One of my all time favorites and “go to’s”. It’s actually been banned for a time in my club. Not from injuries, but from people cherry picking it over harder more technical throws that get air 😂
Loving the content Still new to Judo and 100% have the bug I have trained in so many sports and kicboxed at a decent level. But nothing has beat me up like Randori Love this Channel
I use this throw (or at least the principle) in MMA/No gi while holding onto my opponent from the back (body lock...around the waist). It is a super easy way to take them down and end up on top..Thanks again! Uss!
Main rule is domt drop ur weight on the side of them because they fall with u sideways and their knee will bend sideways to the outside in a drection it dont bend, gotta behimd the knee and drop with him backwards so he falls with his knee just bending backwards the normal way i love this move when trying to get hip to hip if i camt get the hip throw or to counter a hip throw or even use it to gently take someone down cuz when u do it u can control their ppsture and bend it backwards to slowly bring them down
Thank you so much for the video. I enjoy your calm, profound and solid way of showing the technique. I wonder what previous movements of the person being thrown with this technique makes you chose this throw over another? Best wishes. Henry
@@nickyonezuka-cranfordjkc4931 When I was young ... I used to have hours and hours of training where I have to fake a tai otoshi or uchimata as an entrance and to get my tani worked. We tried to initiate & create the momentum to have my final tani otoshi. Indeed, I agree with Mr. Florian Muller regarding your calm and solid way to teach your students got my attention. Oss.
I have had my MCL sprained twice as well as my ankle once from "tani o toshi" done improperly. I put the technique in quotation becaue when it's done improperly It really isn't tani o toshi.. It goes wrong when Tori sits/blocks Uke's leg and throws perpendicular to the knee joint producing a valgus force on the joint... sort of like a "drop" ura nage (yes I know that's not a thing, that's why it gets people injured) In worst case scenarios you can tear the MCL, PCL and ACL all from one horribly executed and carelessly done "technique"..
only guaranteed safe way of doing tani otoshi is to not block the knee or leg at all. if you watch tokio hirano do it in the old black and white videos, and the kodokan videos. there's no blocking at all with the leg, purpose of that leg is just to help you sit your weight down with a baseball slide.
My favorite video on this is the reference from the Kodokan youtube channel itself: ua-cam.com/video/3b9Me3Fohpk/v-deo.html . Even less danger of dropping weight on the knee, and illustrates the actual otoshi mechanic going on.
One of my all time favorites and “go to’s”. It’s actually been banned for a time in my club. Not from injuries, but from people cherry picking it over harder more technical throws that get air 😂
I used to always consider this a beginner's technique but after seeing a few videos of things going wrong it gives you a new impression
Loving the content
Still new to Judo and 100% have the bug
I have trained in so many sports and kicboxed at a decent level. But nothing has beat me up like Randori
Love this Channel
Like your explanations very much, thx!
I use this throw (or at least the principle) in MMA/No gi while holding onto my opponent from the back (body lock...around the waist). It is a super easy way to take them down and end up on top..Thanks again! Uss!
Judo Kate had her knee pop with this. Good to know how to do and teach safely.
Thanks Nick. That’s really important.
Awesome explanation. Thanks
Thanks a lot! That what I needed.
Good advice 👍
Main rule is domt drop ur weight on the side of them because they fall with u sideways and their knee will bend sideways to the outside in a drection it dont bend, gotta behimd the knee and drop with him backwards so he falls with his knee just bending backwards the normal way i love this move when trying to get hip to hip if i camt get the hip throw or to counter a hip throw or even use it to gently take someone down cuz when u do it u can control their ppsture and bend it backwards to slowly bring them down
Very nice 👍
Does uki land on your hand when doing this
Thank you so much for the video. I enjoy your calm, profound and solid way of showing the technique. I wonder what previous movements of the person being thrown with this technique makes you chose this throw over another? Best wishes. Henry
It’s all in the fake. Fake uchimata to get his reaction, then hit the Tani to the back
@@nickyonezuka-cranfordjkc4931 When I was young ... I used to have hours and hours of training where I have to fake a tai otoshi or uchimata as an entrance and to get my tani worked. We tried to initiate & create the momentum to have my final tani otoshi. Indeed, I agree with Mr. Florian Muller regarding your calm and solid way to teach your students got my attention. Oss.
Hi! Love your content. Can you show a no gi version of this throw. Thank you, and keep up the good work.
Do the same thing except with an overhook and a grip on the far wrist. Might be better if the back of your overhook hand is on his chest.
so if you shouldnt go for the near leg, does that mean kosoto gake is equally unsafe?
Nice 👍
I have had my MCL sprained twice as well as my ankle once from "tani o toshi" done improperly. I put the technique in quotation becaue when it's done improperly It really isn't tani o toshi..
It goes wrong when Tori sits/blocks Uke's leg and throws perpendicular to the knee joint producing a valgus force on the joint... sort of like a "drop" ura nage (yes I know that's not a thing, that's why it gets people injured) In worst case scenarios you can tear the MCL, PCL and ACL all from one horribly executed and carelessly done "technique"..
only guaranteed safe way of doing tani otoshi is to not block the knee or leg at all. if you watch tokio hirano do it in the old black and white videos, and the kodokan videos. there's no blocking at all with the leg, purpose of that leg is just to help you sit your weight down with a baseball slide.
Yes, if you notice how I did it with the far leg , I don’t hook or make much contact, just focus on direction
Video showing this?
@@SouthBayEngr look up the official kodokan video, and tokio hirano doing it. there's no leg blocking at all
Ive not once gone for the close leg... guess Ive been doing it this way all along
My favorite video on this is the reference from the Kodokan youtube channel itself: ua-cam.com/video/3b9Me3Fohpk/v-deo.html . Even less danger of dropping weight on the knee, and illustrates the actual otoshi mechanic going on.
I like this technique, but can you finish a fight with this?
Depends on how the other person can fall (or how mean you throw them ...) and what you do next (top position etc.). Best Regards
Unless you bounce someone’s head off the floor you should not rely on throws to finish the fight. Stomps will do that tho after the throw
The most effective throw in judo hmm,are you sure about that ?
Hmm, did you even watch the video ? Never said that and it’s not in the title so I’m a little confused