan Preece same team and equipment only ran 5 races so far ahead of her in points. Tanner Gray same team and equipment 11th in points. Blaming the team and equipment don’t mean shit when others can get the job done. If she was the top of the team I’d agree but she not.
She’s good. The problem the way I see it is she runs to conservatively sometimes and it puts her in bad situations. I personally wanna see her xfinity mile and a half debut, cause her and preece run the same equipment/will probably run the same equipment.
This is the bizarre thing because she was so aggressive in K&N. I personally think pretty bad luck and this stalker thing mentally messing with her is most of the issue. But there has been some real bad runs in there. People act like DGR is great equipment. It's barely top 15 equipment most weeks. Tanner Gray is having a hell of a season compared to his last two and he's still just cracking the top 10 on occasion. All of that is to say I think writing her off is pretty pointless right now.
I think she's just still trying to learn. It's just taking longer than people thought.
@@icseN I think people expect DGR to be good thanks to Todd Gilliland being decent enough with the 38 and then Zane Smith having a hell of a season with the same team.
Really, the combined Thorsport+KBM onslaught as a whole doesn't leave a lot of room for other teams to feature in the top 10.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld yeah. Plus wondering if the stalker will show up if you decide to walk across the street.. I lost a good friend due to his ex gf stalking him. He constantly looked over his shoulder. If he had to get gas or even take the trash out. It mentally drained him. Because you don’t know if that person is around but can’t see where they are. Or if you go somewhere, are they going to follow you.
It was a time I expected him to call and say she’s arrested. I never expected to get a call that she took his life. Hurts me typing it.
@@Denverbroncos87 yes especially for her like what if that stalker wants also kidnap her and start forcing his will on her. You never know what these creeps will do.
Like Larry McReynolds said, you make your own luck. Whether that be the team or the driver.
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She will be fine, watching her she knows how to race, but with the things she has went through this year from equipment breakdowns recently to the stalker deal it all takes time. Give her a couple of years then come back to this.
bro her stalker? lmaooooooo stop it.
totally disagree ,she does not have enough talent to race at this level, needs to go back to late models and learn how to race
@@optimalpowersimracing6625 she had a police constantly around her because of whoever the guy is . Stalking is not a joke. I lost a good friend years ago because his ex stalked him, decided to kill him because he wouldn’t give her another chance due to her cheating. The “ it was a mistake “ excuse. It’s not a joke..
And she need stop whining I understand frustrate that she had now but Race in cup is much worst than Xfinity and trucks
She was big in those Stadium trucks or whatever they are called but that doesn't necessarily mean she will be good in this series. That's what you guys are ignoring. She's race against people that have been driving stock cars for a long time.
I think other young drivers hate how much Hailie gets propped up buy media and marketing. It's not easy to get respect when she's the biggest name in trucks despite virtually no success.
Pussy has power my guy
Kinda how Danica Patrick was popular In the Nascar only because she was a woman with other than the pole at Daytona, she had zero results through her whole Nascar career.
They could start, idk, doing some of that kind of work themselves. A lot of us would watch them. But they won't put in the work, so they don't get the notice.
@@TomLehockySVK BULLCRAP. Try again. Danica Patrick was better in NASCAR than the previous 118 female drivers since 1949. None better since her either. ZERO results? One pole, 17 top 10's and she led 133 laps. Danica Patrick also became the most successful female race car driver in auto racing history. Everybody is entitled to be stupid sometimes but you're abusing the privilege.
@@TomLehockySVK Danica finish top ten in the Xfinity series standings in 2012
I like her as a driver , maybe she should hang out at the shop working on the truck, it may help out but who am I to talk, I dont have a ride and don't race, just a fan. Good luck Deegan !!
I am sorry but I do not think she is the real deal.
When Tanner Gray is doing better in the same equipment, there’s an issue. Not that Gray isn’t talented, he’s not as lauded as Deegan is.
And people keep saying it’ll get better when she gets to Xfinity? Talk about how she’s doing now, then we can talk about if she’s one of the elite.
Gray had great runs in K&N but just hasn't fully translated it in Trucks until this year. He's been doing better but compared to Taylor, while controversial he's quick in spite of piss poor field quantity and quality, it can get overshadowed.
Just like Mick in F1, I wish Hailie will be better and moving forward to cup
Bruh what!? That is not the same thing… Mick is a F2 champion and now struggling with one of the worst cars on the grid at the top level or series. Hailie is in one of the top equipment ride and can’t even get top 15th finishes in a lower series.
I feel like i am the Hailie Deegan of iracing sometimes. Lately I had pit a lot of practice into endurance racing and I would be in the LMP2 doing the 1 hour races, and out of 9 races it was 1st, last out of 34, last, last, last, last, last, last out of 34 still, 1st!!! Last again, last, and then 1st!. And everytime I ended up last was on the 1st lap too, sometimes starting pole, and never my fault. I gave it a good break after because 6 lap 1 enders in a row all from behind or tangled up in idiots in front broke me lol
The Deegs is learning and fun to watch. TJ Majors is a believer and so is Helio. Makes me feel good to believe in and to watch HD.
Yeah I can't forget how well she did in SRX. That put alot of faith for her in me
she genuinely might be the unluckiest driver in any national series. I feel like every race I watch, she gets caught up in someone else's mess, or someone just runs through her.
Every wreck I've seen her in, 80% honestly she was a victim of circumstances. It seems as most of the crashes she's in she got pushed into them.
Most crashes are mid pack. She runs mid pack 100% of the time. It’s not luck, it’s just logic.
I'm always looking at the leader board with 10 to go and see Deegan battling for 13-17th. I always say just finish the race, next thing I notice she wrecks at other drivers fault for being too aggressive. 😒
Yo when she starts complaining she sounds and acts just like Danica. 😬
I hope she does well but it seems if she has disappointed but ngl the fans put a lot of pressure and expectations on and I feel like she is just doing what she can do in that truck but it seems if she is not showing her full potential and ngl DGR shoulda let her develop in ARCA for another year as every race is a struggle for her hopefully this is a sign for more female drivers to wait and develop
Welcome to nascar where just about every driver is really good.
@@bobbyhall7472 I’ve bern watching NASCAR since 2011 and i know all of my history but for Hailie this is a welcome to NASCAR experience
It’s going to be hard to complete with people who eat and sleep racing when you’re balancing being a racecar driver with being a media personality and whatever else.
the excuses y’all give her is unreal if that was a young man y’all wouldn’t be giving him all these passes keep the same energy
facts honestly she gives me Danica vibes but yeah she could get better first she needs qualify well and have a clean race it's hard for any driver to be good if there in a crash nearly every race but lets be real if this was young man performing like this people would call him bust DGR is a top 10- top 15 truck that's why i feel there too many excuses cause look at how her teammates have performed compare to her when you got tanner gray out run u you're not doing well at all
@@justin_is_buckets y'all say every female driver that isn't immediately the best when they start the new Danica Patrick oh dear God shut up
@@easiazyy wym immediately this her second full time season if she has regressed in her second year
@@easiazyy ofc people gonna criticize it’s her second year full time if you perform worse your second season you gonna get criticized
@@justin_is_buckets 2 years isn't that long especially for a truck driver to develop
I do not have a horse in the race but if I did I definitely would not give up on her I feel the one who goes the extra mile with her will not regretted it
I think this is a combination of driver, team and series. Hailee is young so struggles and inconsistency can be expected. Team: DGR is a slightly above average truck team that is below FRM, KBM, ThorSport, Halmar Friesen plus trucks ran by Enfinger and Hocevar. Series: the truck series is an absolute bar fight. Most of the incidents have been bad luck this year. With all of this being said, I believe one more year is needed to have a good representation of her potential
In racing the first ones who you have to beat is your teammates she fails at that. Ryan Preece has only ran 5 races with the same team so far and he’s higher in points.
@@zacharyradford5552 true but Ryan Preece is a much more experienced driver than her which is why I use 3 seasons as a benchmark for evaluating a driver as that’s enough time to become an experienced driver imo
Trucks is a bit of a crapshoot nowadays. Also you’ll get a guaranteed caution any time Kris Wright is racing. RIP Niece Motorsports. Hocevar carries that team while the other knuckleheads are racing/ wrecking outside the top 25.
I wish Haley the best ! She is just 21 years old ! I always thought it was stupid to suspect the young drivers to be Rock stars out of the gate ! I don't care if she does have a famous father ! She still needs time to learn ! Rock on Harley !
Ty Gibbs and Sam mayer are younger and better than her. Kyle Larson was a cup rookie at 21 and rocked the world
She needs way more time to develop, but yea she needs to improve a lot
@@kruleskoll Rather than trying to improve, she does tomboy childish dumbass high-risk antics with all her boy buddies instead.
James Hunt, she won't be 21 until July 18th 2022. She's no newbie to NASCAR either. She began NASCAR racing in 2018.
@@trent7736 Yes, especially Sam Mayer at 18 years old and racing well in NASCAR's Xfinity division without the advantages that Hailie has had.
One top ten in a year and a half ain't cutting it. Tanner Gray is kicking her ass.
Dibslin 2.0, that one top 10 was because 10 trucks were DNF and most of the others still running seriously wounded. Yes, Tanner Gray is proving how bad she is.
Inspite of the tire failure at Sonoma , that was a very positive race for her and the team, I hope they will build on it. She had moved forward several times before she ended up in the back that last time.
Robert Hungerford, at Sonoma she backed off the throttle, before turn 7, and got tapped from behind. That tire didn't go down until she scraped the wall.
As Mike Eddie said "race with the squires you get nuts" The Ford guys have to find speed.
Here for the comments making excuses for her
She desperately needs to be in the xfinity series. Can’t learn shit in trucks anymore
I may be the last voice of optimism. First things first, that a**hole stalker belongs in prison, but, even though she's had a very rough start, I do hope that since there is time left in the season, she can still turn it around.....
I wonder if there needs to be a shake up crew chief wise, it’s sad but the truck is slow.
@@shannonholliday412 that explains a lot.... if DGR wanted to compete, with the top dogs (KBM, ThorSport, Friesen, GMS, etc) they probably should've formed a tech alliance with Team Penske or SHR
funny how all the stalker bs just seemed to disappear into thin air
@@murraymiller1604 yeah.... well (obviously speculating) maybe the police caught that sob and put him where the rest of human scumbags go.... but yes, it does seem like that just disappeared into thin air
Put out Martin truex, Harvick, Hamlin, Kyle Busch pls. Is a apportunity for the rookies!
I like her. I hope she does well. She definitely has the potential.
Honestly I had high hopes for Hailie
But I've seen this with popular young drivers befor she was some money in her pocket and surouded by peaple telling her she's great now I think she's more interested in being Hailie incorporated if she spent as much time in the simulator or on a track as she does selling herself she'd be bad ass
To be truly successful in racing requires 100% cometment especially in the early years love her to death but I just don't see it happening for her in NASCAR
Hailie needs to return to a lower division - We don't need another JJ Yeley situation.
Yeley has improved
@@AnthonyLeach Indeed Yeley is now pretty respectable overperforming in shitty equipment which was the opposite of his initial career
@@AnthonyLeach What I meant is that Hailie could end up rushed too far into the deep end
SHE WON! A heat race.
Hailie will get it together, I think she'll pull out of this slump and I'm willing to bet on better performances as the season winds down..
It seems to happen to a lot of young drivers, Took chase two years before he won in cup, took two years for Byron in cup, hailies 3rd year she’ll win
And everybody is starting to call Hailie Deegan a bust already 🙄 😒 😑. Give her time people, she's still learning
Hailie Deegan is out of excuses, she needs to start performing if she wants to stay relevant
I do understand of her being unlucky sometimes and gets taken out due to others mistakes or other bs on the track but at the same time she needs to adapt and improve in order to get anywhere higher some say it will get better when she get to Xfinity but performing better here rn is what needs to come first before thinking about the higher levels
Is she a bust? No.
Over-hyped? Yes.
Listen I like Hailie and she is a good driver Her problem is that I feel she spends more time on social media and caring about her subscriber and instagram number of followers instead giving all of focus her on racing and trying to improve instead it seems like she doesn’t care enough to get better and she losing interest
Hallie is still really young so I'm willing to give her several more years but we can't sugar coat it she has not run well in the truck series. Even the races she has been caught up in wrecks she has not run well. She rarely if ever runs inside the top 10, it's worrisome. Wonder if she should have stayed with Toyota. Ford development doesn't have the track record...
I'm just here for the comments 🍿
Gon be some fighting lol
My dude came prepared with the popcorn too
Yeah, the Zerg rush of crypto-incels is pretty impressive 🤣.
Really wish people would stop simping for these drivers
If only she had stayed with Toyota
She would be another wasted Toyota driver. Just like Harrison Burton and Noah Gragson.
She’d still be rushed
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Maybe so But her performance would probably be more respectful in a way
Listen to Door Bumper Clear Totota was not livong up to their end of the deal is why she went to Ford.
@@marcbarnum9038 Exactly Had Toyota lived up to their end of their deal Maybe Deegan would have stayed
Hailie best thing going for her is her age. She's not like Jamie Chadwick being "too old" for F1 or like Carmen Jorda being just a pretty face. Hailie can go toe to toe when everything is lining up perfectly. Just extremely unlucky.
@@krvnjrcbs I mean. Pierre Gasly did have a horrendous time at Red Bull but with maturity, he got a second life at torro Rosso (Alpha Tauri nowadays)
He had it all at red bull and even for him it didn't go well. Hailie has time. Perhaps came in too early and if she wants, she can still change to open wheel if she wants.
I don’t know, I feel like she’s a good driver (she doesn’t get into a lot of self inflicted stuff) but not a good racer so far. I think her being successful would be huge for NASCAR. She has a lot of bad luck, she gets pushed around on track by everyone on a weekly basis, but her and the team could solve most of that by qualifying better and staying out of the mid pack fustercluck that happens every race
Nicely done video! Probably the most balanced neutral view on Hailie.
I’ve been rooting for Hailie since the beginning, and I think a big part of her development is getting used to pushing the car at every track; that being said she has been SO unlucky. I 100% agree that if she could qualify better she would be running near the front. Always seems to be the truck caught up in the wreck not caused by her.
Bad luck doesn't last long, bad driving does. She's been sent a horseshoe, a rabbit's foot, and a 4-leaf clover several races ago.
In today's day and ago the drivers bring the sponsorship. No sponsorship no ride ,just ask Jeb Burton.
That being said, she is stuck in the back of the pack with drivers who have sponsorship and they rent the truck.
The team she drives for is funded to be a top 12 team.
She needs to put in the work and get her crew on the same page.
Last week she finished a stage in the top 10 goes into the pits and gets accessed a penalty. Never recovered.
Put the phone down, get on topof the steering wheel and drive.
I personally think that Deegan's on the clock in terms of improvement. She has experience, she *can* run up front if she has the chance, but it seems like she gets in situations where something happens to he through no fault of her own. I think if she can improve, she has to do it sooner rather than later. The clock is ticking, and she hasn't gotten through the pack yet in terms of performance.
Moving to Ford was probably not the brightest move since she was hot with Toyota in the K&N series. She could've gotten a chance with with KBMS if she stayed with Toyota
@@alexcasares7401 I'll agree with the Toyota comment but I doubt it would've been with KBM, seems you want to drive those trucks you better find a race you can beat him at.
@@alexcasares7401 Try again. In the K&N series, she intentionally took out her teammate, Derek Krause, to get the win for herself. That angered TRD and they dropped her from their driver diversity program soon afterwards. Daddy Deegan begged Ford Motorsports to give her a 2nd chance and she's ruining it.
I wonder when BFM will do a Nascar bust video for Natalie Decker?
She raced her ass off in Tony Stewart’s SRX series on dirt and finished second to…….Tony Stewart, I think she’d be great in the Xfinity series.
Shes had a ton of bad luck this season alot of incidents she was caught up in. Expectations may be high for her, and have been since she got to the truck series but just like any spot there is a huge learning curve. Some come out of the gate and have success right away and others it takes a little bit of time. At the end of the day she's human and with anything in life we all learn at a different pace
Evan Wallace, rather than trying to improve, she does tomboy childish dumbass high-risk antics with all her boy buddies instead. Go watch all her UA-cam videos. The proof is there for all to see.
One thing we MUST factor into all of these poor performances: the IMMENSE pressure she is under to perform as a female driver, especially one with as much potential as her.
There's also the additional pressure of having a recognizable name too - seems like having a famous name is more a curse than a blessing, as there are so many names that have failed to live up to the expectations right across the motorsport spectrum - Schumacher being a very famous current example.
@@SultanOfSlam69 I guess it's a double edged sword. On one hand, name recognition makes her sponsor friendly and helps getting a ride. On the other hand as you mentioned, comes pressure to perform. I wish her the best, she's how I'm trying to get my daughter into motorsports, lol
@@SS-kz7td yeah I do truly hope she does well, we need more positive role models for young girls to get into motorsports, we haven’t really seen anyone at the top level since Danica and we all know how that turned out!
Someone actually called her Danica Patrick 2.0, to me that's the biggest insult you could give a up and coming female driver like Hailie who has genuine talent
She just needs to take her lumps now, suffer through her growing pains and when she gets through all of that she'll be a pretty damn good driver by the time she hits the NASCAR circuit
Lonestar, Danica Patrick became the most successful female race car driver in auto racing history. "Failie" Deegan isn't qualified to walk in Danica Patrick's shadow.
I still have a ton of faith In her and being my second fav truck driver behind crafton I really hope she gets things turned around, we also can't forget too that she is young and is gonna struggle.we can't expect every prospect to simply light the world on fire right away especially with a team that's not doing much for her or being in the wrong place wrong time including how stiff the current competition is at the moment it doesn't take a genius to know that shes gonna get steamrolled by guys who have been here wayyyyyy longer than her or deal with the growing pains and frustrating times almost every young driver gets into when they first get on track and have very little experience I mean come on, but aside from that she has talent she has the skills and is gaining more and more experience in the passing time. She'll hopefully in the next few years fingers crossed have things figured out and become a pretty solid driver ik she can do it, just give it time.🙏👌
Hailie Deegan is a good driver in the truck series and this is a great video from Black Flags Matter
Get ready for a bold take. When Zane Smith inevitably leaves the 38 truck, she should be talking to FRM to take over the 38 seat. DGR are an OK team, but are not looking like a good fit for her, especially in a developmental role. What Deegan needs is a higher profile team that can better work with her behind the scenes to get better on track results. Granted I do not want her to go to FRM for cup or even Xfinity, but it's basically where Ford is at as far as teams go. PS 38 is her family's number and her original number before going to pavement.
Justin Young, the equipment/team is not the problem, the driver is. Tanner Gray is in the same equipment and he's far better than she is. Of the 18 full-time truck series drivers, she ranks 18th. 2021 season, she ranked 17th.
I’m not ready to throw the bust label out just yet.
Hailie is the first female nascar racer with an actual chance to win, due to her family genes. Kind of like John Forces family. Its absolutely a hereditary trait. Now in Drag racing no one is bumping into you or purposely crashing you like the men continuously do in Stock car racing. So i believe Hailie will advance through the ranks when she can learn to push the truck a bit harder then she currently does. Shes not timid in dirt track truck racing, but those trucks are far more forgiving then these trucks are. Give her a part time xfinity spot to get more track time (Kyle drives all 3 series) so she can learn to be more aggressive and she will excel.
Racing talent isn’t genetic, lmao. What a stupid thing to say.
As usual : IT'S ALWAYS, SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT !