How It All Went Wrong: OVERKILL's The Walking Dead

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • OVERKILL's The Walking Dead crashed and burned pretty hard, but what, or who, was to blame?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 929

  • @ConnorShawVA
    @ConnorShawVA  5 років тому +491

    to people saying "why didn't you credit red archer live"... honestly i didn't know he made a video about this LMAO
    so if you wanna see more on the subject, here's his vid as well as E3kHatena's, which i did see. sorry!
    REDARCHERLIVE: ua-cam.com/video/B7jrYk95rMo/v-deo.html
    E3KHATENA: ua-cam.com/video/yhqhAMofXOA/v-deo.html

    • @RedArcherLive
      @RedArcherLive 5 років тому +22

      This was a brilliant video, nice work throughout!
      As for the link, much appreciated! I'll share yours in return :)

    • @zecaoalfredo4242
      @zecaoalfredo4242 5 років тому +3

      Great video, i hope overkill goes off ok and payday too.

    • @pepijn23
      @pepijn23 5 років тому +2

      The sad part about the Diesel engine and Overkill is that they aren't only ones using outdated technology. Bethesda still used an over ten year old engine from Morowwind for Fallout 4 and 76 and Fallout 76 bombed even harder than the walking dead and it wasn't just the game, several merchandise parts turned out to be scams such as the bag and Rum bottles.

    • @peste2574
      @peste2574 5 років тому

      redarcher video is shit lol

    • @TheIrishCrusader
      @TheIrishCrusader 5 років тому

      Very late on this topic

  • @thefool8750
    @thefool8750 5 років тому +1432

    Overkill’s successful projects:
    1. Payday
    2. Payday 2
    3. Payday 2
    4. Payday 2 DLC

    • @Lucios1995
      @Lucios1995 5 років тому +17

      Why did you list Payday 2 twice? I thought you were jokingly referring to RAID, but that wasn't successful

    • @raven75257
      @raven75257 5 років тому +51

      @Melanie L i quess being respectful for other people interests is too hard for "look how smart i am"

    • @BanHelsing
      @BanHelsing 5 років тому +2

      omg these people are so butthurt

    • @darreljohn5178
      @darreljohn5178 5 років тому +7

      @Melanie L I guess it's easier to insert an insult somewhere in a response to a passive comment, rather than being a decent human.
      But I guess that's too difficult for an entitled twat to understand.

    • @ShitOwl
      @ShitOwl 5 років тому

      @@darreljohn5178 attitude of a person who has never had sex (this guy)

  • @crazderskelly
    @crazderskelly 5 років тому +740

    Overkill's The Actual Dead

    • @borishillboy
      @borishillboy 5 років тому +6

      LOL Exactly

    • @heckstersjr
      @heckstersjr 5 років тому +9

      When OVERKILL is bankrupt
      OVERKILL'S Actually Dead

    • @nzarthal
      @nzarthal 4 роки тому

      Overkill's Dead

    • @screwmuckduck8905
      @screwmuckduck8905 4 роки тому +1

      Imagine if they misspelled or misconstrued the title and released a million copies that way lol gives you a glimpse of Overkill/Starbreeze’s lack of quality gaming. The finished product is like a stillborn deformed fetus hence the Valhalla engine mentioned here.

    • @unoriginal7076
      @unoriginal7076 3 роки тому

      I'm dead 😂😂

  • @E3kHatena
    @E3kHatena 5 років тому +323

    This is probably the definitive version of this story unless any new developments break out. Fantastic work, probably one of your absolute bests. Hilarious to see you actually used Ode to Greed during Bo's awful little rant, that was a spur of the moment pick during the stream and it's so awesome to see that come to life. Take it easy.

    • @LittleJobu
      @LittleJobu 5 років тому

      E3kHatena I love your channel!

  • @captainosu2094
    @captainosu2094 5 років тому +246

    The Walking Dead Curse: there's never been a good Walking Dead game. Even the Telltale series has been a rollercoaster in quality.

    • @mr.cypher604
      @mr.cypher604 5 років тому +80

      I will say that if you want a good Walking Dead game, it depends, of course, on where you stop your gameplay.
      ...but Season 1 was a masterpiece.

    • @TheNeXusCore9032
      @TheNeXusCore9032 5 років тому +24

      Not to mention, Telltale having gone bankrupt and Starbreeze in financial ruin (Starbreeze had issues before it seems like their Walking Dead game will be the nail for their coffin. OVERKILL's The Walking Dead has been removed from Steam due to Skybound terminating their contract with them, and the console versions will never be released).

    • @arkhe1n107
      @arkhe1n107 5 років тому +11

      Well, the first Telltale WD was GOTY so...

    • @luckyducky7819
      @luckyducky7819 5 років тому +34

      "There has never been a good Walking Dead game"
      Dude, Telltale game's first TWD game is considered a modern masterpiece. Even if they have a "rollercoaster quality", that's still at least ONE good The Walking Dead game!

    • @captainosu2094
      @captainosu2094 5 років тому +4

      @@luckyducky7819 There is a Walking Dead game where the first 25% is a masterpice. Yes. But the game as a whole isint not as great as the first season is. Which, as a whole, puts it more in the red.

  • @dat_koosh
    @dat_koosh 5 років тому +53

    *_It was never supposed work_*
    *-Starbreezee Howard*

  • @christianweems8757
    @christianweems8757 5 років тому +4

    I want a open world walking dead game, that feels like the division with less powerful weapons and you slowly pick a area to build and grow your group fighting against other players who have their own communities

  • @markmnz807
    @markmnz807 5 років тому +3

    I really wish Rockstar games make a TWD game or even an all zombie title, like RDR Undead Nightmare but a complete version with missions, side missions, open world and online.
    I was so sad when Overkill was cancelled, I mean I was so happy when they announced and the trailers were perfect, however they failed miserably.

  • @Barytyrannus
    @Barytyrannus 5 років тому +2

    As a zombie fanatic, seeing this game go in the direction it did was one of the biggest tragedies of recent memory. The hype caught me, gotta be honest. Ill be sure to lower my expectations from now on.

  • @TrickyJebus
    @TrickyJebus 5 років тому +1

    This sheds a whole new meaning and exception to this quote from some guy at nintendo "A delayed game may be great but a bad game is bad forever."

    • @jjbailey3223
      @jjbailey3223 5 років тому

      Etriuswimbleton. not completely true no mans sky dug itsself out of the grave and became good if not great, but 9 times out of 10 yeah they stay bad.

  • @bunnarchist8965
    @bunnarchist8965 5 років тому +17

    Extremely into the fact that you decided to do voices for each quote from the starbreeze employees when you could have just done your regular voice

  • @regularstan6212
    @regularstan6212 5 років тому +2

    Basically great vision, but no system/administration. Most companies have this problem.

  • @BalgaBear
    @BalgaBear 5 років тому +1

    Reminds me of what happened to Firefall, success that was so great, it killed the company because of idiotic ideas and greed.

  • @mrslimee2674
    @mrslimee2674 5 років тому +3

    The promos looked really cool. However when I saw actual game play I knew this was doomed. Especially when I saw Days Gone.

  • @hellokittygaming42069
    @hellokittygaming42069 4 роки тому

    Bain and wolf knowing when its best to cook more and when its time to leave.

  • @cursedhawkins1305
    @cursedhawkins1305 Рік тому

    Sadly, the situation that happened with Skybound pulling the IP out from under the dev team's feet, is literally what happened with the dev team that was in charge of the Friday the 13th game, while that lawsuit was active the dev team literally became frozen, no new content could be made for the game, whatever content that WAS released during that time likely was content already made and the dev team just had to get it out the door before they lost their chance forever because once that pre-made content was all dried up, that was it for the game nothing new was going to be coming in the future while that lawsuit was active and it resulted in the dev team abandoning the game because you can't just pretend to be working on a title and just sit there and do nothing all day. It likely played out the exact same way with Overkill's TWD, the dev team likely knew they were on a damn time limit to get as much content out that door before it was closed.

  • @KidKrazz81
    @KidKrazz81 5 років тому

    Awesome vid dude thank's for the tons of info, cleared a lot up and now I have a better understanding what happened.

  • @erikallen3804
    @erikallen3804 5 років тому +1

    Honestly, I hope Starbreeze and Overkill go bankrupt. They screwed over half their playerbase with an avalanche of lies. Half their playerbase has started to boycott them. Which means they are going to lose a ton of money. I play Hitman now. A game where the developers (IOI Games) actually give 2 craps about their console users. I’m done with Payday. The game might be entertaining, but the developers honestly need to be taught a lesson about respect. And letting them lose money is the perfect way to do it. If anyone here still plays Payday on either console or PC, stop playing it. Just because they support you PC users and screwed over console users doesn’t mean you should support them. Help us console users be heard.

  • @hezakighamorgan9974
    @hezakighamorgan9974 4 роки тому

    Overkill trading millions of dollars in stocks for a nonfunctional engine that was missing basic features:
    This is the worst trade deal perhaps in the history of trade deals... I'll buy all of it.
    Also, amazing vid my man! Keep doing it!

  • @thatoneguy9309
    @thatoneguy9309 5 років тому +1

    Press f for starbreeze

  • @kannonpq
    @kannonpq 5 років тому

    Wonderfully made video. I have to be honest. Your quality has waned a bit while you've been focussing on nothing but reviews, but this, this is a wonderfully made video, and I would have to wager one of, if not the, best you have made. Great job.

  • @PrimeDecanus
    @PrimeDecanus 5 років тому

    Starbreeze studio doesn't own dead by daylight anymore. They sold the Rights to Behaviour Interactive last year.

  • @chaoticairace6394
    @chaoticairace6394 5 років тому

    This more proves that some companies overwork their employees in hopes of keeping the fans happy. Sorta the same with netherrealm (If you look it up one employee got PTSD.) had they paid attention to, well... literally everyone's advice! They could have been fine and been making new games. They dug a hole for themselves they could never jump out of.

  • @nickie115
    @nickie115 5 років тому

    "Starbeeze didnt give the developers enough time to prepare a finished prodact"

  • @hungryhedgehog4201
    @hungryhedgehog4201 4 роки тому

    Why did starbreeze purchase the rights for Unreal 4? The Engine is free to use until you earn more than 1 million US Dollars and afterwards incurs a royalty fee of 5% on all subsequent sales. Also this is exactly the issues with companies being run by management, they have absolutely no idea about the actual work and jsut buy shit that sounds good to them.

  • @VOKZEL
    @VOKZEL 4 роки тому

    9:34 This footage of the Diesel engine looks very similar to the Source engine. That puts it into perspective of how old it is.

  • @biggy9619
    @biggy9619 4 роки тому

    I think there's so much potential for this! I really *really* hope it gets a revival it deserves.

    • @HyperShadic0
      @HyperShadic0 4 роки тому +1

      It's not being revived. The developers have stated that all development on the game has ceased and no more updates will be released. The game is no longer for sale on any digital storefronts, unless you count key resellers, and I'd imagine Skybound Entertainment has revoked The Walking Dead license for Overkill Software to continue developing the game.

  • @tuead112
    @tuead112 5 років тому

    *Hears Brothers: a tale of two sons
    *PTSD from watching it as a child and crying for five minutes straight because of the ending

  • @Revolution-yn8cm
    @Revolution-yn8cm 5 років тому

    Is it weird that everything gaming related that has touched walking dead has died.

  • @Enragedlime
    @Enragedlime 5 років тому

    the only way besides shady key resellers is already owning it if you want to play it? damn. *distant sounds of rum bottles uncorking and sea shanties being sung poorly*

  • @SonicSonedit
    @SonicSonedit 5 років тому

    I hope that someday there will be actual State Of Decay 1 - like Walking Dead game.

  • @herald1953
    @herald1953 4 роки тому

    *"Starbreeze spends fortune on unusable engine"*

  • @rayum486
    @rayum486 4 роки тому

    I only get madder and madder every time I watch this video...

  • @sparkzy6
    @sparkzy6 4 роки тому

    Man I would have loved a game like this

  • @jgn
    @jgn 5 років тому +3

    OK's The Walking Dead is a worse version of Dying Light/Dying Light 2 tbh

    • @TheHeavyshadow
      @TheHeavyshadow 5 років тому +2

      Not even that. Dying Light has a whole parcour-system that OTWD lacks. It's like a worse Dead Island, and that game is about 8 years old.

    • @liquifiediceinabottle8062
      @liquifiediceinabottle8062 5 років тому +2

      @RoughShadow And Dead Island was actually good

    • @jgn
      @jgn 5 років тому

      @Raven Lynx I'm not talking shit about Dying Light.
      OKTWD wanted to be like Dying Light but failed terribly.

  • @woolfieMcP
    @woolfieMcP 5 років тому

    when the game mirrors the game studio's current situation

  • @andreasottohansen7338
    @andreasottohansen7338 5 років тому +2

    Imagine how happy this video would have been if it had about EA instead of Starbreeze/Overkill.

  • @IBJEWED
    @IBJEWED 4 роки тому

    Oh well back to payday 2 every starbreeze employee

  • @AdrianCuyubambaDiaz
    @AdrianCuyubambaDiaz 5 років тому

    Why do companies keep doing that??? Rushing games NEVER ends up well. I’d rather wait 10 years for the game to be developed than having a trashy game released early

  • @darthlaser4597
    @darthlaser4597 4 роки тому +1

    I hope they get someone that will understand the gold mine they’re sitting on with payday and use it and finally make payday 3

    • @darthlaser4597
      @darthlaser4597 4 роки тому

      Or they finally die out and someone like valve scoops up pd and makes pd3

    • @Kickbuttdooode
      @Kickbuttdooode Рік тому

      Lol funny reading this now

  • @Quackily
    @Quackily 5 років тому

    Isn't it backward that Overkill owned Starbreeze tho? I've readed an article about an interview saying Starbreeze is actually Overkill but with another name

  • @guestyguest2534
    @guestyguest2534 5 років тому +1

    This is the first time I've seen gameplay of this game, wow.
    And yes, I do play a lot of payday 2

  • @g80gzt
    @g80gzt 5 років тому

    it seems like a neat game.
    but.
    the sheer hype, promised features, and poor management that we knew...
    that killed it to death.
    if it just came out, no pre-hype or trailers before release... it'd probably have fared immensely better. maybe even a huge success.
    but sadly, reviews were put on the gallows of standards that they hung themselves from.

  • @roseyoshino
    @roseyoshino 5 років тому

    Press F to use a medic bag.

  • @supercj12
    @supercj12 5 років тому

    Could have just made another good Payday 2 heist map, and made bank, now they need their own payday.

  • @brandonhascup2769
    @brandonhascup2769 5 років тому

    I for one liked survival instinct and miss it some days!

  • @gamerzplayerz5780
    @gamerzplayerz5780 5 років тому +2

    He's basically EA personified. Is what you're saying.

  • @mr.complainer6951
    @mr.complainer6951 5 років тому

    If they do go bankrupt. Hopefully some company will buy the Payday license and continue the series from there... hopefully

  • @teodorcornea7014
    @teodorcornea7014 5 років тому +2

    Starbreeze fell like a pack of stale potato chips

  • @enricob15
    @enricob15 5 років тому

    i'm sorry for ovk/starbreeze :(

  • @titanderp
    @titanderp 4 роки тому

    7:57 "Source: *OVERHILL* Software"

  • @GunnerSentinel
    @GunnerSentinel 5 років тому

    You're a real eugene

  • @Gurchen
    @Gurchen 5 років тому

    I'll be honest, most of this video is accurate but I bought the $30 version of the game and I've played it about 30 hours with a friend. The game was definitely unpolished but it got more flack than it deserved. People jumped on the hate train which is really a shame.
    The game could have been.. well good, a year down the line. PayDay2 was also pretty terrible in the beginning but it was optimized over the years and became one of my favourite games.

  • @UnwrittenGamingftn
    @UnwrittenGamingftn 4 роки тому

    What's been going on now? Haven't they restarted development on Payday 2? (With the christmas update and all)
    \

  • @Xhawk777
    @Xhawk777 5 років тому +1

    You’ve got nice hair!

  • @technimechanical
    @technimechanical 5 років тому

    Wait has this game come out already!?!?!?

  • @yoshz5389
    @yoshz5389 5 років тому +1

    Never make a walking dead game

  • @chuckmangione4747
    @chuckmangione4747 5 років тому

    Shows and movies should not be converted into video games and vice versa. It always ends up to be garbage.

  • @detergent6477
    @detergent6477 4 роки тому

    Nice editing

  • @adamarzo559
    @adamarzo559 5 років тому

    I really wanted to love Payday 2(I know this video isn't about that), but damn did OVERKILL or whoever the fuck made it sell out hard as fuck. I am almost positive in Payday 1 the developers said that they'd never have paid DLC....then payday 2 came out.....all I see is stacks of DLC on the store page. Won't even consider playing the game against because of it.
    The studio sold out, no surprise they're going bankrupt.

  • @loltage9468
    @loltage9468 5 років тому

    So is there still going to be a payday 3?

  • @C4Fuu
    @C4Fuu 5 років тому

    Well with Psychonauts 2 coming out this year, it could bring back some finance stability to Starbreeze since they will be publishing the game
    For Overkill however, it's still questionable

    • @Benolke552
      @Benolke552 5 років тому

      Starbreeze sold back publishing rights to Psychonauts 2 though.

  • @monkeyballs188
    @monkeyballs188 4 роки тому

    mabye now that they have some base knowledge on ue4 they might use it for future games succesfully i think

  • @ConnorShawVA
    @ConnorShawVA  5 років тому +685

    but when are you going to play payday 3??

  • @Maro-gp3vf
    @Maro-gp3vf 5 років тому +640

    Connor: You may be asking yourself, why on earth would the developers continue to work on an engine that had long been needed to be replaced?
    Everyone else: *looks at bethesda studios*

    • @SummMeister
      @SummMeister 5 років тому +16

      Unknown Catty ehh to be fair it had gotten overhauled multiple times and most bugs in Bethesda’s games aren’t even the engine’s fault

    • @Maro-gp3vf
      @Maro-gp3vf 5 років тому +32

      @@SummMeister yeah true, but many others performance problems are because of the creation engine that Bethesda uses, and if by ''overhaul'' you mean ''slap in a render to have better graphics and working with Nvidia to have better lights, but not adding any kind of processor to compensate for it'' then yeah, they overhauled it.

    • @VFuzball
      @VFuzball 5 років тому +1

      Telltale tool

    • @Maro-gp3vf
      @Maro-gp3vf 5 років тому +5

      @@VFuzball The sad part is, they're never going to use it again

    • @Maro-gp3vf
      @Maro-gp3vf 5 років тому +7

      ​@RadTheLad If the engine you're trying to use can handle what you're trying to do, then optimization can be done by the engine alone really, but if you're trying to pull a pubg and the engine cannot handle it alone, then the ''how much one knows about optimization'' becomes really important.

  • @cyboygaming1925
    @cyboygaming1925 5 років тому +413

    Starbreeze is down!
    *STARBREEZE WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY*

  • @Pol0ski
    @Pol0ski 5 років тому +560

    It's a sad story, nobody wants a game to be bad, both devs and consumers. I hope they somehow manage to recover, and if not, well, I'll still be grateful they made Payday.

    • @Camo-un8ee
      @Camo-un8ee 5 років тому +1

      I agree, well spoken

    • @celestials6492
      @celestials6492 5 років тому +5

      i was so hyped when watching the cgi trailers, i remember everyone else commenting in hype as well. it’s really disappointing as a twd fan that this is how the game turned out to be.

    • @elianwilliams
      @elianwilliams 5 років тому +1

      I feel if they can survive until Payday 3 they have a chance, but if they fold before then or Payday 3 flops they’re done

    • @Lakita2880
      @Lakita2880 4 роки тому +5

      Well, here we are, PD3 confirmed, and development on PD2 resumed! Things are looking good again!

    • @ninj0muftah116
      @ninj0muftah116 4 роки тому

      Yea I agree

  • @ClaytorYurnero
    @ClaytorYurnero 5 років тому +179

    How in the hell did they get conned into buying a non-functional 'engine' like that?

    • @ducreat
      @ducreat 5 років тому +35

      The CEO likes its VR potential. He wants the VR market.

    • @ikamusejohnson
      @ikamusejohnson 5 років тому +4

      Is there more info about that "engine" tho?

    • @Graknorke
      @Graknorke 5 років тому +12

      Management makes decisions that workers have to deal with. Comparable things happen in every industry, it's just a problem with the disconnect between power and work done.

    • @ADOBY_RTV
      @ADOBY_RTV 5 років тому +5

      Hahahahah well iraq bought a bunch of golf ball detectors for 100 billion us dollars and used it in militaryto detect explosives .......i am iraqian and this is 100% a true story

    • @Graknorke
      @Graknorke 5 років тому +1

      @@ADOBY_RTV
      Did they work?

  • @DutchRebel1942
    @DutchRebel1942 5 років тому +79

    Every company that works on Walking Dead games go bankrupt.

    • @sneakysnake7695
      @sneakysnake7695 5 років тому +12

      Ironic how all those studios "Die"

    • @LittleDreamer1412
      @LittleDreamer1412 4 роки тому

      Maybe it's the name 😂

    • @swaggerdagger8976
      @swaggerdagger8976 4 роки тому +7

      The Escapists had a Walking Dead game and the dev studio is just fine.

    • @exodust3114
      @exodust3114 4 роки тому +1

      As of now a walking dead vr game has been released and behind the wheel skydance productions or skydance media and it’s just amazing how the game is and so much time an effort was put into a worth while game, if you own a headset I would suggest checking his game out

    • @dongstrongly2685
      @dongstrongly2685 4 роки тому +2

      @@exodust3114 yes! Saints and sinners is actually the best thing to ever come out of the walking dead universe. Negan in Tekken is a close second.

  • @rikingg5629
    @rikingg5629 5 років тому +98

    To me they should tie only PayDay games to the genre, Raid and TWD felt too similar if not even worse. They should branch out to other genres, even if difficult for the company, but that could save them.

    • @ducreat
      @ducreat 5 років тому

      I don't think they can code the other games. It's beyond their power.

    • @rikingg5629
      @rikingg5629 5 років тому +8

      @@ducreat well I mean, they are game developers, I don't understand what their limit could be other than "this company specializes in this type of game therefore they are force to produced only that"

    • @boxylemons7961
      @boxylemons7961 5 років тому +1

      They really seem unable to make any game that isn't fucking payday. that's probably the biggest problem in the company. It's a complete one hit wonder thing.

    • @wargames43
      @wargames43 5 років тому

      They need to fully adopt Unreal Engine 4 and start on pay day 3 and build on what made pay day 2 great by asking the community
      I mean i enjoy pay day 2 ALOT and i really want a sequel to payday 2

    • @garfellow5507
      @garfellow5507 4 роки тому

      Too late. They're making payday 3 and supporting payday 2 again in order to keep them afloat

  • @constitution7167
    @constitution7167 5 років тому +46

    Payday: The Heist was a very popular game
    Let’s make a sequel
    Payday 2 was a huge success and made tons of money
    Let’s just make a new game that does not collaborate with our huge successors instead of trying to make a third Payday with a different engine to see how popular it would be so if we make different games that wouldn’t be able to handle the older engines we will be use to a new engine.

    • @markulyssestabasan3064
      @markulyssestabasan3064 4 роки тому

      Honestly if Starbreeze had made Payday 3 in place of Overkill's TWD at that time, we would probably get an even more broken Payday 3 with 22 online players.

    • @iicustodianlaw
      @iicustodianlaw 3 роки тому

      @@markulyssestabasan3064 i am glad overkill used UE4 for payday 3

  • @TheNeXusCore9032
    @TheNeXusCore9032 5 років тому +182

    "Your opinion, my choice." ~ Bo Andersson

    • @gigagleb9842
      @gigagleb9842 5 років тому +14

      TheForgery “Your head, my kick”
      I am not sorry

    • @Gun_Metal_Grey
      @Gun_Metal_Grey 5 років тому +13

      "Get Fucked" ~ Driver Nep.... I mean -> Bo Andersson

    • @austinturner8373
      @austinturner8373 5 років тому +3

      imagine seeing you here

    • @Synthc4t
      @Synthc4t 4 роки тому +1

      Oh, hey Forge!

  • @02998L
    @02998L 5 років тому +74

    this all reads and sounds like an episode of defunctland
    good for the video quality and entertainment value, bad for starbreeze as a whole

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids 5 років тому +118

    It's sad to think I may never see a Payday 3 :( I fell out of love with Payday 2 after some changes that did not sit well with me and just never managed to fall back in love since. I was hoping a third game might renew that passion.

    • @KainRazielMT
      @KainRazielMT 5 років тому +8

      It's fucking over. Get that through your skulls.
      AND EVEN IF IT WASN'T OVER....even if 99% of the original creators of Payday 2 hadn't left the company, even if the company wouldn't be bankrupt, do you seriously not care about Bo's behaviour and the upper managements' total cluelessness and uncooperative behaviour towards their developers, after you've seen this video?
      Why do you think changes were made that did not sit well with you? Upper management saw what a hit the game was, and they wanted to cash in from dimwitted hardcore fans - who would iterally buy anything with the Payday icon on it - and then shat out tens of DLCs, all of which containing mediocre content at best. And let's not get into "Mr. YourOpinionMyChoice" there.
      They wanted to milk the game for all of its worth, and they still managed to fucked up by making investments none of them actually thought through, or consulted with the devs.
      Does nothing matter to you as long as you can have some cheap fun with an overmade third installment? Do you have any idea how taxing it would be for the people's mental health working there, especially after this whole fiasco the devs went through with this failed game? And what would be the end result for them? Bend over backwards so that these asshole bosses and braindead upper management can stay afloat and rack in the big bucks?
      I work at such an environment. I experience this disorganization, general lack of care, apathy, cluelessness and god complex of managers and all the shit you can imagine, yet we get the shit beaten out of us day to day for stuff completely out of our control. It's not fun.
      Let the remaining devs of this piece of shit company go and find jobs somewhere else - where they may have a VEEEEEEERY SMALL chance that it wond't turn out to be such a toxic place to work.

    • @Lakita2880
      @Lakita2880 5 років тому +2

      Damn didn't expect to see you here man!

    • @thechosenundead2718
      @thechosenundead2718 5 років тому +14

      @@KainRazielMT Lmao you're such a fucking sperg

    • @SeriousJB
      @SeriousJB 4 роки тому +1

      If they made the game like Payday TH it would renew it for me too. I still dont get how one game could be so good and the other so crap

    • @thetrashmann8140
      @thetrashmann8140 3 роки тому +1

      They've managed to persuade investors to give them 250 million dollars to finish Payday 3 and if that fails Strabreeze/OVERKILL are fucked to say the least

  • @johnwhalley8270
    @johnwhalley8270 5 років тому +146

    Starbreeze is in a pickle, gang!

  • @po801_4
    @po801_4 5 років тому +76

    They should have just use the Unreal engine before the development of the game took off. The engine is cheap, easy to use, works really well, looks really good.

    • @dp-2835
      @dp-2835 5 років тому +1

      That engine is a bitch to run

    • @z1u512
      @z1u512 4 роки тому +2

      RadTheLad but it already proved it’s capable of running good looking games with little impact on performance so I guess that’s what he meant

    • @iicustodianlaw
      @iicustodianlaw 3 роки тому

      Or use unity

  • @CsubAzUrmedve
    @CsubAzUrmedve 5 років тому +40

    Every big budget but bad game has a sad story behind it. Just look at Metal Gear Survive.
    Most of the time I can't blame the developers especially knowing what happened behind the scenes. They tried to make it work but there is always at least one g̶r̶e̶e̶d̶y̶ ̶a̶s̶s̶h̶o̶l̶e̶ big dreamer behind everything, risking their own and with it other people's job.
    Great job by the way. Looking forward to see more How It All Went Wrong.

  • @mycatsnameisellaandshesver7393
    @mycatsnameisellaandshesver7393 5 років тому +62

    Connor, I love your previous content and all. But i'm gonna say it.
    This is your best video yet. This will establish you as a true content creator instead of just "that payday 2 dude and oh yeah he does raid". Its so well published and honestly, it was literally FUN to watch. When you have a 10 viewer to like ratio thats saying something. Connor, my guy, I love this video. Good job.

  • @Kytharo
    @Kytharo 5 років тому +88

    So payday 3 isnt gonna happen?

    • @theblackbaron4119
      @theblackbaron4119 5 років тому +23

      I hope it's not going to be made. So they can stop raping that dead horse for money...

    • @LittleJobu
      @LittleJobu 5 років тому +19

      RequiemOfAsh unless another developer buys the rights, it sounds like it is highly unlikely at this point

    • @theblackbaron4119
      @theblackbaron4119 5 років тому +13

      @@LittleJobu yeah, just let it all die. After what they pulled, not a single one of them deserves to get more money out of lisencing from the payday IP. The real big bank Heist has been pulled on their fans with abusing the good will and support of them. While still not wanting to put in effort or improve on it for years. Only after over 5 years the desync was sort of "fixed" well obviously not really. But it was no longer do abhorrent as it used to be.

    • @erikallen3804
      @erikallen3804 5 років тому +8

      I’ll buy Payday 3 if that stupid nuke isn’t on the title. Hint, I’m hoping Payday will switch ownership.

    • @maihosalat
      @maihosalat 5 років тому +2

      The Black Baron tbh i just want a remade payday 2 with a new engine and less bugs

  • @itsasecrettoeverybody
    @itsasecrettoeverybody 3 роки тому +12

    Ulf is such a nice guy, he answered me several times on twitter when I asked game dev related things. I don't know how he can have such an asshole brother. I think Ulf saw the shit coming when he leave overkill. Hope he can make success with GTFO keeping the small studio as he clearly enjoys being an indie developer.

  • @gratuitouslurking8610
    @gratuitouslurking8610 5 років тому +25

    Well, at least give hope for Wolf and GTFO?
    EDIT: 6:18 I dunno, ask Bethesda. They've used the same coding rockbed with lego blocks glued on their sides to it since Morrowind.

    • @KainRazielMT
      @KainRazielMT 5 років тому +1

      Even if the game does release, I won't give my money to such a douchebag as Bo. By doing so, I would encourage his unrealistic expectations, uncooperativeness and generally asshole behaviour towards his crew.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 5 років тому +1

      @@KainRazielMT Far as I'm aware of, it's just Urf on GTFO. Bo's nowhere to be seen, and the world is probably better for it.

    • @hackerman5207
      @hackerman5207 5 років тому +1

      @@KainRazielMT you mechs might have copper wiring to reroute your fear of pain but I've got nerves of steel.

    • @ProfessorBalth
      @ProfessorBalth 4 роки тому +1

      The difference between Overkill using the Diesel engine and Bethesda using the creation engine is that Overkill actually has software engineers who are actually capable of utilizing an engine.

  • @nohandlesplease
    @nohandlesplease 5 років тому +15

    Starbreeze: So your telling me this Valhalla engine can run VR?
    Seller: That's right
    Starbreeze: Can it do anything else?
    Seller: *Nervous chuckling*
    Starbreeze: Eh nevermind, we'll take it.

  • @bamboosporks
    @bamboosporks 5 років тому +28

    (stands up and walks to the corner)
    "Bo is an asshole!" -Connor Shaw, 2019
    Classic.

  • @bbdanny
    @bbdanny 5 років тому +18

    Shigeru Miyamoto: A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.

    • @dive_bomb3r
      @dive_bomb3r 5 років тому +5

      Isn't so simple when you have investors to think of and "money people" breathing down your neck.

    • @bbdanny
      @bbdanny 5 років тому +2

      @@dive_bomb3r true but everyone should aknowledge it

    • @michaelanderson1702
      @michaelanderson1702 5 років тому +1

      Overkill's TWD was an even worse case, as it was both delayed *and* rushed.

    • @generalatom2175
      @generalatom2175 4 роки тому +2

      bbdanny *duke nukem forever has entered the chat*

  • @bobthebox2993
    @bobthebox2993 5 років тому +7

    Can't believe that after a whole video, the words that stuck the most with me were "dead by daylight is still maintaining a solid following and frequent updates"

  • @blonded0532
    @blonded0532 5 років тому +5

    All I want is a dying light style open world walking dead game based on the show that has actual choices and consequences, as well as rpg style weapon and armor customization. It could have its own story or be set in negan war and you choose which of the major settlements you come from, be it Alexandria, he hilltop, the kingdom, of even sanctuary if you want to play as a bad guy and change the canon outcome of the war, or take negan out from the inside and defect to the militia. I know it’ll never happen, but it’s all I want.

  • @kratosgow342
    @kratosgow342 5 років тому +38

    What is that laptop that you threw in that dumpster?

    • @ConnorShawVA
      @ConnorShawVA  5 років тому +57

      trash

    • @bunga4747
      @bunga4747 5 років тому +14

      "Know your place trash"-. Flithy Frank

    • @OWNWick
      @OWNWick 5 років тому +1

      His Super Laptop 9000

    • @dinocayden
      @dinocayden 5 років тому +1

      A Lenovo laptop

    • @mafia2boy33
      @mafia2boy33 5 років тому +1

      A shitty laptop that no one should need

  • @dr.chaimsaw7841
    @dr.chaimsaw7841 5 років тому +6

    You would think Robert Kirkman would try to find a triple A developer to make a game for him

  • @SLKibara
    @SLKibara 5 років тому +40

    Rest in peace Starbreeze.

  • @yumi9703
    @yumi9703 5 років тому +7

    Their motto should be
    "I need a medic bag"

  • @danedewberry
    @danedewberry 5 років тому +5

    Us DBD kiddos are lucky the DBD division split off early. I hope they recover.

  • @aapovaananen1634
    @aapovaananen1634 5 років тому +44

    I just hoped that the payday serries could have gone for q little longer

    • @221Prohunter
      @221Prohunter 5 років тому +1

      It still can, and probably will.

    • @aapovaananen1634
      @aapovaananen1634 5 років тому +1

      @@221Prohunter well there are lots of custom maps

    • @Lucios1995
      @Lucios1995 5 років тому +1

      @@aapovaananen1634 There's custom maps?!?

    • @DannyB1111
      @DannyB1111 5 років тому +1

      taitsuke The IP will almost definitely get picked up by a major studio. Payday 2 sold really well, and there is no reason for Ubi or EA or Epic etc to pick it up. Payday 3 is almost guaranteed, the question is just if it’ll be any good.

  • @regularstan6212
    @regularstan6212 5 років тому +7

    Now I wish LucasArts would cancel EA contract!!

  • @ЯАнсиу
    @ЯАнсиу 5 років тому +5

    “Eh it’s ok...”
    *Loads up Dying Light*

  • @readmarx420
    @readmarx420 5 років тому +4

    Ironically payday gave them a hell of a payday. After watching this video I'm under the impression that we're lucky that it was as good as it was. Still wont be playing it lol

  • @ANGELM73350
    @ANGELM73350 5 років тому +3

    Oh man this is a sad video
    I didn't know about all this fuckery going on behind OTWD, and i doubt most people do, the devs are probably the ones getting all the flak and i feel sorry for them
    I really hope stuff can get back on feet, Payday 2 is still my most played game on Steam and i want the adventure to continue, but even then, how good could Payday 3 be now that the original team is scattered?
    I don't know where this is going, but hey, "At least we stole the show"

  • @CriticalRoleHighlights
    @CriticalRoleHighlights 5 років тому +1

    OVERKILL's The Walking Dead is pretty much Payday 2 but with different assets and I got bored of Payday 2 after a week.

  • @TheBroGamer14082
    @TheBroGamer14082 5 років тому +5

    Could starbreeze's decline be the origin story of Wolf?

  • @TinkyTheDuck
    @TinkyTheDuck 5 років тому +5

    I saw the “the walking dead” and thought you were talking about telltales walking dead, I was about to lose my shit

  • @DonniePCgames
    @DonniePCgames 5 років тому +2

    Want to do something for consumers? Consider doing a video about how Skybound ripped off tens of thousands of PC gamers who bought this game. Overkill announced in June they finished season two and have a 7th playable character available with a full list of bug fixes. We can't get the content we paid for because of Skybound. Regardless of your opinion of the game, consumers got screwed big time here.