Tom Silva is a total machine. He is one of my favorite figures in media, just very consistent and knowledgable. I'm sad that I'm much younger than him, so I'm trying to absorb what I can while he's still making these. Thanks Tom. And RIP Peter.
“Peter wanted to keep the authenticity of the house” over her left shoulder is an AC condenser. Still A very cool video and today I learned that wood gutters exist and there are still some people that would be interested in repairing a wood gutter.
They don't mention that finding a manufacturer of the wood gutter in matching profile is tough and a half. You have to match the existing profile and then get the lengths manufactured and shipped. Installation is no snap due to the weight and awkwardness of the lengths. Fun to watch this but they skip over the difficult parts. Out here in the NW they have/had a special gutter "oil" that I used to protect the gutters. I had them on four buildings on my farm, but only have one set left. They performed well for me for over 50 years with minimal maintenance.
We remodeled a house a long time ago that had a piece of a wood gutter I didn't know what it was until a older guy told me what it was it was up in a detached garage attic along with some old traps it was pretty cool finding all these very old things. Some of those traps had to be best traps. The original house was built around the 1880 it's in Glen Rose Texas the first house built in Glen Rose. That was Commanche land back then
If there are a lot of people in New England who like wooden gutters, I'm surprise that there isn't a fiberglass replacement that looks like wood and doesn't rot like wood.
It could be made of the (cellular)PVC trim they have now. You'd have to glue pieces together and then mill them to this 'gutter' profile. But it wouldn't rot ever.
man….there will NEVER be a crew like the originals from 1979 till now (except for Kevin he was and is the best host that’s been on this show!) Kevin,Norm, Roger,Rich,Tom i like vila but he was ehhhh back then. i just watched for norm 😁👍🇺🇸
Tom Silva is a good man and great teacher. He looks tired here. Sharp, but tired. Hope everything is alright with him and all the rest of the TOH crew.
Wonder if they could line it with aluminum gutter to save on the oil maintenance ?? Yes I know it would cost extra but in long term of maintenance and cost to replace wood again down the road.
If anything they'd wrap it in lead or copper & solder all the joints to be really waterproof. These wood gutters were the thing before aluminum was even a thing.
Personally, I would've gone with aluminum gutters. They can be painting to match the existing trim (and the rotted wood would still haveto be replaced, of course), but they work better for water management and need far less maintenance than wood gutters.
Mine lasted over 50 years before they needed replacing. I did some patching with fabric and tar sealant made for that purpose, but the work was pretty minimal. Oiled them only twice in 39 years. Old growth Pac NW cedar material.
It seems like the obvious problem with them is they can't hold as much water, so in a big storm they will overflow. Especially with only a 2.5" downspout hole. Nevermind having to climb on a ladder and oil every gutter at least once a year. This is one of those projects that seems like it's kind of pointless not embracing the available technology.
@@arbiter3297 Mine have been on the house 100 years but guess who gets the honor of spending tens of thousands to have them changed? 50 years is nothing. With aluminum they last 1000 years.
Who remembers when This Old House did work on average older houses demonstrating practical and useful information that the average homeowner could use instead of just multi million dollar historic homes?
Part of it is modern construction is so poor quality and unsustainable that few things are worth repairing or even repairable. Whereas old materials were meant to last and specific pieces could be fixed, now everything starts falling apart at a certain point in time and that is generally when the owners sell out to an investment firm that turns the old house into a rental while the owners buy a new tract house in the latest suburb another 10 miles out of town.
@@vapeurdepisse Almost everything that old is pushing seven figures in value due to the location it was built in. Many are worth seven figures just for the lot.
@@dancooper6002 Sorry but no. It's location, not age dependent. If anything, a new house in the same location is always worth more. This is evident in my neck of the wood where an old house goes for $2M. Same size, new house is $3-4M
@@vapeurdepisse False, you aren't comparing apples to apples. New homes are rarely if ever the same size as old ones, they are usually significantly bigger. New homes are also much more poorly built, using lots of fake or garbage materials like plastics and styrofoams. What you are failing to understand is that older homes are not always in restored condition, which makes comparison difficult. A fully restored home is, per sq foot, worth significantly more than new construction because you cannot easily create that level of craftsmanship today.
I feel the lead exposure from here. Also… should you really be using a new lead sheet? You cant use copper or something better for the ground water? Great work besides.
What a shame with that huge knot hole on the edge of the gutter in the last clip but I suppose the painter will pop some wood filler in it before painting it. Still, an obvious place for a failure after a few years I would think.
This will outlive her by decades. She stated her reasons why choosing this. Many people especially in that New England area(Mass., Vermont, New Hampshire, etc) tend to keep their houses authentic. The houses had wood cedar shake roofs for half their lives. Cedar shakes will last 50 years no problem, and this is cold winter snow area. Aluminum wasn't even a thing 100 years ago, lead or copper are the only other choices years ago.
Right! There is a reason gutters are not made of wood anymore typically.... Its bad enough to have to clean them out a couple times a year now we have to actually clean the insides and add oil ? I get however that its a restoration of an older house that prob was common when made.... But gutters connected directly to roof rafters? Yike I seen all kinds of issues with gutters alone let alone insect and water intrusion direct to the frame of the house
I have wooden gutters on my cabin. +Thirty five yrs, never been served, and still in good (ok) condition. Guess that's bcs they are made of pressure treated wood of a formula "before" all this nonsense of dangerous chemical run off and environmental damage. The alternative would have been aluminum. Not sure the _total_ environmental footprint on such gutters are lower than my wooden? And the aesthetics??
This is kind of ridiculous. "Doing it the old fashioned way", for Peter's sake. Had Peter been alive, I bet I could have talked him into PVC. The exact same profile, and no damned annual oiling or eventual rot. Seriously, who oils their gutters yearly any more?
PVC is an awful substance. You get microplastics all over the place adding it, contaminating the soil for decades or more likely centuries. Sometimes ruining the earth to satisfy our endless needs and desire for convenience isn't the right thing to do.
@@arbiter3297 Yeah I think people are picturing this in October when its wet and full of leaves. Best time would be a hot spell in July/August. Power wash the gunk out and let er dry for a few days then presto, oiled and ready for another year.
This old house is a beacon of light in a social media devoid of reality and substance. Bought a t-shirt!
Tom Silva is a total machine. He is one of my favorite figures in media, just very consistent and knowledgable. I'm sad that I'm much younger than him, so I'm trying to absorb what I can while he's still making these. Thanks Tom. And RIP Peter.
My wife and I drive by this house all the time, and have always admired it. So glad that Regina is doing such a great job caring for it. Nice work!
Is this New York State?
We need more videos like this with Tom Silva he is an encyclopedia
Sweet woman ❤ I’m so glad they responded to her email. Her husband would be so proud knowing Tommy and the crew worked on his gutters. 😊
When Tommy breaks out the hand saw, you know things are getting good!
I love your UA-cam channel!
@@jd415 Thank you, I really appreciate that
Mr. Silva deserves some type of lifetime achievement award.
That Tommy, he really is something special. Thanks for the video.
Gotta love Tom Silva.
I always watch this show on TV and I really enjoy it a lot, they are excellent in everything they do.
Great job men...
Just got a job to repair some wooden gutters, TOH always coming through! RIP Peter
“Peter wanted to keep the authenticity of the house” over her left shoulder is an AC condenser. Still
A very cool video and today I learned that wood gutters exist and there are still some people that would be interested in repairing a wood gutter.
They don't mention that finding a manufacturer of the wood gutter in matching profile is tough and a half. You have to match the existing profile and then get the lengths manufactured and shipped. Installation is no snap due to the weight and awkwardness of the lengths. Fun to watch this but they skip over the difficult parts. Out here in the NW they have/had a special gutter "oil" that I used to protect the gutters. I had them on four buildings on my farm, but only have one set left. They performed well for me for over 50 years with minimal maintenance.
Perhaps the last time Tommy was out he checked on this concern and so for the sake of this follow up they got the wooden gutter.🤷♀️
Finally got to see Nathan’s dad, and he got a speaking role😊
I didn't even know wooden gutters were a thing.
Me either
oh yes!!! they are great till the leak
Back when people would whip themselves, they also used wooden gutters as a form of self punishment
In the Philly area we see them. They are more square and built into the roof and lined with lead or copper..
@@Ultrajamz😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Curious about the knot hole left right in the edge where its highly visible? Maybe its planned to fill in and paint over?
We remodeled a house a long time ago that had a piece of a wood gutter I didn't know what it was until a older guy told me what it was it was up in a detached garage attic along with some old traps it was pretty cool finding all these very old things. Some of those traps had to be best traps. The original house was built around the 1880 it's in Glen Rose Texas the first house built in Glen Rose. That was Commanche land back then
I saw Tom in Springfield Mass back in early 2000s at a trade show still have a signed photograph lol
This guy is best od the best
Seems like a nice old lady, would love to have her as a neighbor.
I have a neighbour who had similar characteristics...until one day in Sept 23' she showed me her true colours and we don't speak anymore.
@@chrisfi3d lmaooo
@@chrisfi3d lol what happened
true craftsman
If there are a lot of people in New England who like wooden gutters, I'm surprise that there isn't a fiberglass replacement that looks like wood and doesn't rot like wood.
It could be made of the (cellular)PVC trim they have now. You'd have to glue pieces together and then mill them to this 'gutter' profile. But it wouldn't rot ever.
man….there will NEVER be a crew like the originals from 1979 till now (except for Kevin he was and is the best host that’s been on this show!) Kevin,Norm, Roger,Rich,Tom i like vila but he was ehhhh back then. i just watched for norm 😁👍🇺🇸
What wood are the gutters made from?
Looks like fir.
In the Pacific NW, Old Growth Close Grain Cedar, if possible.
They are made from jooz. Like lamshades and soap.
Tom Silva is a good man and great teacher. He looks tired here. Sharp, but tired. Hope everything is alright with him and all the rest of the TOH crew.
We all age😢
Old people often don't get enough sleep. Aches and pains keep them up. And having to pee during the night doesn't help.
I would have liked to see the router they used to cut that trough out with. I wonder how many passes they had to make to get it to full size.
Wonder if they could line it with aluminum gutter to save on the oil maintenance ?? Yes I know it would cost extra but in long term of maintenance and cost to replace wood again down the road.
Wondering the same thing. I’d be afraid of trapped moisture. I almost think a bitumen roofing product would be even better?
If anything they'd wrap it in lead or copper & solder all the joints to be really waterproof. These wood gutters were the thing before aluminum was even a thing.
I worked at Pacific University and one of their houses had wooden gutters about six inches above the roof edge.
Personally, I would've gone with aluminum gutters. They can be painting to match the existing trim (and the rotted wood would still haveto be replaced, of course), but they work better for water management and need far less maintenance than wood gutters.
This should be interesting
Saludos, no me puedo imaginar una canoa de madera aquí en costa rica, no aguanta un invierno
Never seen wood gutters
Rip roger
My question is: Will they have to set up the scaffolding every year to do the maintenance?
Not necessarily, probably do it off a ladder.
The old bird up there each June with her white rag and glass bottle of linseed oil - can picture it now.
What’s next? A wooden chimney?
💀
Are you joking or do you not know about those?
I cna imagine that, in some jurisdictions, wooden gutters would need to be replaced as per modern building codes.
Sometimes I wonder why when everything else around them would burn🤷♀️
a lot of building codes don't even require gutters, believe it or not...
Wonder why you wouldn't put some kind of coating that you wouldn't have to apply to the gutter every year
Why not aluminum gutters dressed/wrapped with wood? No wood to water contact.
Curious why PVC was not used 🤔
I have em and they are the worst. Nobody keeps them oiled so they split and rot. They are useless as gutters.
Mine lasted over 50 years before they needed replacing. I did some patching with fabric and tar sealant made for that purpose, but the work was pretty minimal. Oiled them only twice in 39 years. Old growth Pac NW cedar material.
It seems like the obvious problem with them is they can't hold as much water, so in a big storm they will overflow. Especially with only a 2.5" downspout hole. Nevermind having to climb on a ladder and oil every gutter at least once a year. This is one of those projects that seems like it's kind of pointless not embracing the available technology.
@@arbiter3297 Mine have been on the house 100 years but guess who gets the honor of spending tens of thousands to have them changed? 50 years is nothing. With aluminum they last 1000 years.
Who remembers when This Old House did work on average older houses demonstrating practical and useful information that the average homeowner could use instead of just multi million dollar historic homes?
Part of it is modern construction is so poor quality and unsustainable that few things are worth repairing or even repairable. Whereas old materials were meant to last and specific pieces could be fixed, now everything starts falling apart at a certain point in time and that is generally when the owners sell out to an investment firm that turns the old house into a rental while the owners buy a new tract house in the latest suburb another 10 miles out of town.
What in this house indicates it’s worth multi millions??? It looks like a shack. Only reason this could be worth this much is location
@@vapeurdepisse Almost everything that old is pushing seven figures in value due to the location it was built in. Many are worth seven figures just for the lot.
@@dancooper6002 Sorry but no. It's location, not age dependent. If anything, a new house in the same location is always worth more. This is evident in my neck of the wood where an old house goes for $2M. Same size, new house is $3-4M
@@vapeurdepisse False, you aren't comparing apples to apples. New homes are rarely if ever the same size as old ones, they are usually significantly bigger. New homes are also much more poorly built, using lots of fake or garbage materials like plastics and styrofoams.
What you are failing to understand is that older homes are not always in restored condition, which makes comparison difficult. A fully restored home is, per sq foot, worth significantly more than new construction because you cannot easily create that level of craftsmanship today.
Tommy must be tired of them ol quiffs
I feel the lead exposure from here. Also… should you really be using a new lead sheet? You cant use copper or something better for the ground water?
Great work besides.
What a shame with that huge knot hole on the edge of the gutter in the last clip but I suppose the painter will pop some wood filler in it before painting it. Still, an obvious place for a failure after a few years I would think.
She should have went with aluminum gutters. They will last longer
This will outlive her by decades. She stated her reasons why choosing this. Many people especially in that New England area(Mass., Vermont, New Hampshire, etc) tend to keep their houses authentic. The houses had wood cedar shake roofs for half their lives. Cedar shakes will last 50 years no problem, and this is cold winter snow area. Aluminum wasn't even a thing 100 years ago, lead or copper are the only other choices years ago.
Oil them once per year? Yeah no thanks!
Right! There is a reason gutters are not made of wood anymore typically.... Its bad enough to have to clean them out a couple times a year now we have to actually clean the insides and add oil ? I get however that its a restoration of an older house that prob was common when made.... But gutters connected directly to roof rafters? Yike I seen all kinds of issues with gutters alone let alone insect and water intrusion direct to the frame of the house
I have wooden gutters on my cabin. +Thirty five yrs, never been served, and still in good (ok) condition. Guess that's bcs they are made of pressure treated wood of a formula "before" all this nonsense of dangerous chemical run off and environmental damage. The alternative would have been aluminum. Not sure the _total_ environmental footprint on such gutters are lower than my wooden? And the aesthetics??
Thought they stop doing any new videos on Ask This Old House, or This Old House?
n behalf of her what??
who filmed this should be take the couple days off, they missed the whole up there, also why not use a fake wood, giving the look of wood but no rot ?
This is kind of ridiculous. "Doing it the old fashioned way", for Peter's sake. Had Peter been alive, I bet I could have talked him into PVC. The exact same profile, and no damned annual oiling or eventual rot. Seriously, who oils their gutters yearly any more?
Certainly not that old lady... Or the next owners of the house.
PVC is an awful substance. You get microplastics all over the place adding it, contaminating the soil for decades or more likely centuries.
Sometimes ruining the earth to satisfy our endless needs and desire for convenience isn't the right thing to do.
It's not that tough. I did it with ATCO oil and a paint brush. Just need the gutter to be clean and dry in the summer.
@@arbiter3297 Yeah I think people are picturing this in October when its wet and full of leaves. Best time would be a hot spell in July/August. Power wash the gunk out and let er dry for a few days then presto, oiled and ready for another year.
@@arbiter3297 Yup. I've done it, too. Back when I was in my early 30's.
She should have spent money on her teeth!
The lowest energy episode ever. Music is missing or less used than normal? Got out of bed the wrong way?
Here's your refund for the free video
@@zunedog31 I like this old house. This one was just low energy and silent for way too long at one point.
This aint the price is right
Did Peter get the 💉?
I heard he got a rotted wooden gutter to head from 5 meters.