When doing a video like this why not spend the $30 and put the same (new) head on each. The Ludwig's head is dead...you can hear it choke. Like comparing two steaks one is a one-day-old leftover and another spent a week in the fridge...just make 2 fresh ones if you are going to compare them. $30...tune them to the resonant frequency of the shell and then compare them again....my two cents.
Currently have the Bell brass USA, but am very curious about the BB. Have always heard great things about the BB, but, yeah, I guess both are killer snares.
The Gretch Bell Brass makes most snares seem inadequate. Every time I play mine I honestly consider selling off most of my snares. But having a variety of snares is the collectible aspect of being a drummer. I’m actually considering getting a Yamaha Recording Custom Brass 14 x 6.5 as they’re every bit as good as the Black Beauties.
Both great drums! The Gretsch has warmer (lower) overtones compared to the BB. Listen closely as each drum decays, listen for the final overtone, you can definitely hear a difference. Neither is better, just different. Great video!
At that tuning I prefer the Gretsch. I'd love to hear a comparison at different tunings. Drums of similar size made of different materials definitely have resonances that are better are some frequencies and less impressive at others. Need both of these.
I own both drums and I can say that the gretsch does everything the black beauty will do and more. It is the best snare I’ve ever played and owned hands down. And I dont say that lightly, the black beauty is an incredible snare.
did you have a chance to compare the bell brass with the phosphor bronze? i still can not make the choise between the two. on one hand posph bro tends to have more bottom end and seems to be a bit closer to TAMA BB. but it sounds more hollow and even cispy comparing with bell brass. what do you think?
You have to play a cast bronze snare in person to appreciate it fully. I say if you have a chance to get one wether it's a Tama, Gretch, Sonor or have a custom shell built by Duluth or the other artisan cast bronze builders don't pass it up. Just get one if you can!
Both sound great! Would use both for different applications. The Black Beauty's thinner shell will enable it to take on much lower-pitched tunings vs the Bell Brass. I would use the bell brass for music that needs the snare to establish more body in the mix.
wow, i have BB, that specific version, and i love it, used for Reggaa/Jazz music. that grestch rock it totally. use the Gretsch or BB is just for your choice, both of them are totally great snares. greetings from Costa Rica
I don't think that Gretsch is a sand cast shell. I think it is rolled. At least that's what I heard Gretsch say about it. And their website doesn't say that it's cast either.
From the information from Gretsch, their bell brass snares come with the 42 strand snare wires. Not sure if this particular one has that. But after listening to lots of these bell brass and bell bronze videos, and having a Ludwig COB myself for years.... if a metal drum needs 42 snare wires, something is not right. Just my opinion.
Both sound great. I've played a Black Beauty for many years. I play Gretsch drums (Broadkasters) and love my Broadkaster snare. But, damn, as far as snares go.....I LOVE my BB.
I'm looking for a new snare for my Gretsch Broadkaster. I absolutely love the toms and the kick, but I am having a hard time falling in love with the snare. It's "fine", but I think I need a metal shell snare to complete the kit. I have a handful of different snares, but I'm lacking the "Pang!" of the two drums in the video. There are just too many choices.
@@freethinksman4393 I have a bunch of different snares. All have different qualities and sounds. But, the Ludwig Black Beauty "floats like a butterfly & stings like a bee." I love both wood and metal snares. Both have their applications. Try tuning the Broadkaster high or medium high.
I'm a hard hitter and none of my 12 snares (or drums) stay in tune. There is only two products that really work for that. I tried pretty much everything on the market. The Pearl Spin Tight Tension Rod is a marvel of engineering and works almost perfectly. Almost because the inner red srew will unscrew slowly but it gives you the time to secure it before the real tension rod unscrew. You can keep your tuning!! I still feel it's the best product out there. The only problem is that you will have to spend thousands (with an s and no exaggeration) if you want to change all your tension rods like i did. My problem with detuning was so bad that i was ready to pay. My life changed and now i spend more time playing and not always tune before i play. The Tight Screw product is pretty good but not as good as Spin Tight. It will still move a bit. The best product if you don't want to sell your car to get rid of the problem. I use Tight Screw where the Spin Tight doesn't fit like my DW's.
All Gretsch usa snare lugs seem to stay in tune better than the competition (Ludwig). I love Ludwig but this is why I’m a Gretsch guy, it’s a huge plus
Great video! Would love to hear both with triple flanged hoops. It's really close but I would pick the ludwig
When doing a video like this why not spend the $30 and put the same (new) head on each. The Ludwig's head is dead...you can hear it choke. Like comparing two steaks one is a one-day-old leftover and another spent a week in the fridge...just make 2 fresh ones if you are going to compare them. $30...tune them to the resonant frequency of the shell and then compare them again....my two cents.
Hello! Is the gretsch bell brass easy to tune? I’ve heard it’s a pain to tune!
It's not difficult to tune at all. Who told you that?
The easiest snare. From super low to super high. Some wires will not work with it though.
It’s not the snare itself, but the hoops, because die-cast hoops are much heavier then normal hoops so it takes more time to get it in tune.
Currently have the Bell brass USA, but am very curious about the BB. Have always heard great things about the BB, but, yeah, I guess both are killer snares.
The crack sound from BB are amazing,never duplicate hahaha. Ludwig metal snare’s the best!!
@@inderajaya Noted! Might have to get myself a metal snare from LW!!
The Gretch Bell Brass makes most snares seem inadequate. Every time I play mine I honestly consider selling off most of my snares. But having a variety of snares is the collectible aspect of being a drummer. I’m actually considering getting a Yamaha Recording Custom Brass 14 x 6.5 as they’re every bit as good as the Black Beauties.
@@inderajaya, not quite sure on that one, I think you should check out Savage custom bell bronze snare drum.
Bet those hoops on the BB made a difference. Brass?
no.. that's steel with gold chrome
Take away: the bb has a worn out head and still sounds wonderful
Agree!
Preferred the BB.
I prefer the black beauty. Has more cut.
Essa é a Gretsch que o Taylor Hawkins usava.
Ludwig metal snares are hard to beat..against any brand..
Both great drums! The Gretsch has warmer (lower) overtones compared to the BB. Listen closely as each drum decays, listen for the final overtone, you can definitely hear a difference. Neither is better, just different. Great video!
Yes sir!! thanks.
At that tuning I prefer the Gretsch. I'd love to hear a comparison at different tunings. Drums of similar size made of different materials definitely have resonances that are better are some frequencies and less impressive at others. Need both of these.
I own both drums and I can say that the gretsch does everything the black beauty will do and more. It is the best snare I’ve ever played and owned hands down. And I dont say that lightly, the black beauty is an incredible snare.
did you have a chance to compare the bell brass with the phosphor bronze? i still can not make the choise between the two. on one hand posph bro tends to have more bottom end and seems to be a bit closer to TAMA BB. but it sounds more hollow and even cispy comparing with bell brass. what do you think?
but that head on the ludwig is almost dead 10 times more used than the gretsch....
Can't go wrong with either, killer snares.
Yes siiiirrrr!!!
Also wallet killers too especially the one on the left haha
I have a black beauty and am considering the gretsch bell brass and the hammered brass one. Still can't decide!
I like the sound of both, but the BB has something extra-good dryness and articulation that seems stronger than the Gretsch. Cool video!
You have to play a cast bronze snare in person to appreciate it fully. I say if you have a chance to get one wether it's a Tama, Gretch, Sonor or have a custom shell built by Duluth or the other artisan cast bronze builders don't pass it up. Just get one if you can!
Yeah, The BB is better cause the BB has a more clear and tasty response in my opinion
Both sound great! Would use both for different applications. The Black Beauty's thinner shell will enable it to take on much lower-pitched tunings vs the Bell Brass. I would use the bell brass for music that needs the snare to establish more body in the mix.
If I had money I'd tell you what I'd do
Go downtown and buy a snare drum or two.
BOTH AMAZING LEGEND SOUNDS😊
wow, i have BB, that specific version, and i love it, used for Reggaa/Jazz music. that grestch rock it totally. use the Gretsch or BB is just for your choice, both of them are totally great snares. greetings from Costa Rica
I'm agree with you,thanks for sharing. much love from Indonesia!
I don't think that Gretsch is a sand cast shell. I think it is rolled. At least that's what I heard Gretsch say about it. And their website doesn't say that it's cast either.
Different tunning but beautifull sound both!
Thanks
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From the information from Gretsch, their bell brass snares come with the 42 strand snare wires. Not sure if this particular one has that. But after listening to lots of these bell brass and bell bronze videos, and having a Ludwig COB myself for years.... if a metal drum needs 42 snare wires, something is not right. Just my opinion.
Valor de la ludwig
I think the BB has a nice sound and brightness than the Gretsch.
120% right!!
B O T H . . .
Ludwig Men its sounds of Travis barker snare
Hahahahaha
Gretsch!
LBB
You can get a brand new BB B-stock for $450 -$350 less
From where?
Not that particular black beauty with diecast and Tube Lugs, More like a grand.
Wangun nan iki
Gasss
Both sound great. I've played a Black Beauty for many years. I play Gretsch drums (Broadkasters) and love my Broadkaster snare. But, damn, as far as snares go.....I LOVE my BB.
Wow.. hopefully one day i'll get awesome BK. How about the size urs?
14 x 6.5 with brass die cast rims, Imperial lugs, and antique throw-off.
I'm looking for a new snare for my Gretsch Broadkaster. I absolutely love the toms and the kick, but I am having a hard time falling in love with the snare. It's "fine", but I think I need a metal shell snare to complete the kit. I have a handful of different snares, but I'm lacking the "Pang!" of the two drums in the video. There are just too many choices.
@@freethinksman4393 I have a bunch of different snares. All have different qualities and sounds. But, the Ludwig Black Beauty "floats like a butterfly & stings like a bee." I love both wood and metal snares. Both have their applications. Try tuning the Broadkaster high or medium high.
Ludwig.
Gurih gurih nyoyyy 🤤
ngeri ngeri sedep
Prefer mana bang?
Ludwig
@@inderajayathanks bang.. top emang 👍
@@judedrumchannel snare nya kan? Klo dram Gretsch BK juaranya 🤭
I love my BB but it doesn't stay in tune to save it's life.
Is that bell brass or black beauty hahah
Unfortunately… this
I'm a hard hitter and none of my 12 snares (or drums) stay in tune. There is only two products that really work for that. I tried pretty much everything on the market. The Pearl Spin Tight Tension Rod is a marvel of engineering and works almost perfectly. Almost because the inner red srew will unscrew slowly but it gives you the time to secure it before the real tension rod unscrew. You can keep your tuning!! I still feel it's the best product out there. The only problem is that you will have to spend thousands (with an s and no exaggeration) if you want to change all your tension rods like i did. My problem with detuning was so bad that i was ready to pay. My life changed and now i spend more time playing and not always tune before i play. The Tight Screw product is pretty good but not as good as Spin Tight. It will still move a bit. The best product if you don't want to sell your car to get rid of the problem. I use Tight Screw where the Spin Tight doesn't fit like my DW's.
All Gretsch usa snare lugs seem to stay in tune better than the competition (Ludwig). I love Ludwig but this is why I’m a Gretsch guy, it’s a huge plus
How tunned?
Did you make this video for me?
I have a black beauty but have also been drooling over the gretsch bell brass.
for everyone need to compare cast between spun. enjoy this video bro!