i wish for cheaters not to get banned but be placed in an entirely new matchmaking system with only cheaters. so they can boost their hacks to maximum and circle jerk.
Lol imagine they don't even tell you you've been placed into a cheater's bracket, you just gotta find out yourself when everyone is rushing into each other and all dying to headshots immediately
Can confirm. Story time: Had a guy (in Plat) accused of cheating. Aim looked natural from outside view but guy got 5 headshots back to back (POTG showed him spinbotting but character model was moving normal so probably toggled). I was on tank and went Rein (I auck at Rein but team kept saying go Rein and shield our Cree or we'll report you). I did not shield Cree but instead inted so hard that the enemy had 6 ults every fight all cuz my team mass pocketed a cheater instead of drawing. I'm talking Sig, Bap, Ana, and the other dps guarded him with their life. We still won but I tried to throw it hard. Edit: Also once had a Zarya that flamed me all match for one bad play. Nobody said anything so didnt know until POTG showed it. Dude was walling. Next match we're opposite teams. Dude spams constant death threats and shit and tries to spawn camp me with walls but I kicked his ass as Lucio. Next game, vsing him on Route 66. Dude turns on aimbot and continues to shit talk and aimbot spawn camping me. I call it out again and the 5 randoms said I was coping. After the match I get invited to a group and they say they watched the replay fully intending to laugh at me, straight up inviting me to mock me at first but then saw the aimbot and were like, "damn. You were right". Tldr: Anything below masters will not believe they're cheating but half the time they watch the replay intent on laughing at you but find out you're right.
Bro and people wonder why overwatch is dead, I 1v6 whole teams with sym and get stuck down here because you can't do literally anything when a Smurf or cheater is literally pocketed by the entire team...
Cheaters are already complete scum, but cheaters in bronze are even worse scum. At that rank the poor enemy team just doesn't have the skill/coordination to fight back, and the cheaters know it. Shitting on low-rank players with cheats because they can't fight back is awful behavior; you're just ruining someone else's fun for your own ego. Good lord I can't stand cheaters
@@jedi_sabre7654 but they're still deliberately making the game unfair by exploiting the lower skill level of low-tier players. Plus, in my opinion, there's an argument to be made that deliberately playing competitive at a rank far lower than yours could be considered a form of cheating.
It happens, rarely. I had a nearly full group of friends in Bronze and we all put our singular collective Bronze braincell to drawing cuz of one dude cheating on the team lmao
What? Do you think we are mindless zombies or some? Im high bronze (1350 sr) and we just.. report the cheater. We just dont want issues with the cheater or the enemy team or some-
@@TangleHamain Didn't mean to offend. I was talking about Flats asking if they decided to draw the game. We all report, but successfuly drawing through mutual communication is another thing. I'm 2800-2900, and drawing the game seems impossible. Always some people in both teams who keep playing normally as if half the lobby isn't idle lol
I've called out a few people for cheating in bronze but because their team want to win so bad they don't care. There is literally no point in reporting cheating in low ranks.
@@aimlessjames8939 Trust me. For cheaters none of it is a problem. They don't even buy/or make phone number. One of people i watch covering other game that has actual great anti cheat system had interview with guy who cheats and make cheats. The things they can do. Stuff like that only slightly slow them down. Also you'd be surprised how young these people who make cheats or use them are. Some of them are in primary school. The rise of new even worse generation of people. Only thing that can stop a cheater is their or their parents wallet. Cheats are timed and hella expensive. On top of that lots of people who sell cheats scam players who use them.
@@aimlessjames8939 dude I really have like eight OverWatch accounts using my friends and family's phone numbers it's really not difficult at all takes 45 seconds to make a new account
Since OW2 is gonna be free to play Blizz really needs to crank up their anti cheat program, the fact it didn't catch that this guy was cheating is beyond me. If they don't upgrade it there will be a even bigger swarm of cheaters when OW2 arrives...
Being F2P it’s already gonna cut down on smurfs with having to unlock heroes through the bp and challenges after the season. I’m guessing it’s also gonna dissuade some cheaters too.
@Dusoe Gaming i beg to differ for 2 reasons number 1 u have to either win 50 matches of quickplay or paly 50 matches i forgot and also the fact u need to put a phone number in to even play the game
The confirming a phone number is supposed to help. Limits people to one account, so if you get banned for cheating once you can only confirm so many accounts.
Flats apologizing because he decided to watch the cheater feels unwarranted, he didn't need to apologize because it was obviously sent in so he could watch the cheater
Man, seeing a Mercy beam on a cheater always hurts so bad. Thankfully, it's a real bronze Mercy so they basically stayed on heal beam, but still. I know that mechanical skill isn't everything, but if your teammate in ~700 SR is hitting shots like this and dominating the kill feed, something is fishy.
Sadly u cant see if a person cheats on ur team unless u die and spectate them. Which rarely happens (to me at least) when u play Mercy and pocket a cheater so u just gotta live with a dirty feeling of pocketing that person and report when u check replay... Im diamond/master support and whenever we get a cheater in our team i get mad at myself for helping the cheater. Luckily we draw some games, but some ppl still dont wanna do that and doesnt care cause all they wanna do is climb the racket. (this goes both ways)
@@laffetum3050 True. As soon as someone says anyone in my team is cheating i stop pocketing that person and if the enemy team "give up" i die on purpose so i can spectate the person. Ppl in higher elo usually doesn't rage hack like this, so sometimes its kinda hard to see unless u watch the replay. No matter what i always report cheaters! They ruin the game! However when someone rage hack and the team lose (if ppl dont wanna draw) its funny and sad at the same time. Cause if someone cheats then the other team who doesn't have a cheater deserves to win imo. And then ez report and avoid 😉 I just wish u could avoid someone for life (i dont wanna play with cheaters) and not just for 7days...
You know, not everyone is a god player. Or even a good player. I’m around level 300, I try really hard, I’ve spent hours in the training room, yet to no avail. I’m still 1300 sr.
Ok so I don't have this confirmed, but it's a hypothesis of mine regarding cheaters in low elos: Many of them may simply be account boosters. Just think about it, they duo or trio with someone who've been trapped in Bronze or Silver forever and feel like they deserve to get out but they can't, so they hire an account booster who is also dogshit but has burner accounts with cheap cheats that they throw to bronze and then they just rage cheat to boost people out of the rank for a cheap dime. If they can boost 2 people at once its double price, and it takes far longer to get report banned in bronze than in higher elo where people know what to look for and also have the desire to look and report. At least this is my suspicion as I've also seen how they tend to be in a duo and if it's with a support it's a constant pocket etc like its so clear that whoever is queued with them know they're cheating but don't care - and usually its only the cheater themselves who take the risk and not the account getting boosted by the cheater. That said, this cheater might be so bad that even if they are boosting, it might not be very profitable if they can't get out of bronze themselves lol
Im not experienced with cheaters, but I feel like people from higher ranks on smurf accounts do this (atleast on consol where reports and bans arent as useful). I’ve seen players who are cleary not from said rank, but are boosting a group of players (usually just one or two), to get them to a higher rank. The most agregous example I can name is a lvl 25 widow that had MnK in mid to low plat, just mowing every one down every fight. Nothing could be done and we lost. And thats why I hate smurfs as a whole with the passion of a burning sun. They’ve ruined so many of my comp games over the years that I just dont care if they got perma banned on all accounts.
@@tatuvarvemaa5314 I had a level 25 Soldier in one of my bronze DPS games who was clearly duo'd with a Mercy, couldn't do anything about it as we were getting spawn held by the pair alone since our tanks kept staggering and WOULDN'T LOOK RIGHT. The only time we killed them and made progress was when I pulled off a flank ult. Granted that was also my last DPS game as I had to deal with the supports putting pretty much all the blame on me for not being able to kill the Soldier or Mercy when I was getting mowed down in 2-3 seconds every time I left spawn doors, so yeah.
@@tatuvarvemaa5314 I've had this problem too. I was in gold and there was someone on the enemy team won widow that was clipping us left and right and they were around level 25-30. Their name was literally something like "widowsmurf" and they had a partner on genji who had a similar name smh. It's annoying to deal with, especially on support when you're trying to keep your dps and tanks alive
In theory, boosters dont use cheats as far as i know and def wouldnt need to since boosters are usually gm players who obv would shit on bronze players
@@tdr_4620 Not always. I’ve deffinately heard of cheaters boosting players, its just as effective as getting a gm. A cheater from bronze to gold should be able to just over power their way through to atleast plat and if they have a permanent pocket mercy, they’ll deffinately get diamond.
Yeah, lower ranks don't draw for cheating. No one believes them, and everyone wants SR so bad, they just feel lucky that they are winning and the cheater is on their team. Every one has such bad experiences with smurfing and the like, they just feel "finally, it broke our way"
I don't blame them one bit lol. Overwatch was my first shooter, started at mid season 2 and finished 650 :(. But now I'm mid diamond on all roles. Those bronze days were tough, people were very angry on mic. I like diamond, I don't want to be masters, I heard in masters and GM that everybody throws.
@@DruidsCalling I don't really blame them either, to be honest. It seems odd to think that everybody throws in masters and GM...considering they are in masters and GM, wouldn't throwing get them...out?
@@listerfeend2004 last few seasons have had a lot more "throwers" mainly cuz no one really cares about their sr at this point and are just playing to troll until ow2. A lot of GM players also don't care about throwers cuz of graveyard season
In high ranks people use subtle cheats to give themselves a slight advantage. Any cheating in high ranks isn’t going to be obvious, you’ve probably played against cheaters without even realizing it.
Yah it's pretty easy to grab a buddy or some random in comms and focus the cheater. My wife and best friend did it a few days ago in a console top 500 match. It was keyboard mouse on an Xbox server enemy Widow of course. Yes KBM is cheating on console because KBM is not natively supported by the game. You have to hack the console which is real and yes you can hack on console. One of my Series Ss is unlocked to run RetroArch and PS1 ROMS.
@@LeDoomfistJames You don't have to hack the console unfortunately. There are devices and software that allow people to use keyboard and mouse that tell the console a connected controller is the input source. I left console OW because of that and free smurf accounts. It made the grind not worthwhile.
To answer your question on how does no one on their team realize that there's a cheater, its either because they don't care and just want the win. Or its because its bronze and bronze players don't have the awareness to know what their teammates are doing, they only focus on what ever is in front of them (which is usually just the enemy team).
4:58 watching you freak out about the crosshair thing made me laugh. coming from tf2, i’ve seen my fair share of shots hitting without a crosshair on the opponent. kinda sad that i’m so used to it tbh
Everyone who is sitting there saying "reporting doesn't matter" I disagree, I'm a bronze player and I've successfully reported more than one cheater. Got the TY from OW and moved on. Calling people out can help with other's reporting and you may not win the game and other's might not care. However, saying it's NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. I just have to disagree with.
Ngl this happens in console as well with ximming had a widow jump from silver every season untill s36 he jumped to almost masters with a 87% headshot acc
I know this video is dated now but I encountered 1 blatant cheater on OW1 and it was in fucking quickplay. it was a sombra who was locking on me through walls while I was in my spawn and once I called it out, I can tell you that low rank players TRULY believe people are that good. So its entirely possible this team thought the cheater was legit
People in lower ranks won't even try to draw when there's blatant throwers and/or people who stay just long enough to ruin the game for 3-5 other people by leaving within the first 2 team fights. They pretty much have the mindset of "It happens to everyone, I got a break this time" and just want the free SR. Open Queue is where it's at, I noticed all the people sick of role queue BS have gone there and the games+people are a lot better, at least on console. Role Queue is hell to even maintain SR in these days. Funny thing is Open Queue started as DPS land, now it's pseudo role queue with maybe a solo heal or solo tank to fit a 3rd DPS. Sure I suck at DPS, but if I can hold my own in open queue where my SR is literally held by my support and tank play, there's no reason I should be losing in role queue when killing 2-3 in fights.
It's kinda weird to go back to OW1 content/playing the game when OW2 is so close. I kinda wish you had more footage of OW2 to tide us over to 4th October :D
This just reminded me of the last ranked overwatch game I played. There were 4 top 500 players in the game the enemey had 3 of them and 2 cheaters. The cheaters were on soldier and bap and they were not hiding it whatsoever. It was disgusting. I didn't notice for a while until I saw my team just start to afk. Similar to my high rank expirence in league it just ruined the competativness of the game for me. Still play overwatch (duh I'm here watching this) maybe I'll do comp in 2 but probably not. Also going against a cheating bap is the worst thing I've ever experienced lmao. To clarify not only were there cheaters but the teams were horrifically balanced. Would have been fine if I was on dps but I was playing my support games. Also the cheats were more blatant than this video, their crosshair would not leave the heads of people until they were dead
Basically diamond and below, cheaters that are called out get all the resources. Cheaters are there simply to provide free Sr, and players wonder why they are stuck down there
On the note of their team noticing hacks it requires; basic knowledge of Overwatch, FPS, MOBA, or basic semblance of thought. This is bronze we don’t do that here.
No voice comms in low elo by default. The ball was a smurf, on the other the obvious cheater. This makes it crap to be on either team, so you just write it off and report, if you win its not even fun. Pressing tab is never done and no one looks at the killfeed so it often goes unnoticed. We had a mcree doing the same thing (silver on that account, first time i'd seen it) on the replay he was walking off and right clicking thin air to keep the critical hit ratio down (we assume). Last season in OW so , seems from my games anyone down here has given up entirely on getting anywhere and having every other game spoiled by something.
I deal with this daily in diamond and I'm the only one who wants to draw. My team or theirs see the cheater and will pocket them. It's sr over fun down here.
my cousin used to cheat in bronze because he has Beals-Hecht syndrome. i told him just play quickplay. hes been bronze his whole career and banned 4 times
A good way to tell a cheater is by their mouse sway. That's the biggest tell, they all have the same mouse movement when aiming. Also decision making, but mostly the way they control their mouse/camera.
This is the kind of player who... A) has a dogshit PC. B) thinks every hit scan player is cheating. C) Like Flats said; thinks they are much better than they are. D) All of the above.
I mean, wallhacks are an ability for a reason. For the hardest hitting hitscan it's even an ultimate, ofcourse is a huge advantage, if you can aim at least XD
Most games in bronze will have either smurfs or people afk or throwing anyway, I don’t really see the difference between that and cheaters. They’re all ruining games and making it impossible for genuine players to have fun. Reporting does nothing and at this point it doesn’t really matter anyway. I hope they fix it for OW2 as I can’t see many new players sticking around if it’s the same sh*t show we have now. FYI the Mercy probably never looked at the kill feed, players on the cheaters team likely didn’t even notice, and the ball on the other side is a smurf too. 15 min queue for that? I’m surprised there’s any players left at all.
The amount of cheaters in low MMR the past 5 seasons in OW 1 is insane. Every 2 games has 1 cheater and the are running walls mostly. Spotting terrible players using walls without the aimbot is some of the easiest things to spot in the game, easier then finding HP packs. Like dude stop wall tracking me across the map lol. At least try and hide your hack, can't even cheat right lol
Wish I could show you the replay of a game I had, had a enemy widow cheating on anubis, killed 5 straight out of spawn all hs, I went widow and rolled them for rest of the game. Shame it was only qp
When I am in a mood to piss off players in Total Mayhem, I go JunkRat and I don't have steady hands so I shake the mouse pointer. I have been accused of cheating due to this... So, I've kept it up.
I've run into a cheater in bronze. They were aimbotting with orisa and it was very very obvious. Ironically we beat them because a) they kinda sucked expect for their aim and b) we had a smurfing trio that carried Bronze OW 🤷 am I right?
Watching a cheater who is trapped in bronze makes me feel better about earning my way legit into the hellscape that was gold back when I had the emotional bandwidth for comp solo queue....
Unlike TF2 and COD, Overwatch has abilities that can't be used by aimbot and sheild abilities that make cheaters require any amount of positioning skill which they don't have
When CSGO added prime I turned it off once after a while with my now ex while we played comp to see what kinda games we got. Spinbots are insane to see in person, infuriating in the moment if you were tryharding and funny in hindside because they were a doom tornado and it was hide and seek around the maps 😂😂😂😂 I am so glad new accounts do require the phone number now for connection. I am wondering how bad it will be when OW 2 is really settling in and picking up
The amount of cheaters is going up a LOT lately. I have seen multiple cheaters lately but didn't know about this channel yet. SO they were just reported and i moved on. I have gotten multiple alerts (starting slash screen) that thanks me for reporting them but wont give any specifics about who it was or what was done to their account. Wall hacks are more common than Aim-bots but I have seen both. I am Tank=Silver DPS=Gold Healer=Bronze
Ok i clicked on this video thinking it must be impossible to have a worse cheater then the ones we have seen. How the hell can you be this bad and useing cheats? Bro needs a refund and go buy a couch because that will be a better investment at that point.
Hey flats I know this is a insignificant comment, but where can I upload clips? I had a game with junkrat (I wasn't very good) and the enemy Cassidy was being very suspicious I don't know if it was pure coincidence or if he was using some wall hacks it was too inconsistent. Needs expert opinion.
No joke my first ever ranked game on Overwatch had a widow cheating on the enemy team, we were on Kings Row on defense I believe. Wasn't even trying to hide it whatsoever, straight up headshot our entire team one by one and not missing anything lmao. Everyone obviously immediately noticed, and the enemy team agreed to draw, hella cool the enemy team actually understood how shitty it was
Just sad but every time i called ever out an ubserd cheater, all in the Game told me rage Kid or u cant take it that someone is better... Its really sad in low elo even in low Plat
This is the only reason I give overwatch more credit then most games bc when you cheat on most games you go kinda uncontested but in this if your teamwork still sucks then cheats won’t get you far.
i wish for cheaters not to get banned but be placed in an entirely new matchmaking system with only cheaters. so they can boost their hacks to maximum and circle jerk.
I want to see what the meta becomes if everyone can see through walls and have 100% crit accuracy
@@OrigamiAhsoka prob a similar situation with the cs hvh scene
I think they did that in one of the CODs
@@spyder335 It was Titanfall 2, ya?~
Lol imagine they don't even tell you you've been placed into a cheater's bracket, you just gotta find out yourself when everyone is rushing into each other and all dying to headshots immediately
"Do you guys draw this game?"... oh sweet summer child Flats. In low elo OW, cheaters and smurfs are boosted and resource prioritized if exposed.
It happened in a high gold game for me not too long ago. Both dps. They didn't care cause it was free elo :(
Can confirm. Story time:
Had a guy (in Plat) accused of cheating. Aim looked natural from outside view but guy got 5 headshots back to back (POTG showed him spinbotting but character model was moving normal so probably toggled). I was on tank and went Rein (I auck at Rein but team kept saying go Rein and shield our Cree or we'll report you). I did not shield Cree but instead inted so hard that the enemy had 6 ults every fight all cuz my team mass pocketed a cheater instead of drawing. I'm talking Sig, Bap, Ana, and the other dps guarded him with their life. We still won but I tried to throw it hard.
Edit: Also once had a Zarya that flamed me all match for one bad play. Nobody said anything so didnt know until POTG showed it. Dude was walling. Next match we're opposite teams. Dude spams constant death threats and shit and tries to spawn camp me with walls but I kicked his ass as Lucio. Next game, vsing him on Route 66. Dude turns on aimbot and continues to shit talk and aimbot spawn camping me. I call it out again and the 5 randoms said I was coping. After the match I get invited to a group and they say they watched the replay fully intending to laugh at me, straight up inviting me to mock me at first but then saw the aimbot and were like, "damn. You were right".
Tldr: Anything below masters will not believe they're cheating but half the time they watch the replay intent on laughing at you but find out you're right.
Bro and people wonder why overwatch is dead, I 1v6 whole teams with sym and get stuck down here because you can't do literally anything when a Smurf or cheater is literally pocketed by the entire team...
@@YourKingSkeletor I hate playing ranked w randoms. You got your own teammates flaming you instead of the enemy.
Even in master don't worry people are always hungry for sr
Cheaters are already complete scum, but cheaters in bronze are even worse scum. At that rank the poor enemy team just doesn't have the skill/coordination to fight back, and the cheaters know it. Shitting on low-rank players with cheats because they can't fight back is awful behavior; you're just ruining someone else's fun for your own ego. Good lord I can't stand cheaters
@Aquadoodle agreed, just as bad in my opinion
@@ComputerFreak1144 not quite as bad because they are not cheating at least
@@jedi_sabre7654 but they're still deliberately making the game unfair by exploiting the lower skill level of low-tier players. Plus, in my opinion, there's an argument to be made that deliberately playing competitive at a rank far lower than yours could be considered a form of cheating.
@@ComputerFreak1144 I never said it was good but it's not as bad as changing how the actual game works
Give me a an invite and we'll roll these losers. I have an account specifically for this shit.
I find it adorable how Flats thinks people in bronze can collectively come to the conclusion that someone's cheating, let alone decide to draw.
It happens, rarely. I had a nearly full group of friends in Bronze and we all put our singular collective Bronze braincell to drawing cuz of one dude cheating on the team lmao
BUT at the same time he gets surprised when a bronze players does literally anything right (like making the jump at the start).
What? Do you think we are mindless zombies or some? Im high bronze (1350 sr) and we just.. report the cheater. We just dont want issues with the cheater or the enemy team or some-
@@TangleHamain Didn't mean to offend. I was talking about Flats asking if they decided to draw the game. We all report, but successfuly drawing through mutual communication is another thing. I'm 2800-2900, and drawing the game seems impossible. Always some people in both teams who keep playing normally as if half the lobby isn't idle lol
@@Apethantos Alright. Also damn, good job for your sr!
It's like having a fist fight with 3 children and you pick up a bat.
Nah, more like a chainsaw attached to a rope.
Or a gun
More like fist fighting against 5 toddlers and pulling out the brass knuckles
never underestimate your opponent XD
I've called out a few people for cheating in bronze but because their team want to win so bad they don't care. There is literally no point in reporting cheating in low ranks.
Yeah most likely because after they hit plat, no cheats will help them anyways.
Bronze players tend to have 33% win rate. They celebrate having a cheater
they might be the dude who actually made the cheats to test it
@@aimlessjames8939 Trust me. For cheaters none of it is a problem. They don't even buy/or make phone number. One of people i watch covering other game that has actual great anti cheat system had interview with guy who cheats and make cheats. The things they can do. Stuff like that only slightly slow them down. Also you'd be surprised how young these people who make cheats or use them are. Some of them are in primary school. The rise of new even worse generation of people. Only thing that can stop a cheater is their or their parents wallet. Cheats are timed and hella expensive. On top of that lots of people who sell cheats scam players who use them.
@@aimlessjames8939 dude I really have like eight OverWatch accounts using my friends and family's phone numbers it's really not difficult at all takes 45 seconds to make a new account
Flats explaining how to play Cassidy using PEMDAS is gold 😂
Bronze*
Also hilarious how he hesitated to think of what the E was. That’s that several years out of school brain I can relate
bro is it a states thing to say PEMDAS? In Canada we say BEDMAS lol
@@AustinRead1996 Probably; I'm from the states and I learned PEMDAS. But BEDMAS huh? That's interesting. What does the 'B' stand for? Barentheses?
@@alexamin5003 Brackets lol. It's also pronounced like Bed mass, so it just seems like a more fitting name lol
You know it’s blatant cheating when a bronze player notices.
Since OW2 is gonna be free to play Blizz really needs to crank up their anti cheat program, the fact it didn't catch that this guy was cheating is beyond me. If they don't upgrade it there will be a even bigger swarm of cheaters when OW2 arrives...
Being F2P it’s already gonna cut down on smurfs with having to unlock heroes through the bp and challenges after the season. I’m guessing it’s also gonna dissuade some cheaters too.
It didn't detect it because he's using a external color aimbot
@Dusoe Gaming i beg to differ for 2 reasons number 1 u have to either win 50 matches of quickplay or paly 50 matches i forgot and also the fact u need to put a phone number in to even play the game
@Dusoe Gaming that is a really big oversight from blizzard wtf
The confirming a phone number is supposed to help. Limits people to one account, so if you get banned for cheating once you can only confirm so many accounts.
I recognize that screenshot quality, thought I was the only one who played OW on a smart fridge.
Apparently not lol
Flats apologizing because he decided to watch the cheater feels unwarranted, he didn't need to apologize because it was obviously sent in so he could watch the cheater
Man, seeing a Mercy beam on a cheater always hurts so bad. Thankfully, it's a real bronze Mercy so they basically stayed on heal beam, but still. I know that mechanical skill isn't everything, but if your teammate in ~700 SR is hitting shots like this and dominating the kill feed, something is fishy.
Literally how i've felt...and when she rez him... disgusting.
Sadly u cant see if a person cheats on ur team unless u die and spectate them. Which rarely happens (to me at least) when u play Mercy and pocket a cheater so u just gotta live with a dirty feeling of pocketing that person and report when u check replay... Im diamond/master support and whenever we get a cheater in our team i get mad at myself for helping the cheater. Luckily we draw some games, but some ppl still dont wanna do that and doesnt care cause all they wanna do is climb the racket. (this goes both ways)
I mean she's bronze so probably a little unaware of what's going on. It's actually scummy in higher elo's when they rally behind the cheater.
@@toxicfiend yeah this is why we need 1st-person spectate as well :( even in 3rd person it's so hard to tell
@@laffetum3050 True. As soon as someone says anyone in my team is cheating i stop pocketing that person and if the enemy team "give up" i die on purpose so i can spectate the person. Ppl in higher elo usually doesn't rage hack like this, so sometimes its kinda hard to see unless u watch the replay. No matter what i always report cheaters! They ruin the game!
However when someone rage hack and the team lose (if ppl dont wanna draw) its funny and sad at the same time. Cause if someone cheats then the other team who doesn't have a cheater deserves to win imo. And then ez report and avoid 😉 I just wish u could avoid someone for life (i dont wanna play with cheaters) and not just for 7days...
imagine someone has to cheat to win a game in bronze. How pathetic is that.
Yeah, I just stick with the characters I’m good at in general and I’m in Gold for support
You know, not everyone is a god player. Or even a good player. I’m around level 300, I try really hard, I’ve spent hours in the training room, yet to no avail. I’m still 1300 sr.
@@lunakon5911 Your bronze in what part though?
@@Overwatch2003 what do you mean? 1300sr, playing on support - Mercy mainly, sometimes others.
@@lunakon5911 1300 is bronze :^
Ok so I don't have this confirmed, but it's a hypothesis of mine regarding cheaters in low elos:
Many of them may simply be account boosters. Just think about it, they duo or trio with someone who've been trapped in Bronze or Silver forever and feel like they deserve to get out but they can't, so they hire an account booster who is also dogshit but has burner accounts with cheap cheats that they throw to bronze and then they just rage cheat to boost people out of the rank for a cheap dime. If they can boost 2 people at once its double price, and it takes far longer to get report banned in bronze than in higher elo where people know what to look for and also have the desire to look and report.
At least this is my suspicion as I've also seen how they tend to be in a duo and if it's with a support it's a constant pocket etc like its so clear that whoever is queued with them know they're cheating but don't care - and usually its only the cheater themselves who take the risk and not the account getting boosted by the cheater.
That said, this cheater might be so bad that even if they are boosting, it might not be very profitable if they can't get out of bronze themselves lol
Im not experienced with cheaters, but I feel like people from higher ranks on smurf accounts do this (atleast on consol where reports and bans arent as useful).
I’ve seen players who are cleary not from said rank, but are boosting a group of players (usually just one or two), to get them to a higher rank. The most agregous example I can name is a lvl 25 widow that had MnK in mid to low plat, just mowing every one down every fight. Nothing could be done and we lost. And thats why I hate smurfs as a whole with the passion of a burning sun. They’ve ruined so many of my comp games over the years that I just dont care if they got perma banned on all accounts.
@@tatuvarvemaa5314 I had a level 25 Soldier in one of my bronze DPS games who was clearly duo'd with a Mercy, couldn't do anything about it as we were getting spawn held by the pair alone since our tanks kept staggering and WOULDN'T LOOK RIGHT. The only time we killed them and made progress was when I pulled off a flank ult.
Granted that was also my last DPS game as I had to deal with the supports putting pretty much all the blame on me for not being able to kill the Soldier or Mercy when I was getting mowed down in 2-3 seconds every time I left spawn doors, so yeah.
@@tatuvarvemaa5314 I've had this problem too. I was in gold and there was someone on the enemy team won widow that was clipping us left and right and they were around level 25-30. Their name was literally something like "widowsmurf" and they had a partner on genji who had a similar name smh. It's annoying to deal with, especially on support when you're trying to keep your dps and tanks alive
In theory, boosters dont use cheats as far as i know and def wouldnt need to since boosters are usually gm players who obv would shit on bronze players
@@tdr_4620 Not always. I’ve deffinately heard of cheaters boosting players, its just as effective as getting a gm.
A cheater from bronze to gold should be able to just over power their way through to atleast plat and if they have a permanent pocket mercy, they’ll deffinately get diamond.
Yeah, lower ranks don't draw for cheating. No one believes them, and everyone wants SR so bad, they just feel lucky that they are winning and the cheater is on their team. Every one has such bad experiences with smurfing and the like, they just feel "finally, it broke our way"
I don't blame them one bit lol. Overwatch was my first shooter, started at mid season 2 and finished 650 :(. But now I'm mid diamond on all roles. Those bronze days were tough, people were very angry on mic. I like diamond, I don't want to be masters, I heard in masters and GM that everybody throws.
@@DruidsCalling I don't really blame them either, to be honest. It seems odd to think that everybody throws in masters and GM...considering they are in masters and GM, wouldn't throwing get them...out?
@@listerfeend2004 last few seasons have had a lot more "throwers" mainly cuz no one really cares about their sr at this point and are just playing to troll until ow2.
A lot of GM players also don't care about throwers cuz of graveyard season
@@waleedathar102 "graveyard season"? Meaning this being the last season and no one cares or was there a thing I missed/
@@listerfeend2004 yea basically, last few seasons actually. Since beta 1 people have been trolling
In upper ranks, i feel like cheaters just have better hacks but never get better so everyone just outplays them pretty often
Same hacks, just teams have more skills, or brain to draw.
In high ranks people use subtle cheats to give themselves a slight advantage. Any cheating in high ranks isn’t going to be obvious, you’ve probably played against cheaters without even realizing it.
Yah it's pretty easy to grab a buddy or some random in comms and focus the cheater. My wife and best friend did it a few days ago in a console top 500 match. It was keyboard mouse on an Xbox server enemy Widow of course. Yes KBM is cheating on console because KBM is not natively supported by the game. You have to hack the console which is real and yes you can hack on console. One of my Series Ss is unlocked to run RetroArch and PS1 ROMS.
@@LeDoomfistJames You don't have to hack the console unfortunately. There are devices and software that allow people to use keyboard and mouse that tell the console a connected controller is the input source. I left console OW because of that and free smurf accounts. It made the grind not worthwhile.
If he hacked any harder it might fix his positioning for him.
Bronze submissions being scuffed is just so on brand
facts, living that bronze life all around
The hacker was obviously not caring at all, popping ult whenever, holding m1 waiting for the aimbot to hit, genuinely not even there mentally.
9:00 tf2 moment
Get good, Get LMAOBOX...
Props to the editor for the Helltaker music. It's a fuckin' bop, and fits perfectly with trying to puzzle out why someone would cheat in ***bronze***.
5:20
Not even Mercy's gun can replicate the abomination that is this shot
To answer your question on how does no one on their team realize that there's a cheater, its either because they don't care and just want the win. Or its because its bronze and bronze players don't have the awareness to know what their teammates are doing, they only focus on what ever is in front of them (which is usually just the enemy team).
His account is still active too, just looked it up.
Also most low elo's won't care there is a cheater on thier side if it gets them a win.
Excellent music choices as always.
4:58 watching you freak out about the crosshair thing made me laugh. coming from tf2, i’ve seen my fair share of shots hitting without a crosshair on the opponent. kinda sad that i’m so used to it tbh
6:01 "You call that a fair fight?" No cass. Ya cheated.
Everyone who is sitting there saying "reporting doesn't matter" I disagree, I'm a bronze player and I've successfully reported more than one cheater. Got the TY from OW and moved on. Calling people out can help with other's reporting and you may not win the game and other's might not care. However, saying it's NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. I just have to disagree with.
Ngl this happens in console as well with ximming had a widow jump from silver every season untill s36 he jumped to almost masters with a 87% headshot acc
Or keyboard mouse
@@LeDoomfistJames yeah that 2 or payed to be boosted all is considered cheating take ur pick
I gotta say, i love flats choice of music when he started spectatating the cheater. Vitality is such a bop
My first ever comp rank when the game came out was legit rank 14. I'm so glad I've grown so much and got game sense. Now I'm comfy in high gold XD
great video! i have 2 say tho vitality playing in the background had me headbanging, that song is 2 good
I know this video is dated now but I encountered 1 blatant cheater on OW1 and it was in fucking quickplay. it was a sombra who was locking on me through walls while I was in my spawn and once I called it out, I can tell you that low rank players TRULY believe people are that good.
So its entirely possible this team thought the cheater was legit
People in lower ranks won't even try to draw when there's blatant throwers and/or people who stay just long enough to ruin the game for 3-5 other people by leaving within the first 2 team fights. They pretty much have the mindset of "It happens to everyone, I got a break this time" and just want the free SR. Open Queue is where it's at, I noticed all the people sick of role queue BS have gone there and the games+people are a lot better, at least on console. Role Queue is hell to even maintain SR in these days.
Funny thing is Open Queue started as DPS land, now it's pseudo role queue with maybe a solo heal or solo tank to fit a 3rd DPS. Sure I suck at DPS, but if I can hold my own in open queue where my SR is literally held by my support and tank play, there's no reason I should be losing in role queue when killing 2-3 in fights.
open q is wild because you have either plat hammer only torbs or silver moiras moaning that people aren't going 2/2/2
It's kinda weird to go back to OW1 content/playing the game when OW2 is so close. I kinda wish you had more footage of OW2 to tide us over to 4th October :D
cheats are so hard overboard he has to stop and watch ads in the middle of the game for how budget they are
This just reminded me of the last ranked overwatch game I played. There were 4 top 500 players in the game the enemey had 3 of them and 2 cheaters. The cheaters were on soldier and bap and they were not hiding it whatsoever. It was disgusting. I didn't notice for a while until I saw my team just start to afk. Similar to my high rank expirence in league it just ruined the competativness of the game for me.
Still play overwatch (duh I'm here watching this) maybe I'll do comp in 2 but probably not.
Also going against a cheating bap is the worst thing I've ever experienced lmao.
To clarify not only were there cheaters but the teams were horrifically balanced. Would have been fine if I was on dps but I was playing my support games. Also the cheats were more blatant than this video, their crosshair would not leave the heads of people until they were dead
3:09 Ball has the balls to go BALLING
I submitted this and just saying they did not tie instead I got flamed for being a worst cass then this guy it was an awful experience.
6:58 LMAOOO HE'S AIMBOTTING A HAMMOND MINE THROUGH A WALL
You don't need aim to be good at OW, you can rank up just from gamesense if you're willing to play support/tank
It's nice to hear some of Mittsies' music~
Yo Editor, could you turn down the zoom in on Flats. It's fine occasionally but I am also trying to watch what Flats is talking about
YESSSS MY FAV SERIES
Chester sent you this replay code to get your reaction.
Basically diamond and below, cheaters that are called out get all the resources. Cheaters are there simply to provide free Sr, and players wonder why they are stuck down there
Yup
Notice how at the very end, he killed the widow then instantly looked down for the flash on the lucio.
What screenshot skills do you expect from bronze players?
Grandmasters: Your teammate's cheating
The other team: Ok let's draw
Bronzes: Your teammate's cheating
The other team: Ana ults cheater
On the note of their team noticing hacks it requires; basic knowledge of Overwatch, FPS, MOBA, or basic semblance of thought. This is bronze we don’t do that here.
No voice comms in low elo by default. The ball was a smurf, on the other the obvious cheater. This makes it crap to be on either team, so you just write it off and report, if you win its not even fun. Pressing tab is never done and no one looks at the killfeed so it often goes unnoticed. We had a mcree doing the same thing (silver on that account, first time i'd seen it) on the replay he was walking off and right clicking thin air to keep the critical hit ratio down (we assume). Last season in OW so , seems from my games anyone down here has given up entirely on getting anywhere and having every other game spoiled by something.
I respect the Trailer Park Boys reference at the beginning of the video, that's the way she fuckin goes
I deal with this daily in diamond and I'm the only one who wants to draw. My team or theirs see the cheater and will pocket them. It's sr over fun down here.
My Mercy!
Watching flats vids on mobile data cus my wifi is down and cant play overwatch. Maybe this is how life is meant to be.
my cousin used to cheat in bronze because he has Beals-Hecht syndrome. i told him just play quickplay. hes been bronze his whole career and banned 4 times
That's even worse bro you cheat because you're disabled?! No excuses. Your brother should be banned.
@@LeDoomfistJames he doesn't anymore. He passed away last July
A good way to tell a cheater is by their mouse sway. That's the biggest tell, they all have the same mouse movement when aiming. Also decision making, but mostly the way they control their mouse/camera.
Well it's high noon somewhere in the world and for him it's all the time
This is the kind of player who...
A) has a dogshit PC.
B) thinks every hit scan player is cheating.
C) Like Flats said; thinks they are much better than they are.
D) All of the above.
walling is a huge advantage. I played with the best hanzo I have ever seen in sonic arrow placement, it legitimately felt like hacking.
I mean, wallhacks are an ability for a reason. For the hardest hitting hitscan it's even an ultimate, ofcourse is a huge advantage, if you can aim at least XD
Ah... this is free to play Overwatch looks like.
Most games in bronze will have either smurfs or people afk or throwing anyway, I don’t really see the difference between that and cheaters. They’re all ruining games and making it impossible for genuine players to have fun. Reporting does nothing and at this point it doesn’t really matter anyway. I hope they fix it for OW2 as I can’t see many new players sticking around if it’s the same sh*t show we have now. FYI the Mercy probably never looked at the kill feed, players on the cheaters team likely didn’t even notice, and the ball on the other side is a smurf too. 15 min queue for that? I’m surprised there’s any players left at all.
The amount of cheaters in low MMR the past 5 seasons in OW 1 is insane. Every 2 games has 1 cheater and the are running walls mostly. Spotting terrible players using walls without the aimbot is some of the easiest things to spot in the game, easier then finding HP packs. Like dude stop wall tracking me across the map lol. At least try and hide your hack, can't even cheat right lol
Why does has a scooby Doo where are you type BGM for the video 🤣🤣🤣
Love the series! First time commenting, long time watcher.
6:50 bros playing minesweeper
As a mccassidy main I'm offended by this man's existence
1:32 how could you NOT read that flats??????
Wish I could show you the replay of a game I had, had a enemy widow cheating on anubis, killed 5 straight out of spawn all hs, I went widow and rolled them for rest of the game. Shame it was only qp
Bronze doesn't have enough coordinator to draw intentionally
When I am in a mood to piss off players in Total Mayhem, I go JunkRat and I don't have steady hands so I shake the mouse pointer. I have been accused of cheating due to this... So, I've kept it up.
I've run into a cheater in bronze. They were aimbotting with orisa and it was very very obvious. Ironically we beat them because a) they kinda sucked expect for their aim and b) we had a smurfing trio that carried
Bronze OW 🤷 am I right?
This guy's theme just needs to be Vitality when he plays-
THE HELLTAKER SOUNDTRACK LMAO
Watching a cheater who is trapped in bronze makes me feel better about earning my way legit into the hellscape that was gold back when I had the emotional bandwidth for comp solo queue....
Unlike TF2 and COD, Overwatch has abilities that can't be used by aimbot and sheild abilities that make cheaters require any amount of positioning skill which they don't have
When CSGO added prime I turned it off once after a while with my now ex while we played comp to see what kinda games we got. Spinbots are insane to see in person, infuriating in the moment if you were tryharding and funny in hindside because they were a doom tornado and it was hide and seek around the maps 😂😂😂😂
I am so glad new accounts do require the phone number now for connection. I am wondering how bad it will be when OW 2 is really settling in and picking up
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Super funny! Loved the vid
Flats coming in clutch 🙏🏼
Maybe he's a smurf with a really good gaming chair
Original and hilarious 🙄
Tbf it's probably hard to land a proper flashbang when cheats move your crosshair all over the place.
The amount of cheaters is going up a LOT lately. I have seen multiple cheaters lately but didn't know about this channel yet. SO they were just reported and i moved on. I have gotten multiple alerts (starting slash screen) that thanks me for reporting them but wont give any specifics about who it was or what was done to their account. Wall hacks are more common than Aim-bots but I have seen both. I am Tank=Silver DPS=Gold Healer=Bronze
I've been seeing a shitton of cheaters in QP too. They usually brag and don't even bother trying to hide it "because they wont get banned anyway".
other than masters, GM, and Top 500 you dont really see a draw for a cheater and even then its not always a guarantee
Ok i clicked on this video thinking it must be impossible to have a worse cheater then the ones we have seen. How the hell can you be this bad and useing cheats? Bro needs a refund and go buy a couch because that will be a better investment at that point.
11:30 i got once gemji blade cheating, i even watch the gameplay of it after the game ends. ANd he suspiciously afked before he ultimated
Happy to be here :)
Hey flats I know this is a insignificant comment, but where can I upload clips? I had a game with junkrat (I wasn't very good) and the enemy Cassidy was being very suspicious I don't know if it was pure coincidence or if he was using some wall hacks it was too inconsistent. Needs expert opinion.
The glasses look halfway decent on you though. yay for eye health!
No joke my first ever ranked game on Overwatch had a widow cheating on the enemy team, we were on Kings Row on defense I believe. Wasn't even trying to hide it whatsoever, straight up headshot our entire team one by one and not missing anything lmao. Everyone obviously immediately noticed, and the enemy team agreed to draw, hella cool the enemy team actually understood how shitty it was
Can't believe someone bought a whole new account to cheat down in bronze, that's so lame
Bronze cheaters 💀
sad news today but this was refreshing to know that im better than most cheaters in any game
This guys got the dollar store hacks
I learn alot through all the shade lol I can hear this man in the back of my mind when I play sometimes plz never spectate me
Nice 500 word essay bronze players
I played against a hacker that was shooting the floor and hitting head shots
Just sad but every time i called ever out an ubserd cheater, all in the Game told me rage Kid or u cant take it that someone is better... Its really sad in low elo even in low Plat
What is the music in the background of this vid, i swear i recognise it but idk where from
Helltaker OST
This is the only reason I give overwatch more credit then most games bc when you cheat on most games you go kinda uncontested but in this if your teamwork still sucks then cheats won’t get you far.