Let’s Build A Teardrop * Step-By-Step * - Part 7 (How to Install FILON)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- If you would like the plans for the Teardrop Trailer, link is below! www.paypal.me/...
How to install Filon. This will be a Step-By-Step tutorial on how to build your very own teardrop. A Simple backyard build, a project you will be proud of! We will be covering the bottom and outside of the teardrop with Filon. This will be a lot of fun… hope you stick around and enjoy the process!
This is Part 7 of my teardrop trailer project - Do It Yourself - video. Starting from the ground up of a 4 x 8 camp trailer. This is a Work-In-Progress, thank you for watching!
If you would like to drop me a letter or send something for review, my information is below:
batman97741@gmail.com
A. Bateman
PO BOX 499
Madras, Oregon 97741
Cheers!
The plans are no longer available for free. To learn how you can get a set of drawings to build your own teardrop, click this link: ua-cam.com/video/4mv3ZzRZJCM/v-deo.html
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you're link is to a private video...
Dang... thought I updated all of them. Try this one, ua-cam.com/video/_yRy_fSPEMc/v-deo.html
@@chadmcdowell5582 I changed these things like three times!! UA-cam is killin me! LOL! Try this one... ua-cam.com/video/_yRy_fSPEMc/v-deo.html
This is the only video on youtube ive found on installing filon. Its so expensive its nerve racking doing filon without experience and now youve created a resource for other novice camper builders and diy'ers, so thank you for that !
Filon is not only expensive but the gluing process makes it impossible to reposition: double nerve racking!
Thank you Brent!
Such a superior way to waterproof the underside IMO, glad you liked the idea. Great job
A little more expensive, but should outlast my time on Earth! :)
Rofl, that it will
This is my first attempt at installing Filon... a very simple and easy process! The results are fantastic! Hope you agree!
Building my own project, I did a lot of research on UA-cam on the Filon gluing process and I never found one until today: thank you so much Al for that important video! I looking forward to seeing the gluing process of the front, top and back of the trailer in one shot!.
Too bad, they don't sell that glue red tinted: easier to monitor full coverage.
Thank you!! I'll be a little more nervous when it comes to gluing the top, but I'll do a lot of practice runs before I actually spray that glue! And I agree... wish it was tinted red like your was, would be so much easier to see!
@@OregonBatman Looking great!!! They do sell red tinted glue. The easiest place to get it is from All-Rite the stabond 440 should work.
Great job you make it look easy. 👍🏾
nice teamwork with your neighbor in this video!
Very good work as you have used to us Alberto, we follow you carefully, greetings.
You've pretty much taken the fear away from me regarding filon! I might snag a few scraps from someone and see how I do with it. Looks exactly like how formica is attached to the countertops and tables we built. As always, GREAT WORK and loving your build so far! We're way behind you!
Thank you Eli! Yes!! Exactly like how formica is attached! It was a mystery how to install it until I started... :) You will have no problem! Thanks Eli, looking forward to seeing what you do next!
The top challenge will be to glue the Filon on the front, top and rear of the trailer in one shot, with almost no possibility to reposition the Filon if the gluing didn't start straight.
Good luck Al for that next crucial step!
I have a plan!! :) Just have to execute! LOL! Only get one shot!
Well done OBM. Looks like you have some experience at laminates. Perfect result from this side of the camera. Be safe and thanks for sharing.
Thank ya K!
عالی بود very good👍
Thank you!
I know I got the plans from you but a list of everything needed to buy would be awesome
I’ll see what I can work up...
Thank you
Awesome. Thanks. Getting ready to put Filon on my class c over cab rebuild. Also looking to see if I can glue straight to foam on bottom part. Maybe need a different glue.
Thanks Jorge! I think you will need a different glue... this glue might not work with the foam. You can try a sample piece and see if it works.
I wonder if this can be done neatly using contact adhesive like evostik? I remember using some contact adhesive that was spreadable like butter but I'm not sure what it was called.
I used the original evostik years ago laminating bar countertop's and it worked just fine. Good video OreganBatman 👍
This IS a contact adhesive.
@@MikeAG333 Yes Mike, I was referring to using a particular brand that is easily obtainable here, wondering if it would work as Good.
The buttery stuff was not stringy, easily spread and a treat to use; spreadable with less mess.
We have the common Evo stick here, the buttery stuff I have not seen for years.
I have just started watching this series of videos, as I am interested in building a teardrop, but…….Who is your helper that keeps popping in, and where can I get one?
Great videos, thank you.
LOL!!! Thanks Mark! Yes, my helper was the best! Always a good idea to have a neighbor around to help out! :) My buddy Jack... the best.
I m getting ready to do this to the outside wall on a 13' slide out. Great video. ... I'm still trying to figure out do I put the luan on the ground, glue the filon to it or do I attach the luan to the slide out and attempt to glue it while it is vertical... If I glue it to the luan before attaching it to the slide out, I'm not sure how to attach it as I don't want screw or nail holes in it.
I would install the Luan to the slide out first, then with the help of one or two people, install filon. I would start at top and spray glue across and about 12" down. Stick filon at top first, then while friends hold the filon away from slide out, finish spraying the glue. While they hold the filon away, start at top and roll your way down. Be careful and not let the filon touch before you are ready!! IF YOU DO, don't panic... have a couple spray bottles of acetone ready, you can spray behind filon and gently peel it back... all will be well. :) Hope that helps!
Will that Helmiprene glue work for attaching filon to styrofoam? Where did you get it. Thanks
Check out Helmitin website for the foam bonding spray adhesive: helmitin.com/product-category/industries/foam-bonding/
Hope that helps, al
how much does the price for a van cost, only for all materials in this particular version? Once again I want to thank you for your videos, you are the best professional in the wash business.
Стоимость моей сборки составила около 6800 долларов США. Большое спасибо за просмотр!
@@OregonBatman спасибо за ответ👌👍
What was the adhesive that you used?
The product I use is called Helmiprene 4545, a spray on application made by Helmitin. They also make a product for roll on application as well... Helmiprene 4535. Hope that helps!
Was wondering...I have seen teardrop floors built like yours,but something I thought that was neat in some of them was that a router was used to create channels for the wiring of the unit for the trailer lights and the interior lighting...Your thoughts??
Just trying to keep it simple really for the first timers :) Running conduit under floor is what I would use. All wiring running through from front to rear.
Hi Al, my husband and I ordered your plans and we have purchased supplies to start our build. One of my previous questions to you was how much your camper weighs and you said 1,000lbs. I want to pull mine behind a Prius so I'm trying to build as light weight as possible yet have a well constructed camper. We are wondering how much of the 1,000 lbs does your trailer by itself weigh? We are using a harbor freight trailer (all original) which weighs 250lbs so we are wondering if we are starting with less weight (than yours) at the git go. If you have ideas on how we might use your plans yet shave off some weight please let us know. Thanks so much!
Oh yeah... you will come in several hundred pounds lighter than mine. My trailer frame was built using 3/16" steel VERY HEAVY! Plus the axle weighed in close to 100 pounds. You will probably come in at around 750 lbs or slightly more, but not anywhere near mine! :) If I had to guess, my frame and axle was around 400+ lbs. Hope that helps, al
@@OregonBatman Just what we needed to know. We have appreciated your prompt responses. they've been so helpful.
@@microgreensgrower3946 Absolutely, Happy Building!
Will the contact glue put up with varying weather? Hot sun to cold winter.
Nice video.
Hi Marty Q... I actually put together a video answering that question, will post that Wednesday evening. In short, yes... it holds up very well!
I enjoy the simplicity of your video and the fact you share information and product name. But unfortunately the company you used for your filon and glue cannot ship the glue you used. I have been doing research to find an alternative to the HIGH $$ glues out there and I was so happy to see that the glue you were recommended was affordable. #M products are double what you paid. I also found during my research that regular Contact Cement will bond the Filon, it will not hold up to the various temperature changes for a normal RV, become brittle and looses holding strength. So if you happen to know of another product to use that would be great. Thanks.
Thank you Jhinglouis Blea! Sorry to hear the glue can't be shipped... There is a product called Titebond3.5-gal. Greenchoice Advanced Polymer Adhesive and it is about $140 for 3.5 gallons (about $48 gal). It is meant for FRP panels so should work. Not sprayed... it is troweled on. Do a search to see if that product can be shipped to you, there is no hazmat or special shipping to deal with. Hope that helps! Thank you for stopping by and watching the video! Chow!
Can filing glue be used on foam?
There is a special type of filon glue especially made for foam applications. This particulart product will not work for foam. Check out Helmitin's products: Helmeprene 4510 helmitin.com/product/helmiprene-nf-4510/
Im installing AZDEL onboard under filing replacing paperboard and I'm curious if the adhesive you are using would gle filing to FRP AZDEL?
Great question Patriots! I would suggest you check out Helmitin's website for the product you need. The adhesive that I used is for Filon to wood, but they make several different types to attach to different materials. Here is the link: helmitin.com/products/
Can you give us a link for the glue you used? Thank you!
The glue I used is a product from Helimitin called Helmiprene 4545. If you check out their website they also make this glue for a roll on application as well. Check out the products page helmitin.com hope that helps, and thanks for stopping by!!
@@OregonBatman Thanks so much!
@@taunifran3513 You are most welcome!
Which Helmiprene glue did you use? There are so many.
Helmiprene 4545. If you check out their website they also make this glue for a roll on application as well (4535). Check out the products page helmitin.com hope that helps!
Loving this build be Scottish what is filos.
Filon is a fiber glass sheet with gelcoat... about 1/16" thick
Is that FILON similar to FORMICA ? Is it a kind of Formica, Mr.Albert ? I looked it up in the dictionary and apparently I didn't find it. After glued both sides you can't remoce any more, isn't it ? Please say hello to Jack! Vice job,as always !
Hello Carlos! Formica is a paper product and Filon is a fiberglass product. Very different materials. They are similarly installed the same, and yes, once it is glued ind in place, you cannot remove it! Thanks Carlos! I will let Jack know you say hello! :)
ok,Mr.Albert...thank you for the explanation! It has a good finishing...and fiberglass is easy to be repaired if damaged! take care!
That’s true! Much easier to repair! Glad you stopped by Carlos, always good to hear from you!
I'm anxious to know 2 years later how did your glue hold up? I'm rebuilding a wall on my camper and I'm nervous to use anything other than stabond but if this worked well I'll jump ship!
Well... I am happy to report that everything is still solid. The glue is pretty good, but I hear Stabond is the good stuff to use! At least for the price, the glue I used worked great (so far!) :)
Awesome thanks for the update!!! I've talked to a couple local dealers and I'm gonna use your method but I'm going with 3m 90 spray on. The wall I'm building is going to have bolts at a 4"spread along the sides and top so delam isn't a huge concern anymore. Thx again for the update and the video!!! Helped me a ton!
Where did you get your doors from please?
Purchased the doors from Vintage Technologies... great people!
Do you happen to remember how much filon you ordered and shipping weight. I found on recpro they say
.1760 sq ft but 15 lbs for 10 ft seems low or is that accurate?
Sounds about right... I picked up 20' at the store and I figured it weighed about 30 lbs
Can you send me the list of materials needed please and also how much are the plans thanks Bryan
Link for the plans: www.paypal.me/OregonBatman97741/15
No material list
How thick is the Filon and where did you buy it? thanks for the info
Hi Robert! The filon is close to 1/16" thick and can take a nice bend. I purchased my filon at Affordable RVing 15555 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Milwaukie, OR 97267 (503) 659-3610. You can call to order and they also sell on Ebay. Hope that helps! al
Great video. If I may ask which Helmiprene Adhesive # did you use and where did you purchase it at? My son I are doing our 1st build and not sure what to use.
Hi Tommy! The adhesive I am using I purchased from Affordable RVing 15555 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Milwaukie, OR 97267. The number is Helmiprene 4545. Great stuff!
@@OregonBatman Thanks for the reply. I can't find the Helmiprene. Have you tried the Dap Weldwood on filon? I read that some people have used it.
I haven't tried the DAP... best to try it on a few samples and see how it works. You can find the Helmiprene at the Helmitin website, helmitin.com Stabond also has a pretty good product. Hope that helps!
He meant "other end," not "other side." I need more coffee.
Hello O.Batman Is that luan your using to glue the filon on? Has it still held up since the initial application? I contacted an Rv repair shop concerning the process of re-applying filon and was told I would not be successful due to it being a process I could not reproduce. I'm attempting to replace the entire 14-foot exterior wall that just disappeared while driving home after purchasing the camper. Do you have any suggestions? I already purchased the FIlon and would like to construct the luan exterior wall first so that I can successfully apply the filon as you did horizontally and then attach the completed wall to the aluminum framing with some sort of adhesive bonding. your thoughts & suggestions please.
Hello Fred... sent you an email with a couple options that could have you back on the road! :)
@@OregonBatman Thanks for taking your valuable time to help folks in need
@@1STGeneral Absolutely! I really appreciate you watching, and thank you for the kind words!
Not wearing a respirator?
Meh... was in a pretty well ventilated area, good darft.
Hello sir I'm replacing my back wall on my rv and skin is fiberglass I need help
Hello Johnny... email me batman97741@gmail.com send me a couple pictures what you got, and I will try to help best I can
Sir for how many years does Filon last thanks
Filon will last a lifetime... strong and durable!
Why pay for a sprayer to apply the glue when a brush or roller would do an equal or better job for much less cost?
The Helmiprene that I used is 4545 and made for spray application. There is 4535 which is suitable for roll on or brush.
You are gluing it? Everything I've read says not to glue it, to float it instead.
Hello Susan! Filon must be attached with an adhesive... Filon is a fiberglass sheeting. You would float an aluminum sheet, yes, to allow expansion and contraction. Not so with fiberglass (filon).
I don't think that's 100% accurate. On the diy teardrop Facebook page I have read tons of times not to glue it. Jay floats filon on all his builds. Jay's way more knowledgeable than I am on this subject.
Sorry... but filon must be glued on. RV manufacturer's never "float" filon. It is installed using the same method as counter tops.
Jay floats it all the time. It actually helped when he had to replace a damaged piece that was already installed.
Not something I would try. I would be very interested in seeing how long something like that would last. Only product I know that is installed "floating" is aluminum sheeting. I have never heard of floating filon, and a search on google produces no results other than gluing. I would have to say, the correct method is gluing the filon.