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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2017
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  • @nano7586
    @nano7586 6 років тому +7

    Professional mastering, very rare on youtube. Thanks for your tips!!

  • @francisbawasanta6310
    @francisbawasanta6310 5 років тому

    I'm really learning a lot. Great videos. Really cool track too.

  • @petemusgrove7422
    @petemusgrove7422 6 років тому +7

    Great video and I like his music! My compositions tend to be dynamic, so this was especially interesting to me. Thank you!

    • @BobbyCrane
      @BobbyCrane 6 років тому +2

      Pete Musgrove thanks for the compliment!

  • @briankingart
    @briankingart 4 роки тому

    Righteous Surgical Tutorial! TYVM!

  • @fireflake_dnb_470
    @fireflake_dnb_470 4 роки тому

    I am really learning bits on your Channel. Producing DnB is a different World, but most tips you give are translatable into every Genre.

  • @portnoy256
    @portnoy256 5 років тому

    Great ideas and smart way to achieve them!

  • @jomesias
    @jomesias 4 роки тому +1

    6 bands! Hmm sounds interesting! Thx for blowing my mind on mastering today!!!
    The automation is also a pro technique 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🥳🥳🥳

  • @TheMusikdoctor
    @TheMusikdoctor 6 років тому

    thanks for ur knowlege very helpfull

  • @bubz75
    @bubz75 6 років тому +2

    Great video

  • @jansmejkal8088
    @jansmejkal8088 5 років тому

    i learned so much today. Damn!

  • @gavmurray7398
    @gavmurray7398 5 років тому

    great video automating the limiter is a cool trick

  • @troeteimarsch
    @troeteimarsch 4 роки тому

    the pro-l tricks were very helpful!

  • @gagamoola
    @gagamoola 5 років тому

    cool jacket!!!

  • @jousboxx9532
    @jousboxx9532 6 років тому +2

    7:34 ok makes sense

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate 6 років тому +25

    I feel like he's selling Snake Oil.

  • @scarykrishna3191
    @scarykrishna3191 5 років тому

    Did the tune too.

  • @jnamet
    @jnamet 4 роки тому

    Solo X-OR in tools will let you switch solos seamlessly between tracks without adding them to playback :)

  • @BRBWaffles
    @BRBWaffles 6 років тому +13

    Oversampling on limiters will improve the sound in direct proportion to the amount of gain reduction you're getting. Limiters create distortion when the gain reduction is high, and the oversampling stops the limiter from generating foldback aliasing into the signal (harmonics generated above Nyquist folding back into the 20Hz-20kHz range). At one point you're getting 6dB of gain reduction on your limiter. I would say if you're using a limiter to just catch odd peaks, oversampling is likely not adding anything. But, the amount of gain reduction you're getting definitely calls for oversampling. You can hear how distorted it is, especially in the kick drum. It would sound better with oversampling, but with that much gain reduction you'll never avoid the distortion.

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому +3

      +BRBWaffles distortion! Me likey!

    • @DanDuskin
      @DanDuskin 6 років тому +1

      I did some sinewave tests with different lookahead limiters, and found FabFilter produced more distortion than any of the 3 lookahead limiters I tried (L2, UAD Precision Limiter, Pro-L). I think the increased distortion is exactly why so many people love Pro-L. Personally, I usually prefer to use some kind of harmonic distortion enhancer (such as the Sonnox Inflator) to Brickwall Limiting at all... but as long as it sounds good, that's all that matters.

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому +9

      I think that you cannot overcome that something will distort when limiting it hard, and if you can’t overcome it, you have to make use of it..

    • @BRBWaffles
      @BRBWaffles 6 років тому

      Out of curiosity, check out the free plugin LoudMax. A lot of folks at KVR claim it to be one of the most transparent limiters available.

    • @JimijaymesProductions
      @JimijaymesProductions 5 років тому

      @@Whiteseastudio you can avoid that more clipping distortion if you have a bit more pumping, if you have used elephant you can hear this difference in the different algorithms. Waves L1 is an example of the distortion from short attack and releases.

  • @heavymetalmixer91
    @heavymetalmixer91 6 років тому

    Could you make a review on the Sonic Anomaly Unlimited limiter? Some people say it's better than Limiter No. 6.

  • @sithembisolungu3599
    @sithembisolungu3599 4 роки тому

    When multiband compressing do you solo the bands or you do it with the whole track playing

  • @michaelwirth6843
    @michaelwirth6843 4 роки тому

    Nice video! Whats the name of the song/artist?

  • @TheQuantixXx
    @TheQuantixXx 5 років тому +1

    hey i didn‘t really understand why his track would get turned down by the loudness algorithms... could anyone explain it to me? i‘m having similar issues

    • @TheShadowblast123
      @TheShadowblast123 5 років тому

      If the loud part of the track is too loud it gets turned down. With the track being so dynamic, the only place to get an accurate read on how loud everything can be before things get turned down is the drop, but notice how the drops have been bricked walled with limiting. This is fine if nothing nothing else has been - oof the verses reach the same visual level. So actually those drops are actually insane in volume.

  • @like-icecream
    @like-icecream 6 років тому

    Did you think about using normalization on the quieter parts to save you using automation on the limiter?

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому +2

      Normalising only a part of the track would give problems in joining up the parts again....

  • @tekis0
    @tekis0 6 років тому

    Hello: Nice video, great topic and good job on mastering that song. But, I wish you would spend more time playing the track--especially when you were A/Bing the multi-band section! Are you trying to keep the video below 10 minutes, because some of us would like more time to listen to the differences and nuances. I grew up listening to complete albums. And I'm sure that you spent a fair amount of time doing this master (sounds like it, anyway), I just want a little more music, so I can hear the difference. Thanks!

  • @JimijaymesProductions
    @JimijaymesProductions 5 років тому +1

    I'd really want to remix this, the chorus pads are taking up so much room it doesn't sound loud but obviously is. A tiny bit of side chaining would drastically change how that sound and this verse percussion sounds are super loud compared to everything.

  • @stonepowers
    @stonepowers 6 років тому

    U R Pro-MB settings on attack and release values are pretty unusual.

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому

      Look pretty usual to me 😳

    • @stonepowers
      @stonepowers 6 років тому

      Well, for example, the 'second one' for the kick with that fast attack and fast release it's not quite 'normal' but there are no rullz and the track sounds g00d. I like to check presets from others and maybe I`ll try u r ideea t00.
      It will be fun when I overlay this preset to a drum n bass track.

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому

      I know, you normally want slower attack, but if I did that on this track, it clogged up... So its again about what sounds good, not what is usual ;-)

  • @ThePhantomJack
    @ThePhantomJack 6 років тому +5

    The tracks is awesome :0 can you drop the name? Thanks!

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому

      The track isn’t published yet 🤔

    • @ThePhantomJack
      @ThePhantomJack 6 років тому

      White Sea Studio well, that's kinda obvious, but the band/producer?

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому +1

      I actually don’t know, let’s wait until CRANE music is here ;-)

    • @ThePhantomJack
      @ThePhantomJack 6 років тому +1

      just seen you posted the link, sorry for wasting your time!

    • @BobbyCrane
      @BobbyCrane 6 років тому +5

      ThePhantomJack you didn’t waste anyone’s time! I’m so glad you’re interested :) artist name is, CRANE. This song is called Evil, and it’ll be releasing in three weeks! 🙀

  • @laboutique6257
    @laboutique6257 4 роки тому

    Geen oversampling? ;)

  • @chiller9601
    @chiller9601 4 роки тому

    This Automation thing you learned at the real mastering session? Because he did the same.

  • @DanDuskin
    @DanDuskin 6 років тому

    15ips on the tape?

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому +1

      +Daniel Duskin i think it was on the german equivalent of 30

    • @DanDuskin
      @DanDuskin 6 років тому +1

      Sounds really great!

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому

      37 zentimiters per sekunde

    • @BobbyCrane
      @BobbyCrane 6 років тому

      Do I even want to know the cost of that tape machine? Or will I cry?

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  6 років тому +1

      I payed a plate of chinese food for it...

  • @Hussepapito
    @Hussepapito 6 років тому +1

    Bro can you make a video on mixing Hiphop. Wanna hear ya take on it

  • @clickbaitcabaret8208
    @clickbaitcabaret8208 4 роки тому

    Dayum! That's all fucked up.

  • @paulschal8131
    @paulschal8131 5 років тому +3

    watching this as a mastering engeneer i never consider using as much gain on a single limiter.
    a professional mastering prozess would look way different. thumbs up for your automation work but you shuld find a way to ganinstage thru your plugin or hardware chain instead boosting the volume with a single limmiter plugin ;)

  • @bratvasea230
    @bratvasea230 5 років тому

    Crane MUSIC channel - no content...WTF?

  • @greeneyes66
    @greeneyes66 5 років тому +1

    Ok, where do I start. Interesting concepts. Still: THAT much content below 50Hz, heck, down to 20Hz - good luck on a club or huge PA system with that track. Second, with the target level I assume you are going for, -1dB is the absolute minimum headroom if the track ever gets downsampled for a streaming platform. Inter sample peaks, need I say more. No, not fabfilter Pro-L - in the encoder Spotify, Apple, Deezer, you name it, is going to employ. Thirdly, In my experience it is way more effective to engage some macro dynamics management on the track BEFORE the limiter stage....