Hi great video - i use my X4 mostly at night at bars, venues etc, I'm a musician & DJ would you recommend using this video for best results? thanks in advance
Hi, thanks. I just got my 360 and will definitely follow your advice. Regarding ISO I was wondering if something like Auto ISO max 800 would be useful so the camera can decide which one to according to the available light?Advantage would be that you dont need to change that manually.
low light and HDR are the most important for me... in the bright sun... any camera are similar... this is different in low light, you can see how much they spend in getting the lenses from Sony or any other companies... and of course lots of software engineering...
Yes, low light and HDR are both challenging for smaller sensor cameras, but it is amazing to see how far some of these smaller sensor cameras have come with their capabilities in low lighting.
The footage at night isn't really usable unfortunately. I tried using the 360 X4 has a dash cam with the settings you suggested and it's way too dark, I compared it to the camera on my Samsung s 23 Plus and that provides a way brighter image, I just don't get the 360 feature. I'm at a loss with the insta360 because it's a dedicated $500 camera and doesn't do very well in low light.
If you have it stationary mounted as a dash cam then you can tweak the settings to get better low light results. You should be able to do 8K, 24FPS and a shutter speed of 1/50 with an ISO Max of 800. Try that out. You should get much better results with those settings. The reason the shutter speed has to be faster when the camera is handheld is because the EIS requires a fast enough shutter speed to function properly. When the camera is mounted, such as in your use case, you should be able to use the settings above for great results.
@GreatDayForAHike thank you. That's a shame. I use cameras for mountain biking so setting a range is a great way to ensure lowlight stability and the ability to deal with changing lighting. One of my favourite DJI OA featured. It used to be available on GoPro labs as well 👍
I'm about to order one but worry if this camera's 360 lenses develop the same, well documented, condensation problems as the Insta360 ONE RS 360 lenses ?
For a night lapse I would recommend different settings, especially if you’re trying to capture stars at night (this would involve a stationary camera and a much slower shutter speed). For low light video filming on the X3, these same settings should work well.
Great question. I own the X3 and love it. The biggest difference between the X3 and X4 is the 8K 360 footage. After reframing the 8K footage and exporting, the finished product has much detail and higher resolution than the 5.7K footage on the X3. In low lighting I find the X4 footage looks a bit better than the X3, but the difference is not huge since this camera is not designed to excel in low lighting anyway.
@GreatDayForAHike Thanks for the quick reply. If we talk about in good lighting condition...Will they both perform similar, of course X4 will have little more edge due to 8K, however if we shoot something from X3 in Log mode and then readjust the colours...can we make footage little close to X4 ?
@devisback3698 Yes, overall I would say so since the sensor on the X4 appears to be the same as the X3, but the X4 has a more powerful chip to handle the 8K. Sensor size isn’t bigger vs the X3.
Would you pretty much recommend this setting type for doing 360 video on dark disney rides? Thank you so much for any help!! Insta360 X4 SuperNewbie here :(
one question please, I filmed 8k 30 frames, why is there no 8k export option in the insta studio desktop program? How can I export 8k? Why did I buy this video camera if the program does not export 8k video recording? Thanks
This is because the full 360 degree footage is in 8K. Once you reframe the highest you can export in is 4K. This is because reframing is taking just part of that overall 8K 360 video and exporting it as 4K in a 16:9 aspect ratio.
Thank you, these settings work well! Just one thing to add regarding the 8K30 noise when shooting on auto in low light; the Insta 360 Studio software does a "good-enough" job denoising video. If no other options available, Insta 360 software is a decent fallback plan IMO (if you only use Insta 360 software in your workflow).
I can't seem to find a nightlapse video that you have done for the x3, which i could use on the new x4. Are you thinking of doing a video for the best nightlapse settings?
@GreatDayForAHike the Northern lights were strong in the uk last night and I messed up big time with my action cameras (accidentally started in the wrong mode) luckily I got what I needed with my dslr. By the way your milkyway settings for the gopro hero 11 were bang on for the northern lights, much appreciated 👏.
@GazBarton Awesome, love to hear you were able to capture this display with your DSLR and the GoPro. I did some captures last night as well and will be sharing those captures soon. It was a stunning display.
Got my X4 this weekend. My wife is so disappointed with the single lens still camera mode at night vs an average cellphone photo at night😢. Is there anyway the X4 can take a photo that is similar or better than an average cellphone at night?
A modern smartphone with a good camera is still going to perform better than most action cameras. This is due too at smartphone cameras having optical image stabilization, which works better than electronic image stabilization in low light. Also, many smartphones have equal or larger sensors than most action cameras. Combine these two features/specs and smartphones will perform better.
@@GreatDayForAHike Great video and thanks for the explanation and prompt response. Was planning to take it with me on Dubai holiday in September....now wife has me thinking twice if I should return it. What to do🙃.
@ShakeelIsmail99 It’s strength is 360 video in the daylight. The Ace Pro does great in low light though (but it of course isn’t 360 degree footage that you can reframe).
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks, I'll test the X4 out thoroughly during the day before the return period expires. Hopefully the daytime pros outshine the nighttime lowlight cons.
@@GreatDayForAHike I assume your video covers video lowlight settings only. I meant to ask, is there any particular lowlight X4 camera settings for night photos to improve image lighting and quality?
I would instantly buy a 1inch sensor version of this camera for better low light performance. I hope they update the Insta360 One RS 1inch version to 8K and give it the 200Mbit/s H.265 upgrade like they did for the X4.
@@GreatDayForAHike Currently there is no consumer 360 camera with 8K resolution that is low light capable. The Insta360 X4 is the closest we have right now. I hope they update the One RS 1inch next.
I see many creators are scared to do this review and share the settings, because the settings would be wildly different per creator. lol The do video comparisons but they're not sharing those settings, so I appreciate you being brave-- they're doing post-production cleanups I see. They're trying to say X4 is better than the ONE RS 1inch sensor and DJI Pocket Osmo 3 at night, which is complete nonsense. So, I appreciate you being brave here, but I'm certainly not using this at night while moving, which is why I have the ONE RS 1inch and DJI Pocket Osmo 3.
Thank you for your feedback! Yes, with this footage I did not do any post production cleanup. No denoising, etc. Just a little bit of grading with the flat color profile which means adding a little contrast and color but not much since the footage is pretty limited with those aspects in 8-bit. The X4 is an incredible camera for 360 daylight filming and I love it for that, but yes, I certainly am not going to say it’s better than the ONE RS 1inch or Pocket 3 in low light 😂
@@GreatDayForAHike lol I saw like 5 videos in a row and then I saw the sharpening and was like "wait, it doesn't even have that sharpness at 4pm noon how is it that sharp at 11pm? "
Good video, figured it would be manual mode, but the important thing for me was the 5.7K recomendation, glad to see it was not really valid/needed. It's obvious auto is trying to make the dark exposed to be bright instead of just letting it be dark and I think 5.7k would help get more light to the sensor and allow for a lower ISO to do that, but thats not what we want to do.
If you have it on a gimbal with FlowState turned off, yes. With FlowState on you have to maintain a certain shutter speed in order for the EIS to work properly. Otherwise the footage will have lots of ghosting and jitter.
I find 1/100 to have a bit too much jitter and ghosting. ISO 1600 or 3200 can be used but those ISO levels either have a lot of noise or the footage ends up a little too smooth/lack of detail for my liking.
Sorry mate used your settings. Total rubbish. Tried recording fire works display. Black screen apart from occasional flash. Used x3 on standard normal recording settings footage fine, so think you need a rethink?????😢
These settings are for if the camera is moving. If the camera is stationary you can lower that shutter speed down to 1/50 and let in a great amount of light.
Small sensors can only do so much in low lighting, especially when working with electronic image stabilization which requires a fast enough shutter speed to work properly. That being said I don’t see Insta360 marketing the X4 as having good low light capabilities. For that, I see the Ace Pro or the 1-inch 360 camera still being the best. The X4 is solid in good lighting from my perspective of using the camera but in low light, there are better cameras for sure.
Hiii Thank you for this. How about DJI camera? Have you tried to use one? I'm planning on buying an action camera for my bike rides. However, I don't know how to decide.
Is anyone else having trouble downloading 360 videos into phone album? They do not show as 360 images even when I specified to export as 360 images from insta360 app…. 😢
I haven’t tested exporting a 360 clip that isn’t reframed on the phone yet but depending upon your phone the default album may not support showing the video as 360 degree video. That is one possibility.
Hi great video - i use my X4 mostly at night at bars, venues etc, I'm a musician & DJ would you recommend using this video for best results? thanks in advance
Hi, thanks. I just got my 360 and will definitely follow your advice. Regarding ISO I was wondering if something like Auto ISO max 800 would be useful so the camera can decide which one to according to the available light?Advantage would be that you dont need to change that manually.
Thanks for this tip... I have tested it with my motorcycle during night. I will try your recommended settings
So how did it go?
@@SuzoSenpai If he dont respond ill come back when i try it out
@@luii_r1 thank you homie 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@@luii_r1 how'd it go? haha
@@stevemayvisuals i tried it and everything was almost pitch black.
Thanks for the tips! Do you feel/think it’s better to move slower or keep the same pace when recording?
Moving slow and smooth in low lighting will technically help the footage look even better in most cases.
low light and HDR are the most important for me... in the bright sun... any camera are similar... this is different in low light, you can see how much they spend in getting the lenses from Sony or any other companies... and of course lots of software engineering...
Yes, low light and HDR are both challenging for smaller sensor cameras, but it is amazing to see how far some of these smaller sensor cameras have come with their capabilities in low lighting.
The footage at night isn't really usable unfortunately. I tried using the 360 X4 has a dash cam with the settings you suggested and it's way too dark, I compared it to the camera on my Samsung s 23 Plus and that provides a way brighter image, I just don't get the 360 feature. I'm at a loss with the insta360 because it's a dedicated $500 camera and doesn't do very well in low light.
If you have it stationary mounted as a dash cam then you can tweak the settings to get better low light results. You should be able to do 8K, 24FPS and a shutter speed of 1/50 with an ISO Max of 800. Try that out. You should get much better results with those settings.
The reason the shutter speed has to be faster when the camera is handheld is because the EIS requires a fast enough shutter speed to function properly. When the camera is mounted, such as in your use case, you should be able to use the settings above for great results.
Can you set a shutter speed range on manual or is it a fixed shutter speed?
Unfortunately no range and only fixed if not using Auto.
@GreatDayForAHike thank you. That's a shame. I use cameras for mountain biking so setting a range is a great way to ensure lowlight stability and the ability to deal with changing lighting. One of my favourite DJI OA featured. It used to be available on GoPro labs as well 👍
@streetpigeonmtb yes, absolutely! I love this feature on the DJI action cameras. I wish GoPro would just build it into their stock user interface.
@GreatDayForAHike I know. It's a real missed opportunity right? Thanks for getting back to me. Keep up the good work 👌
@streetpigeonmtb For sure. Thank you.
I'm about to order one but worry if this camera's 360 lenses develop the same, well documented, condensation problems as the Insta360 ONE RS 360 lenses ?
Great tips. Ill try the setting. How about capturing fireworks… maybe u could share this in future!
Would you personally use the same settings as the X3 for nightlapse?
For a night lapse I would recommend different settings, especially if you’re trying to capture stars at night (this would involve a stationary camera and a much slower shutter speed). For low light video filming on the X3, these same settings should work well.
Hi, I have X3 and pretty happy for social media video clips. Do you recommend to upgrade to X4 ...is there day & night difference? thanks
Great question. I own the X3 and love it. The biggest difference between the X3 and X4 is the 8K 360 footage. After reframing the 8K footage and exporting, the finished product has much detail and higher resolution than the 5.7K footage on the X3. In low lighting I find the X4 footage looks a bit better than the X3, but the difference is not huge since this camera is not designed to excel in low lighting anyway.
@GreatDayForAHike Thanks for the quick reply. If we talk about in good lighting condition...Will they both perform similar, of course X4 will have little more edge due to 8K, however if we shoot something from X3 in Log mode and then readjust the colours...can we make footage little close to X4 ?
@devisback3698 Yes, overall I would say so since the sensor on the X4 appears to be the same as the X3, but the X4 has a more powerful chip to handle the 8K. Sensor size isn’t bigger vs the X3.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thank you!
@devisback3698 You’re welcome!
Would you pretty much recommend this setting type for doing 360 video on dark disney rides? Thank you so much for any help!! Insta360 X4 SuperNewbie here :(
one question please, I filmed 8k 30 frames, why is there no 8k export option in the insta studio desktop program? How can I export 8k? Why did I buy this video camera if the program does not export 8k video recording?
Thanks
This is because the full 360 degree footage is in 8K. Once you reframe the highest you can export in is 4K. This is because reframing is taking just part of that overall 8K 360 video and exporting it as 4K in a 16:9 aspect ratio.
Thank you, these settings work well! Just one thing to add regarding the 8K30 noise when shooting on auto in low light; the Insta 360 Studio software does a "good-enough" job denoising video. If no other options available, Insta 360 software is a decent fallback plan IMO (if you only use Insta 360 software in your workflow).
Thanks for your feedback. Yes, good point on the denoising using the Insta360 studio. It is a usable fallback option.
@@GreatDayForAHike I don't see a denoising option in the studio software at all. - I see one for Audio, but nothing for video. Where it at?
Great video. Thanks for the settings, I will try them.😊
Thank you.
What about stills for 360 sphere interiors?
Very comprehensive, thanks for posting
Appreciate it. Thank you.
So what do I do if I walk into a bright building do I need to go through my settings again and change it?
You can also put the ISO on auto and scroll up to max 400 or max 800 to give the camera range and flexibility within those parameters.
I can't seem to find a nightlapse video that you have done for the x3, which i could use on the new x4. Are you thinking of doing a video for the best nightlapse settings?
Yes, you requested this at a good time as I am actually working on this video presently.
@GreatDayForAHike the Northern lights were strong in the uk last night and I messed up big time with my action cameras (accidentally started in the wrong mode) luckily I got what I needed with my dslr. By the way your milkyway settings for the gopro hero 11 were bang on for the northern lights, much appreciated 👏.
@GazBarton Awesome, love to hear you were able to capture this display with your DSLR and the GoPro. I did some captures last night as well and will be sharing those captures soon. It was a stunning display.
Saweet!🎉Thank You
You’re welcome.
Question, why are smartphone's camera so much better in low light, especially at night compared to action cameras? Is it because of the processor?
Sensor size, optical image stabilization vs electronic image stabilization, aperture value, noise removal algorithm, etc are some factors.
With flat profile do we have to edit video in davinci or something? Is it like dlog of dji action camera
the flat option just slightly neutralizes the colors. I prefer it for more color grading flexibility
Got my X4 this weekend. My wife is so disappointed with the single lens still camera mode at night vs an average cellphone photo at night😢. Is there anyway the X4 can take a photo that is similar or better than an average cellphone at night?
A modern smartphone with a good camera is still going to perform better than most action cameras. This is due too at smartphone cameras having optical image stabilization, which works better than electronic image stabilization in low light. Also, many smartphones have equal or larger sensors than most action cameras. Combine these two features/specs and smartphones will perform better.
@@GreatDayForAHike Great video and thanks for the explanation and prompt response. Was planning to take it with me on Dubai holiday in September....now wife has me thinking twice if I should return it. What to do🙃.
@ShakeelIsmail99 It’s strength is 360 video in the daylight. The Ace Pro does great in low light though (but it of course isn’t 360 degree footage that you can reframe).
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks, I'll test the X4 out thoroughly during the day before the return period expires. Hopefully the daytime pros outshine the nighttime lowlight cons.
@@GreatDayForAHike I assume your video covers video lowlight settings only. I meant to ask, is there any particular lowlight X4 camera settings for night photos to improve image lighting and quality?
Thank you for your tips!
You’re welcome!
I would instantly buy a 1inch sensor version of this camera for better low light performance.
I hope they update the Insta360 One RS 1inch version to 8K and give it the 200Mbit/s H.265 upgrade like they did for the X4.
Yes, the 1 inch sensor should easily outperform this in low light. Then again Insta360 doesn’t appear to market this as a low light camera.
@@GreatDayForAHike Currently there is no consumer 360 camera with 8K resolution that is low light capable. The Insta360 X4 is the closest we have right now. I hope they update the One RS 1inch next.
Yes, would be a great update.
Iso 400 1/30 ! и это хорошая картинка без шумов и зерна , и ее можно вытянуть на обработке, однако если сильно темно то это не работает.
I was expecting pure night mode like ace pro with x4. Very disappointing.
I see many creators are scared to do this review and share the settings, because the settings would be wildly different per creator. lol The do video comparisons but they're not sharing those settings, so I appreciate you being brave-- they're doing post-production cleanups I see. They're trying to say X4 is better than the ONE RS 1inch sensor and DJI Pocket Osmo 3 at night, which is complete nonsense. So, I appreciate you being brave here, but I'm certainly not using this at night while moving, which is why I have the ONE RS 1inch and DJI Pocket Osmo 3.
Thank you for your feedback! Yes, with this footage I did not do any post production cleanup. No denoising, etc. Just a little bit of grading with the flat color profile which means adding a little contrast and color but not much since the footage is pretty limited with those aspects in 8-bit. The X4 is an incredible camera for 360 daylight filming and I love it for that, but yes, I certainly am not going to say it’s better than the ONE RS 1inch or Pocket 3 in low light 😂
@@GreatDayForAHike lol I saw like 5 videos in a row and then I saw the sharpening and was like "wait, it doesn't even have that sharpness at 4pm noon how is it that sharp at 11pm? "
@DrunkPhotography LOL
Very useful. Thanks.
better to be grainy rather than total darkness.
Good video, figured it would be manual mode, but the important thing for me was the 5.7K recomendation, glad to see it was not really valid/needed.
It's obvious auto is trying to make the dark exposed to be bright instead of just letting it be dark and I think 5.7k would help get more light to the sensor and allow for a lower ISO to do that, but thats not what we want to do.
I wouldn't qualify conditions where you can use 400 iso, 1/120 sec, f:2.0 for really low light.
Yes, these settings work well for low light such as night time in a city but for “really low light” I wouldn’t recommend using any action camera.
Wouldn’t a lower fps be brighter. Like 24fps with a 1/48 shutter with boosted ISO.
You can denoise in post pretty well. Haven’t tested this camera but plan to buy it.
If you have it on a gimbal with FlowState turned off, yes. With FlowState on you have to maintain a certain shutter speed in order for the EIS to work properly. Otherwise the footage will have lots of ghosting and jitter.
Let's just say this camera is not designed for low light ! just enjoy it during the day . Forget about it .
1/120 too dark, 1/100 better. ISO 1600 not enough for night - need 3200
I find 1/100 to have a bit too much jitter and ghosting. ISO 1600 or 3200 can be used but those ISO levels either have a lot of noise or the footage ends up a little too smooth/lack of detail for my liking.
Sorry mate used your settings. Total rubbish. Tried recording fire works display. Black screen apart from occasional flash. Used x3 on standard normal recording settings footage fine, so think you need a rethink?????😢
These settings are for if the camera is moving. If the camera is stationary you can lower that shutter speed down to 1/50 and let in a great amount of light.
night video is horrible, action 4/5 put it to shame
Glad i never got this, low light still look crap
Small sensors can only do so much in low lighting, especially when working with electronic image stabilization which requires a fast enough shutter speed to work properly. That being said I don’t see Insta360 marketing the X4 as having good low light capabilities. For that, I see the Ace Pro or the 1-inch 360 camera still being the best. The X4 is solid in good lighting from my perspective of using the camera but in low light, there are better cameras for sure.
Hiii Thank you for this. How about DJI camera? Have you tried to use one? I'm planning on buying an action camera for my bike rides. However, I don't know how to decide.
OSMO pocket 3 is a phenomenal camera for its price. Great in day and low light.
Is anyone else having trouble downloading 360 videos into phone album? They do not show as 360 images even when I specified to export as 360 images from insta360 app…. 😢
I haven’t tested exporting a 360 clip that isn’t reframed on the phone yet but depending upon your phone the default album may not support showing the video as 360 degree video. That is one possibility.