There aren't many fencing tutorials out there nor have I found any 'UA-cam coaches' that I connected with. The way you explain things, the ambient music in the background and overall presentation are really awesome! I'm an epeeist but I'm going to learn foil in the coming weeks so this video is perfect for me! You've done an amazing job here and I look forward to watching more of your videos!
good video... the way i show (well used to ... don't coach much these days) people an easy way to learn how to flick is to start with a coupe' to the shoulder and gradually work back with each hit (when you are conformable) til it becomes more of a real flick...
Heya! Quick question: I used to fence foil just a few times as a kid and really liked it, so I wanted to get back into fencing since. Now many years later, I moved into a city which finally has a fencing club, but they only had starting sports in the epée team. I went with it anyways, but I'm wondering - can I still switch to foil someday (because, don't ask me why, I still just really prefer it) and get use out of learning epée - except for the grip of course and the sports where to hit your opponent, the moves and tricks shouldn't be that much apart, right?
Forrest.. have you heard of the parry to stop flicks? i remember people talking about it and laughingly saying it was coined by the russians as the nuvelo or ninth parry in the 90's - hand position in the sabre quinte parry with the blade almost vertical to catch the incoming blade....
Step 1: accept that the sport of fencing is a hollowed out shell of what it used to represent and that the only purpose of the sport fencing weapon is to serve as an electrical circuit completion mechanism for "scoring points" and "winning".
Which foil blade du you recommend for people who are to weak to flick with stiff blades, soft blades are a bit too luck-based for me, would you recommend medium blades, and from which brand (model name)
What is the point of a flick...and why is it legal? If the point of foil practice was to safely learn how to fight with a Smallsword...learning to flick would be a complete waste of time...not to mention needlessly opening the practitioner to harm. Neither Smallswords nor Epee De Combats are whippy enough to accomplish this. I realize that people no longer fight with Smallswords...but allowing techniques like the flick take the sport further and further away from its original form!
What you said is completely valid. Flicks wouldn't occur in a real sword fight. However, with the advent of electric fencing, the flick was born. Fencers flick because it can't be blocked like a regular thrust (riposte). It's almost like a cheat code due to electronic scoring. Because of what you said, fencing officials tried to eliminate flicking by increasing the timing of the point. The tip has to stay on the person's body for a few milliseconds longer or else the machine won't recognize the touch. However, fencers were able to get around this and keep the tip on the body longer while still flicking. I do think you have a point. Flicks wouldn't exist in real life since they wouldn't do much damage in a real fight. The only problem is if officials make the tip harder to depress (eliminating the flick), it would really hurt. So the flick is probably here to stay. Maybe, if they increased the timing even longer so that you need to keep the tip depressed for an entire half second? On the other hand, some fencers like the ability to flick…
@@realhumanbean57 My problem with Olympic fencing is that they all want to point to classical fencing and it's martial past as being the history of their sport! So on the one hand they claim the martial heritage...but whenever someone criticizes the sport for its lack of martial effectiveness...they turn around and say..."it's just a sport"! I've even heard past Olympic fencers talk about how deadly their skills with a sword are! When the fact is...modern day classical fencers would quickly and easily kill an Olympic fencer in actual combat!
I don't think this is the correct way to flick. It seems that a lot of people think this is the correct way to flick due to a video put out by Race Imboden. When you see a person flick, it seems like the fencer is merely lowering the blade at an angle. The momentum of the blade is making it look like this. But that's not what the fencer is actually doing. For example, notice how, in this video, the fencer's blade low position when he starts his flick. He only raises his blade to a high position AFTER he finishes the flick when the flick is over.
Great video! Beautiful editing and very clear explanations 😄
Thanks so much! 😊
I'd love some épée and sabre videos! I'm a high school coach and will definitely be directing my students to your channel.
Ill be sure to film some content for the other weapons too!
Loved learning about this!! Can not wait to use this with my French grip!! Also do you model??
lmao you troll
Thank you Forest. Can you show more raw lessons even without explanations. thank you again
Upload more, saw you in Cabriès the other day we need new tutorials for fencing so that I don’t suck as much anymore ❤
Great fencing video! Good to see a nicely edited fencing instruction video, which will help promote the sport.
Thanks! I'll be sure to offer more content, stay tuned!
Definitely the best flicking guide video I've seen. Can't believe you only have 91 subs, definitely deserve alot more!
Great , the best flick video I have ever seen. Can't wait for your warm up video.
There aren't many fencing tutorials out there nor have I found any 'UA-cam coaches' that I connected with. The way you explain things, the ambient music in the background and overall presentation are really awesome! I'm an epeeist but I'm going to learn foil in the coming weeks so this video is perfect for me! You've done an amazing job here and I look forward to watching more of your videos!
That means alot, I'm glad I could help! I'll continue to produce content, let me know if you want anything specific covered!
YOU HAVE ONLY 39 SUBS YOU DESERVE MORE BRO
great vidoe
for your first video this is great, please keep up the good work man, subbed
Thanks for the sub!
Super thorough. Nothing else like it on UA-cam. Hope you produce more this good. Maybe a counterattack/counter time video?
good video... the way i show (well used to ... don't coach much these days) people an easy way to learn how to flick is to start with a coupe' to the shoulder and gradually work back with each hit (when you are conformable) til it becomes more of a real flick...
Awesome, thanks so much I will be using this quite a lot over the next year of practice!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks, Forest!
nice work fella!
Great video dude.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@FNMacDougall Looking forward to the next one.
Who's that foxy man with the foil?!
Thanks from Bangladesh
Great content on fencing
Heya! Quick question: I used to fence foil just a few times as a kid and really liked it, so I wanted to get back into fencing since. Now many years later, I moved into a city which finally has a fencing club, but they only had starting sports in the epée team. I went with it anyways, but I'm wondering - can I still switch to foil someday (because, don't ask me why, I still just really prefer it) and get use out of learning epée - except for the grip of course and the sports where to hit your opponent, the moves and tricks shouldn't be that much apart, right?
Great video!! May you please show more for Sabre?
Very good
thnx, usefull,👍
Forrest.. have you heard of the parry to stop flicks? i remember people talking about it and laughingly saying it was coined by the russians as the nuvelo or ninth parry in the 90's - hand position in the sabre quinte parry with the blade almost vertical to catch the incoming blade....
just do a high 6 with the blade pointing slightly outward and that will catch them. I guess you could also do a parry 9 and it would work too
I would love some sabre videos!
Step 1: accept that the sport of fencing is a hollowed out shell of what it used to represent and that the only purpose of the sport fencing weapon is to serve as an electrical circuit completion mechanism for "scoring points" and "winning".
Which foil blade du you recommend for people who are to weak to flick with stiff blades, soft blades are a bit too luck-based for me, would you recommend medium blades, and from which brand (model name)
I would recommend an apex foil blade from Leon Paul and get the handle set down and left
oh i've seen you at tournaments.
Where did you get the practice dummy
Please upload epee flick lesson no one uploaded
I have a french grip and a stiff VNITI blade I ain't doing this lmao
ALWAYS POST THE WORD flick IN LOWER CASE
HaHa, FlICkS aRe FuN
What is the point of a flick...and why is it legal? If the point of foil practice was to safely learn how to fight with a Smallsword...learning to flick would be a complete waste of time...not to mention needlessly opening the practitioner to harm. Neither Smallswords nor Epee De Combats are whippy enough to accomplish this. I realize that people no longer fight with Smallswords...but allowing techniques like the flick take the sport further and further away from its original form!
because it isn't HEMA. it's Olympic Fencing.
What you said is completely valid. Flicks wouldn't occur in a real sword fight. However, with the advent of electric fencing, the flick was born. Fencers flick because it can't be blocked like a regular thrust (riposte). It's almost like a cheat code due to electronic scoring.
Because of what you said, fencing officials tried to eliminate flicking by increasing the timing of the point. The tip has to stay on the person's body for a few milliseconds longer or else the machine won't recognize the touch. However, fencers were able to get around this and keep the tip on the body longer while still flicking.
I do think you have a point. Flicks wouldn't exist in real life since they wouldn't do much damage in a real fight. The only problem is if officials make the tip harder to depress (eliminating the flick), it would really hurt. So the flick is probably here to stay. Maybe, if they increased the timing even longer so that you need to keep the tip depressed for an entire half second?
On the other hand, some fencers like the ability to flick…
@@realhumanbean57 You're right. There's nothing Historical or Martial Art about it!
@@Master...deBater Yeah... because olympic fencing isn't trying to be martial. Which isn't a bad thing. It's perfectly fine, honestly.
@@realhumanbean57 My problem with Olympic fencing is that they all want to point to classical fencing and it's martial past as being the history of their sport! So on the one hand they claim the martial heritage...but whenever someone criticizes the sport for its lack of martial effectiveness...they turn around and say..."it's just a sport"! I've even heard past Olympic fencers talk about how deadly their skills with a sword are! When the fact is...modern day classical fencers would quickly and easily kill an Olympic fencer in actual combat!
Could you please wear your mask sir? I am too distracted by the hotness to pay attention.
I don't think this is the correct way to flick. It seems that a lot of people think this is the correct way to flick due to a video put out by Race Imboden. When you see a person flick, it seems like the fencer is merely lowering the blade at an angle. The momentum of the blade is making it look like this. But that's not what the fencer is actually doing.
For example, notice how, in this video, the fencer's blade low position when he starts his flick. He only raises his blade to a high position AFTER he finishes the flick when the flick is over.