I totally agree with the fit issue for wide feet. Both me and my son had the exact same pinch as Lucas. It feels like it is the lower edge of the tongue that sticks out and pinches very uncomfortably. Can't understand the design choice for that detail as I have never experienced it before. To bad as it otherwise felt incredible
Glad that I’m not alone haha! But I also don’t understand what they had in mind there. I had a similar issue with the harden 8, the EVA sidewall that bends inwards too much- have you by any chance tried those as well?
Ironically, I find basketball shoes to be some of the most comfortable shoes for everyday life. Those and running shoes. I wear a 14 as well. But I don't have wide feet, I have flat feet 😭
Hahah I can definitely see that tho! Which shoes do you rock the most currently? I also have a pair of under armour running shoes that I wear on the streets because they are very comfy- my favorite are Vivo barefoot shoes though as they fit my wide feet the best
@ls_hoops the ones I'm wearing most right now are a pair of black and gray Nike renew I got while working at a shoe store. They're super comfortable for my feet, there's support in them and room for my arch support insoles, they're really nice.
GCU on a regular dusty dourt is horrible. The sizing is off as well. Had to go up half of size as they are narrow in the toe box. I like the AC 12 regular version. The Encore has better material better impact protection but just the GCU needs to be killed off except for those on very clean courts. They are now a good lifestyle shoe
Damn that sucks to hear! I had more issues with the GCU on the Wade 11. Didn’t notice as much dust pick up on the AC12 encore. Seems like it’s going into the direction of the Curry Flow Set up. Insane on clean courts, bad on dusty courts
Nice review!! I love these in the "Announcement" colorway, very reminiscent of Wade's first signature shoe with Converse back in the day. My older brother had them and he's the one who got me into Basketball, thinking about getting him those for Christmas! Heard another Reviewer (might've been Nightwing, not sure though!) describe the 12 Encores as a better version of what the Book 1's were intended to be - a blend of lifestyle shoe aesthetic and functionality. I haven't tried the Books nor the 12's so I don't have a personal opinion on them, except for how sexy both are in their own right, and how weird it is that Nike seems to reserve their best tech only for the main LeBron and GT lines, while WoW puts full-length Boom in almost anything. Given how much you love the Books, how would you compare the two? Would you put them on the same level if it wasn't for the pinching? That pinching issue you're describing sounds similar to what I've experienced in the AE's - same spot, different cause of pain. It went away luckily after breaking them in and most notably after switching those horrible laces. The OG laces literally digged a wound into my foot and made them unwearable. Hope with the 12's it gets better after breaking them in. How much have you been wearing them thus far? And speaking of the AE1's, did you go for the Preloved Purple? That colorway and how it reflects light is pure beauty 🥵 my fav hoop shoe rn next to the NB Two Wxy v4, feels so buttery on the court
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for your insight-full comment! 1) I would definitely put them on the same level with the books if not for the pinching. The support features are definitely better and the cushioning comes down to personal preference, but if you’re saying the softer the better, I’d also say the AC 12 encore is better. 2) I really haven’t worn them much apart from testing them because the pinching sadly doesn’t really go away as the material is also sown in that way. I tried everything from stuffing them out to wearing them at home but it’s still relatively similar sadly- sounds awefull what happened with your AEs 😧 3) I actually wanted to get them but there was some kind of confusion about them at KICKZ and sadly so far I haven’t gotten a pair yet. Definitely want to pick them up tho. 4) the Christmas present idea for your brother sounds very nice!! 🎁🎁
honestly love this shoe's whole setup, from the colorways to the actual tech on the shoe. (coming from a widefooter/cherry blossom colorway/half size up) 1 red flag is the pinching at the stitching point(as it is narrow in the mid/forefoot), first unboxing the stitching was stiff/rigid but will soften overtime. (I did accelerate the break-in process by stuffing my shoe at the stitch/pinch point with socks after use) still early days on my shoes mileage but will see how it will continue to soften agreed on the tongue being too thin, feels out of place with the other premium features and the heel counter is quite bulbous ngl great review brotha 🌸
Thanks bro! You summarized it even better than I could have. Love to read through detailed comments like this one to see how other people liked/didn’t like the shoes I’m testing 🫶🤝
I do agree that the shoes isn't very suitable for wide footers. Since I am also wide footed. However, the pinching feeling on the midfoot did go away for me. The only thing i strongly disagree on is probably the fit. The lock in for the ankle is not very secure and feels loose especially when there's no padding for it. However, it might be perfect for those who have longer feet, which i don't have. TBH Every shoe has it's pros and cons. There's no such thing as a perfect shoe. But i feel the shoes is worth buying especially when it's like 40% off right now in stores, which is actually insane for the value you get.
For me I cut up the little flap on the inside of the shoe and that helped only a little bit at first but after I wore them 2 or 3 times the pinching completely went away
Stimmt! Und wenn du den Code LUKAS verwendest bekommst du sogar noch 10% drauf. Als ich das Video aufgenommen habe waren sie noch nicht in Stock, deswegen hab ich es nicht erwähnt
Boom is lighter and bouncier than Boost, but slightly heavier and more stable than Nike's ZoomX. So basically the best foam on the market. And these are absolute killers! Especially if you wear orthotics instead of their insoles
nice review. yeah the pinching was a deal breaker for me. it wasn’t happening all the time but the material would sort of roll up inside to cause pinching. the shoe felt like a banger otherwise
I have the same colorway (both the blossom and avocado), but i didnt experience any of pinching using the avocado colorway . Will the blossom one soften after breaking in? 😭😭😭
That’s interesting as I thought it would be the same with all colorways. It did get softer, but not to a point where I can use them for longer periods of time sadly
These shoes are digging into my right ankle and causing severe discomfort. Very uncomfortable unlike all the reviews ive read and watched online. Saw some online forums and a bunch of people with the same issue but no reviewers are addressing this
That’s interesting as I recently got a DM saying the same thing as you. It really didn’t happen to me so maybe it’s just happening with specific foot types/shapes
That is probably what’s happening. My feet are on the bonier side and my ankle is very pronounced so that may be causing the issue. It’s weird though because the regular AC12 fits like a dream on me with no issues at all
I totally agree with the fit issue for wide feet. Both me and my son had the exact same pinch as Lucas. It feels like it is the lower edge of the tongue that sticks out and pinches very uncomfortably. Can't understand the design choice for that detail as I have never experienced it before. To bad as it otherwise felt incredible
Glad that I’m not alone haha! But I also don’t understand what they had in mind there. I had a similar issue with the harden 8, the EVA sidewall that bends inwards too much- have you by any chance tried those as well?
Ironically, I find basketball shoes to be some of the most comfortable shoes for everyday life. Those and running shoes. I wear a 14 as well. But I don't have wide feet, I have flat feet 😭
Hahah I can definitely see that tho! Which shoes do you rock the most currently? I also have a pair of under armour running shoes that I wear on the streets because they are very comfy- my favorite are Vivo barefoot shoes though as they fit my wide feet the best
@ls_hoops the ones I'm wearing most right now are a pair of black and gray Nike renew I got while working at a shoe store. They're super comfortable for my feet, there's support in them and room for my arch support insoles, they're really nice.
👌🔥
More specifically, "Nike Renew Elevate III" in a Black/White - Wolf Grey colourway
This is probably the best-looking WoW shoe!
Nah if easthetic wise still wow 10 plus superb performance
Especially this colorway too! But I honestly can’t decide between these and the Wade 10 cherry blossom 🌸
GCU on a regular dusty dourt is horrible. The sizing is off as well. Had to go up half of size as they are narrow in the toe box. I like the AC 12 regular version. The Encore has better material better impact protection but just the GCU needs to be killed off except for those on very clean courts. They are now a good lifestyle shoe
Damn that sucks to hear! I had more issues with the GCU on the Wade 11. Didn’t notice as much dust pick up on the AC12 encore. Seems like it’s going into the direction of the Curry Flow Set up. Insane on clean courts, bad on dusty courts
Shoe of the year to me. Best shoe since Clyde all pros IMO. Have never had better step in comfort in a shoe.
🔥🔥🔥 glad that they work so well for you! Are you narrow footed?
@@ls_hoopsI’d say I’m normal sized leaning toward wide but no anything terrible
I see! And you have no pain in the mid foot area?
@@ls_hoops none at all, must be perfect for my foot
Would like to ask if break in can improve pain in the toe box? The laces cause pinching on my foot.
Nice review!! I love these in the "Announcement" colorway, very reminiscent of Wade's first signature shoe with Converse back in the day. My older brother had them and he's the one who got me into Basketball, thinking about getting him those for Christmas!
Heard another Reviewer (might've been Nightwing, not sure though!) describe the 12 Encores as a better version of what the Book 1's were intended to be - a blend of lifestyle shoe aesthetic and functionality. I haven't tried the Books nor the 12's so I don't have a personal opinion on them, except for how sexy both are in their own right, and how weird it is that Nike seems to reserve their best tech only for the main LeBron and GT lines, while WoW puts full-length Boom in almost anything.
Given how much you love the Books, how would you compare the two? Would you put them on the same level if it wasn't for the pinching?
That pinching issue you're describing sounds similar to what I've experienced in the AE's - same spot, different cause of pain. It went away luckily after breaking them in and most notably after switching those horrible laces. The OG laces literally digged a wound into my foot and made them unwearable. Hope with the 12's it gets better after breaking them in. How much have you been wearing them thus far?
And speaking of the AE1's, did you go for the Preloved Purple? That colorway and how it reflects light is pure beauty 🥵 my fav hoop shoe rn next to the NB Two Wxy v4, feels so buttery on the court
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for your insight-full comment!
1) I would definitely put them on the same level with the books if not for the pinching. The support features are definitely better and the cushioning comes down to personal preference, but if you’re saying the softer the better, I’d also say the AC 12 encore is better.
2) I really haven’t worn them much apart from testing them because the pinching sadly doesn’t really go away as the material is also sown in that way. I tried everything from stuffing them out to wearing them at home but it’s still relatively similar sadly- sounds awefull what happened with your AEs 😧
3) I actually wanted to get them but there was some kind of confusion about them at KICKZ and sadly so far I haven’t gotten a pair yet. Definitely want to pick them up tho.
4) the Christmas present idea for your brother sounds very nice!! 🎁🎁
Whats up with the mixed reviews on the traction? Its damn near 50/50 slip or grip. 🤔
I’ve been wondering about that as well. For me they were damn near perfect but as you said some people had big issues
honestly love this shoe's whole setup, from the colorways to the actual tech on the shoe.
(coming from a widefooter/cherry blossom colorway/half size up)
1 red flag is the pinching at the stitching point(as it is narrow in the mid/forefoot), first unboxing the stitching was stiff/rigid but will soften overtime.
(I did accelerate the break-in process by stuffing my shoe at the stitch/pinch point with socks after use)
still early days on my shoes mileage but will see how it will continue to soften
agreed on the tongue being too thin, feels out of place with the other premium features and the heel counter is quite bulbous ngl
great review brotha 🌸
Thanks bro! You summarized it even better than I could have. Love to read through detailed comments like this one to see how other people liked/didn’t like the shoes I’m testing 🫶🤝
should i buy them on kickz and are they good for out door courts
So which shoe do you prefer? AC 12 or AC Encore?
I do agree that the shoes isn't very suitable for wide footers. Since I am also wide footed. However, the pinching feeling on the midfoot did go away for me.
The only thing i strongly disagree on is probably the fit.
The lock in for the ankle is not very secure and feels loose especially when there's no padding for it.
However, it might be perfect for those who have longer feet, which i don't have.
TBH Every shoe has it's pros and cons. There's no such thing as a perfect shoe. But i feel the shoes is worth buying especially when it's like 40% off right now in stores, which is actually insane for the value you get.
I have wow 10 and they are my favorite shoes ever but they ripped on the toe. Should I just get another pair or try these out?
I think if you like the 10s so much you should get another pair of them as long as they are still available at a decent price :)
Does the tightness around the ankle and the pinching ever go away or do i just need to break into them
I didn’t have issues in the ankle area so I’m not sure. For me the mid foot was the problem
@@ls_hoopswill it go away or get a bigger size ?
What would you pick between the wow 10 vs all city 12(not encore)? If you could make a video comparing them regarding sizing too it would be great
I still prefer the wow 10 between those two. I feel like the mid foot area of the AC 12 is more forgiving for wide feet
These or book 1s?
do you think this is a good shoe for volleyball? like wow 10
I also have wider feet and did experience that pinching that you mentioned. Is there anything you did that helped to stop that pinching?
For me I cut up the little flap on the inside of the shoe and that helped only a little bit at first but after I wore them 2 or 3 times the pinching completely went away
Auf kickz kosten sie aktuell 140€
Stimmt! Und wenn du den Code LUKAS verwendest bekommst du sogar noch 10% drauf. Als ich das Video aufgenommen habe waren sie noch nicht in Stock, deswegen hab ich es nicht erwähnt
Boom is lighter and bouncier than Boost, but slightly heavier and more stable than Nike's ZoomX. So basically the best foam on the market. And these are absolute killers! Especially if you wear orthotics instead of their insoles
Agreed! Just wondering- do you have narrow feet or is the pinching just not there for you?
@@ls_hoops I have average width feet. No pinching for me, I also use game day pros for arch support
nice review. yeah the pinching was a deal breaker for me. it wasn’t happening all the time but the material would sort of roll up inside to cause pinching. the shoe felt like a banger otherwise
Thanks! And I totally agree with you. Apart from the pinching it’s one hell of a shoe
I have the same colorway (both the blossom and avocado), but i didnt experience any of pinching using the avocado colorway . Will the blossom one soften after breaking in? 😭😭😭
That’s interesting as I thought it would be the same with all colorways. It did get softer, but not to a point where I can use them for longer periods of time sadly
@@ls_hoops thanks G. Love your vids ❤️❤️❤️
No pinching with avocado for me… making me worried about getting another color
this or gt cut 3?
Are these better for jumping and do they have better cushioning then the regular ac 12?
The cushioning feels a bit softer imo. Bounce is pretty much the same in both
These shoes are digging into my right ankle and causing severe discomfort. Very uncomfortable unlike all the reviews ive read and watched online. Saw some online forums and a bunch of people with the same issue but no reviewers are addressing this
That’s interesting as I recently got a DM saying the same thing as you. It really didn’t happen to me so maybe it’s just happening with specific foot types/shapes
That is probably what’s happening. My feet are on the bonier side and my ankle is very pronounced so that may be causing the issue. It’s weird though because the regular AC12 fits like a dream on me with no issues at all
wac 12encore vs wow 10 Who is better
I prefer the Wade 10
These or spo plus
These are a bit better imo
i have the Game Blue colorway.
🔥🔥
this or kobe 8 protro?
I haven’t tried the Kobe 8 so sadly can’t compare
@@ls_hoops oh okay thanks
@@ls_hoops if u ever happen to try pls lmk
Got them for 100 euro🎉
That’s a steal!!