Hasan Explains Why Vinland Saga is One of the Best Anime
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Farmland arc is what made this series for me. Elevated Thorfinns character to a whole new level that I had to start reading the manga because even the quieter moments are so compelling.
Vinland saga made me realize how much I actually didn't care about action. My favorite parts of any story are the calmer scenes when characters develop and grow
@@I.disagree you would love berserk if u havent read it yet
@@vvocal I've already read it and you're right, I absolutely love Berserk
Boring fun farmland saga , thorfin character doesn't make sense and kanute just flipped 180 in half an ep , 5/10 after that 9.5/10 s1
@@kingdoom5022 Bro has the worst taste known to man
Season 2 weeds out all the kids.
Separates the Thors's from Thorkells
It kinda slaps that whole tough guy thing in the face. That's one of the main reasons I love it. I love Vikings and Viking history/culture but at the end of the day, they were extremely brutal. Vinland shows a different (I'd say better) way to be a man.
not really its just opinion based lol I like action mixed with good dialogue but imo it was just too much dialogue
no it weeds out the non fan boys. I have watched every episode so far but it just not that good of a show mabye 7/10 definitely nothing higher. Season 1 animation was cool but the story wasn't great, Askelad carried all of season 1 and now without askelad nor the awesome animation it is very lack luster. I was digging the first maybe like 10 episodes of season 2 but it got monotonous.
@matt Reef that's the problem you quit during the build-up. As a manga reader, I knew people were going to quit it before it got really good lol.
Vinland Saga is so damn good glad to see people are liking season 2 despite how different it is.
I like it better
The colour tone they used for animation suits the farmland act much better. I imagined the first act looking like Gladiator or Vikings, but the colour tone they used were cartoonish instead. It would have been cool to see a change in colour tone as Thorfinn developed as a character.
I LIKED WATCHING 2 GUYS FARMING MORE THAN CURRENT MHA really portrays how epic Vinland is/
Episode ... 9 of season 2 i think it was, the one titled "Oath" ive literally watched 3 times over because i cant get over how chilling it is. The acting in both sub and dub is amazing
Everyone says it’s different but it really isn’t. Theyve been deleting this up since the first ep, and the themes it is exploring where also explored in s1
As soon as Thors said “You don't have any enemies. No one has any enemies. There's no one who it's okay to hurt” I knew this show wasn’t about violence but about growth of a man in my opinion especially after reading the manga and passing where I am in the anime it’s truly a beautiful story.
Nobody wants to see a leftist propaganda political shill take on anime. Go back to parroting the liberal globalist agenda that is on mainstream media.
@@darktobi2869Are you trolling ?
@@ishamael61 He is a literal shill for the globalist agenda why would I be joking? All his fans are brainwashed leftist sheep that support all the mainstream media agenda’s. Hasan fagabi supports mandates, lockdowns, surgeries for minors who can’t consent, gun confiscation, censorship, and basically every other tool used by dictators. The fascist Lockdowns destroyed 50% of small businesses and big corporations got rich which resulted in the middle class being destroyed. Yet he acts like he cares about the working class while supporting these leftist agendas. Mandates helped big Pharma tremendously yet these sheep are fooled by his act that he cares about the working class.
Yes, even a stupid can see it, it so damn clear right from the beginning. But what to do when people are not stupid but they're just blind. That's what showed in S2, that our present world is no different than the Viking world in the show.
@@navneetrout8193 100% agree and i couldn’t have said it better people fell in love with the violence and death and pillaging the show had and completely missed the creators on point in how terrible and sad it is. Those same people watching S2 just to see thorfinn go through hell again it’s sad it’s not cool to watch a little boy grow up murdering people it’s tragic, and it shows even the murderer can change and become a good person.
It's funny cause people see the farmland arc as a departure when the prologue is there as a setup to this all along. You need the era of Thorfinns rage and quest for revenge against Askeladd for the future arcs of the series to work.
It's interesting how (despite still being written better than most other series of the genre) it's initially set up in a 'typical' shonen structure but then diverts & uses that structure to tell something far better. While other series just ride off that initial phase for their entire run. Pretty cool.
I would hate to risk ruining someone's experience of the story but I would be fascinated to show someone season 2 first and then treat season one as like a prequel and see how that might alter someone's perception of what the show is actually going for. It would also build up a ton of cool mystery with thorfinn and who askeladd is and how thorfinn ended up there, and I think season 2 actually gives enough of thorfinn's backstory that even without season one a view could still understand, I mean thorfinn's dreams say plenty even without seeing the first season.
@@Wuffskers I disagree seeing some info in a small flashback is hardly a substitute for seeing the events fully play out. Although I do agree it would be interesting to see how someones experience would change as a result of watching season 2 first.
@@WuffskersBeing a Jojo fan fk that
@@terryqokov6999 Well, yeah its an actual good story. Feels like a Hollywood movie. So well structured. The animation is spectacular too especially in the 2nd season.
For me, the farming scenes are fascinating. In the first season, all we are shown is killing, destroying and destruction but now we are seeing how hard it is so grow. How hard it is to farm, take care of the land that invaders destroy in a second. Like anything in life, it’s easy to break, it’s easy to destroy but it’s so hard to take care of something, how time consuming it is to nurture something. What a story
Same lmao I honestly have no clue how it went over so many heads
@@michaelfulton8371American Gen Z mfs
They show, a warrior in the garden and it's Thorfinn story
@@royalfun1031 it's less a gen z issue and more an American propaganda issue. Most of the people loving Vinland saga are going to be millennials and gen z, but there are still many who won't get it in both generations because of the garbage they consume on a daily basis
@@dudeman5303May I ask what is the garbage these people consume?
More so than the class dynamics, I like the way Vinland Saga portrays being a man. It swaps the stoic, constantly competitive and non-empathetic existence that ppl like Andrew Tate see as paradigms for a manhood that values strength in kindness.
I mean thorfinn is pretty stoic in the series
@@AaronJBravo yeah but he's an actual stoic and not just an unempathetic dick who's only objective is to win no matter the consequences he might bring
Actually it emboldens it
Real. I've felt uncomfortable with my masculinity ever since my mid teens and have floated between masculinity and femininity and considered myself as gender fluid or non binary due to this dyphoria. But Vinland Saga has illuminated what true masculinity is to me... a masculinity where strength is based on kindness, patience and love. Its helped me come to terms with my masculine characteristics.
You mean Vinland teaches Healthy Masculinity and the brotherhood of Einar and Thorfinn is the peak of bromance in anime history??? No way... I watched Viking show for Killing and Violence and politics and backstabbing
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season 1 is so perfect cause it was like a slap in the face. I realized that I never even questioned the violence or the revenge, I let myself get swept up in the violence and Askeladd's question to Thorfinn was the biggest slap in the face i've had in a story where I realized something went over my head the entire time.
What question did he ask?
@@panacea.palace He asked Thorfinn if he had tought about what to do with his life after he (Askeladd) died, which Thorfinn didn't have an answer to
@@andresmartino6824 ohhhh right. Powerful scene
Yeah, "How do you plan to live your life" was not a slap, but a damn truck straight to the face which made me rewatch the whole first season from a totally different perspective. This is one of the greatest tricks that movie/series did to me - I got so carried away with Thorfinn rage so far, that I missed the most important message of this show, just like Thorfinn. And even before sesaon 2 was released with portraying Thorfinn as an empty man, season 1 ending did exactly this to me - left me in complete emptiness
That is why i love manga like vinland saga,kingdom, vagabond which are based on actual historic events and the in depth character study and ideologies they provide about these famous people is just insane to me.
I don’t think kingdom is an in depth character study
@@scottgimple8107 loll. it does have it's moments though
have you read blade of the immortal? it's easily on par with vinland saga imo.
@@scottgimple8107 Kingdom is more of a political story rather than a character study. It has a very Macro look at warfare and how it affects the land as a whole, rather than individuals. The conflict of the story is how would they achieve Unification of China in a way that would prevent further bloodshed in coming generations, which is a pretty complex issue.
@@scottgimple8107 it is way more interesting than Vinland saga
It is ur take if u think that
It has realistic politics unlike
Vinland saga
In terms of reception people prefer kingdom
I'm danish, so I might be biased. But growing up learning about our history and ancestry in school, before the reformation, and just having to deep-dive into this viking era, learning about the times, the conquest, the kings, and the rise and the fall of the Kingdom, I mean; And then for a Japanese anime (haven't read the manga) to arrive out of left-field, hit me with a curveball straight on, and I've loved it so much!! It's been a blessing, I've never imagined such a fantastic retelling of our shared History (not excluding my nordic bros, and shout-out to the Great Isles). I've literally camped in Jelling, and been to most of the places they inhabit in Season 2, and it's so weird. Season 1 is just awesome, but season 2 is so far just amazing.
you definitely should read the manga, the anime is unable to depict everything due to censorship, so while the anime is a great adaptation that adds some really good content to the story in its own right, the manga should also be read imo
@@beyondviolet censorship of what?
@@mj72633 nudity and sexual acts mostly, and if you understand the writing by now you can trust that it’s actually taken seriously. Sometimes entire scenes are cut, and I understand why, but yeah
It’s so fascinating because I am German and we are basically neighbors yet our history is so different, compared to our other neighbors at least
2nd season is also very good
Story writing and character development is top notch in 2nd season.
One of the best 2nd seasons I've ever seen
Like why was I crying over gardar he was introduced 3 episodes ago
Even the part on the farm is about violence and warfare because the slaves who are FORCED to work there are the victims of all the violence and destruction that the Vikings wrought. They are subject to constant humiliations by the retainers and their masters so the entire work emphasises the virtue of (and need for) non-violence because Einar and Thorfinn would not be in this position if it weren't for the raiding and pillaging that was part of the invasion of England.
Vinland Saga is also directly about Thorfinn's internal conflict and how he wrestles with the guilt he feels over his violent past and how he decides to move forward, having recently lost his reason and desire to live and it's only thanks to people like Einar that he managed to find a way to eventually make peace with himself.
This is a historical drama that treats its audience like adults.
Love this take
I kind of see it as a drama, with some action. Great stuff.
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This convinced me to watch the anime.
6:17 is so telling, i couldnt agree more with joey. Berserk, vagabond, vinland saga, AOT, chainsawman and Pun Pun some of the biggest most popular manga and they all heavily dip into what's making us all tick i know it's why i love miuras work so much and fujimoto. They are excellent at making they're absolutley unhinged insane characters feel super grounded in reality, not relatable in the normal terms, But relatable in Humans terms. And i think that's something most artists and writers of any medium struggle with.
A lot of readers struggle with this concept, too.
Too often I see people say “you’re not supposed to relate to Denji, wtf. No one able to watch anime and talk about it on the internet has had a life as fucked up as he had. If you relate to him you have problems”. Not the point; I don’t relate to his experiences, I relate to his feelings and how he tackles his problems in social settings.
Similarly, one can relate to Eren’s rage and powerlessness towards the world, or to Guts’ struggle to take control of his own life, etc.
There’s plenty to relate to in these stories if you look past the fluff. Some people focus on the individual’s personal experience waaaaay too much.
@@matilozano96 i could not have been happier reading a response, absolutely made my day, i hope you have a fantastic one to sir, people with a head like yours on their shoulders are rare and far between.
I'd add Monster there as well!
Violet Evergarden too. People really gotta come to terms with the fact that relatability doesn’t have to involve direct experiences but rather how the characters are actually feeling. If you can make them human, you’ve written a good character.
@@shmoked1789 Hey, I appreciate that. Thanks!
Vinland saga has no joke has my favorite scenes of all time
Climb Thorfinn?
@@aquinasvoiceactingclub9215 the Valhalla scene
My son, follow ur heart
im just waiting for thorfinn's "i have no enemies"
when Askeladd killed King Sweyn is number one for me.
Season 2 is picking up like crazy I feel bad for the people who dropped it early on.
Same it's soo good
I was close to dropping it because i felt it was too slow but glad i held through
@@mr.increediblle7964W
It's far better than any super power crap animes. This is peak anime 💙
lmao imagine thinking its picking up, so cringe.
I was kind of lost what was going on with the farm arc for a bit, but once we dive into Thorfinn's trauma and emptiness, it all clicked into place. It's legitimately such a compelling character arc and so beautiful to see him understanding his Father so long after his death
If Connor's looking for more Welsh representation, then there's King Arthur a.k.a. Artoria a.k.a Saber from Fate, along with some of her Kinghts.
Ironically enough, she represents the red dragon that Connor loves so much in the Welsh Flag
Yeah , problem is people think shes from the uk or english , because north americans know jackshit about their motherland's history.
@@blurb9319
Connor: "Cuz it has Dragon on it!"
Farmland saga give me my life lessons that no one ever taught me !! For me it is one of the best anime of all time along with aot!
The mangaka of Vinland Saga did something incredible.
You are waiting for Thorfinn to mess someone up and keep thinking about how cool it would be if a fight broke out. But then, you get to the scene where Einar says to Thorfinn, "I don't see you as a warrior," and you realize that Thorfinn doesn't look or behave at all like the kid from season 1. We are conditioned to think of Thorfinn as a cool, violent warrior who would kill anyone without remorse, and then Einar sweeps the rug from beneath our feet.
Not much later, a fight breaks out, and Thorfinn gets messed up. You finally start to notice the incredible contrast and how we were trapped into thinking of Thorfinn in terms of his past self.
Connor, if you want an anime content based on historical figure there is always Fate series y'know
Historical figures in Fate: Connor sleeps
Historical figures in Vinland Saga: Connor wide awake
@@400cabal Well Fate Series is carried by its animation. The story itself isn't that great.
@@PersonaPrime Eh nah not at all, Zero and Heaven's Feel have fantastic stories. Fate/Stay Night became massively popular because of how good the Visual Novel's story was. You could maybe make that argument about Fate spinoffs, but not the main series.
@@DoTheAstralPlane It is personal preference after all, but I wasn't impressed by Fate Zero's story. The only thing that stuck with me were the cool fighting scenes and animation.
@@PersonaPrime Well if it's not written by Nasu then yeah I could agree (and some fans as well). Some of the other Fate authors are a mixed bag. They write good and great ones, and even not that great ones when. (Fate Zero is written by Urobochi, Fate Apocrypha is written by Higashide).
The one that started it all the Fate Stay Night Visual Novel is still an amazing story, I could even consider it a masterpiece. The anime adaptation didn't even come as close to capturing the feeling, the narrative and character writing of the VN
Really hope other Seinen manga get adaptation like Vinland Saga animation. Still remember how Askelad is the MVP for season 1! will try watch season 2 when all work is done!
I always thought the series was more phylosophical than it is political. Stories are told in a more personal and intimate sense. Sure there were political issues being touched but i don't think we would have gotten Thorfinn's inner struggle and his nightmares had we gone to a more political route.
The intent or the work itself may not be “political” as people often would say (because people have an aversion of the term to the point that they end up being too literal with what it means) but everything that happens within one’s day to day activities is somewhat political in nature even if the intent in this particular work in your mind is “philosophical” but it works even better when you find out the political ramifications of the setting like class dynamics, why wars were fought and waged, land ownership, etc.
All of those things in the background of the story just helps with the overall personal journey of the characters and it helps readers think even deeper about how it affects them at a personal level when you see how these events play out. One example that people would think isn’t political but Thorfinn’s personal journey of revenge as a warrior and struggling to start a new life as a farm worker is similar to how war veterans try to come back and acclimate to normal life after being in active service in conflict zones.
That's not philosophy. That's psychology. And the point of political analysis is to see how much the personal is shaped by political/historical circumstances.
@@outkast978definitely philosophical, asking questions like “what is love?” (Priest in first season) “what is a true warrior?” (Thorkell in the first season), “what’s the meaning to life” (Arnheid) and such questions
@@AaronJBravo I'm not saying the show can't be philosophical, as I'm addressing what OP wrote which was that the story is told not so much politically, but in a more personal and intimate sense. That is not philosophy, which strives to understand universal truths. The natural extension of this is that it's necessary to deal with the show's politics to have any philosophical substance, i.e. "What is a true warrior under feudalism's class struggle?"
The character development of many characters, including Thorfinn, is directly influenced by the political atmosphere. Their motivations, actions, and destinies are all intertwined with the political struggles of their time. For instance, the quest for power and dominance by characters like Askeladd and Canute is a clear manifestation of the political tensions. While the philosophical elements in Vinland Saga are definitely significant such as explorations of revenge, honor, and pacifism, they often serve as an underpinning to the political narrative rather than a driving force in their own right. But honestly you could see it either way.
dude, this is why Golden Kamuy is peak historical fiction. (to be clear: not _instead_ of Vinland Saga, but in _addition_ to Vinland Saga... I love Vinland Saga.)
like... Golden Kamuy's approach to historical fiction is to research history, then take all the little interesting bits from whatever you find and mash them up in a historically accurate setting. so each cast member might have some very direct and specific historical influences, but the character might not be based on only one person, or live their life in the exact same way. they may not even share the same name or exact appearance as their influences. and this remixing quality allows for the story to be told in the way the author decides, without presuming too much, or accidentally mischaracterizing real historical people. what's nice is that the setting is so well researched, and the conflicts are so realistically imagined, that you can sink right in and really believe that these people would function this way. it's incredibly inventive.
Then the mad lass tosses in Jojo’s style beefy soldier boys traveling through the Hokkaido wilderness eating authentic Ainu cuisine 👩🍳😘 (lotta cute animals ;3)
It’s a wild ride like none other
@@Koozenryuu exactly! I think my favorite thing to see in stories like these is just... the characters sitting down together and caring by making sure that everyone eats well, especially if some of them have gone through times where they haven't always been able to have or enjoy food. beefy soldier boys need to eat! it is actually the most wholesome thing in the world, and helps keep the insane stuff in check a little bit.
Golden Kamuy is such a good action/adventure, human drama, war story, treasure hunt, historical fiction, comedy, and cooking show... it's at least the best story that does all of these at once.
Vinland saga is like the Vikings TV show at it's peak before they killed off you know who.
i started vinland saga like “i’ve heard good things about it” now i’m fully caught up on the manga and i’m in shock because it’s one of the best stories i’ve ever read in my life
Me too honestly. I've watched the anime two times back to back! This has never happened before. Vinland Saga is something else man..
That’s the thing about Vinland Saga, it’s NOT an action story, it’s a character piece. It’s an exploration of Thorfinn’s character. It just happens that the story of Thorfinn’s character is one drenched in violence, and instead of just making that a backstory we briefly see we get to actually spend a large chunk of time in that backstory.
Think about it like Thors (Thorfinn’s father). His backstory was of a warrior, but that wasn’t his story. We get to briefly see his warrior past so we can understand how capable he was and get an idea of what he went through. But the intention of his place in the story was to see what someone like that does AFTER the violence and see how they handle it when violence tries to come for them again.
This is a reflection for Thorfinn. But since he’s the main character the warrior history is fully explored instead of just a flashback. That’s what people mean when they say the first season is just the prologue, it literally is just setting up the circumstances that lead to Thorfinn’s real journey.
And don’t get me wrong, there’s action in the story. For people who really enjoyed the prologue you’ll have a lot of fun when the War in the Baltic Arc happens. But I’d argue it’s better than the prologue because it has a ton of action AND it’s well into the exploration of Thorfinn’s character.
The author was a legend just for Planetes.
Vinland saga should be renamed Askeladd saga and more. Dude knees must be hurting carrying that 1st season
The creator of the Boondocks Aaron McGruder is a big fan of anime so the animation is highly inspired by it...thats why we got the kickball episode in the 2nd season
the farming arc is what made me love the manga. I feel like if it continued as just Thorfin killing people, it would have gotten boring fast, i was already starting to lose interest when they started talking about the guy becoming king, and stuff. Its kinda like Kingdom, if they just kept fighting and stuff its fine, but it just wasnt what i was looking for
Ur a cuck 🤡
I love Canute as a character though, so well written.
kingdom is boring af, i dropped it a long time ago.
I hate violence and hearing Hassan talk about season 2 was what made me watch it. Season 1 is great but it's hard to stomach, then season 2 came along and it so much stronger and emotional. It's beautiful really
Just binged both seasons and it’s one of the greatest stories I’ve ever seen. It’s profound.
Man, season 2 was so deep. For me, the non-violence message was great, but I've never condoned violence and don't need to be told it's bad. What was great about season 2 was that the entire thing is one of the most compelling examples of how human beings can truly change. It's easy to lose faith that can happen, in both your self and in others. This is a moving reminder that it's possible.
My favorite part is the religious aspect to it. The part where king Canute rejects god as his savior and is determined to create a heaven on earth was so emotional it sealed the deal on my love for Vinland
Yeah I wasn’t expecting to see Nietzsche in an anime
Ayyyeee Hasan dropping that shout-out to The Last Kingdom was good. Might listen to the whole episode now.
Yeah was pretty cool to hear him mention the show, can’t wait to see the the movie in 2 days
I didn't really understand his first point initially, but after having finished the Farmland Arc / Season 2, I totally understand and agree. I'm from the rural south, that dynamic of "peasants" getting a sense of gratification from feeling superior to someone beneath them despite being poor themselves is at the root of a lot of racism. Vinland Saga has a very obvious and and strong anti-slavery message, so it definitely wasn't coincidental from Yukimura. And yeah knowing Yukimura's influences and messaging he's definitely somewhere on the left ideologically, it has to be intentional.
Its so short sighted to say that it's 'just about farming'. The political undertones point is an interesting one but its easier to be hooked on an even easier level.
Thorfinn spends almost all of season 1 going berserk and the second that Askelaad dies, his entire purpose and justificaion for his killing dies with it. Now he must face what he has done, and his solution is to build and create to attone for previously being there only to destroy. The show also shows you where this season is going. Both Canoute and Thorfinn both want peace. Canoute is willing to 'fight the last war' because he believes only he will bring peace. Thorfinn believes that war will never bring peace and the cycle will always continue. A classic, but briliantly done, 'do the ends justify the means' dilemma
Season 2 gave me the same experience Clannad After Story's climax where I bawled for 4 episodes straight. Except for me it happened almost every episode
I love how Garnt says that merging samurai with hiphop seems like it came out of left field but new york rap, in perticular wu-tang clan, have been on that shit for so long that it is crazy.
I don't think Hasan can talk about any topic without mentioning marxism lol
I mean he has a degree in political science so
From listening to you guys,the mangaka definitely thought deeply about classism and did heavy research on it, personally it's my favourite part of season 2.
Personally I like season 2 more than season 1 but season 1 is a big factor in that.
Vinland Saga got better plot than AOT, but due to it's more realistic approach and not much action it is not that popular.
I'd argue AoT has the more richer and multilayered plot but vinland has better character moments
They’re both different shows and tell different stories, both are good… But Vinland Saga feels a lot more personal. AoT is more about spectacle on top of the rich story about a large group of characters and their world, but Vinland Saga is literally all about this one character and their life.
@@LORDdrPepper Both are great, but Vinland Saga definitely has more depth to it.
@@mr.goblin6039 I am just saying Vinland Saga deserves much more popularity and credit then it really gets. I love AOT and the twist and turn in that story are amazing, but for me first 2 seasons of Vinland Saga already outclassed first two seasons of AOT. AOT started to peak after 2nd and I absolutely fell in love with it.
Vinland is incredibly popular, just not as much in the west lmao
If you think the message was “violence is sick” you obviously missed the whole point. This anime hits so deep, it has such a REAL LIFE aspect to it.
Season 2 was just as good and it concluded the overall message.
Vinland Saga is too real for y’all
Season 2 in my opinion had one of the best representations of ptsd of any show
The people that hate season 2 are the ones with fried attention spans that need explosions and fights nonstop to keep their attention, like JJK fans. When in reality season 2 is extremely important to developing Thorfinn as a character and has some of the best writing so far.
I really want to see an anime based on Marcus Aurelius it would be so good
I kinda forgot the emperor's name exactly, but maybe try "Thermae Romae"? The emperor is just a side character, but the manga is pretty fun.
@@Hell_O7 thanks for recommendation
Thorfinn earning the respect of the warriors by taking the 100 hits might be one of my favorite moments in all of anime
I have a feeling the author said Kowai(scary/intimidating) and not kawaii( cute). Obviously im not 100% sure bc I wasnt there but they sound way too similar,especially if you dont speak Japanese, and it makes more sense that he called Asheladd scary than cute lol.
I'm a huge fan of Scandinavian Metal and Anime, I was so happy when it finally got adapted
I love Makoto Yukimura, his writing is so profound, I actually prefer Season 2 to Season 1.
Vinland is an amazing anime, all young men should give it a chance, we all need to grow
hope to have azan back on, would love to see the boys talk more about his anime takes
The small message against choosing violence and making enemies is story of gardar. He had peaceful life and family but he chose to claim iron and thus left family for war and thus lost everything. And even after that he again chose violence as slave and lost his life.
Love the difference in the intellect of the video and the comments. Here no one has the capability to talk about what they're talking about
I think the battle of ideology in season 2 is just as cool especially the landlord's sons where one is a stereotypical viking and another realizes how horrific battle and killing is ,is just so interesting
I actually found the farming episodes entertaining. was nice seeing thorfinn and einar become friends, how they got stronger together and worked the farm. y'all played minecraft too right? reminded me of just that, building a farm and harvesting your results (spoiler: or not)
it is not GOAT it is one of the best.
And yet it still isn't the greatest farm arc... wait till kyoto or madhouse or someone with that level of animation talent picks up Vagabond... Imagine what a truly talented studio could do with it...
Especially if Inoue does continue to finish it... as it stands unfinishef even it is already arguably the greatest manga in history.
0:50 "and this might change", oh boy it sure did
i finally started watching vinland saga after finding out ppl dropped it because of the farming arc season...smh to those ppl. binged the 2 seasons in 2 days and im so glad I waited until now to watch the series. If you're one of those ppl that can't watch a character-driven story and just want action, kinda feel sorry for you. go watch your generic battle shounen like Demon Slayer if you want to be satisfied.
Season 2 is simply a masterpiece because of what we know from season 1. Thorfinn's character growth shines so brightly in season 2. Just to simplify it, season 1 was pretty much Thorfinn being the exact opposite of what a genuine warrior is. His dad pretty much defined that a true warrior is one that can solve problems through pacifism. Clearly, it didn't turn out that way for Thorfinn in S1.
Season 2 is when Thorfinn learns and realizes what his father was trying to tell him all along. By the end of the season, Thorfinn delivers the same iconic line (like what Thors said in S1) with King Canute. It's legit the ultimate redemption arc.
Vinland Saga is truly one of the anime of all time LMAOO
The jomsviking succession arc in the manga and the farming arc really opened my eyes a lot. Just finished readinf Vagabond and then moved on to Vinland saga. I can definitely say that these two manga helped change me into a better human being.
I think Garnt misunderstood Kawaii and Kowai. The first one means 'cute' while the later means 'scary'.
"the idea of merging samurais and hip-hop was just so out of left field"... Garnt has clearly never heard of the Wu-Tang Clan... its not like GZA's liquid swords album wasn't filled with samples from the classic samurai movie Shogun Assassin, the movie based off the Lone Wolf and Cub manga. Released in 1995 by the way.
Honestly if hasen swapped off politics/reaction videos and did mainly anime reviews and anime takes
His popularity would definitely skyrocket
Hasan: breaks down deep economic philosophy behind season 2
Conner: Wales!
Castle in the sky by Miyazaki is also designed after Wales. A research team from Tokyo visited Wales. I love the idea of a bunch of Japanese dudes wandering around Wales probably confused as hell 😂😂
@liamwright2510 if you've read the books Howl is actually from Wales
@@liamwright2510 i wish samurai took over wales . would love to have samurai dad and welsh mom
As someone who likes history and the Norse sagas Vineland Saga definitely scratched an itch and i love reading it.
Just reading comments to see people angry that hasan is talking about a political anime about nonviolence and cry about how its actually not political somehow. Socalism when no money ☝️
Ya the people commenting are just trying to argue with him but for good reason honestly they probably realize something he said is not correct but they just dont know what so they just disagree with what he says without thinking
Btw what I personally think(putting it in short terms) is he is projecting what he personally thinks a little bit and that may be why people just disagree or whatever
Didn't know Hasan likes Vinland Saga. Not a fan of the guy's opinions, but nice to know he has genuine taste.
I feel the same and thought it was weird that they had him on their show. I admit though that I don’t watch it much so I’m not sure if they’ve had other political UA-camrs.
Man's definitely did not actively watch it. He forgot Einar's and Thorkell's name. He looked to Garnt for confirmation about Thorfinn's character as a pacifist... He thought Leif Erikson was Thorfinn's grandpa...
@@mrcoole7890dude that's how it always is for us with ADHD
@@hei7846 worst words to use are always and never ;)
I feel like Hasan latched onto the concept of slavery and classism and didn't think of much else. The retainers destroying the crops thorfinn and his friend made to buy back their freedom wasn't simply classism, it was that same theme of pulling each other down that was present from season 1. From Askeladd pulling Thorfinn into death, bloodshed and violence, that was always the theme, those retainers weren't only pushing classism, attempting to pull thorfinn's potential down in order to bring themselves up in comparison to something, they were also bringing thorfinn down to their level when it comes to mindless violence itself, making him almost re-enter the land of warriors, the path Askeladd forced him down and he only got away from because of change. In that way, him being a slave wasn't just about the classism of being one, but the fact he arguably had just as much freedom being a slave with no ideals, or desire to hold to his own, push logs and making farms for another man as when he was killing every man on the castle walls for another man, the season has been about how an empty man who only remembers being filled with hatred grew able to enjoy life, and avoid the monster he used to be, gaining mental and physical freedom in the process. Classism is too simple, too lame a word for what's going in here.
Rant over, I realized I could make an essay and went for it.
He’s not talking about “classism” by the way. You’re talking about your main point as if he won’t necessarily agree with you. It’s tough to articulate properly because you have to read up more on theory but there is a lot more nuance here in what is being shared.
Einar literally brings up that there is not much difference between the retainers and him and thorfinn
Yeah, no shit the main message of the show is not political and takes a more philosophical stance. But hasan is just pointing out a moment where the authors political ideas are projected and shown through his writing. What hasan pointed out is a Marxist argument that the middle class doesn’t exist and the slaves and peasants are essentially the same (working class) because they own no means of production. I don’t see the reason to say what you said when he’s just pointing something out. It’s not like he’s watching Vinland saga solely for it’s political subtext. He probably wouldn’t even disagree with what you said.
Saying classism is ,"too simple" compared to whatever this analysis is shows a lack of understanding of history and politics.
I found the first season boring as hell, but the second one was a masterpiece. Every single episode was S-tier.
Vinland Saga is not little boy anime, but big boy anime. For men, with sadness, depression and taxes.
The taxes part , I wholeheartedly agree
is it just me or like I am really enjoying season 2 more than season 1, like making me cry is more impactful than making me hype
Hasan didn't explain it well, but wage slavery is when you earn just enough to not be homeless, but not enough to have enough financial security to be able to change your job to pursue something that pays more or offers better benefits. You can additionally be limited by debt or the need of having a health insurance.
Basically, the workforce is crippled into accepting the pay and working conditions, and the job market gets stagnant because of the lack of worker mobility.
Right. The idea is that the market provides the appearance of freedom, because you can just buy from/work for somebody different if you don’t like one guy, right? But the class of suppliers/employers all have a common interest of extracting value from consumers/workers, so they tend to work in their common interest to keep wages low and prices high. It’s an illusion of freedom to keep people from thinking too hard about how difficult it is to take control of how your life is structured, and why that is.
@@Necroskull388 Yup, I wish someday we could get someone from the radical left like hasan, but with more qualification to talk about things on a podcast like Trash Taste, but I don't really see it happening any time soon...
farming arc has been the best arc so far
I actually agreed with Hasan on something. Its a Christmas miracle.
Vinland is top tier.
The best bit of historical events being depicted in the show is canutes fanous speech about the ocean. Their interpretation of that is very believable and works brilliantly.
Also, i am a metal detectorist in east anglia, england. I have found the same sword pommels used in the anime, they really did their research and based everything on actual real history. Its a masterpiece.
It's interesting how Hassan suddenly conveys Vinland saga to politics. 😅 Vinland saga is a great anime, it does have politics involved to it but it's not how Hassan compared it. I feel like he's trying to push an agenda out of Vinland Saga. I think Vinland saga is combination of politics and philosophy with psychology in it, I think Thorfin's point of view is more of philosophical and psychological rathen than politics. Both seasons are great but they differ in impact. I guess my only complain with the season 2 is, it's kinda slow paced. I feel like they tried to extend the story when it's not supposed to be extended, I mean I feel like they added stuff in order to reach 24 episodes. I haven't seen the manga so I could be wrong, but first season did really well on telling the story with that amount of time. I didn't feel like the first season is forced. But all in all, great anime.
THIS is what I needed to cope w the wait until Monday… that cliffhanger tho (episode 16)…. can’t wait to see how season 2 ends
How can you not see the OVERT politics of One Piece?
Vinland Saga is definitely a left liberal anime, intentionally or not, that's up for debate.
Definitely talks about the Marxian class theory and equity.
Farmland arc is unironically my favorite part
2nd Season of Vinland Saga made me look forward to Mondays. Mondays are not your enemy.
Man, I stopped watching Anime but I can't stop watching Vinland.
If there was no Askeladd in season 1, people would of dropped it.
I love seeing Hasan living the true weeb life, just vibing with the guys. His presence was a breath of fresh air😃
I finished season 2 in one day, in anticipation of watching thorfinn to start fighting again.
What's with the dislikes, the video's fire
People are not a fan of Hasan politically including myself. Casual discussion of non political topics are fine though
usually the video's quality would be what people downvote but now you bring so much half assed politics and hasan glorifies his political side so intensely in every other sentence it's pretty annoying so that's where the downvotes come from, including mine.
@@sexmansex4776 Then why not just.. not watch the video?
Hasan is a "communist" who got where he is because he's the nephew of Cenk Uygur, makes millions from stealing other people's content and lives in his sprawling LA mansion.
Oh, and he's a coward who is content calling for violence but runs and hides when Sam Hyde gives him a chance to put his money where his mouth is.
@@5ryans people just don't like Hasan in general 💀
The only time I agree with Hasan
Vinland is the best at character development and making you think after the episode ends
Same
There's this manga called The Dragon, The Hero, and The Courier. It's a classic medieval fantasy setting, but it instead goes for a satire on modern bueracracy and politics instead. The neato thing is that every end of chapter has the author explaining what they found in research, like the practice of scraping ink off letters to reuse expensive parchment.
Connor will be a kawaii Asceladd if he grows a real beard.
Season 2 is better than season 1. Both excellent but yea season 2 just hits harder.
It bothers me so much how often people say Thorfinn's name wrong. Even the Japanese do a much better job than English speakers. I mean, I guess you all don't pronounce Thor correctly either, so it's not a shock, but damn... the h in Thorfinn is silent. Thor is pronounced like Tor.
Hasan having a man crush on Askeladd. Cant blame him.
I love it when someone is talking about something they know very little about and they say I think it goes like this and then continues to talk as if he is an expert on the subject
Hasan on Trash Talk, giving class analysis, life is good
Vinland saga farmarc is litteraly peak, people who disagree miss the point of Vinland saga
Everyone should know leif erikson if they watch SpongeBob.
I mean, he ain't wrong, but hasn't Hassan watched like 5 anime only?
Has Trash Taste ever brought on other political UA-camrs? Any from other parts of the political spectrum?
Not that I’m aware of, but the main reason Hasan got on is because he’s a big Twitch gamer dude who happens to be political, not because he’s a big political guy. He exists in the same space as Sykkuno, Pokimane, Ludwig, xcq, etc. I wouldn’t expect someone like Vaush or Matt Walsh to get invited on, because they don’t exist in the same sphere.
@@Necroskull388 😂 especially Matt Walsh if you heard what he thinks of anime.
now read the actual history on Canute (Cnute) and the Northern Sea Empire
it’s funny cuz i see hasan as someone who’s very reactive, vengeful or otherwise unthorfinn-like.
Isn’t Hasan a communist too? Class warfare and “eating the rich” doesn’t sound very pacifistic to me.
real
hasan genuinely has room temp iq and larps as an intellectual
baby brain npcs love to hate on Hasan lol.
@@Riley19934idk self defence is ok under most pasifist philosophy