This is by far my favorite recent project, never finish it. WE LOVE PINBALL ALSO! LPKF ProConduct is a really good in house Via plating system. It's just a paste that you vacuum through the holes and then bake. Shoot me a message if you can't find anything about it. Also PCB 3D printer there is the Voltera, its... almost.
Maken it so, you can not use Hall sensors without inducing the ball with a magnetic field. To use a Hall sensor it needs a magnetic field to trigger on or measure the strength of that field. You can use a capacitive sensor or better a inductive sensor. But those types of sensors are very expensive or hard to make your self.
Inductive sensors would be awesome but yeah, that cost. The hall effect sensor method does work though, i recently posted a video about it and it tests out fine. the small magnets i used didn't seem to alter the balls trajectory at all. Maybe a little hard to make for some folks i guess.
Take a pinball, heat it up above its curie point, introduce a high power selenoid, cool it back down. Magnetizing the ball would be very very simple and could be done in large batches.
Ben, put the output of the detector on one side of a comparator and a pot on the other so you can just control when the comparator gives a strong 5v logic high.
If you only ever have a single ball on the board it seems a bit of a waste to 'scan' all sensors constantly instead of doing it interrupt driven. combine the output of all sensors and apply it to an interrupt-pin, and that checks what part triggered the interrupt.
Why don't you use a TCRT5000 or CNY70 all in one IR sensors. Easy to use and I think not that much bigger than your design Ben. Place a smd comparator on the board for TTL high and low (if you choose the correct one it can handle 3.3v and 5v).
Aren't there special printer-types that print circuits on whatever medium you put underneath them? I feel that this has been done with inkjet printers, as well as 3D printers.
Very interesting. I’m enjoying seeing these projects go through the various stages of development towards becoming a finished product. I’m planning on designing a circuit board at work, and it’s nice to see the mistakes you have made. The use of the laser paint to make a prototype for the ir/light board for example, I plan to make and test multiple iterations of my upcoming design using a circuit board prototyping mill before sending out for my board to be produced. It’s refreshing to see you use the same approach.
Ben knows about pinball reliability over time. Having this kind of IR switches under a playfield, that will be stained by dust, rubber dust, and other contaminants.... No, sorry... I won't buy it. Use hell sensors instead ! They are less expensive today than they were 20 years ago! Now, overall, the project is cool, and, as a pinhead, I'm looking forward to see more.
Well, it would be easy to cheat. With somthing that generates IR-Light. For example a TV-remote (well maybe only if hold directly above the sensor, but still xD).
Sensing IR with the digital input pin directly? Yeeeeeah, about that.... Not gonna work. Especially outdoors, and will gleefully pick up TV remotes, incandescent bulbs, and stuff like that, unless that was dealt with. And with DI pin there's not much that can be done.... Self-tuning digital-out sensors exist (like TSOP1738, etc), but they are expensive...
Damn, I’m still waiting on this project. You guys know how to make people wait. Suggestion: Ben’s next project should be a hairbrush/mirror combo. That mane is a mess.
9 months later and we're still on this? Ever since you switched to the blue and orange on white thumbnails and the looong drawn out project your views and quality has really dropped.
still curious why Karen doesn't get any screen time anymore. these larger projects are nice, but I think you need to try and keep them in order, bouncing around back and forth gets confusing at times. oh and GO FELIX :-P
I'm on screen less because I'm behind the camera more now. Glad you're liking the larger projects. Finding a good rhythm while working on three projects at once while still throwing in a few one-week builds ain't easy. Thanks for sticking with us!
yeah,, finally this series is back
Excited to see how this project comes together.
Felix rules!!!
This is by far my favorite recent project, never finish it. WE LOVE PINBALL ALSO! LPKF ProConduct is a really good in house Via plating system. It's just a paste that you vacuum through the holes and then bake. Shoot me a message if you can't find anything about it. Also PCB 3D printer there is the Voltera, its... almost.
i cant wait to be able to purchase this kit!!! hopefully sooner than later.
I had trouble with the IR pair in different lighting situations and ended up using a hall effect sensor
Maken it so, you can not use Hall sensors without inducing the ball with a magnetic field. To use a Hall sensor it needs a magnetic field to trigger on or measure the strength of that field.
You can use a capacitive sensor or better a inductive sensor. But those types of sensors are very expensive or hard to make your self.
Inductive sensors would be awesome but yeah, that cost. The hall effect sensor method does work though, i recently posted a video about it and it tests out fine. the small magnets i used didn't seem to alter the balls trajectory at all. Maybe a little hard to make for some folks i guess.
Take a pinball, heat it up above its curie point, introduce a high power selenoid, cool it back down. Magnetizing the ball would be very very simple and could be done in large batches.
Metroid1977 Love the name :)
I wonder if the IR emitter/detector will have reflection issues if the pinball machine has top glass/plastic.
I was curious of this myself too.
Ben, put the output of the detector on one side of a comparator and a pot on the other so you can just control when the comparator gives a strong 5v logic high.
If you only ever have a single ball on the board it seems a bit of a waste to 'scan' all sensors constantly instead of doing it interrupt driven.
combine the output of all sensors and apply it to an interrupt-pin, and that checks what part triggered the interrupt.
Really loved this one
I love this channel/show....even though most of the time I have no idea what Ben, Felix and Karen are talking about!
How to implement this and can this be line detection ball out?? Can you give any suggestions
Why don't you use a TCRT5000 or CNY70 all in one IR sensors. Easy to use and I think not that much bigger than your design Ben. Place a smd comparator on the board for TTL high and low (if you choose the correct one it can handle 3.3v and 5v).
Aren't there special printer-types that print circuits on whatever medium you put underneath them? I feel that this has been done with inkjet printers, as well as 3D printers.
Front Camera in iPhone 7 still work as IR camera back camera does't work so well, first I taught my remote is broken.
Very interesting. I’m enjoying seeing these projects go through the various stages of development towards becoming a finished product.
I’m planning on designing a circuit board at work, and it’s nice to see the mistakes you have made. The use of the laser paint to make a prototype for the ir/light board for example, I plan to make and test multiple iterations of my upcoming design using a circuit board prototyping mill before sending out for my board to be produced. It’s refreshing to see you use the same approach.
Why is zero "on"?
3:55 you can witness a moment that leads to "I wonder why they did that?" during teardowns :)
Cool episode, lots of interesting info in this one.
I am really looking forward to buy this kit and start affordable pinball developement at home. Have some great ideas for gamemodes and themes.
A PCB 3D printer... I would buy that.
The voltera? www.kickstarter.com/projects/voltera/voltera-your-circuit-board-prototyping-machine?ref=profile_backed
Felix is cool as fuck.
You could just use a different lcd that needs 5V
Ben knows about pinball reliability over time.
Having this kind of IR switches under a playfield, that will be stained by dust, rubber dust, and other contaminants.... No, sorry... I won't buy it.
Use hell sensors instead ! They are less expensive today than they were 20 years ago!
Now, overall, the project is cool, and, as a pinhead, I'm looking forward to see more.
Do some Analog synth stuff
What? 😃 sony xperia x-reality display and 6-inches psp / Gba ?
You made the portable dreamcast and used the psone screen. Could you try making a portable ps1 or ps2 slim portable
Well, it would be easy to cheat. With somthing that generates IR-Light. For example a TV-remote (well maybe only if hold directly above the sensor, but still xD).
Sensing IR with the digital input pin directly? Yeeeeeah, about that.... Not gonna work. Especially outdoors, and will gleefully pick up TV remotes, incandescent bulbs, and stuff like that, unless that was dealt with. And with DI pin there's not much that can be done....
Self-tuning digital-out sensors exist (like TSOP1738, etc), but they are expensive...
Sony xperia x-reality Display 1080p and 6-inches game? 😁👍 ❤️
Damn, I’m still waiting on this project. You guys know how to make people wait. Suggestion: Ben’s next project should be a hairbrush/mirror combo. That mane is a mess.
Damn previews. Quit teasing me. Its not nice.
Lol star trek 6 quote
Thanks 😊 you
Your General Chang impersonation sucks lol
Take a Sony tv and a PlayStation 4 and integrate the console into the tv, this would be godlike.
Whoa! Came back from sabbatical with steampunk beards.
Hey Ben Heck I think your video thumbnail design is not good
Thumbs up for random Magneto quote from XMen.
9 months later and we're still on this? Ever since you switched to the blue and orange on white thumbnails and the looong drawn out project your views and quality has really dropped.
Yeah, its getting old...but I keep waiting for the "good" projects... rip.
Yeah i think the same
It's a very complex project... it will take time
It's way better than building unfinished, unusable shit because there was not time...
You are probably one of the people who wanted Ben to make the same handheld consoles over and over.
Which would make you a hypocrite.
still curious why Karen doesn't get any screen time anymore. these larger projects are nice, but I think you need to try and keep them in order, bouncing around back and forth gets confusing at times. oh and GO FELIX :-P
I'm on screen less because I'm behind the camera more now. Glad you're liking the larger projects. Finding a good rhythm while working on three projects at once while still throwing in a few one-week builds ain't easy. Thanks for sticking with us!
Get on with it, nearly fell asleep.