Is this indie dev TRYING to get sued?
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Zero Ops is a brand new SOCOM-like experience that is riding the line between inspired by and stolen from. Let's talk about it.
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Fry without glasses is a vibe I didn't know I could relate to.
Bro looks like he has the weight of 2 garbage bins on his eye bags. Stressful
@@Headlessperp
With pushing out content and leading full game development, it definitely would be
😂😂😂 no.
AHHHH THAT'S IT! I was wondering what was different lmao. Gotta finish watching now TTFN Ta Ta For Now
Update... when did he get the scar on his cheek. Never saw that before lol.
Being so passionate about Socom I must say seeing so many failed attempts to recreate the Socom Magic is really heartbreaking. I don't know if we'll ever get anything even close to what's Socom was in its heyday. This is so sad and unfortunate. You legit echoed every concern that I had about this title before releasing. Thank you for another solid video and keep on killing shit. love you.
Its not over!
@@zeroopsgame Hopefully, it will be. 😆
There’s as much passion in this game as someone who’s getting ready for a funeral.
Zero Ops is lazy, unmotivated and just trying to make a quick buck.
Thanks for the fire content, Fry 🔥
Hey @SirBlackout_ I put lots of passion into the project and admittingly probably to much of my SOCOM Passion showed. The game is free to play! Im alot of things but lazy is not one. Were fixing things asap thanks your feedback. Were definitely pushing towards recrating what we originally imagined and pressing forward to exceed expectations eventually. We know its a rough world out here expecially for a small team like us with 0 funds. Hopefully we can exceed your expectations one day. If there is anything im not, its lazy. Im currenly active duty military and I think that my passion was flooded more towards socom due to the profound effect it had on my life.
@zeroops3rdpersontacticalsh429 LOL. You can't even spell properly. 😂 Plus, that wall of text isn't helping.
What you have 700 confirmed kills in Desert Storm?
@@KAPAFlyer No I'm still in the military as we speak. Yeah I was in the shower replying on my phone 😂.
I will say this and it will always be the truth.
*"No one loves CLASSIC would make a mobile shooting game, NO ONE"*
I said it. lol Main creator here. It was my only outlet ad venue to attack given my timeline and background. It started as a fun project. This game started as a passion project where we were taking our faves and trying to put spins on them to make them our own. There is defintely not a cash grab here. The game is free to play. I and 1-2 friends have been working on this game in our free time. Were already scrapping our inspiried maps and going in a different direction as we should of from the start. I think I personally got caught up in the who recreation of wanting SOCOM so bad and was blinded by my own projects journey. Thank you for the feedback and criticism. I vow to get better and post further to one day exceed everyones expectations!
6:31 I was going to ask that since you like games from Zipper, if you've ever played Unit 13 on the Vita... thinking probably not because I've always felt I was the only one with a Vita but then BAM! you bust out the Vita with Unit 13 right on the home screen lol!
ngl made me smile a bit seeing someone with the Vita
I'm glad coverage like this is done.
Hate cash grabs or devs putting out piss poor projects and claiming it to be something else.
As of late, the Devs from Cycle Frontier really have me cheesed on how they handled that game.
Gaming is frustrating today.
Hey Blood!! Main Creator here. Ive seen alot of responses here and we here you. This game started as a passion project where we were taking our faves and trying to put spins on them to make them our own. There is defintely not a cash grab here. The game is free to play. I and 1-2 friends have been working on this game in our free time. Were already scrapping our inspiried maps and going in a different direction as we should of from the start. I think I personally got caught up in the who recreation of wanting SOCOM so bad and was blinded by my own projects journey. Thank you for the feedback and criticism. I vow to get better and post further to one day exceed everyones expectations!
@@zeroopsgame
Thanks for responding. That is good to hear that a refocus is being conducted. We definitely look forward to see where this project goes.
@@xBloodXGusherx Thanks man! Hope to gain some love back. i know its going to be rough but Im up for the challenge. Thanks for all the feedback.
This hits home for I too am a huge SOCOM fan and it sucks to know that we may never get another good game. It motivates me to want to drop what I am doing for my personal project and try my hardest to work on a SOCOM like game but I know it would be very tough, especially for a solo dev as myself. Either way, great video and you had me laughing on this one. "Transformative" lol.
The sad state of Shooters continues. How does stuff like this get released to the public? What an embarrassment. Even if this is Alpha, they have a LONG way to go
We do! And were here for it. Thank you for the feedback
Some aspects of the game look good, kill feed, main menu, models. I think it's just to early to shit on the game. The description of the game should probably be changed though,
Give it a year i think it will be a lot better.
Dev here. Thank you man. Taking in all the feedback and pressing forward.
The reason the game won't have aim assist is because they have no idea how to implement it. It has nothing to do with them claiming to give an authentic realistic feel.
In all honesty, the insurgency mod “Resurgence” was probably the closest we’ve ever gotten to SOCOM. I honestly miss it so much
i feel like this is building up to fry's team making a socom style game which im all in for
Man I remember the headsets with the call outs. So cool 😎
There's a free mobile game that I played a while back called Battle Prime. It's both an FPS and TPS game. I think you should try it out.
Socom was such a good game
Indeed!
If there's something that has always impressed me about the mobile market, it's how games on these platforms manage to steal images, sounds ,assets and animations from other games and, somehow,they find a way to get away.
Because they aren't selling the game and people usually don't pay attention to the mobile gaming market, which is ironic because its one of the biggest markets in gaming.
Hey brother! I can promise not a single asset was stolen. Main Creator here. Ive seen alot of responses here and we here you. This game started as a passion project where we were taking our faves and trying to put spins on them to make them our own. There is defintely not a cash grab here. The game is free to play. I and 1-2 friends have been working on this game in our free time. Were already scrapping our inspiried maps and going in a different direction as we should of from the start. I think I personally got caught up in the who recreation of wanting SOCOM so bad and was blinded by my own projects journey. Thank you for the feedback and criticism. I vow to get better and post further to one day exceed everyones expectations!
@@zeroopsgame
I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention Caliber at around 7:53 in terms that games that capture that SOCOM feeling
That game isn’t even fucking close to feeling like Socom other than it being a TPS…
Fry please make a socom style game after your first is done. Feel like your probably the only one who could do it justice
Shout out to Unit 13. Kudos to zipper for not attaching the socom name to it lol
7:00 yooo, i forgot about that game. I bought a PS Vita when i was in infantry school in the corps because we were only allowed to have phones on the weekends... so one weekend i bought the Vita and just hid it in my wall locker and would play that game at night.
One thing I noticed with a lot of these SOCOM style games is while the guys are passionate they never try to get enough people to actually make the games they dream of. Having to pull double, triple, or quadruple duty means these guys cut corners and have to do things they're not capable of doing. I think that's why we keep seeing all the SOCOM map ripoffs, they don't have anyone capable of doing proper map design so they resort to going "'memba Desert Glory? 'memba Frostfire? We 'made' a map just like it." I've seen this way too many times in indie development, people have an idea and lack the skills or experience, they don't want to grab people to do the project, or they don't want pushback on their ideas because the game is their baby and any criticism is taken as a direct attack on the project instead of genuine suggestions to improve the product.
LOL. Look at the text prompts. "Player has Left of Match" 😂
Holy shit just realized you aren’t wearing glasses. Looks good bro! Great video.
H-hour was the closest anyone came to making a good Socom game. It's pretty spot on. There's just no one playing it.
I miss doing the 'ninja jump' in Socom
Hi BigFry, well this is somewhat of an Template-Flip(?) they used a unity FPS Template and did a shitty job customizing this. I only know this cause im using the same template (not the mobile version). This will be a problem like pure asset flips - this time they may changed some models, but not the sounds and game modes or even the gun handling. the Weapon customisation is 1:1 the (Addon) you can buy for the Template. And NO not playing this :D
Lol they were waiting for you to fire the first shot😂
4:22 "Ok everybody shoot each other on the count of 3!"
New developers need to have the mindset that Socom is a navy seal training software for situations rather than just a third person shooter when attempting to create their projects. After you see it as a software to train in certain situations and environments, then you can go back into the game and add more guns and customizations. I would love to have the opportunity to spend countless hours creating a game like Socom. Somewhere along the way these developers think they have to take people away from call of duty and and other braindead shooter games so they must include functions that they have in order to compete. They don’t get that Socom doesn’t have a competitor; their developers did not and would not find answers for solving issues and mismanaged a lot of their money made off Socom and 1&2.
You expanded from bullying lazy devs on PC and Consoles to Mobile too! nice, so much stuff to cover there
Combat Master is one thing, but this game looks as though if CrossFire, Call of Duty, and Sniper Elite had a three-way unprotected sex and then brought THIS bugbear into this world!
Illll take it. 😂
I think that some devs today genuinely don’t give a shit what type of products they push out as long as they get paid for it. This game is an obvious cash grab. Devs like this make it harder to trust other indie devs who want to give players quality products.
Creator here. I definitely care! Our game is free and would never charge for it until I know that its work it. There no cash grab and I know I have room to improve!
@@zeroopsgame that’s very reassuring to hear. Keep up the good fight to keep your game marketable!
Them not testing it would be the best case scenario. Worst case would be them thinking it's fine 👀
Wish you would just make a fucking socom game already
The running animation kills me 😂
We will improve it haha. It is kinda wonky!
@@zeroopsgame hey no hate from me. I bigfry can come off harsh but I full heartedly believe he just wants you guys to pull shit together. Clean up animations, make sure the problems he was experiencing are fixed. Get rid of any copyright issues. Maybe get a map maker on the team and get custom maps in game. Make a 3rd person shooter experience that a younger you would be proud to play. Also take player feedback seriously. Not every idea is a great one but there is still gold to be heard.
Weight loss champion over here. Looking great man!
If there ever is a successful socom remake the toxic fans would surely make sure nobody else would want to play it anyways. May socom rest peacefully in the dunes of time
Bro too bad Caliber ditched the over the head camera for the shoulder camera, that would be the closest socom like game yet
Could You maybe cover Caliber again, I know you used to play it and it changed some of the parts, it would be nice to hear your thoughts on it!
Been following zero ops for a lot of time, it is based on MFPS. Was surprising to see it in your video, it used to be so small
i still got my PSP from years ago.
The PSP is so 👍 good
@@zeroopsgame its basically edged into my childhood. I got the old Battlefront 2 inside of it always on standby.
So if they are trying to remake Socom, Right? Then why is the kill scroll ripped straight out of call of duty? And why is there points displayed on the screen when you kill someone just like in call of duty? Why do the characters run like they do in call of duty? And there is even a call of duty map? These developers obviously spent more hours playing call of duty and are beyond confused. This is embarrassing and disrespectful to the Socom community. It makes me soo angry that resources were wasted on another mock call of duty game.
This is en masse the mobile market. Between complete rip offs of games to straight up stolen advertising is incredible.
These are a dime a dozen and complete marketplace asset mop ups.
Sony needs to make socom 4 and revive the studio that made socom
I will pay 100 bucks for a SOCOM game.
But the twist is you gotta get it on console
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the upper body anims are horrific. I think they used FPS anims instead of TPS
They are a little wonky. We are gonna smooth them out for sure haha
@@zeroopsgame aah ok.yeah they seem to be retargeted incorrectly(I assume) or not scaled accordingly
This game made in unity using mfps assets..
Main creator here. 100 percent correct. It was the best way to get a project started without having to figure out alot of intial mechanics.
Fry you know... If you want socom so bad maybe you guys should make it yourselves?
At this point, if bigfrys game does good, he should make a classic socom style game. Because I would play tne fucking shit out of it lol.
At what extent can you even sue for similar gameplay aspects you know? Like battle bit, Doom clones etc. I do not think you can sue for gameplay similarities.
The title is funny because it implies that Sony gives enough of a shit about SOCOM to actually sue anyone for blatantly ripping it off.
I agree with you bro they don’t know the formula and just rushing trash
It's less *"tactical warfare"* and more *"tactical plagiarism!!"* 😂😂
There are similarities for sure. But we imagined them we wanted when we were younger. We got caught up and admit it. Going to scrap for new maps ASAP.
Fry if you could do a deep dive on the Training and War simulation scam it would be appreciated!
the stare
Yep. Little bit scary, don’t you think?
Uhh.... 😑
Great vid Fry!
i feel like bringing up the Vita socom game with these devs, they forgot it existed and will now straight up rip the game from the Vita if they watch your video
You can find the same thing for Counter Strike.
any unity enjoyer knows this is some of the easiest shit to build,you steal a couple assets(80% of the game)
I am hoping zero ops and peak 53 will get better as time goes on, I love socom to death and so many failed attempts it’s fing heart breaking. I am hoping these games will get better over time. I’ll say this unless Sony makes it we won’t ever get a real socom game.
They will not get better. Wasting your time
LMFAO just ripped not only from battlefield, but also the worst one KEKW LMFAO
4:20. That's it. That's the game
There is something big coming to Peak.53. Say what you want fry but there are things coming nobody knows about. Id venture to say Im probably a bigger socom fan than even you are. Corners are not being cut in the background. You are very much out of the loop right now especially using footage from last year.
Cool. We’ll see at launch. I hope so.
Definitely got the name right Zero 😅😅😅😅😅
Ive been playing the fuck out of the old socom games lately
I'm glad to be early. Love your content
I wish they would just re-release MW2/MW2/BO1/BO2 multiplayer just cuz that way they dont #$@#$ it up LOL
Why are people trying to recreate socom experience ? No one wants early 2000s experience. We want envolved experience. Take what zipper did and envolved the experience. Don't make just a carbon copy of something we got 20 plus years ago. Sad
Maby they got acronym wrong? Suck Our Consumers Out Money
That is funny and clever lol. Creator here. Zero Opsgame is free! and would never charge until I feel that its worth it and im honest with myself. Looking forward to the improvements and chagning peoples minds.
You should make a video on operator its the best worst game I’ve ever tried to play
Nice to see you covering mobile games.
There are some good ones, but you will find a lot of bad ones, like on Steam.
Oh, also no aim assist on mobile works well. Standoff 2 is an example of that. Its pretty much CSGO.
Its content just waiting for you.
Gamings so stale we've gone to mobile games
I totally agree 😂
put the glasses back on.
Its a unity asset i think . Asset name is mfps
For sure! It is. Main creator here. It is a heavily modified version.
Mobile is simply dumb. Who the heck would play on their phone? I don't have that much downtime where I can whip out a match in a lineup. Hilarious.
Mobile is a giant market in other countries that continues to grow! It's insane
How comes you are so mean ? Isn't that a project of passion ?
First of all, I will never touch a mobile game lol, second this game looks bad.
Nobody, and I mean nobody has ever come close to reviving, recreating a suitable, great recreation of a Socom like game. Not even come close. Yes I have 1800 hours in HHOUR, or even shoot the shit on Peak 53. HHOUR is what got me into PC gaming, have cool gaming friends that I play it with still, met you and all the other great gaming friends/players from HHOUR. Its just there, lol...
With that said, we may only get mediocre out of the indie space when it comes to Socom. Until a great recreation comes along, that's just how it will be. Unfortunately.
It definitely is a work in progress. Its a hard thing to do. But im still vowed to create an expirience through continued updates.
I bet they'll get away with it lol have you not seen Critical-Strike? That game is a straight rip off of Counter-Strike and has been around for years. The dev actually did an open alpha/beta for this game via TestFlight like 6 months ago. It was meh but probably the only Socom-like game on phones.
Nothing to get away with here. They are simliar but we added cool changes we though would play better. We are in the process of scrapping and just making new expiriences. On us.
Oh boy more drama
Mobile, pfff NEXT...
The only true mobile gaming I know are PC handhelds and Switch is kinds OK though I don't like most of its games...
Player left of match.
Our servers were bad. Lots of issues here were ironing out!
Take them down
Definitely GOTY
Thanks man! Haha. We have work to do on a serious note...
The "developer" is here in the comments, huffing copium HARD. 😂
I'm here man! Not huffing. Just taking in all the awesome feedback. Much appreciated
You should cover a game called "OPERATOR," it released yesterday and for 1 developer and $20 for the game, with the guy actively working on patches, it's a pretty decent and indepth game
I did cover it. A few weeks ago!
There's a million mobile games doing sketchy stuff. Doubt they will see any issues. Probably a chinese dev team. They don't care. lol
Honestly I hope Peak.53 does well I played the alpha but not recently because they're working on a new update, but I think I'm just hopeful for a PC SOCOM like experience it might not for everyone but I just want a SOCOM like experience that is better than H Hour World's Elite which isn't saying much because that game could've been great I liked it for what it was but since there was no more development on it the game pretty much failed like you said. I hope your game does well though even if it is a singleplayer game which doesn't bother me I'll try it out once it releases.
I mean its only an alpha....
No glory holes in this title eh?
I promise no! LOL
Switching to your face at 4:33 was just corny. I get u were trying to be funny and show your "reaction" but u should of just showed the gameplay and we would of gotten the point
I can tell just lazy to copy and paste assets. There is liar as there should be programmer but they are not programmer at all. It clearly watermark test. I think it stolen how could those bug exist. Those indie dev would not see this simple mistake and I bet they are not good at coding it. Still need to research who really in charge and just feel like scam. No one copy rights image to lead to lawsuit.
Hey! Its definitely not copy and past assets. Creator here. We recreated the maps based on how we wanted them to play.
might be the H-hour devs LOL
We're different devs. They ripped 1 for 1. Ours were rebuilt and re imagined .. but we're scraping them.
LMAO wth is this controler
Caliber and Task Force were the closest thing you'll get to reliving Socom. Unless you develop something yourself its not gonna happen.
All I gotta say is...... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes
Steam is like tubi lol
Can't wait for the devs to cry to you to delete the video
Dev here. I love the video. It gives me awesome feedback. Already changing things around.
Its a ripoff of a ripoff who cares nobody is playing this garbo
Mobile game 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣