It may be argued as retaliation but getting people on tiny infractions nonstop is very easy and common things any places do, plus then theyll have an nda and make them sign the papers that initally were supposed to even keep the screw up from happening @IIGrayfoxII
As someone that’s been falsely accused this is gold. One of the main reasons why I’ll have an attorney once I’m employed again. I’m in school using my GI bill for those of you curious.
Do not return. Do not settle for anything less than millions. Multiple people in the company were involved and unreasonable. They nearly ruined your life, so make them set you up for life in return.
@@Salaundre With corporate payouts like this a lot of attorney's would even do it pro bono just to be attached to such a high profile case, though as you say most would like some of that back-end juice.
Paragraph guy time: I pulled one of my direct reports, Deborah, into another room to discuss a few mistakes she made, but did not discipline her further. After this, she went to Joyce, one of the managers above me but not in my direct line of report. Equal to my boss in terms of reporting structure. When Joyce heard that I had taken Deborah into another room without any witnesses, she said to her that it was unprofessional. Apparently her exact words were, "You know, you could accuse him of being inappropriate with you, and I would have no choice but to believe you." This was repeated several times, with a strong emphasis on "no choice". Joyce then asked Deborah if I had been inappropriate with her, saying, "It will only happen again if you don't speak up now. If you do now, we can take action." Taking the not at all subtle hint from Joyce, Deborah accused me of exposing myself to her, and I was placed on leave pending an investigation. Joyce immediately sent out an e-mail that nobody besides the secretary was to speak with me without an attorney present, and told the IT guy, Paul, to deactivate my access. James, my boss, had a resume from Terri, an employee in Joyce's department, applying for my job before close of business that day, and she was hired. Paul and I talked, he provided me with video proving my innocence. The company continued to stonewall me, and refused to talk to me. When they did, they attempted to push me into arbitration, and to retroactively sign an arbitration agreement. I cut my losses, took another job, and was ready to move on. Sandy, an employee in Joyce's department, broke protocol, talked to HR at the new company, told them I had sexually assaulted a subordinate, and cost me the job. So that brings us up to date. My attorney and I launched a civil suit against the company and Deborah. Bet you're wondering how I know the above. Well good old Joyce said she'd protect Deborah if she came forward. Unfortunately, that only extended to her job. So when she was named individually in this suit, corporate told her they would not be providing her an attorney. After realizing that she'd be putting her house up for collateral, she was all too willing to throw Joyce under the bus. Joyce went to Paul, the IT guy, who was one of her reports and gave him a list of footage to be procedurally wiped as part of an archive clearout. He pointed out that the incident with me was on that list and part of an ongoing investigation. Joyce told him that it was no longer needed and to go ahead and wipe it. He refused citing the fact that it would still be requested in the event that the suit moved forward. She told him to pack his things as he was being terminated for insubordination. He called the company attorney and informed her what had happened. The aftermath: Several things happened at once, so I'll try to keep them as chronological as I can. Deborah's attorney contacted mine stating that, conditional on me dropping the suit, she would admit that she lied and explain what went on behind the scenes. Dana, the company attorney, got the call from my attorney with the details from Deborah shortly after she finished talking with Paul about him being terminated for refusing to destroy evidence. Deborah and Joyce were terminated for cause that day. Paul was told that his job was safe. My attorney received a call, and it was made clear that the company didn't want this to go any further and wanted to talk settlement. I won't go into all of the details, but what I can say: I was offered my job back with a very fair increase, I received back pay from the date of suspension, and a public apology was offered from the very top. Terri is now working in Joyce's old position, she's incredibly cool about things, and felt horrified when she found out what happened. James and I are good now, and he has personally apologized for not sticking up for me
The settlement amount would most likely be around his annual salary x a few times. I don’t think he would have made millions, also attorneys fees and taxes would eat a huge chunk of that money.
Dont take the offer you can get so much more form them if you continue the lawsuit it is your choice but i would continue the lawsuit with everything they have done they are most likely going to make you sign that new paper and get you fired for something little or tip off an employee that if they say something like this again they will get a bonus or something and you will get fired and there will be nothing you can do
Why would you want your job back? Full year's pay plus normal bonus and attorney all legal fees paid, the company admits FULL fault and contacts every single place that ANY employee has spoken to, and a PUBLIC apology is issued. That or see you in court.
It would’ve been a conflict of interest to take the job back. Literally, especially after a suit was filed in court. Never take the job back after something like that. Never.
The guy basically let the company walk over him. I would have kept the lawsuit going and reamed them for millions. With such disgusting behavior, there's no way this was a one time thing, and if the arbitration clause paperwork wasn't being signed like it was supposed to by employees, there are bound to be more employees that were wronged that have grounds to get in on the lawsuit. Can't believe that the guy would trust anyone again that would throw him under the bus like that.
I swear this exact situation happened to a friend of mine - false accusations of this nature should be punishable by the penalty that would have (or has) been applied to the victim
Funny how the company you poured your heart and soul into, would throw you under the bus without even thinking clearly, then wanted to make amends to save face.
I wouldn’t have gone back, they hastily terminated him and replaced him without doing a proper investigation and therefore had no evidence whatsoever and a young girls word. If they had done a proper investigation they would have gone to the head of security or if they don’t have a security department then it would have been the head of the IT department and asked if they had cameras in XYZ room and if so can they see the footage for this date at this time, but they didn’t.
At some point, when THEY disobeyed "protocol" . They fired you with no evidence (in fact not using evidence they SHOULD have.). If they can fire you, they can fire another employee Under NO circumstances should you sign ANYTHING after the fact without your lawyers approval. And if you never signed anything before youre not bound by "should-haves". I don't know if it will give you any satisfaction, but I would sue both the employee who falsely reported you AND the person who encouraged her to do so . Plus the person who maliciously libeled you when the potential employer contacted your old company. Please let us know how this goes. The woman who made the malicious accusations is a danger to all women who've actually gone through this type of situation. I dont care how bad her petsonal life is right now, you did a kind thing by takking to her out of earshot of fellow employees. She turned around and lied. (Maybe this exposure of her character explains the divorce?) But it wouid definitely count against her in divorce court.
That's actually not true because someone in an office released the information that he's supposedly raped. Someone got led to that person in that office spreading that rumor so yeah, the deformation case is a legitimate thing. I'd really just ask my friend. That is a lawyer in that field, because, it happened on a workplace in that office and that same employee that works in the same office as that man did told that other group of people that he raped that person, that is definition character.
OP should never have returned. They will fire him as soon as they can find an excuse.
Then that is retaliation.
Another lawsuit
At least if that happens he has a public apology that he can make sure to give to any new employer
It may be argued as retaliation but getting people on tiny infractions nonstop is very easy and common things any places do, plus then theyll have an nda and make them sign the papers that initally were supposed to even keep the screw up from happening @IIGrayfoxII
And that will be called retaliation. At which point he will be able to sue them again.
@@KeepGoingTillYouCant NDAs are meaningless now.
Even small write ups can be proven to be retaliatory
It's always funny when they say zero tolerance and fail to realize that it doesn't mean zero evidence.
Zero tolerance means zero intelligence. It is all part of the believe all women BS. They don't want the feminazis marching on their business
Or how they claim zero tolerance against a guy, hold it with zero evidence, then have all the evidence against a woman, and hold zero responsability.
As someone that’s been falsely accused this is gold. One of the main reasons why I’ll have an attorney once I’m employed again. I’m in school using my GI bill for those of you curious.
Same. Wish I told cid I wanted a jag officer cause I wasted 7 months of my life because of a bitch doing this.
Do not return. Do not settle for anything less than millions. Multiple people in the company were involved and unreasonable. They nearly ruined your life, so make them set you up for life in return.
Yeah NEVER return to a company you tried to sue. They'll get rid of you as soon as they legally can.
In this situation, I would never go back because no matter what you will always have a bull’s-eye on your back because you sued the company
Unless I didn't have the money to continue suing them, there's no way I'd ever drop the case
This law suit is too valuable to drop. The attorney would have taken his pay on the back end.
@@Salaundre With corporate payouts like this a lot of attorney's would even do it pro bono just to be attached to such a high profile case, though as you say most would like some of that back-end juice.
Should have never returned.
Should have went public and ruined their reputation.
And sued them in court
Oh the court case would have destroyed them.
Paragraph guy time:
I pulled one of my direct reports, Deborah, into another room to discuss a few mistakes she made, but did not discipline her further. After this, she went to Joyce, one of the managers above me but not in my direct line of report. Equal to my boss in terms of reporting structure. When Joyce heard that I had taken Deborah into another room without any witnesses, she said to her that it was unprofessional.
Apparently her exact words were, "You know, you could accuse him of being inappropriate with you, and I would have no choice but to believe you." This was repeated several times, with a strong emphasis on "no choice". Joyce then asked Deborah if I had been inappropriate with her, saying, "It will only happen again if you don't speak up now. If you do now, we can take action."
Taking the not at all subtle hint from Joyce, Deborah accused me of exposing myself to her, and I was placed on leave pending an investigation. Joyce immediately sent out an e-mail that nobody besides the secretary was to speak with me without an attorney present, and told the IT guy, Paul, to deactivate my access.
James, my boss, had a resume from Terri, an employee in Joyce's department, applying for my job before close of business that day, and she was hired.
Paul and I talked, he provided me with video proving my innocence. The company continued to stonewall me, and refused to talk to me. When they did, they attempted to push me into arbitration, and to retroactively sign an arbitration agreement.
I cut my losses, took another job, and was ready to move on. Sandy, an employee in Joyce's department, broke protocol, talked to HR at the new company, told them I had sexually assaulted a subordinate, and cost me the job.
So that brings us up to date. My attorney and I launched a civil suit against the company and Deborah. Bet you're wondering how I know the above. Well good old Joyce said she'd protect Deborah if she came forward. Unfortunately, that only extended to her job. So when she was named individually in this suit, corporate told her they would not be providing her an attorney. After realizing that she'd be putting her house up for collateral, she was all too willing to throw Joyce under the bus.
Joyce went to Paul, the IT guy, who was one of her reports and gave him a list of footage to be procedurally wiped as part of an archive clearout. He pointed out that the incident with me was on that list and part of an ongoing investigation.
Joyce told him that it was no longer needed and to go ahead and wipe it. He refused citing the fact that it would still be requested in the event that the suit moved forward. She told him to pack his things as he was being terminated for insubordination. He called the company attorney and informed her what had happened.
The aftermath:
Several things happened at once, so I'll try to keep them as chronological as I can.
Deborah's attorney contacted mine stating that, conditional on me dropping the suit, she would admit that she lied and explain what went on behind the scenes.
Dana, the company attorney, got the call from my attorney with the details from Deborah shortly after she finished talking with Paul about him being terminated for refusing to destroy evidence.
Deborah and Joyce were terminated for cause that day. Paul was told that his job was safe.
My attorney received a call, and it was made clear that the company didn't want this to go any further and wanted to talk settlement.
I won't go into all of the details, but what I can say: I was offered my job back with a very fair increase, I received back pay from the date of suspension, and a public apology was offered from the very top. Terri is now working in Joyce's old position, she's incredibly cool about things, and felt horrified when she found out what happened. James and I are good now, and he has personally apologized for not sticking up for me
man that company is so kind for handing you a few thousand dollars 🥰🥰
I wouldn’t have ever even considered taking my job back after that. But I would have pushed it forward to the point I could retire quite comfortably
The settlement amount would most likely be around his annual salary x a few times. I don’t think he would have made millions, also attorneys fees and taxes would eat a huge chunk of that money.
The settlement is getting your job back, back pay, and a pay increase? Ummm.... no.
Boss: what is a reasonable offer.
Me: I'll be taking over the company, or I'll sue you out of existence.
Dont take the offer you can get so much more form them if you continue the lawsuit it is your choice but i would continue the lawsuit with everything they have done they are most likely going to make you sign that new paper and get you fired for something little or tip off an employee that if they say something like this again they will get a bonus or something and you will get fired and there will be nothing you can do
Why would you want your job back?
Full year's pay plus normal bonus and attorney all legal fees paid, the company admits FULL fault and contacts every single place that ANY employee has spoken to, and a PUBLIC apology is issued.
That or see you in court.
It would’ve been a conflict of interest to take the job back. Literally, especially after a suit was filed in court. Never take the job back after something like that. Never.
The guy basically let the company walk over him. I would have kept the lawsuit going and reamed them for millions. With such disgusting behavior, there's no way this was a one time thing, and if the arbitration clause paperwork wasn't being signed like it was supposed to by employees, there are bound to be more employees that were wronged that have grounds to get in on the lawsuit.
Can't believe that the guy would trust anyone again that would throw him under the bus like that.
"The opposite intimacy" lol
I swear this exact situation happened to a friend of mine - false accusations of this nature should be punishable by the penalty that would have (or has) been applied to the victim
Yeah sure as hell they offered those things while you could sue them for hundreds of thousands 😂😂
Funny how the company you poured your heart and soul into, would throw you under the bus without even thinking clearly, then wanted to make amends to save face.
Sue them for
Millions
I loved every seconds of this video 😍🥰
That aint enough.
“Male Privilege” 😂
“It would be unfair to fire your replacement since she did nothing wrong”
Oh really now, you’re telling me it’s wrong to fire someone for no reason?
Take as much money as you can maybe you can retire early cuz this
I wouldn’t have gone back, they hastily terminated him and replaced him without doing a proper investigation and therefore had no evidence whatsoever and a young girls word. If they had done a proper investigation they would have gone to the head of security or if they don’t have a security department then it would have been the head of the IT department and asked if they had cameras in XYZ room and if so can they see the footage for this date at this time, but they didn’t.
I’m not sure, but I think Most “can’t sue us” contracts are null and void if the cause for the suit is illegal activities (defamation)
At some point, when THEY disobeyed "protocol" . They fired you with no evidence (in fact not using evidence they SHOULD have.). If they can fire you, they can fire another employee Under NO circumstances should you sign ANYTHING after the fact without your lawyers approval. And if you never signed anything before youre not bound by "should-haves".
I don't know if it will give you any satisfaction, but I would sue both the employee who falsely reported you AND the person who encouraged her to do so . Plus the person who maliciously libeled you when the potential employer contacted your old company.
Please let us know how this goes. The woman who made the malicious accusations is a danger to all women who've actually gone through this type of situation. I dont care how bad her petsonal life is right now, you did a kind thing by takking to her out of earshot of fellow employees. She turned around and lied. (Maybe this exposure of her character explains the divorce?) But it wouid definitely count against her in divorce court.
Seems there's should be a next part
Nah million dollar settlement or nothing
That's actually not true because someone in an office released the information that he's supposedly raped. Someone got led to that person in that office spreading that rumor so yeah, the deformation case is a legitimate thing. I'd really just ask my friend. That is a lawyer in that field, because, it happened on a workplace in that office and that same employee that works in the same office as that man did told that other group of people that he raped that person, that is definition character.