Bengals, Commanders, Lions leave NFL draft with good classes | Chris Simms Unbuttoned | NFL on NBC
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Bengals, Commanders, Lions leave NFL draft with good classes | Chris Simms Unbuttoned | NFL on NBC
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Chris you were the only guy I have ever heard say Arnold wasn't a top 5 corner in this draft. It was 50/50 split down the middle between him and Mitchell when it came to a lot of draft gurus.
Chis thought he was a NFL quarterback 😂
You already know he's a Lions hater😅.. him and his buddy Florio
Yeah he just liked the white corner cooper dejean and wanted him to be drafted high
Let's be honest. You can't really grade most draft picks for another year or two.
and 7 round Mock Drafts are a complete waste of time.
The Lions made it to the NFC championship with Cameron Sutton and Jerry Jacobs as they're starting cornerbacks now. Those two are long gone in our second areas twice as good. We went from bottom three to top 10 over this off season. Watch out here we go baby Lions all day
Chris Simms at 10:02, " I think they're just lookin at it like, just ya know, like you kinda explained it, just good secondary people, right". Brad Holmes..."We draft the best player available". Go make me a hot dog Simms.
Funny I seen a lot of analyst having Arnold as the top corner some had going top 10
Bengals went off the rails a little in the middle rounds, but anybody who doesn't like their first 3 picks is ignorant
I don't think so, I think they drafted for depth, which is what you have to do when you get the chance when you have a QB sucking up your entire budget.
Fiske is 24 already he will be 25 when the season is still going on and he has 31 inch arms.
A wash up qb talking about people draft
Arnold was considered one of the best CBs in this draft. Most thought he would be gone before #24
and its not what teams were between 24 and 29 - it was who would trade back into the 1st and take him. Remember last year they were salivating at Devon Witherspoon at 6 until Seattle jumped them - then they traded back to 12.
@@jetsamperes5762
Blessing in disguise.
Yes I'm hearing #1 from everyone else, not sure why not even top 5
Lions crushed that pick! How could anyone not like it?!
@@herrobp
Because people think they could have gotten a similar prospect where they already were, and kept their picks,
Lions gunna be crazy with a defense that stops on 3rd down
Right they are already elite at stopping the run.
Lions fan here. The Bengals first 6 picks were phenomenal. You're getting an absolute monster in Kris Jenkins. You guys should be very happy. The Chiefs have a lot more teams to worry about this year lol.
Thank you, glad to see your team is doing great to, you're going to love DJ Reader, he's amazing and a great locker room leader. He helped turned our team around and he will do the same thing for you.
It seems like the default pundit setting now is to say that EVERY cornerback is best suited as a nickel.
So true
Looks like some of the Lions hate from Florio has rubbed off onto Chris Simms. Almost every NFL Draft pundit had Arnold ranked as a top 3 CB in this draft. But Simms doesn't have him on his top 5 corners list? BH and MCD aren't drink the Kool-aid, but Simms is...Let's see who's right by late next season..
Simms was on this wave pre draft. He sticks to his guns
I’ve never been a fan of Simms. First as a player and then as an analyst. Florio and Simms might be one of the worst duos currently. Maybe even ever.
Bengals nailed exactly what they wanted and all within reason. loved the Bengals draft
Calling the Bengals picks poor is either complete bias or complete ignorance.
Complete incompetence as to knowledge of the players drafted
I’ll go with Ignorant
a few will be hit or miss but i think overall we did good
can immediately tell chris has never watched a single second of rakestraw playing football. hes an outside corner lmfao.
Arnold and Rakestraw both played mostly outside CB in college Sims doesn’t even give a reason why he sees them as inside CBs
He probably hasn’t watched them play like that. Never heard anyone say they are better as a nickel lol
They both have just passable 40 times. Maybe that’s why.
@@roems6396 40 times are WAY overrated, teams have access to gps calculated top game speeds.
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Sure, they are overrated mostly. Except probably the one position where the time matters most is at CB. It used to be thought that a WR’s 40 was the most important stat. But we now know that their ability to gain separation, along with their hands, is more important. But a CB needs to be able to get back into position if that receiver gains separation, and for that they need speed. It is still overrated, but it does matter some for CBs.
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And I’m simply playing devils advocate anyways. I’m not saying this is a good reason.
Tell me you’re a new bengals fan without telling me.. you obviously weren’t there for the years of pain
I’ve been a bengals fan since I was 12 got made fun off for years till I was a grown up now I’m 27 and finally we doing it
I've been a Bengals fan since their second super bowl. I was young watching that exciting season, and I love this draft. I think we got some real steals and value. We'll just have to see.
Lions here buddy. Feel your pain
@@bryanguerrero1101consider yourself lucky lol you became a fan during a good time compared to what I grew up with lol
@bryanguerrero1101 you wasn't around bad football dude 😂
Terrion arnold will kill on the outside. Just one guy I think Chris has wrong.
Who Dey!
Chris, if you didn't think Arnold can play on the outside - they should not have drafted him. THAT would make this a BAD draft for the lions in your opinion.
That’s a hilariously bad take on his part. 😂
What is with Chris Simms's Hitler youth haircut?!
I commented on it in another thread... I don't know that I've ever seen a 0-Fade AND a side part. Looks weird when it's a fresh cut. Kinda reminds me of Sling Blade.
Munoz fell to the Bengals because he couldn't stay on the feild in college
i got a feeling mims will be the next munoz then again im not a big fan of pollack hope frank don't ruin his career
Arnold wasn’t one of your top 5 corners???????????
Gotta tune out Chris sims. He’s always generally high on Brad Holmes drafts, but he also called Levi Onwuzurike the best DT in the 2021 draft.
chris has one of the worst overall hit rates out of any of the talking heads out there.
Simms had DJ James ahead of Arnold. James was drafted in the 6th. Go figure
Why does chris simms have a podcast? Oh wait because of his of dad lol
No Chris. Brad got T Arnold because he was his guy. Not because GB wanted him.
and he didn't want someone trading back into the 1st to take him before 29. It was worth it to make sure that didn't happen again (like losing Witherspoon last year when Seattle took him one spot in front of the Lions).
Think he was saying why he moved up not why he drafted him
Another guy that is flying under the radar is one of the Bengals 6th round picks the Edge rusher out of Ole Miss Cedric Johnson. 6’3’’ 260 lbs 33.5’’ arms 10 inch hands 4.63 40 yard dash 38 inch vertical 10’ 2’’ broad jump and 25 reps on the bench press. He is a dam good players. And only 21 years old. When he gets a chance he is going to blow up.
Ready for the Bengals to use jumbo sets 😂
Jermaine Burton played with a running qb if he played with Bryce Young his numbers would have been double
Chris Simms = worst opinions in the NFL
He’s Burton led Alabama in receiving yards and TDs this year. He is only 21. 6’1’’ 196 lbs. runs 4.45 with a 39 inch vertical. Those numbers are far better that Tyler Boyd’s. Boyd ran a 4.58 with a 34 inch verical. What was one of the things Boyd was known for? Not dropping balls. Burton didn’t drop a pass at all last year. Not 1.
As a bengals fan, I would have liked a day 3 running back or guard but overall very happy with the draft
we got chase brown and zack moss
we don't need a RB especially since bengals don't use them much, i definitely wish we got a day 3 guard though
Right on… Jermaine plug and play… Mims is a monster etc. etc.
Kris Jenkins was the 2nd best run defending DT in the Country last year and was good at it in 2022 as well. So he is ascending. That nose tackle
Jackson that they got he was the 2nd best NT prospect in the draft and they got him
At the end of round 3. After
Sweat it was Jackson. Is psyched about Jackson I think he is a really good player. RAS is not a big deal for nose tackles. They ALL have a low RAS. For instance DJ Readers RAS coming out of Clemson was 2.01. McKinley Jackson’s RAS is 4.98. That incredible for a NT. That’s almost as good as Dexter Lawrence who is the most athletic NT ever. Oh and I wish they had gotten Cade Stover the TE from Ohio State but Erik All and McLaughlin have the potential to be our future TE1. So disappointed we passed
On Stover and Beaux Limmer
But I like the guys they got. Oh and I LOVE Cedric Johnson. He will provide some immediate juice off the edge. I think they will have e to carry 6 DEs this year or Cam Sample will
Maybe have to go to the practice squad. I would trade him because he is a good player but I’d rather keep him. Ossai is t going anywhere. He is primed
To have a huge year.
imagine a bengals vs lions super bowl "battle of the cats" that would be nice!
My two favorite teams since the late 80s. Would be so conflicted all game long! But I was born in Cincy, so it has the slight edge.
The Bengals had a good draft. Now I would have taken Javon Baker the WR from UCF before Burton but the Bengals really love and believe in Burton. I trust them especially when it comes to WR’s. Name
The last WR bust the Bengals
Drafted. You would have to go back to over 20
Years ago. Amarius Mims is not a bust. He is a future super star. You know in 1980 people
We’re all irate that the Bengals drafted Anthony Munoz out
Of USC because he was hurt a lot in College and only played 12 games. Yea how did that work out for the Bengals? Mims just needs reps. He will get some
This year but even more
Importantly he gets to sit behind Trent Brown this year and learn how to be a pro tackle. Trent Brown and
Orlando Brown are both huge humans. So is Mims. And I don’t
Know if you have seen Mims up close but he carry’s 0 pounds of
Bad weight. The dudes body fat is around 10%. He is fucking jacked!! No bad weight at all! And I think they should have drafted that center out
Of Arkansas Beaux Limmer but Matt Lee was my next choice. He is extremlu athletic. 9.48 RAS for Lee. Mims RAS is 9.53. But when you are his size you don’t even have to be a good athlete. Just ask Orlando Brown and Trent Brown. They win with size power and technique. Mims had size power is learning technique
And he has athleticism. He will be a Pro Bowler or All Pro in the next 3 years. And I also wish they would have gotten one of
The CB’s from Auburn but I like
Josh Newton too and he was just drafted for depth.
While I'm agreeing with you on virtually everything you said, you don't have to look that far in the past to find a bust at WR, specifically John Ross taken 9th overall 🤢 but yes historically speaking Bengals develop receivers very well. Excited to see Burton play this year
No love for the lions there.
Jordan Mailata is exactly who comes to mind with Giovanni Manu
If the Chiefs got Mims they would be hailed as geniuses
McKinley Jackson is a 6’2’’ 330 lb Nose Tackle who can push the pocket and rush the passer. Jenkins had a lot of pressures I. College. They are both stand out run defenders. They will be coached they will get better at rushing the passer.
Reader was a 4th rounder, wasn't he and Atkins was a 3rd. I really like the Jenkins/ Jackson combo
The BC BEAST Gio Manu makes Amarius Mims look small lol, AND tested better 🤪
F for the Bengals?😂😂😂😂😂😂. NOBODY else has it worse than a B.
That's obviously somebody sitting in his basement hoping Bengal haters subscribe. Why don't I ask my 11 yo grandson? 😂😂😂
Who would have drafted Arnold, are you joking? Greenbay, duh. Watch Tom Grossi meltdown over the Lion's jumping GB (like we did last year for Branch) to snag Arnold, and you'll have a better clue there, Chris.
Oh what a suprise, Chris Simms has something negative to say about the Lions. I have a good feeling the Packers were going to take Arnold at 25. Even if they didn't, who is to say somebody doesn't jump the Lions to get him. He is arguably the best CB in the draft, and they got him at 24! I'm guessing the Lions organization did something to you at some point and that is why you dislike us so much? W/E
Please switch teams. Tired of listening to to idiots crying about draft picks.. 31% of first round draft picks get a second contract by the team who drafted them. It’s a complete crap shoot..
That means there’s a 69% chance whoever you wanted your team to pick is going to suck.. There’s like 10 a year that’s truly unquestionable second contract players.. prob less
Arnold and rakestraw both in the nickel…since when? I don’t think simms watches any tape on these college kids. Also gb and Tampa would’ve both taken Arnold for sure. Read the room ffs.
I remember Simms getting into a game for the Broncos and throwing up all over himself. Every time he’s critical of players, that’s what I see. A guy who couldn’t play dead in a Western.
I'm literally only listening because it's lions talk in May. Simms is NOT a football smart guy, he is a BSer and loves his own voice. He talks like he is a GM, it's funny.
A couple flags against Braden Fiske. He is 24 years old already and he only has 31 inch arms. Exactly 31 inch arms. If you are a d lineman and have arms shorter than 32 inches that can be a problem.
Draft value being brought up again with Brad Holmes? Really? Last year’s draft class didn’t teach you anything, huh?
From a 35-year diehard Bengals fanatic, I thought it was a great draft.
Kris Jenkins should know how to be a pro from his father and i expect big things
Why does chris always dis the lions everyone graded detroit no less then a b in the draft most gave them a A
A consensus top 10 big board pick who played the majority of his snaps on the outside. 2/3’s of his snaps. Simms is a 🤡!
@ football picks has obviously got some issues with those type of comments. WHO-DEY!!!
Chris Simms betting against Brad Holmes. Lol If I were to set the line on that bet it would be Holmes -1000
It's always nice that Simms will cover the Lions, since Florio boycotts them at every opportunity.
Chris is a Hater
He just mad the Lions whoop the Rams and the Bucs in the Playoffs last year…
Well it’s fun for all the fans and media to say every pick of every team is good and going to be great etc but it never works out that way
if they were talking about the steelers on this you would be saying exactly what you just typed about get for real...whodey... yall squeelers did do good in draft though i won't hate
Mckinnley jackson was an obvious bad pick should have been traded either up or down
1000% correct on comments re: Mike Sainristil. An absolute baller!
I ♥the Bengals draft class!! LET'S GO, BABY!!
Arnold is a outside guy saben even said it put Arnold on the outside put branch in the slot
If last year is any indication, Chris not loving the Lions draft is a good sign.
You can see intelligence isn’t a strength of the Simms genetic pool.
Sims working hard to take a jab at the Lions.
Chris Simms was mediocre at his best at QB 🤷
Pac-man jones runied my childhood
I like my Bengals but we needed a guard. Erik all is good but he could've waited
This was not a guard rich draft and after All the drop off was pretty big. Don't think they wanted to chance losing him. I like the pick.
I like Tyler Davis out of Clemson. I loved Beaux Limmer the center out of Arkansas. He led
The combine in the bench press. He put up 39 reps.
Tell em’ Chris
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how great of a screen name SeventhEvan is?
My 3 favorite picks of the Lions are there last 2. Both 6th round picks. Mekhi Wingo is a baller at DT and Christian Mahogany is a starting offensive guard from day 1 if you want. He will takes some lumps but after 10
Games of starting he will
Start playing better. So they got a day one starter at Guard with their last pick. Wingo is 6’1’’ 295 lbs. which is the perfect size for an3 tech Defensive tackle. Terrion Arnold will be a Pro Bowl nickel CB. I agree with Chris that he doesn’t have the speed to play outside CB in the NFL.
I like Christian Mahogany, but a day 1 starter? I'm not sure he'll ever be a starter (unless injuries take him to the top of the depth chart).
@footballpicks is a steeler troll DUHHHH
Well, it takes 3 years. It is a balance.
None of this matters until we see it on the field. Take what the Falcons did and how dumb most people think it was to take Penix. Now imagine Atlanta going on a long playoff run with Penix replacing a injured Cousins and now that pick looks awesome.
It's all a crapshoot. A game of inches you might say😂
Mims played 8 games in 3 years. Check out Nick Saban's comments about Mims. Injury prone & no heart. Will be a bust. Needed two picks, 2 & 4 to replace D J Reader. Pick #3 Burton, has " maturity issues", punched a woman. Pick #4 a TE who had major back surgery. Set out a year. Returned in 2023 only to tear his ACL in October. Will not be healthy to play until ? Did not address the Guard position where Cordell has been a sieve & the backups even worse. "Need to coach them up & Drafting for the future". Bengals Super Bowl window is now closed
I don't love the Lions draft
Bengals flunked the draft for sure
Way to skip over talking about sione vaki when talking about the lions draft. He is going to be a weapon for sure. Hope he sees it uses this as fuel to come out hard this year!
Simms take on Lions draft should be made into a public service announcement warning the dangers of too much bud
worse haircut ever