Biggest Phan | Hazy IPA with Phantasm and Thiol Libre | Grain to Glass | Grainfather
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- How to release all those thiols in a hazy IPA using Thiol Libre and Phantasm. Testing out and messing up methods to continue working toward a crazy good IPA.
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Recipe 5 Gallon
90 min mash 65C
60 min boil
Fermentables
4.5kg Pale 2-Row
1.0kg Flaked Oats
1.0kg Wheat Malt
Hops:
6.9g Magnum - 60 min
92g Cascade - 20 min Whirlpool
92g Citra - 20 min Whirlpool
92g Cascade - 3 Day Dry Hop
92g Citra - 3 Day Dry Hop
Yeast
1 Pkg Escarpment Labs Thiol Libre
Other:
15 min - 1 tab of Irish Moss / Whirlfloc
OG: 1.060
FG: 1.014
ABV: 6.1%
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Paused and read the article haha! Great work on this one
I definitely wasted a bit of time doing that part... Cheers!
Video's just keep getting better, I love watching them
Cheers! Thanks for checking it out!
Great video PTB! Glad you made it through the storms and are able to brew again. Cheers brother!
Cheers! It's all good here!
Hope everything's alright bud! 4 weeks without a video gets me worried after consistently posting for so long. Still checking in every now and again, and I'll keep checking in! All the best 🍻
All good! Funny that I streamed last night and didn't notice this. Hopefully something out by the end of the weekend (although it may be weak...). Cheers!
I was thinking of getting one of those coils for my all rounder. I can see by your results it will be a a good investment. Cheers 😁🍻👍
I recommend them, pretty easy to install. If my fridge wasn't on the fritz, I'd try to do some chilling with ice water and see how it works. Cheers!
Just got an oxygen tank myself! Dont know much about Phantasm or Thiol Libre so learning alot here! Cheers!
Nice, not sure yet if I can see the results, but so far I haven't had a problem with the batches I oxygenated. I just don't like the $25 / bottle it costs. Cheers!
Another great video James! Loved the splashback definition lol. I work at a brewery in BC bartending and occasionally canning and once on a stout canning run I got covered in splashback of the brown, stouty variety. A lot of bar guests looked at me funny for the rest of the day
Nice! I think my best splashback experience comes from dumping trub on my spike fermenter and forgetting that it was pressurized to 15 psi. A bit messy. Cheers!
I felt the same about the phantasm, not sure it added much but glad I tried it out. Glad yours turned out better than mine 😂
I still have one pack of it, so just need to figure out when/how I'll use it next. I'm happy with the result, but scared I oxidized it... Cheers!
Think I can make a hazy fermented in the keg? My last one oxidized bad. I thought about adding a floating dip tube, doing CH's magnet dry hop method, and then when it's done put it on CO2. No O2 exposure
I think it would work. Make sure to trim the dip tune if you are going that route, but a floating dip tune will probably work as well. Not a bad idea at all! Cheers!
Nice vid! Could you please explain relationship of pilsner malt and phenolic flavor?
Looking into it a bit deeper, the Escarpment site says to avoid North American Pilsner Malt, I may have been ok with my Viking Pilsner malt. I don't really know anything other than what it says on the Escarpment site on why it brings out the phenolics. Cheers! escarpmentlabs.com/products/thiol-libre
I just made a hazy ipa with pilsner malt and I definitely get a highly phenolic character. I used up all the thiolized yeast cheat codes: Helio Gazer yeast, mash hopping, phantasm in the whirlpool and primary… surprised that the pilsner would be the culprit as a lot of hazy ipa recipes use pilsner malt. I wonder if the commercial breweries that do this avoid pilsner.
I'm not sure if this is an escarpment thing. I can't find anything on omega that mentions not to use pilsner. The Helio Gazer looks like a great one, I may need to sneak some into Canada! Cheers!
It would be neat if you could follow up on how long these beers last in the keg and when/if they start to decline. The lack of oxidation control might not show up until month 2+ in the keg. No judgement, just an interesting data point.
Also, no chug?
Depending on how long it takes to kick, I'll keep ya updated. As of today, it's been in the keg for almost 4 weeks. I can't taste the oxidation, but it looks like it has a bit. Possibly with a slightly bigger hop load it is masking the oxidized taste. I need to remember to use stuff like ascorbic acid to potentially help fight oxidation (but really just use better transfer techniques). For the chug, I have no excuse. I failed on that as taped the section last night and was in a self-imposed rush... Cheers!
@@PartyTimeBrewing how'd it hold up?
@@EricVandenAkker just had the last glass two days ago and it definitely held up well. Kept the fruity taste and from what I can tell didn't really lose a ton over the few months.
@@PartyTimeBrewing good to hear! Thanks for the update
I’ve tried a bunch of thoil hazies now and they all seem to present bruised fruit flavors. They all seem to tastes borderline oxidized because of this.
Good to know. I don't hate them, but I'm for sure not sold and still prefer the good ol' US-05.
Love it
Cheers! Good luck on your Ultimate Challenge! I bet you're really stoked to see how you did!
Of interest does this bring out a Nelson Sav hop flavour?
I haven't tried Nelson Sav hops, but I took a look at the profile. There seems to be a deep fruitier taste with the beer, but I wouldn't say white wine like at all. I'm not really useful here... Cheers!
@@PartyTimeBrewing seeing US hop prices climbing coming into the UK, however NZ hops are still reasonable value. If you like NZ wine you would like Nelson Sav hops, well worth a brewday 🍺
@@White_Rose_Al I'll have to try them soon.
whats a gram?
It's 1/943472 the weight of the Liberty Bell. For some reason us Canadians use this measurement unit. Cheers!
@@PartyTimeBrewing 😂