Yes. I have version one. I agree with a lot of what Luke says, but his hot humid summers are not our UK weather. However, I rarely use it and never in windy weather, where despite the guy lines the tent is buffeted all over the place. Very popular with motor bike campers due to its small pack size and weight. Much prefer the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2
I love it because it's nice and warm inside while the ventilation still works nicely if you open up both vents. Just bought it and spent two nights in it. I'm 1,74. It's perfect for me and my gear. Setting it up is stupidly easy and fast as well I think. I'll mainly use it for kayaking. At the water rains and storms are quite common. But it totally isn't for two persons.
@@WatchMysh thanks. I'm exactly 1,74 too and I'm wondering whether to get the 1 person version which should be warmer or the "2" person version. Currently I use the Naturehike UL/Spider 1 and don't really like it, it's quite cold, it's a bit small and the pitching is quite annoying.
Sounds like a good one man tent for us here in the UK. I hate full mesh tents for the UK. There's nothing pleasant about being blasted in the face with cold air when you're trying to sleep.
I was looking up their other tents, and it looks like their Star River tent gives you a similar cloth coverage above the bathtub, but it has a crossbar so there's a little more room to maneuver inside. The Star River also has side doors so it should be easier to get in and out from.
I’ve bought and reviewed this tent about a month ago and really liked it. Yes it’s not great for our hot summers here in Greece, but I have other tents for then. This is perfect for cooler Autumn/Spring days/nights. I can’t wait to take it out in winter (although not when it’s snowing). All the best Luke 😊👍🏼🙏🏼🏕️
Also a plus in sandy conditions. Also doing review with zero breeze. He would have been hot even if that tent was mesh down 4 inches. I'm doubtful that those solid side panels at the bottom make that much difference. Viewers chime in if you have tested this tent in warm weather please. Valid point on not putting pulls on that inner to pull it out or attach it to fly when you pull out the fly.
Looks like a dedicated Fall tent to me, let in some cool air without freezing your giblets off and keeping you comfortable down low. Also a tent I would ABSOLUTELY take out in the UK, say on Dartmoor.
Watched heaps of reviews on this tent and you are the first to mention the material and heat. Something us Australians need to consider with our 35degree C summer nights.
Your approach to reviewing the many factors affecting this tent’s performance is impressively thorough. Your judgements are fair and justified by the observations you point out. Most of all, I applaud your constructive recommendations. If only more people understood how important it is to present solutions along with problems!
Hey Luke, I just wanted to thank you for all your videos. A relative of mine passed away in June and was such a camping enthusiast. He was 76 and just had just retired before sadly passing away. Over the last few years he had been watching your videos and purchasing items that you have recommended on your channel as well as AB Camping and Steve Wallis. The last purchase was the Soto-st320 stove about 4 months ago but unfortunately didn't get a chance to try it out for himself. He purchased an electric bike and made his own trailer for it and was planning to ride somewhere and camp out for a week. Anyway, again thank you for your reviews and recommendations as I know he took really valued your opinion. All the best
Oh man. I'm so sorry. :( He obviously loved to trek and camp. Hopefully one day you, or maybe some other members of his extended family, can take his brand-new gear and complete his camping dreams. That would be such a nice way to memorialize your relative! He would absolutely be there with you in spirit.
That would be a good tent for a above timberline summer trip. You never know what your going to get in the summer above timberline even some snow flurries in June isn't out of the question, yet the next night might not be under 50 degrees F. Thank you for the awesome reviews.
I saw a guy somewhere over seas with the non pro version, woke up surrounded by inches of water and not a drop entered the tent. That combined with the option to get a rainfly with an extra length of skirt along the bottom, I bought the Cloud Up 2 for a cheap entry into fall/winter backpacking/camping. I just saw Eric Hanson do a review on the Featherstone Granite 2P and it looks like a perfect cheap option for summer camping-- side doors, all mesh, lots of head and shoulder room thanks to the cross-beam design, and it was $109 at the time of the video being made. Planning on acquiring that should I decide to operate in the summer.
I love the way the vent only works well if the wind is blowing the right way, and particularly well if the pouring rain is going the same way (which it will be).🤣🤣🤣 ATB 👍👍👍
So it's a 3.5 season tent. Absolutely love that because spring and fall are my two biggest solo/solo with dog. Unfortunately it looks as complicated as the cloudup to setup (I've had it for 4 years, it's a pita to set up) and it loses a ton of space because it lacks an upper spreader bar. So love the fabric, hate the rest
I was out in the old Cloud Up 2 this weekend, I was out on Dartmoor and woke up in some low cloud. The inner clips to the outer and helps spread the walls somewhat, and it's odd those have gone away. Haven't had an issue with it dripping into the interior with the door back. It's pretty good for the UK climate, I've been out in it in the middle of December with it and it's been fine. I do like the updated poles and clips, the lower weight is attractive, but that higher door might be an issue in the rain.
Just was lookin' for a 10 person tent for myself, yeah I carry a lot of camera gear and like space. Decided to watch the video though for some light campin' equipment. Edit: I like that it has some color coded set up instructions cause I am not the brightest light pole in the neighborhood but I do not like all that mesh.
An honest and informative review, I considered this tent based on the previous model, but ventilation in Queensland Australia is a must. Thanks for sharing 👍
I have the version one. Pros it is built bomb proof. Does not leak. Cons, it is hot. And the door is a pain to get in and out. A great 3 season spring and fall, light snow tent.
The Cloud Up 3 (!) has this "top spreader bar" (NON PRO version - I bought it earlier last year in March or so and used it 4 times now) I plan my next trip in April so then it can also prove if it is watertight :) April has lots of rain here in mid Germany and some storms on the hills too. so will be cool to see how it worx
In the tent in france right now. Its a good bike packing fall season tent. Not been cold except for one night in a ravine type valley ( so right about narrow parameters . Works for bike packing, 100% one man not a 2! Getting in an out is hilarious and dont like all the rain falling in when you open the door 😂 Right about ventilation ,lack of . Might still work for a english early summer,will see... Brillant with the rain.
I've been debating between this tent and the Monger 2. I'm going with the Monger 2, it's a bit heavier but I need a Roomy 2p tent that's small enough for motorcycle use with the wife. Thanks for the new video perfect timing!
Great! That is very light for such a warm and sturdy tent! Without the foorprint it should even weigh only 1.5kg. The perfect cloud up tent you have described exists already - it is the previous non pro cloud up 2
I love your reviews, especially when you do Naturehike. Overall I have been impressed with their stuff and even bought the Mongar 2 mostly based on your reviews of it. It did great even during a major storm that turned into a mild tornado and only ended up with 1 pole splitting but the tent held up. I have been looking into this cloud up tent as a replacement to go a little lighter but in the process of that I came across the cloud wing ultralight tent by naturehike and it seems very intriguing. I would love to see you do a review on that if possible. I have only come across a couple but they just aren’t as good and detailed as yours.
Hey that looks eerily similar to my favorite backpacking tent from 1984 by Sierra Designs, the model "Sphynx"! And less than half the weight of my Sphynx.
Is watching a movie camping question you guys received. I love sweet Susie answer. I think she got a little pissed at the stupid question. I'm with her on that. I think she got a little pissed so did I.🤣🤣
Tonight I've not long been watching Jason from Rambling On who especially swapped out his three season inner for a four season inner in order to stay warm during summer. He is in Ireland, but even so, not everybody will benefit from full-on mesh.
I always find myself looking at Naturehike tents because of the value to quality ratio, but there's always a few drawbacks I can't get past. Monger 3, when it was available, was the closest I got to a 2+ storage tent. Ideally I want all of my tents to be fully meshed all the way to the bathtub floor. And have double vents.
Hi Luke another great review i love your channel for it's adventures and most importantly your honesty i also like seeing yor lovely wife on your trips we should see more of her(Suzie) she is a very classy lady.
this video is extremely interesting to me, some years ago I was considering which tent to buy, it was this one or the "star river 2". after buying the star river I always had a doubt if I made the right choice. FOR MY APPLICATION yes, mine is polyester but weight is not a concern. never got a single drop of rain in even in the worst storms. as this one the mesh is few, so you get condensation, but as you mentioned it doesn't drip in. and I love that is free standing and inside is a literal palace. yup, thanks for the vid! have a nice one! (oh and one thing, I use it at high elevation in Italy and even in the summer is reasonably cool, in winter I stayed good at -4°C but that's because of the sleeping bag)
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I've been looking at the star river 2 for a while, I really like it and now there's a new, UL version of the tent. Looks very good, but the material is very thin and the waterproofing is not very high. You're probably better off with the old version. 👍
Same as alpin loacker.. they are probably produced in same place... I wish I bought this one for winter camping as it blocks wind and Alpin blows cold wind in your face al night lol
The Cloud up three, by Naturehike is similar but addresses most of the cons you describe, more mesh, a pole across the top to give extra space inside, is not much heavier than the two. Mostly they get things about ok, this it seems misses the mark.
Thanks for your review of this tent, Luke. I agree that the tent looks very high quality and comes with all the bells and whistles for $170. I also agree that this particular "spider tent" design isn't optimal for 2 people as only person can sit with their head in the center crest of the tent at a time. On the other hand, during a backpacking trip, most time spent in tent is spent lying down, and in most 2-person backpacking tents, getting dressed in the morning is going to require taking turns. In addition, many individual hikers purchase 2-person tents to make use of the extra space on the inside of the tent for storage. So I think the limited headroom of the tent is going to come down to personal preference and circumstance rather than being objectively compromised by the spider tent design. On the subject of airflow, that is definitely a major issue in heavy rain for tent camping. High humidity in the air causes greater moisture buildup inside the tent, the only remedy to which is excellent ventilation. In heavy rain, without excellent ventilation, you can become drenched in humidity inside the tent. Just for the sake of argument, most backpacking trips probably take place during pleasant weather, with rain gear carried "just in case." For these fair weather trips, having a waterproof tent that can be pitched without a rain fly for ventilation, then buttoned down via the rain fly for storms, might be worth considering, even if the compromised design in regards to airflow prevents the tent from being a contender in high temperature, high humidity environments like a rainforest. Now I have a question for you, Luke! As an agenda-free independent gear reviewer, do you think there could be tendency to review manufacturer-provided products a bit extra critically, in essence perhaps purposefully "erring on the side of caution?" Thanks, Luke! You and Suzie make TOGR the best gear review channel on YT! Fingers crossed you get into reviewing more ultralight backpacking cottage industry gear!
Your recommendations for Naturehike are basically just to make the 3 season inner version of the 3ful Zhengtu 2, which is itself 3ful's improved iteration on the Naturehike Cloud Up 2
The no. 1 drawback for me besides the vetilation, is the one entrance/egress. I couldn't imagine what it woulld be like with two people people having to get into that that tent on the end like that. Not a whole lot of room for even just one person.
I always enjoy your honest reviews and opinions. This does not look like a good tent for southern California. I recently got a Marmot Tungsten UL1 tent and so far have been very impressed with it for the price. I'd love to see what you think. I used the Marmot EOS1 for many years and have been very pleased with its water proof abilities and good workmanship. Marmot has discontinued the EOS.
Have you ever tested a beach canopy. Do they have a place in the camping world? They're new to me. They are made out of a very stretchy fabric. I saw one that doesn't even use guy lines. Try searching Neso Gigante - Portable Beach Tent or the one that doesn't use guy line Shades - Giant Windproof Portable Shade - 15' x 15'. I bet you could make an interesting video about these tarps.
With how well it blocks air flow, I'm actually curious how it would do in the middle of winter. It sounds like it would hold in heat, and the steep sides could be good to shed snow.
So it's ideal for stormy weather and completely waterproof but it's inner pitch first so it'll already be wet inside by the time you get it up, even without opening the door to get inside.
I have the older 20d version and it's true. It's a great tent but with terrible design flaws. I had to build extensions so the fly would pull the main tent outward to give it room. The older version has more mesh and less fabric and that's better on the older one.
I've seen variations of this EXACT tent from numerous Amazon resellers over at least the last 6-7 years. Naturehike didn't design a single thing featured in this video except for maybe that door vent. I even have one of these tents (from a different, now extinct brand of course), though it is an all-mesh inner. It's a fine design, though I don't recommend it for 2 people unless they're a couple (my partner and I have used it together twice without too much trouble and even had our 25 lb dog with us one of those times). The single end door isn't my favorite layout, but it's a simple, effective tent. Condensation has not been a problem in mine. I paid $75 (That's not a typo. $75.00) for the one I have in 2018, and it hasn't let me down after 5-6 uses over the years. I don't have high expectations, but it's still going. Mine has been through storms and never leaked.
Hey, that extra wind protection was improved in demand by Russian climbers. It can be vital when you hike 7-10 days in the mountains. If you hike in the countries with mild and warm climate, cloud up 2 10d would be preferable! See also "mongar 2" (not pro!)
I watched this, and living in North Georgia, there is no way I would ever get that tent. Never mind I’m way too tall for it, but just the doghouse door, lack of ventilation, and lack of inner space is the thing of nightmares. Thanks for reviewing for us as always. To me, this is a no buy, lol.
Good video for the size and weight this is a decent tent in drafty conditions solid material helps keep the draft off you when inside and some mesh helps with condensation and airflow the gap around the bottom of the fly can be increased by pegging further out even in exposed summer spots draft at night can be an issue in a all mesh inner unless the fly has a snow skirt but then condensation may be an issue if too few vents the only way to have control over all this is to have a inner with mesh zip covers that can be adjusted by opening or closing and having a fly with adequete ventilation which can also be opened and closed but this would cost more and add a bit of weight also would it be possible to pitch the outer fly first attached to the groundsheet and clip the inner not sure when sleeping you are low so side narrowing higher up sit up can still be achieved as the height is reasonable for the weight just some ideas to bounce of from your honest review
Hi Luke!! So I just want to bring up one point I don’t think you really consider. You always talk about tents needing less fabric and more mesh. I think it’s super important to consider the sizes of people in regards of how much mesh and fabric they may or may not need. For example I’m 130lbs and because of that I’m very cold natured. So someone like me would be happier with more fabric and less mesh.. You’re obviously bigger than I am so you would require more mesh and less fabric. I think it’s super important to remember that we’re all Different shapes and sizes and while this tent may not work for you in may be just right for me or others my size. Thanks for the vids and look forward to more.
Another great no nonsense review! What is your fave 2P UL freestanding tent? Curious. I have the Wechsel Exogen zero 1P which is a little tight with all my gear in it, weighing at 1.48kg I am looking for something bigger 1.5-2p and hopefully lighter.
Great another video !!! Do you know Ampex tents? I loved my new Ampex tent 2p, and now the Ampex tents is on sale -45%. I think this tent is a great one that can be had. Could you to do a review about Ampex tents? I would like to see your analysis.
Appreciate your videos and honest reviews. As a person from Michigan, I was and possibly still will consider this tent for a one man packable budget hunting tent for Oct.-Dec. Do you think this will be a good choice? I would like to think yes, but the lack of ventilation sounds like it could be problematic due to the possibility of condensation. As my sleeping bag is down and already rated at 20°. I have been raided by bears just being curious before on some much more expensive tents, so I'm trying to be easier on the budget just in case. Basically, I'm just looking for some input. Your input would be greatly appreciated.
A little bit of an unfair review. I don't think there is anything wrong with this tent, it may not be the tent that's right for you in your weather conditions but it is perfectly viable for others. Bringing the right tool for the right job is the user's responsibility. Not the companies. Naturehike does offer a 2 person tent with a more spacious design and more mesh, the Naturehike Mongar. It has everything you asked for; more spacious interior, more mesh, two doors, and a rain fly that pulls away from the body on both sides. It's made with the same materials, just different design. This seems like a much better shelter for your conditions/use.
Like u said, cool/slightly cold weather use. It seems like this has almost no ventilation. Question: I have noticed that in a lot of your videos at Lone Wolf Mountain, you set your camps up on the dirt road(s). Even though it is private property, do you have any worries that some trespassers in vehicles may come whipping around a curve and run into your camps? How do you keep unwanted vehicles/people out? Just curious. Stay safe.
I think it would have a whole lot more space if it just used 2 diagonal hoop poles. How much weight did they save with that design compared to the space they lost & ending up with what is essentially a fairly weighty 1p tent.
For me (who runs cool) and where I live, all that lower fabric would be a useful option... I find lightweight tents tend to be all mesh and I can never get cozy even on summer nights where it still usually gets down to 5-10C. But the roof design is an automatic dealbreaker for me.
looks like a perfect tent for the UK.
Yes. I have version one. I agree with a lot of what Luke says, but his hot humid summers are not our UK weather. However, I rarely use it and never in windy weather, where despite the guy lines the tent is buffeted all over the place. Very popular with motor bike campers due to its small pack size and weight. Much prefer the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2
Not if you're tall, it's the worst design ever for larger people in my experience, there are much better designs these days.
@@Lands_SoloWhat tent is designed for tall people in am 1.9 m tall
I love it because it's nice and warm inside while the ventilation still works nicely if you open up both vents. Just bought it and spent two nights in it. I'm 1,74. It's perfect for me and my gear. Setting it up is stupidly easy and fast as well I think. I'll mainly use it for kayaking. At the water rains and storms are quite common.
But it totally isn't for two persons.
do you have the one or two person version?
@obrys5494 two
@@WatchMysh thanks. I'm exactly 1,74 too and I'm wondering whether to get the 1 person version which should be warmer or the "2" person version.
Currently I use the Naturehike UL/Spider 1 and don't really like it, it's quite cold, it's a bit small and the pitching is quite annoying.
@@obrys5494 I have no idea which could be warmer. Possibly the 1 person version because less space means less air to heat?
@ theoretically yes. Do you find the 2 person version already claustrophobic or is is it just right?
Sounds like a good one man tent for us here in the UK. I hate full mesh tents for the UK. There's nothing pleasant about being blasted in the face with cold air when you're trying to sleep.
I was looking up their other tents, and it looks like their Star River tent gives you a similar cloth coverage above the bathtub, but it has a crossbar so there's a little more room to maneuver inside. The Star River also has side doors so it should be easier to get in and out from.
The original version, not pro, is awesome all round. Great for the UK. 2p is perfect for 1p.
I’ve bought and reviewed this tent about a month ago and really liked it. Yes it’s not great for our hot summers here in Greece, but I have other tents for then. This is perfect for cooler Autumn/Spring days/nights. I can’t wait to take it out in winter (although not when it’s snowing). All the best Luke 😊👍🏼🙏🏼🏕️
I see the drawbacks as an absolute win in bad weather. 🤔
Also a plus in sandy conditions. Also doing review with zero breeze. He would have been hot even if that tent was mesh down 4 inches. I'm doubtful that those solid side panels at the bottom make that much difference. Viewers chime in if you have tested this tent in warm weather please. Valid point on not putting pulls on that inner to pull it out or attach it to fly when you pull out the fly.
Looks like a dedicated Fall tent to me, let in some cool air without freezing your giblets off and keeping you comfortable down low. Also a tent I would ABSOLUTELY take out in the UK, say on Dartmoor.
I had the old version out on Dartmoor this weekend - woke up in a cloud and it's all good. No condensation inside.
Watched heaps of reviews on this tent and you are the first to mention the material and heat. Something us Australians need to consider with our 35degree C summer nights.
Could always leave the top a off on a summer night
Your approach to reviewing the many factors affecting this tent’s performance is impressively thorough. Your judgements are fair and justified by the observations you point out. Most of all, I applaud your constructive recommendations. If only more people understood how important it is to present solutions along with problems!
Hey Luke, I just wanted to thank you for all your videos. A relative of mine passed away in June and was such a camping enthusiast. He was 76 and just had just retired before sadly passing away. Over the last few years he had been watching your videos and purchasing items that you have recommended on your channel as well as AB Camping and Steve Wallis. The last purchase was the Soto-st320 stove about 4 months ago but unfortunately didn't get a chance to try it out for himself. He purchased an electric bike and made his own trailer for it and was planning to ride somewhere and camp out for a week. Anyway, again thank you for your reviews and recommendations as I know he took really valued your opinion. All the best
Oh man. I'm so sorry. :( He obviously loved to trek and camp. Hopefully one day you, or maybe some other members of his extended family, can take his brand-new gear and complete his camping dreams. That would be such a nice way to memorialize your relative! He would absolutely be there with you in spirit.
Still loving my Mongar 2. Even bought a second one. All because of your review.
I'm glad I have the Mongar 2. Perhaps this one was designed with our friends in the UK in mind. I could imagine that they would appreciate this tent.
Yup! Here in old Blighty we need to keep the draughts out! 🤗
Mongar weight 4.7 lbs, 2.1 kg. Mongar good for camping, not so much for backpacking. This tent only weighs 3 lbs, 1.36 kg. Big difference.
Love your vids, maybe you can use the metric system as well? Would be kind!
Yes, please!
Freedom units only
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He does alot of the time, you just have to pay attention for when it pops up on screen.
The world doesn't convert Metric for me ever.😢
Interesting, I think I'll keep my old Cloud Up 2, great tent, been holding up well for 2 years.
love my non pro cloud up 2, use it all year long in summer and snowy winters
Which one is wider in the inside ?
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Looks good for Scottish weather
That would be a good tent for a above timberline summer trip. You never know what your going to get in the summer above timberline even some snow flurries in June isn't out of the question, yet the next night might not be under 50 degrees F. Thank you for the awesome reviews.
It sounds like an ideal tent for Scotland 😁
I saw a guy somewhere over seas with the non pro version, woke up surrounded by inches of water and not a drop entered the tent. That combined with the option to get a rainfly with an extra length of skirt along the bottom, I bought the Cloud Up 2 for a cheap entry into fall/winter backpacking/camping. I just saw Eric Hanson do a review on the Featherstone Granite 2P and it looks like a perfect cheap option for summer camping-- side doors, all mesh, lots of head and shoulder room thanks to the cross-beam design, and it was $109 at the time of the video being made. Planning on acquiring that should I decide to operate in the summer.
That's how a review should be when you get it from a company. Honest. great review as always.
best channel for camping gear reviews!
I love the way the vent only works well if the wind is blowing the right way, and particularly well if the pouring rain is going the same way (which it will be).🤣🤣🤣 ATB 👍👍👍
So it's a 3.5 season tent. Absolutely love that because spring and fall are my two biggest solo/solo with dog.
Unfortunately it looks as complicated as the cloudup to setup (I've had it for 4 years, it's a pita to set up) and it loses a ton of space because it lacks an upper spreader bar.
So love the fabric, hate the rest
This tent makes me happy that I'm a tarp and hammock guy!
I really appreciate the non biased reviews here. Thanks Luke.
I have the original cloudup2 and it’s awesome. The inner connects to the fly and the fly doesn’t go all the way to the ground so there is air flow.
As an early autumn/ later autumn tent I love it. Seems to be well made
I was out in the old Cloud Up 2 this weekend, I was out on Dartmoor and woke up in some low cloud. The inner clips to the outer and helps spread the walls somewhat, and it's odd those have gone away. Haven't had an issue with it dripping into the interior with the door back. It's pretty good for the UK climate, I've been out in it in the middle of December with it and it's been fine.
I do like the updated poles and clips, the lower weight is attractive, but that higher door might be an issue in the rain.
Great review Luke. Thanks for sharing your honest reviews.
Just was lookin' for a 10 person tent for myself, yeah I carry a lot of camera gear and like space. Decided to watch the video though for some light campin' equipment. Edit: I like that it has some color coded set up instructions cause I am not the brightest light pole in the neighborhood but I do not like all that mesh.
It's strange that the company didn't connect the body with the fly in this version, I have the 1 person version and it's a very useful addition.
I have the naturehike mongar 2. And it's great in the summer. I might get this tent for when it's colder.
An honest and informative review, I considered this tent based on the previous model, but ventilation in Queensland Australia is a must. Thanks for sharing 👍
I have the version one. Pros it is built bomb proof. Does not leak. Cons, it is hot. And the door is a pain to get in and out. A great 3 season spring and fall, light snow tent.
My close friend used either the version one or a similar NatureHike one a lot and I'm pretty sure he also thought the door was the most annoying part.
The Cloud Up 3 (!) has this "top spreader bar" (NON PRO version - I bought it earlier last year in March or so and used it 4 times now) I plan my next trip in April so then it can also prove if it is watertight :) April has lots of rain here in mid Germany and some storms on the hills too. so will be cool to see how it worx
Love nature hike, me and the GF got one for a bicycle trip, but its been on multi day canoe trips camping trips and more. Great tents for the price.
i almost bought this. if cannot handle summer heat, its a strait up no from. thanking luke.
straight forward... nice review... keep it up...
Good review. Looks like they were going for a sort of freestanding pup style tent.
Perfect tent for myself in the uk 👍
It would be perfect for most high mountain b-ping in the Rockies or Cascades, Sierras, etc...
Thanks for the review, they're alway good.
In the tent in france right now. Its a good bike packing fall season tent. Not been cold except for one night in a ravine type valley ( so right about narrow parameters . Works for bike packing, 100% one man not a 2!
Getting in an out is hilarious and dont like all the rain falling in when you open the door 😂
Right about ventilation ,lack of . Might still work for a english early summer,will see... Brillant with the rain.
I've been debating between this tent and the Monger 2. I'm going with the Monger 2, it's a bit heavier but I need a Roomy 2p tent that's small enough for motorcycle use with the wife. Thanks for the new video perfect timing!
This is the best honest review! Thank you. I'm about to order now, but your view pops up on my feed. Not good for UAE weather.
Great! That is very light for such a warm and sturdy tent! Without the foorprint it should even weigh only 1.5kg. The perfect cloud up tent you have described exists already - it is the previous non pro cloud up 2
Thanks as is often the case tents.can be improved by small design changes but.rarely are..
I love your reviews, especially when you do Naturehike. Overall I have been impressed with their stuff and even bought the Mongar 2 mostly based on your reviews of it. It did great even during a major storm that turned into a mild tornado and only ended up with 1 pole splitting but the tent held up. I have been looking into this cloud up tent as a replacement to go a little lighter but in the process of that I came across the cloud wing ultralight tent by naturehike and it seems very intriguing. I would love to see you do a review on that if possible. I have only come across a couple but they just aren’t as good and detailed as yours.
Its a great tent for tropical forest here in Indonesia..
i dont want breezes on my face!! haha UK buyers this is a plus point!
Excellent review, Luke. Hopefully, the company will listen to your very reasonable suggestions.
Good review Luke! Hope they listen to ya!
Man you rock!, these reviews are sooo interesting and useful!. Really good job! =)
Hey that looks eerily similar to my favorite backpacking tent from 1984 by Sierra Designs, the model "Sphynx"! And less than half the weight of my Sphynx.
Excellent review.
Is watching a movie camping question you guys received. I love sweet Susie answer. I think she got a little pissed at the stupid question. I'm with her on that. I think she got a little pissed so did I.🤣🤣
Tonight I've not long been watching Jason from Rambling On who especially swapped out his three season inner for a four season inner in order to stay warm during summer. He is in Ireland, but even so, not everybody will benefit from full-on mesh.
I always find myself looking at Naturehike tents because of the value to quality ratio, but there's always a few drawbacks I can't get past. Monger 3, when it was available, was the closest I got to a 2+ storage tent. Ideally I want all of my tents to be fully meshed all the way to the bathtub floor. And have double vents.
Hi Luke another great review i love your channel for it's adventures and most importantly your honesty i also like seeing yor lovely wife on your trips we should see more of her(Suzie) she is a very classy lady.
this video is extremely interesting to me, some years ago I was considering which tent to buy, it was this one or the "star river 2". after buying the star river I always had a doubt if I made the right choice.
FOR MY APPLICATION yes, mine is polyester but weight is not a concern. never got a single drop of rain in even in the worst storms. as this one the mesh is few, so you get condensation, but as you mentioned it doesn't drip in.
and I love that is free standing and inside is a literal palace.
yup, thanks for the vid! have a nice one!
(oh and one thing, I use it at high elevation in Italy and even in the summer is reasonably cool, in winter I stayed good at -4°C but that's because of the sleeping bag)
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I've been looking at the star river 2 for a while, I really like it and now there's a new, UL version of the tent. Looks very good, but the material is very thin and the waterproofing is not very high. You're probably better off with the old version. 👍
I bought the previous version last year. It’s definitely a one person tent. Or with my young son.
Same as alpin loacker.. they are probably produced in same place... I wish I bought this one for winter camping as it blocks wind and Alpin blows cold wind in your face al night lol
The Cloud up three, by Naturehike is similar but addresses most of the cons you describe, more mesh, a pole across the top to give extra space inside, is not much heavier than the two. Mostly they get things about ok, this it seems misses the mark.
Nice.
Thanks for your review of this tent, Luke. I agree that the tent looks very high quality and comes with all the bells and whistles for $170. I also agree that this particular "spider tent" design isn't optimal for 2 people as only person can sit with their head in the center crest of the tent at a time. On the other hand, during a backpacking trip, most time spent in tent is spent lying down, and in most 2-person backpacking tents, getting dressed in the morning is going to require taking turns. In addition, many individual hikers purchase 2-person tents to make use of the extra space on the inside of the tent for storage. So I think the limited headroom of the tent is going to come down to personal preference and circumstance rather than being objectively compromised by the spider tent design.
On the subject of airflow, that is definitely a major issue in heavy rain for tent camping. High humidity in the air causes greater moisture buildup inside the tent, the only remedy to which is excellent ventilation. In heavy rain, without excellent ventilation, you can become drenched in humidity inside the tent. Just for the sake of argument, most backpacking trips probably take place during pleasant weather, with rain gear carried "just in case." For these fair weather trips, having a waterproof tent that can be pitched without a rain fly for ventilation, then buttoned down via the rain fly for storms, might be worth considering, even if the compromised design in regards to airflow prevents the tent from being a contender in high temperature, high humidity environments like a rainforest.
Now I have a question for you, Luke! As an agenda-free independent gear reviewer, do you think there could be tendency to review manufacturer-provided products a bit extra critically, in essence perhaps purposefully "erring on the side of caution?"
Thanks, Luke! You and Suzie make TOGR the best gear review channel on YT! Fingers crossed you get into reviewing more ultralight backpacking cottage industry gear!
Your recommendations for Naturehike are basically just to make the 3 season inner version of the 3ful Zhengtu 2, which is itself 3ful's improved iteration on the Naturehike Cloud Up 2
The no. 1 drawback for me besides the vetilation, is the one entrance/egress. I couldn't imagine what it woulld be like with two people people having to get into that that tent on the end like that. Not a whole lot of room for even just one person.
I always enjoy your honest reviews and opinions. This does not look like a good tent for southern California. I recently got a Marmot Tungsten UL1 tent and so far have been very impressed with it for the price. I'd love to see what you think. I used the Marmot EOS1 for many years and have been very pleased with its water proof abilities and good workmanship. Marmot has discontinued the EOS.
I really want to see you do a review and rain test on the Featherstone Granite 2p.
@TheOutdoorGearReview-o I'm guessing this is one of those youtube scam replies.
There are probably different upgrade versions. Mine still has tension points on the inner tent and less mesh content.
I bet Naturehike regrets sending you that tent. Lol. Looks good for winter.
Have you ever tested a beach canopy. Do they have a place in the camping world? They're new to me. They are made out of a very stretchy fabric. I saw one that doesn't even use guy lines. Try searching Neso Gigante - Portable Beach Tent or the one that doesn't use guy line Shades - Giant Windproof Portable Shade - 15' x 15'. I bet you could make an interesting video about these tarps.
Please review the Ampex 2p tent!
With how well it blocks air flow, I'm actually curious how it would do in the middle of winter. It sounds like it would hold in heat, and the steep sides could be good to shed snow.
So it's ideal for stormy weather and completely waterproof but it's inner pitch first so it'll already be wet inside by the time you get it up, even without opening the door to get inside.
You can pitch it fly first if you put the groundsheet and then clip the inner
I wish you could review the New Zealand designed Zempire Zeus tent… it ticks all the boxes mate.
I have the older 20d version and it's true. It's a great tent but with terrible design flaws. I had to build extensions so the fly would pull the main tent outward to give it room.
The older version has more mesh and less fabric and that's better on the older one.
I've seen variations of this EXACT tent from numerous Amazon resellers over at least the last 6-7 years. Naturehike didn't design a single thing featured in this video except for maybe that door vent. I even have one of these tents (from a different, now extinct brand of course), though it is an all-mesh inner. It's a fine design, though I don't recommend it for 2 people unless they're a couple (my partner and I have used it together twice without too much trouble and even had our 25 lb dog with us one of those times). The single end door isn't my favorite layout, but it's a simple, effective tent. Condensation has not been a problem in mine. I paid $75 (That's not a typo. $75.00) for the one I have in 2018, and it hasn't let me down after 5-6 uses over the years. I don't have high expectations, but it's still going. Mine has been through storms and never leaked.
I purchased the TCOP on the back of your video and i havent looked back. Nothing i have seen since comes close to it.
Hey, that extra wind protection was improved in demand by Russian climbers. It can be vital when you hike 7-10 days in the mountains. If you hike in the countries with mild and warm climate, cloud up 2 10d would be preferable! See also "mongar 2" (not pro!)
There is 15D version of this as well
So as a tent to carry when you don't plan on camping overnight but want to have weather shelter/bug shelter just in case, you can "endorse" this one?
Wow! An Easy Bake oven for people! Canabil's must be buying this in droves! And it will last forever!
I watched this, and living in North Georgia, there is no way I would ever get that tent. Never mind I’m way too tall for it, but just the doghouse door, lack of ventilation, and lack of inner space is the thing of nightmares. Thanks for reviewing for us as always. To me, this is a no buy, lol.
I have this tent and there's loads of room inside for one person
Good video for the size and weight this is a decent tent in drafty conditions solid material helps keep the draft off you when inside and some mesh helps with condensation and airflow the gap around the bottom of the fly can be increased by pegging further out even in exposed summer spots draft at night can be an issue in a all mesh inner unless the fly has a snow skirt but then condensation may be an issue if too few vents the only way to have control over all this is to have a inner with mesh zip covers that can be adjusted by opening or closing and having a fly with adequete ventilation which can also be opened and closed but this would cost more and add a bit of weight also would it be possible to pitch the outer fly first attached to the groundsheet and clip the inner not sure when sleeping you are low so side narrowing higher up sit up can still be achieved as the height is reasonable for the weight just some ideas to bounce of from your honest review
Hi Luke!! So I just want to bring up one point I don’t think you really consider. You always talk about tents needing less fabric and more mesh. I think it’s super important to consider the sizes of people in regards of how much mesh and fabric they may or may not need. For example I’m 130lbs and because of that I’m very cold natured. So someone like me would be happier with more fabric and less mesh.. You’re obviously bigger than I am so you would require more mesh and less fabric. I think it’s super important to remember that we’re all
Different shapes and sizes and while this tent may not work for you in may be just right for me or others my size. Thanks for the vids and look forward to more.
Looks like my Paria Bryce 1p tent. I love that tent. Not sure why nobody reviews it.
It's exactly the same, they ripped it off.
Can you please review Blackdeer Ultralight Boat Solo Tent Pro? Thanks
Another great no nonsense review! What is your fave 2P UL freestanding tent? Curious. I have the Wechsel Exogen zero 1P which is a little tight with all my gear in it, weighing at 1.48kg I am looking for something bigger 1.5-2p and hopefully lighter.
Please do the review of naturehike star river UL 2024 version
The walls slanting in towards the middle so dramatically are the deal breaker for me.
I like your videos....always so much fun to watch, but why are they always on very well traveled roads???
Hey, what do you think of the 2 seconds EASY tent Quechua?
Great another video !!! Do you know Ampex tents? I loved my new Ampex tent 2p, and now the Ampex tents is on sale -45%. I think this tent is a great one that can be had. Could you to do a review about Ampex tents? I would like to see your analysis.
Appreciate your videos and honest reviews. As a person from Michigan, I was and possibly still will consider this tent for a one man packable budget hunting tent for Oct.-Dec. Do you think this will be a good choice? I would like to think yes, but the lack of ventilation sounds like it could be problematic due to the possibility of condensation. As my sleeping bag is down and already rated at 20°. I have been raided by bears just being curious before on some much more expensive tents, so I'm trying to be easier on the budget just in case.
Basically, I'm just looking for some input. Your input would be greatly appreciated.
Nice looking tent .
A little bit of an unfair review. I don't think there is anything wrong with this tent, it may not be the tent that's right for you in your weather conditions but it is perfectly viable for others. Bringing the right tool for the right job is the user's responsibility. Not the companies.
Naturehike does offer a 2 person tent with a more spacious design and more mesh, the Naturehike Mongar. It has everything you asked for; more spacious interior, more mesh, two doors, and a rain fly that pulls away from the body on both sides. It's made with the same materials, just different design. This seems like a much better shelter for your conditions/use.
Good for cooler temps but that head space is a bit of an issue.
Like u said, cool/slightly cold weather use. It seems like this has almost no ventilation.
Question: I have noticed that in a lot of your videos at Lone Wolf Mountain, you set your camps up on the dirt road(s). Even though it is private property, do you have any worries that some trespassers in vehicles may come whipping around a curve and run into your camps? How do you keep unwanted vehicles/people out? Just curious. Stay safe.
I think it would have a whole lot more space if it just used 2 diagonal hoop poles. How much weight did they save with that design compared to the space they lost & ending up with what is essentially a fairly weighty 1p tent.
you measured length at 75" although its advertised at 210cm or 83". curious if a long (78") sleeping pad would even fit....
Hi Luke! I personally don't care for that type of tent. Would much prefer a tent with plenty of airflow and that it would be much wider❤❤
For me (who runs cool) and where I live, all that lower fabric would be a useful option... I find lightweight tents tend to be all mesh and I can never get cozy even on summer nights where it still usually gets down to 5-10C. But the roof design is an automatic dealbreaker for me.