Important note for context on the number of cards printed since there's 350 cards this year vs 330 last, total number of base cards is around 314.8 million this year compared to 414.5 million in 2023, so that's 100 million total base cards less, or about a 24% reduction. That seems quite significant, but do know cards per pack are lower now and cards per hanger box are 59 now compared to 67, so Fanatics is still getting their money with price increases.
Your data is based on box odds, but probably doesn't include future releases for Topps Series 1 configurations like Team Set blister packs or Complete Set's later this year.
You used to get 5 golds per hobby box (2019) and I think now you are not guaranteed 1 per hobby box. Meanwhile the price keeps going up. The value of opening product is just not there anymore.
One weird thing to note, the Silver Pack 35 year stamp still says 1988-2023. Not sure if that will affect anything as I feel its too late to change them now.
I really like this years design and the semi-foil aesthetics of the cards. I bought a few retail boxes to satisfy my needs to open new packs. I won't be buying anymore because it seems Topps increased the print run this year because we still haven't seen Team Set packs or full set boxes released yet.
Agreed across the board, overall good design and happy to see some regression in print runs. Would just like to see fewer parallels, but that might be me
You didnt mention the Celebration of the Kid subset. Those inserts are 5 and 6 bucks on Ebay right now. 24 card set all with Griffey in various stages of his career in the classic 89 topps design.
Are you a Colorado fan? I pulled a rookie on card auto of Ryan McMahon " Congratulations you have received a 35th Anniversary 1983 Topps baseball autograph card from 2018 Topps". I'm not tryin to unload it but what do you think of the player? I got it in a hobby box so I might have got a relic card instead and I'm happy about that.
Pulled a green foilboard Marco Luciano and a handful of the top 3 rookies yesterday. Independence Day looks sick in person and only a few cards were in bad shape. Sadly a Gelof was one of the casualties.
Also another problem for 2024 topps is for set builders who want to build a master set has gotten more impossible to build each year which is causing more and more set builders to give up. Big gamble trying to find each product big hit. I guess with tic tok age people have short attention spands and they need huge excitement to release endorphins each passing year as well. In the 1950s completing a 300 card set I could imagine without the stimulation of the internet, TV, ect I am guessing the excitement of completing a baseball set was a happiness not experienced today :)
Off subject but I'd say yr the one to ask,do u have any idea of how many 1st Bowman auto base cards are made? I think /499 is highest #d ones, and I wonder if it varies per player or years made,just curious Thanks
It would be cool if you did a "what each product should cost" section as well. $175 is way too high for the jumbos. I've been seeing 1 to 2 numbered cards in each. The hobby's are even worse at $100. I believe guys like you would be doing a great service for the hobby by informing people what they should realistically be paying instead of breakers justifying the cost with the ceiling of extremely hard pulls. Thanks for the video!
Demand is what drives price. There is no what it "should" cost. Simple economics will always dictate actual price, whether you agree with it or not. If you don't like the price then don't buy. If others are buying it, the price won't come down. Silly request
Do the Golden Mirrors still have a print run of 150? And what is the print run of the True Photo? I could’ve sworn that was also 150 but I can’t find anything about it
So glad Junior Caminero doesn't have a RC in this set aside from the silver pack mojo as I am sitting on a PSA 9 (10 for auto) Green #/99. It is unfortunate however that it appears the Rays are going to start him off in the minors unless he blazes through spring training.
Sticker Auto is where the player autographs a clear see thru sticker that comes in sheets then gets thrown on a card meaning the player never touched the card & they can put the players autos on any cards they want. While on-card autos are exactly that, cards touched & signed in person by player. People prefer on-card autos
I started with flagship and will always pick some up every year. No its not gonna pad your 401k ... but that also isn't what the hobby started as much as every card bro would like to believe.
Well a month out, the hidden gems are indeed there. No one has mentioned the shrinkflation ( fewer cards per pack in some formats like jumbo -15%, fewer packs per display and hobby box, etc which accounts for print run of cards less, but boxes made about the same, and srp up. ) The " first card " screw up. No first card on front, 1/1 inverted on back. And I have yet to see any of the promipised Soto and Othani base sp's in their new uniforms. FANATICS has screwed something up every year. Plus the unannounced parallels in their own marked blasters. Screwy year so far. Plus after a jumbo, 6 fat packs, 2 blasters, and 2 hangers, I am still 8 cards short of a base set. Unbelievable.
It’s a nice little product. Some fun inserts. Little splash of color. But it is what it is. A cheap product meant to amuse the collector with limited resources. It isn’t Chrome, or even Bowman, and to most price points it is a waste of money.
26 different paras plus sps plus ssps plus inserts plus all other relics/autos patches topps becoming panini its getting ridiculous it is around 3500 different versions of EVERY card
I used to buy cases of cards to rip and I have only opened two boxes since 2019 because price went up to high. You was able to get topps hobby boxes for $60 to $75 and Jumbo hobby between $80 and 150. I was just buying singles off of ebay however now I am 99.9 vintage cards and wrestling just because it is a stable market and I would cry if i spent hundreds of dollars on a card and the value went down to $5, I do not think I could look at myself in the mirror taking losses like that. I am not a gambler though unless we are at a card table playing texas holdem face to face.
Not worth it imo. Print runs are only an estimate based on odds. I'd bet its higher than what you claim. Just more worthless parallels at an increased cost. I'll wait for 24 Chrome and the possiblity of Holliday and Honey Nut Chourio in the mix.
I just gave up sports cards and life is stress free! No more flipping, holding, hoping for value…No more spending $249 and getting $117 worth of value. Try it. Sell your stuff for what you can and never look back. The industry is gonna crash hard again. Name five singles that aren’t numbered or SSP/auto/ that will be able to sell out of this product for $5 that aren’t named Elly, Wemby, or Stroud If you’re new…Run away
There’s only 3 rookies that might be good the rest are who are they besides that I’m disappointed for a flag ship product that they aren’t creative and no more other hits.
The base cards look like trash, they don’t look new, they look like they were from the 1980s with the black and neon colors. I’ve always hated the 1980s look and feel. Also the other cards don’t look that great either, it just doesn’t shout “cool and collectable”
Important note for context on the number of cards printed since there's 350 cards this year vs 330 last, total number of base cards is around 314.8 million this year compared to 414.5 million in 2023, so that's 100 million total base cards less, or about a 24% reduction. That seems quite significant, but do know cards per pack are lower now and cards per hanger box are 59 now compared to 67, so Fanatics is still getting their money with price increases.
Shrinkflation
Your data is based on box odds, but probably doesn't include future releases for Topps Series 1 configurations like Team Set blister packs or Complete Set's later this year.
idk about those numbers
appreciate all the hard work and analysis you do for us!
Your insights are always spot-on. Yet another fantastic video, big thanks!
It looks like a fun set. I love the full picture sp and the base cards have a pretty cool design
The design looks pretty nice!
I like the Team color match border! As a Reds fan, finding Cincinnati Reds cards with a Red border gets difficult!
My son and I just pulled an Elly the other day!!!😊😊
Great insights as always Scottie!
You used to get 5 golds per hobby box (2019) and I think now you are not guaranteed 1 per hobby box. Meanwhile the price keeps going up. The value of opening product is just not there anymore.
2022 update was the last good flagship release
Right! When those golds are in the dollar bins
i opened hobby boxes of topps flagship 2021 n 2022 and not one parallel ha
Increases the value of the cards though…that’s a good thing
@@jennatailss How do you figure that?
One weird thing to note, the Silver Pack 35 year stamp still says 1988-2023. Not sure if that will affect anything as I feel its too late to change them now.
Dude, that was a solid video! Thanks!
What's the name of the song you use for your intro and outro? That guitar lick gets stuck in my head haha
I pulled an on card auto of Heston Kjerstad on the base 1989 insert. I believe I'm going to hold on to it for a bit to see how he turns out
He's playing??
Great summary! Might have to open a box!
I opened 2 jumbo boxes. I like the design. It seemed to be light on color/ numbered.
I really like this years design and the semi-foil aesthetics of the cards. I bought a few retail boxes to satisfy my needs to open new packs. I won't be buying anymore because it seems Topps increased the print run this year because we still haven't seen Team Set packs or full set boxes released yet.
Love your insight. Another awesome video...thanks.
I have a wrapper from 2011 update there was 1 gold in every 3 packs back then 🤣
Good summary. Getting my jumbo tomorrow. Hopefully I get the big 3 bases and at least one of them in a parallel.
2:15 is a good spot to mark if you are opening this product, but aren't sure who to set aside.
Oh man those HFAs look amazing!
Great analysis
Agreed across the board, overall good design and happy to see some regression in print runs. Would just like to see fewer parallels, but that might be me
I think this design looks badass. Gives me a sports bar vibe. Excited to see the Topps Chrome cards
You didnt mention the Celebration of the Kid subset. Those inserts are 5 and 6 bucks on Ebay right now. 24 card set all with Griffey in various stages of his career in the classic 89 topps design.
Are you a Colorado fan? I pulled a rookie on card auto of Ryan McMahon " Congratulations you have received a 35th Anniversary 1983 Topps baseball autograph card from 2018 Topps". I'm not tryin to unload it but what do you think of the player? I got it in a hobby box so I might have got a relic card instead and I'm happy about that.
Pulled a green foilboard Marco Luciano and a handful of the top 3 rookies yesterday. Independence Day looks sick in person and only a few cards were in bad shape. Sadly a Gelof was one of the casualties.
*2 hobby boxes, 0 auto’s, one patch, one bat relic
Not good, especially if you live on a budget and collect only.
Also another problem for 2024 topps is for set builders who want to build a master set has gotten more impossible to build each year which is causing more and more set builders to give up. Big gamble trying to find each product big hit. I guess with tic tok age people have short attention spands and they need huge excitement to release endorphins each passing year as well. In the 1950s completing a 300 card set I could imagine without the stimulation of the internet, TV, ect I am guessing the excitement of completing a baseball set was a happiness not experienced today :)
thank you for your work!
Any idea on print run on the HFA ?
Do you know the print run on the silver mojo cards?
I'm so glad they made 10s harder to get with these!
Anyone know if Donruss baseball will have team names/logos in there card photos?
I think DONRUSS may be a thing of the past, my friend. That was the word on the street a few months ago. We shall see!
No they are not licensed, no current players or team logos
Off subject but I'd say yr the one to ask,do u have any idea of how many 1st Bowman auto base cards are made? I think /499 is highest #d ones, and I wonder if it varies per player or years made,just curious Thanks
It would be cool if you did a "what each product should cost" section as well. $175 is way too high for the jumbos. I've been seeing 1 to 2 numbered cards in each. The hobby's are even worse at $100. I believe guys like you would be doing a great service for the hobby by informing people what they should realistically be paying instead of breakers justifying the cost with the ceiling of extremely hard pulls. Thanks for the video!
Demand is what drives price. There is no what it "should" cost. Simple economics will always dictate actual price, whether you agree with it or not. If you don't like the price then don't buy. If others are buying it, the price won't come down. Silly request
I'm pretty sure that "First Card" on the Elly is an insert set.
Do the Golden Mirrors still have a print run of 150? And what is the print run of the True Photo? I could’ve sworn that was also 150 but I can’t find anything about it
Wondering the same.
Thanks for all your research. I did notice on the Topps website the Topps blaster is up a penny to an even $25. Bad move Topps.
So glad Junior Caminero doesn't have a RC in this set aside from the silver pack mojo as I am sitting on a PSA 9 (10 for auto) Green #/99. It is unfortunate however that it appears the Rays are going to start him off in the minors unless he blazes through spring training.
The True photo cards are cool, but basically just stadium club at that point. Still gonna buy a bunch of Mariners singles though!
What do you think about Yohandy Morales?
I got a Hestin Kjerstad rookie throwback auto that isnt a sticker auto.
You also have Jordan Lawlar and Pete crow Armstrong who are too 15 prospects
wasnt ellie a rookie last year or did he not play full year?
The base are amazing! Pictures don't do the cards justice. The neon is metallic and pops off the card.
Retail blaster, 5 parallels, and Game Materials Gunner Henderson. I will take it
I have a dumb question. What are sticker autos vs. on-card autos?
Sticker Auto is where the player autographs a clear see thru sticker that comes in sheets then gets thrown on a card meaning the player never touched the card & they can put the players autos on any cards they want. While on-card autos are exactly that, cards touched & signed in person by player. People prefer on-card autos
I got an elly from the silver pack and was expecting his silver rookies to go for more than $30 unfortunate
Anyone know the print run on golden mirror? Still around 150?
The true photo variation is what I want stadium club to be, just focus on cool pictures
Is it worth buying these cards off Amazon??
i do like the design the chromes are gonna look really nice but doubt ill buy any
I just want Taco-fractors!
I started with flagship and will always pick some up every year. No its not gonna pad your 401k ... but that also isn't what the hobby started as much as every card bro would like to believe.
Dang I don't think ive ever been this early to any video
I really like this year's design a lot. On the other hand, the Easter parallels look like trash (much like the Halloween parallels did).
Looks like Topps didn't update the 35th anniversary stamp on the mojo silver pack cards. It says 1988-2023 instead of 1989-2024. Oops!!!
you mentioned clear isnt there a platinum too
Great entry level product for kids and new (and old) collectors. Not a good investment product. All good if you look through this lens at the product.
Well a month out, the hidden gems are indeed there. No one has mentioned the shrinkflation ( fewer cards per pack in some formats like jumbo -15%, fewer packs per display and hobby box, etc which accounts for print run of cards less, but boxes made about the same, and srp up. ) The " first card " screw up. No first card on front, 1/1 inverted on back. And I have yet to see any of the promipised Soto and Othani base sp's in their new uniforms. FANATICS has screwed something up every year. Plus the unannounced parallels in their own marked blasters. Screwy year so far. Plus after a jumbo, 6 fat packs, 2 blasters, and 2 hangers, I am still 8 cards short of a base set. Unbelievable.
New Rockies hat? Doesn't look perfectly broken in like your other.
"hey guys its scott from scottie B Cards"
well no duh haha you aint running a company with tons of staff 😂😂😂
I just pulled the Shohei 1/1 foilboard Megastars today! 😮
It’s a nice little product. Some fun inserts. Little splash of color. But it is what it is. A cheap product meant to amuse the collector with limited resources. It isn’t Chrome, or even Bowman, and to most price points it is a waste of money.
26 different paras plus sps plus ssps plus inserts plus all other relics/autos patches topps becoming panini its getting ridiculous it is around 3500 different versions of EVERY card
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I used to buy cases of cards to rip and I have only opened two boxes since 2019 because price went up to high. You was able to get topps hobby boxes for $60 to $75 and Jumbo hobby between $80 and 150. I was just buying singles off of ebay however now I am 99.9 vintage cards and wrestling just because it is a stable market and I would cry if i spent hundreds of dollars on a card and the value went down to $5, I do not think I could look at myself in the mirror taking losses like that. I am not a gambler though unless we are at a card table playing texas holdem face to face.
That rookie class blows
People been waiting on Elly a few years now
Those new Fanatics Jersey (patches) will look AWFUL in trading cards
Not worth it imo. Print runs are only an estimate based on odds. I'd bet its higher than what you claim. Just more worthless parallels at an increased cost. I'll wait for 24 Chrome and the possiblity of Holliday and Honey Nut Chourio in the mix.
I never seem to pull anything good out of topps. Ever. Lol
You can buy most of the singles you’d want for cheaper than one box, why open any? Sure it’s fun, until you realize you’ve just burned money
Just like gambling don't spend what you can't afford. 😊
If you want to make money on cards, forget it. Buy stocks instead!
I just gave up sports cards and life is stress free! No more flipping, holding, hoping for value…No more spending $249 and getting $117 worth of value.
Try it. Sell your stuff for what you can and never look back.
The industry is gonna crash hard again. Name five singles that aren’t numbered or SSP/auto/ that will be able to sell out of this product for $5 that aren’t named Elly, Wemby, or Stroud
If you’re new…Run away
Agree. We're in a new junk parallel wax era. I'm focusing on 90s inserts of my guy Kobe
@@chrisc4264 Love it
There’s only 3 rookies that might be good the rest are who are they besides that I’m disappointed for a flag ship product that they aren’t creative and no more other hits.
Trash product 😂
Too many parallels and “case hits”
Heres the break down - its hot garbage and save your money 🤷♂️
Never buy Topps Series 1 of any year they all suck and waste of money
Save your money with this over printed slop-buy a few to rip-otherwise just buy established stars in their 20’s rookie cards
The base cards look like trash, they don’t look new, they look like they were from the 1980s with the black and neon colors. I’ve always hated the 1980s look and feel. Also the other cards don’t look that great either, it just doesn’t shout “cool and collectable”
I’m not buying this overpriced garbage