The city was once a showcase of working-class affluence. Everyone had a nice car(s), their children were attending college and the houses were block after block of brick and stone. Neighborhoods that survived are some of the most beautiful in the country.
@@Fatbodypylethis year was the first year that residency in Detroit went up in a long time. Detroit is gaining population. I live a mile north of the city limit and I spend almost every day driving in Detroit. Things are changing mostly downtown where the big money is.
Bro this channel appears on my fyp and dawg I’m hooked no one ever does anything about Detroit and this is like top level content I’m like 19 and every one I show this to be hella invested in the channel
I appreciate that! We’re really aiming to show people the reality of real estate investing, especially in our home market of Detroit. I hope you continue to enjoy 🙏
Including the people that work and live in Detroit. They do nothing for the city or their neighborhoods. I agree. In addition, the neighborhood is very, very unsafe VERY
Seeing the proximity of the roof hole to the burned area, the fire department most likely cut the hole to vent the heat and smoke. It wasn't like the roof was rotting to the point of holes opening up. You can tell that house was built from much sturdier materials.
Great video and channel! I am Detroit (west side suburb) born and raised. My grandmother lived on Hereford street and aunt on Lochmoor. Many, many great memories there! I visit family there frequently and we always take a drive around Detroit to see what’s going on. I lived through the good times, then the riots in the late ‘60’s and the eventual fall of the auto industry in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s. Despite the challenges, we weathered it all and survived 😊
In other words, you are a suburbanite, not a Detroiter. Why do you people think you have the right to claim you are Detroiters? You will never hear anyone who is from Detroit claiming Redford or Taylor or Dearborn or Warren or Lincoln Park. What the fuck is wrong with you? How would you like it if I claimed the right to speak for whatever city you live in? You think the fact that your grandmother lived here gives you special rights? What the hell, I don't think I have special rights in Benton Harbor, where my grandparents lived- and I lived there myself as a small child, too!
Imagine being kicked out of the house that you paid for in full because you couldn’t pay the taxes every year on something that you already owned and paid taxes on.
I doubt anyone was "kicked out". looking at the condition it was vacant for years, and why it was condemned. Whoever owned the house cut their losses and moved on - they don't care.
There are a lot of rules that come with these builds that come with stiff penalties that you're leaving out. Rules about out of state ownership, flipping, and timelines for starters. They can result in fines of hundreds of dollars every day until they're corrected and go against the mortgage.
Only sometimes. If I pay cash for the building there is no mortgage. A lien is not the same thing. Second, the requirements are very easy and the dlba is more than willing to work with someone to avoid penalties.
Damn what a shame, looks like the builders actually put some love into building her. Versus modern day construction. A resurgence in Detroit would be so cool, these houses look so lovely.
Aussie here. Our house flooded when I was about 3 or 4 and I walked in the water to get a toy I wanted. Got nailed by 240 because a socket was underwater. Then when I was 5 the neighbour was building a new house. I used to go over and play with his kids and one day he was showing mum the work he had done, so I walked into the stairwell and put my arms up and grabbed hold of the doorway to swing over a gap. He’d done electrics that day and hadn’t capped off the stairwell. I grabbed hold of the 240 and got a good belt off it for about 10 seconds. Took off like a scalded cat.
Just stumbled on this video. I'm from Michigan, Rochester, born & raised. Spent a lot of time in Detroit in the 70's going to concerts. Left in the early 80's for Florida, still here. I'm very impressed, listening to you describe everything about the house. I wish you were in my area of Florida, sounds like I could use your expertise to remodel some areas in my 75 year old Craftsman. I will be doing my bathroom this fall. Need to take out the tub and put in a walk in shower. I will be using the small hex tiles for the floor in the shower and on the floor. Love them!
The problem with buying a house in Detroit is that the city services that you pay for don’t always get done, like trash or road maintenance. You are pretty much just roughing it but paying corrupt city-sized taxes.
I live in Windsor, Canada a ~10 minute drive from this house. The flippers near us usually buy existing double lots, knock down the garage or car port and build a cheap pre-fab house or Additional Dwelling Unit. (Walk away with an easy $500k profit) There is a housing shortage over here so they zoned all single family house lots to able to have 3 units. I wish we could buy some of these cheap houses and just commute across the ambassador.
One day they'll have to. It's what naturally happens as you need a larger tax base. These rehabs are going to skyrocket once we get to that stage. I've seen it all over the west coast which has much higher demand. Probably be 10-20 years though.
Renovating my home in Detroit I bought sight unseen. It was urban camping for awhile but I’m in the fun decorating stage now. It’s a GREAT city! Moving here was one of the best investments I ever made. When I’m done I’ll start on my 1st investment property here.
wow, my grandparents had an older home in dearborn that wasn't nearly that big but had several of the same little design elements and touches. Makes me feel soft thinking who might've lived there and loved that home before it was abandoned, it's so nice to give the home a second chance
An old laundry sink in the basement at about 5:00 mins in. Common in houses or garages until the big postwar construction boom; but through even the 30's, a washing machine was not an automatic assumption. House looks to be from the 20's, maybe earlier (though I'd go with the 20's as Detroit's population was at the start of a boom). Nice old bungalow. New roof, rewired, new plumbing, etc and it could be a standout (of course, a lousy rebuild will just give you a lousy house). I'll guess the shelves in the basement (at about 6:00) would have held Ball jars of pickles, jams and other preserves (canned cherries from the Grand Traverse Bay area?). And the old type with the glass top, not the metal one of today. Didn't see it, but almost certainly some sort of coal bunker (gas is most unlikely; fuel oil is possible). And an automatic stoker would have been unlikely, so dad (or the oldest son) would periodically go down and add a shovel of coal. However, likely only dad could bank the fire at night so it would blaze up with a new shovelful in the morning. Of course, it would have likely been some huge clunker of a furnace in those days; the one shown was maybe some newfangled one put in in the late 50's? The ironwork on the front porch looks more recent. Might be wrong. Oh yeah. May not apply in Detroit and places with cold winters. But, if termites ate a problem, be aware the old timers had some kind of dangerous solutions. One was small glass bottles containing some sort of bait and a *very* dangerous poison. These are small (may even be collectable), but work around old houses can turn them up. Sometimes breaking them in the process.
@@SanbornConstructionGroup I remember seeing a couple of Nicole Curtis where she constantly complained about stolen tools. The person responding made quite the point of where he lives.
You cross the border into Windsor, and that same house renovated is 800k. I was I Detroit for the NCAA Basketball tournament and I couldn't believe these houses were left to decay
I was visiting Detroit during NCAA sweet 16 tournament and couldn't believe the great architecture and good bones a lot of these abandoned houses had. Like to see more on cost of rebuilding these homes and processes. Maybe what areas of Metro Detroit are good and safe to rebuild.
My father was born in Detroit in 1918. My grandparents bought the house new. I have pics of the new house. I’ve always been intrigued by the houses. I love them. I have been thinking about buying an old house there. I still have relatives there that I have never met, but we have talked. Watching you has renewed my interest.
@@SanbornConstructionGroup I can't believe you haven't met Keith and Evan, yet! They are geniuses when it comes to rehabbing those houses in Detroit that have been abandoned. You should watch their show on HGTV. I think they are expanding to New Orleans, too. I look forward to their new season this fall. Btw, I've been to Detroit several times when my sister lived there, but she left and moved back South to be near family when her husband died. I always enjoyed my visit. KEEP fighting for Detroit, guys, it's worth saving! ❤❤👍👍😊😊🙏🙏
My aunt and uncle lived in Dearborn all their married lives and I visited often. I hope the region comes back. Not sure what our future economy will look like anywhere but we each need to live somewhere. Nice to see someone working to save what can be saved. Thanks for all you are doing and showing to the world.
I appreciate that! The economy is definitely going to be turbulent for a while coming into election season but we’re doing what we can to save what can be saved.
the contacts are part of a closed electrical circuit that sets off the alarm if the circuit is broken by the contacts moving apart from each other or by losing power somewhere in the circuit from a cut wire. you need a completed circuit to send a ping.
Some of those old boilers were insulated with asbestos and removal by a hazmat firm is required. I know of one property, the new owner tried busting up the old boiler with a sledgehammer. The county inspector condemned the house until hazmat team removed the asbestos which now contaminated the entire house.
I can't see the overhead electric secondary bus. House built before WW2 and sometimes into the 50s were often on the old 5,OOO volt distribution systems. And yes, some houses were just wired 110/120 volts. These old primary systems were replaced most commonly with 15,OO0 volt systems. This required replacing the transformers and if needed the secondary bus. If you follow the house service wire back to the secondary bus you are like to see three wire,120/240 volt. So upgrading to a 220v volt house is the course to take.
I saw a couple nice abandoned houses on the same street when I went for my long bike ride. They both have very overgrown grass and the license plate sticker expired over 25 years ago. It's not on the market either and no bank owned information. I'll probably talk to the neighbors next time I'm in the area and see what information they have.
120v probably won't kill you is a stupid thing to say. Voltage doesn't kill you. The circumstances of HOW you were electrocuted is what's going to determine if you get killed. Touch 120v while on an extension ladder, you're going to get hurt. Take enough amperage because you were wet or something it doesn't matter what the voltage was.
Stripping a house like that down just to take all the wood for a new construction is valuable in my opinion. This one would have old growth wood. Obviously not a 30~40 grand profit, but less work and get something valuable. Also, can use other parts of the house for other remodel projects.
Imagine buying a home like this one. Then watch a show like this exact one, with some guy saying someone just bought this home as he is walking through your purchased home. The first thing you have to purchase and post is a no trespassing sign, before any kind of work starts.
🤣 I don’t think you understand. There are no doors on the house. Imagine have a house in Detroit with no doors and worrying about a UA-cam video talking about how cool it is by the guy rehabbing multiple houses on your same block 🤣
I grew up in the Downriver area and saw Detroit in its glory days. It’s great to see that it is starting to be rebuilt. There are a lot of beautiful brick homes in Detroit and it was always very sad to see them abandoned. I would worry about the crime situation though as it seems that a lot of Detroit has turned into a lawless hell hole. And the fact that Detroit has a history of corrupt politicians. I do hope the city continues to improve. It would be great for the people who live there!
How much for asbestos abatement? If you have good crews, the numbers work, but i have trouble finding reliable and affordable crew, and home Depot stuff has surged in cost
Thankfully we’re the contractors so we know we can rely on ourselves! 😂 We’re also the highest tier purchaser at home depot so we get great deals, which get passed to clients to keep it affordable.
Yeah I mean, here in Grosse Pointe with my two story duplex. The furnace itself might be cheap but there’s no way to run ducting without massive tear up (to second floor). So we keep the old steam goin.
pretty cool area especially if a person is into historic homes or can re-hab one of these houses. I don't live in Detroit but have been through many of the historic neighborhoods. Lots of cool homes up there. One Q that does come up is once a person buys one of these and begins work on it how do you secure it during the process? Otherwise the next day a person would come back and find the newly installed AC or furnace may no longer be there.
Very true, we love Detroits architecture and character. Good question, we typically don’t install major items (furnace, hwt, etc) until day of move in for a tenant/homeowner or day of closing for a new buyer. We also budget an extra door and window into every budget lol
Low voltage high hazard was memo graph, yes I am that old, sheet explaining the hazards of 110v or 120v AC electric. At 120 volts 1/10th of an ampere passing through the heart can throw you into fibrillation. All the 100v volt circit I have encountered are really 120 volts.
8-10k for hvac with ducting for a house that big is crazy cheap. In Toronto they want 10k just to re and re a HVAC system. Go to British Columbia and it's 14k.
Land banks are in NYS also. Used to be common in Albany, not ao much anymore there. Syracuse still does it. You had opportunity before 2019 to buy house from Albany landbank for as little as $5000. Some of them did not need much rehab.. Schenectady has" City of property." With code estimate for repair say fifty thousand dollars... Not as common they there either.. Same principle I guess as Detroit.
Cost wise I'd pass on two story houses. Are neighbor hoods part of the selection process or do you choose where they're doing restorations ? Does city offer you incentives to take restoration on?
I wouldn’t mind the house flippers so much if they didn’t do such bad work and ripping out of some wonderful architectural features. My neighborhood is being gentrified and it sucks.
I live in a 100+ year old house in Wayne, and our boiler/radiator system is still going strong. Thankfully, we do have a regular boiler guy who checks in on it and keeps it running, every winter.
Well with a fuse box full of 30amp fuses (the green ones) I,m not surprised there was an electrical fire in there! Old houses of that age circuits are most always 15amps max.
I must correct you. Hot Water or Steam Heat is more Efficient than Forced Air But yes, it is more expensive. Especially when it comes time for cooling, it is more inconvenient. Lastly, in a city like Detroit, your more likely to have your furnace stolen, than you are your boiler.
It may be more effective at heating, you’re probably right, but as a whole system for heating and cooling evenly I don’t think it’s as efficient. But you are correct, it’ll definitely get stolen 🤣
2:33 Exactly! So why try to change something you can never do. Dayton? Same blight. Yes! 🙌🏼 You have several Uppity areas. For the most part so many were ‘were’ Beautiful now stripped and burnt! 🔥
I had seen a home on Grand River Ave Detroit in 1975. It was beautiful wood work all built without a nail. I knew the owner who passed away in January of 1982. I wish I would have asked for ownership of that house by making a deal of some kind. But at that time I didn't know much about homes at that time as I know now. He also had a masonic ring that he had paid $80k for it in 1940. And he showed me the power of that ring by taking me to different places. It is that knowledge that I know what is going on in Metro Detroit today, i.e. Corruption etc. University of Detroit changed their name and berried their past with it etc. etc.
Mason have the power of lucifer via love of the truth 🎩 free and accepted . Albert Pike sure was a great intellectual. Doctrines and covenant is a masterpiece of literature.
Residential 220v is just as safe as 110v. To get shocked by the full 220v you would already have to be touching one side of the 220 plug then touch the other side, it is only 220v between the 2 phases.
I used to live on 8 mile rd on Westphalia street in Detroit. Our house burnt down after we left do to someone not opening the Flue or damper when they started a fire in our fireplace.Burned the whole thing down.
I don’t think you could rebuild this. The brickwork and architecture just doesn’t really exist anymore. The capable masons have mostly retired or are ridiculously expensive
@@SanbornConstructionGroup Actually I meant a new house of any style, not an exact remake. In other words why don't they just bulldoze these places and build new ones.
I'm just curious. So they get these houses back livable but what's to stop it from reverting right back. I could be wrong but isn't Detroit just as bad now as it was in the past. I don't know but please don't think that I mean anything bad by it its just what we still hear from time to time. Anyway nice work and hopefully it helps to bring the city back. Cool video I just stumbled across it 👍🔧
Very cool video. I live in California & the idea of getting an almost free house & putting in the time/effort on a renovation for this cost is awesome. Young people should jump on this kinda thing
Proceed with caution. A lot of these “free” houses (which you would have to pay a lot to refurbish) may have liens/back taxes owed on them. So for the cheap price of $1 you could buy the privilege of paying someone else’s debt. A nice remodeled house in a blighted neighborhood is a risky proposition. I wouldn’t advise anyone to “jump” on it, think about it a little first
Italy and Japan offer the same deal, 100.00 homes that are villas, or country homes. But you must pay all the rebuild, renovations yourself, and rherexare timelines.
@jmason61 oh I think there are hidden issues foreign and domestic. Otherwise why did Detroit let some very nice still functional homes be Inhabited by gangs, and homeless? On streets with homeowners terrified, and taxes still climbing. 3 yrs ago we were watching videos on houses still liveable, being decimated by homeless there. For Japan, the homes must be rebuilt to the village standards using the methods that originally built the home, and include hours of service to the elders in the village as all the young have left for the city. After all of that ypu are not the permanent owner, and must renew applications to stay in the country. OK, great deal...not.
Bless your heart for doing it. 100 grand? For Detroit? I heard a guy got shot and the police came a day later/ambulances takes 3-4 hours to arrive. More than likely house'll sit around and wind up just as bad as it was when you found it.
Police don’t come. You’re on your own out here. If I lived in the city and paid Detroit taxes I’d be furious about that, but I don’t. We just stay ready
@@SanbornConstructionGroup How interesting. Makes you wonder why the owners abandoned the house instead of selling it if it’s in a rich (or a desireable) area. Maybe the two blocks makes a huge difference.
@@enemyofYTemployees Actually, many folks abandoned the city of Detroit, to the tune of 50% of people left the city in the last 50 years. Folks just started to come back in the last 5 years.
It really gets you thinking. If All the idiots buying up new construction in TX, AZ, CA etc upwards of 400k. If they spent that same amount fixing up these beautiful vintage 1900s homes. how much VALUE these are still worth, character, architecture, SOLID walls and foundations. Detroit really has an opportunity to rebuild. Glad to see the Motor City up and running.
They don't make them like this anymore. That is why saving them is so important. Sure you could tear it down but the quality of the house replacing it wouldn't be close to this from the bricks to the wood being used to build out the frame. I would love to do this in st.louis area but with decontruct and reuse the material to build the houses again if the home is basically unsalvageable. These are gems compared to here. We have great brick homes that need saving but some the foundations are trash crumbling away. So save the bricks the wood then rebuild new with old stuff as much as possible. Kinda crazy and stupid. I hate seeing the bricks go to waste.
So this needs at minimum: new roof, new electrical, new heating/cooling system, plumbing needs reworking, some structural fixes in the framing and foundation, and finally insulation and drywall. Just to make it livable. Honestly, if I got an offer of $1 for the lot, that isn't that bad. Just have to go in with the knowledge that I will essentially be taking the house down to the studs more likely than not.
Too late now, but if I had been educated in this stuff back in my 20's and had someone show me things and take me with them when they worked in these houses and stuff... I would have loved to have done this stuff including some of the work on the houses. Sadly, I am a little past my prime years and my body says NO lol.
in some cities they sell these husks for 88k, complete bonkers. at this point the building has a salvage value of zero and should not even be considered a dwelling.
I really hope Detroit comes back to a great residential community!
Here’s to hoping!
It wont. Sorry.
It's up to the residents. Voting for the right, responsible leadership, is a good place to start.
The city was once a showcase of working-class affluence. Everyone had a nice car(s), their children were attending college and the houses were block after block of brick and stone. Neighborhoods that survived are some of the most beautiful in the country.
@@Fatbodypylethis year was the first year that residency in Detroit went up in a long time. Detroit is gaining population. I live a mile north of the city limit and I spend almost every day driving in Detroit. Things are changing mostly downtown where the big money is.
Bro this channel appears on my fyp and dawg I’m hooked no one ever does anything about Detroit and this is like top level content I’m like 19 and every one I show this to be hella invested in the channel
I appreciate that! We’re really aiming to show people the reality of real estate investing, especially in our home market of Detroit. I hope you continue to enjoy 🙏
Ditto..so they better not come on here talking $hit about our city..lol
Including the people that work and live in Detroit. They do nothing for the city or their neighborhoods. I agree.
In addition, the neighborhood is very, very unsafe VERY
Lots of people are doing stuff. If they invested 4 years ago they made 50% on property value alone
Seeing the proximity of the roof hole to the burned area, the fire department most likely cut the hole to vent the heat and smoke. It wasn't like the roof was rotting to the point of holes opening up. You can tell that house was built from much sturdier materials.
It’s sad those houses were so beautiful and well made!
Homes were trashed broken into them vandalized with rads and wore copper pipe stolen...
Goto salvage centers for old floors need a armed guard to prevent thefts
But da hood is run down miñute they fix the thieves swoop in and hit it
Your family made it blight. Own up.
Great video and channel! I am Detroit (west side suburb) born and raised. My grandmother lived on Hereford street and aunt on Lochmoor. Many, many great memories there! I visit family there frequently and we always take a drive around Detroit to see what’s going on. I lived through the good times, then the riots in the late ‘60’s and the eventual fall of the auto industry in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s. Despite the challenges, we weathered it all and survived 😊
The city is trying hard to come back!
In other words, you are a suburbanite, not a Detroiter. Why do you people think you have the right to claim you are Detroiters? You will never hear anyone who is from Detroit claiming Redford or Taylor or Dearborn or Warren or Lincoln Park. What the fuck is wrong with you? How would you like it if I claimed the right to speak for whatever city you live in?
You think the fact that your grandmother lived here gives you special rights? What the hell, I don't think I have special rights in Benton Harbor, where my grandparents lived- and I lived there myself as a small child, too!
So happy to see people restoring old houses!! Reinvigorating the community
I totally agree!
Imagine being kicked out of the house that you paid for in full because you couldn’t pay the taxes every year on something that you already owned and paid taxes on.
Just like Dave mustaine said, freedom isn’t free.
Maybe they could opt out of firefighter, police, and emt services next time.
@@LeonardMcFacepunch
Actually, property taxes generally go to schools.
I doubt anyone was "kicked out". looking at the condition it was vacant for years, and why it was condemned. Whoever owned the house cut their losses and moved on - they don't care.
@@immesobiteme That was true 30 years ago until Public Act 145 came along.
There are a lot of rules that come with these builds that come with stiff penalties that you're leaving out. Rules about out of state ownership, flipping, and timelines for starters. They can result in fines of hundreds of dollars every day until they're corrected and go against the mortgage.
Only sometimes. If I pay cash for the building there is no mortgage. A lien is not the same thing. Second, the requirements are very easy and the dlba is more than willing to work with someone to avoid penalties.
Damn what a shame, looks like the builders actually put some love into building her. Versus modern day construction. A resurgence in Detroit would be so cool, these houses look so lovely.
You can’t beat the Detroit architecture. We’re trying! We just need better politicians and reasons for manufacturing to move back to the area
Aussie here. Our house flooded when I was about 3 or 4 and I walked in the water to get a toy I wanted. Got nailed by 240 because a socket was underwater. Then when I was 5 the neighbour was building a new house. I used to go over and play with his kids and one day he was showing mum the work he had done, so I walked into the stairwell and put my arms up and grabbed hold of the doorway to swing over a gap. He’d done electrics that day and hadn’t capped off the stairwell. I grabbed hold of the 240 and got a good belt off it for about 10 seconds. Took off like a scalded cat.
I can’t believe you’re alive, water and electricity do not mix lol
@@SanbornConstructionGroup yeah 0/10 do not recommend. Bitten by a red back spider 2 times also.
@@thesausage351 Another Aussie here. You have used up 4 of your 9 lives - if you are a cat! 😆 Please don't lose any more!
@@01baia probably another 1 or 2 also, I was bitten by a redback when I was 4, and then again when I was in my 20’s.
Better that than a shark
Just stumbled on this video. I'm from Michigan, Rochester, born & raised. Spent a lot of time in Detroit in the 70's going to concerts. Left in the early 80's for Florida, still here.
I'm very impressed, listening to you describe everything about the house. I wish you were in my area of Florida, sounds like I could use your expertise to remodel some areas in my 75 year old Craftsman. I will be doing my bathroom this fall. Need to take out the tub and put in a walk in shower. I will be using the small hex tiles for the floor in the shower and on the floor. Love them!
I appreciate that! That’s awesome, we just did the same conversation in another house up here
Cities, need to be reborn from time to time. Sounds like Detroit is finding a way to come back. Excellent.
It’s definitely trying
lol.
Go visit sometime 😂
@@Paint-brigade1776 I may just do that
The problem with buying a house in Detroit is that the city services that you pay for don’t always get done, like trash or road maintenance. You are pretty much just roughing it but paying corrupt city-sized taxes.
They are not good for snow removal either. i lived on east side for five years.
who voted them in office again and again?
@@merlinidlehands3302 democrats who live in the cemeteries.
@@erikriza7165 Chuckle. You probably want to vote for the attempted election thief. Also, the 2016 election was stolen.
It can be rebuilt if there is an honest leader
I live in Windsor, Canada a ~10 minute drive from this house. The flippers near us usually buy existing double lots, knock down the garage or car port and build a cheap pre-fab house or Additional Dwelling Unit. (Walk away with an easy $500k profit) There is a housing shortage over here so they zoned all single family house lots to able to have 3 units. I wish we could buy some of these cheap houses and just commute across the ambassador.
Unfortunately the city won’t allow us to do that kind of build
One day they'll have to. It's what naturally happens as you need a larger tax base. These rehabs are going to skyrocket once we get to that stage. I've seen it all over the west coast which has much higher demand. Probably be 10-20 years though.
Renovating my home in Detroit I bought sight unseen. It was urban camping for awhile but I’m in the fun decorating stage now. It’s a GREAT city! Moving here was one of the best investments I ever made. When I’m done I’ll start on my 1st investment property here.
It’s definitely a good investment if you know what you’re doing!
How much did you pay for the house?
I kinda like that house's layout. The fact that when you break it down, it's really not *that* bad off.
It’s not bad once it’s put back together 🤣
wow, my grandparents had an older home in dearborn that wasn't nearly that big but had several of the same little design elements and touches. Makes me feel soft thinking who might've lived there and loved that home before it was abandoned, it's so nice to give the home a second chance
You can’t be the old architecture etc
An old laundry sink in the basement at about 5:00 mins in. Common in houses or garages until the big postwar construction boom; but through even the 30's, a washing machine was not an automatic assumption. House looks to be from the 20's, maybe earlier (though I'd go with the 20's as Detroit's population was at the start of a boom). Nice old bungalow. New roof, rewired, new plumbing, etc and it could be a standout (of course, a lousy rebuild will just give you a lousy house).
I'll guess the shelves in the basement (at about 6:00) would have held Ball jars of pickles, jams and other preserves (canned cherries from the Grand Traverse Bay area?). And the old type with the glass top, not the metal one of today. Didn't see it, but almost certainly some sort of coal bunker (gas is most unlikely; fuel oil is possible). And an automatic stoker would have been unlikely, so dad (or the oldest son) would periodically go down and add a shovel of coal. However, likely only dad could bank the fire at night so it would blaze up with a new shovelful in the morning. Of course, it would have likely been some huge clunker of a furnace in those days; the one shown was maybe some newfangled one put in in the late 50's?
The ironwork on the front porch looks more recent. Might be wrong.
Oh yeah. May not apply in Detroit and places with cold winters. But, if termites ate a problem, be aware the old timers had some kind of dangerous solutions. One was small glass bottles containing some sort of bait and a *very* dangerous poison. These are small (may even be collectable), but work around old houses can turn them up. Sometimes breaking them in the process.
In my area that's a $20k house like it is and a 350K when it's done. I'd buy that house all day, solid as a rock
Agreed! Its worth the dollar all day
@@SanbornConstructionGroup
I remember seeing a couple of Nicole Curtis where she constantly complained about stolen tools.
The person responding made quite the point of where he lives.
Neighborhood is what counts. It might be high crime.
You cross the border into Windsor, and that same house renovated is 800k. I was I Detroit for the NCAA Basketball tournament and I couldn't believe these houses were left to decay
@@colleb95 yea sandborn is doing the opposite of good location i pray he has supernatural help
I was visiting Detroit during NCAA sweet 16 tournament and couldn't believe the great architecture and good bones a lot of these abandoned houses had. Like to see more on cost of rebuilding these homes and processes. Maybe what areas of Metro Detroit are good and safe to rebuild.
We’re working on this video!
My father was born in Detroit in 1918. My grandparents bought the house new. I have pics of the new house. I’ve always been intrigued by the houses. I love them. I have been thinking about buying an old house there. I still have relatives there that I have never met, but we have talked. Watching you has renewed my interest.
I tell ya, you just can’t be the architecture and brick work on the old Detroit homes
The 2 guy's on HG TV's Bargain Block are working on house's in Detroit. Their names are Keith and Evan, they are making a huge difference in Detroit!!
I’d love to meet them. We’re cranking 20-30 a month!
@@SanbornConstructionGroup You should meet them! They are awesome.
@@SanbornConstructionGroup I can't believe you haven't met Keith and Evan, yet! They are geniuses when it comes to rehabbing those houses in Detroit that have been abandoned. You should watch their show on HGTV. I think they are expanding to New Orleans, too. I look forward to their new season this fall. Btw, I've been to Detroit several times when my sister lived there, but she left and moved back South to be near family when her husband died. I always enjoyed my visit. KEEP fighting for Detroit, guys, it's worth saving! ❤❤👍👍😊😊🙏🙏
white saviors / gentrifiers
My aunt and uncle lived in Dearborn all their married lives and I visited often. I hope the region comes back. Not sure what our future economy will look like anywhere but we each need to live somewhere. Nice to see someone working to save what can be saved. Thanks for all you are doing and showing to the world.
I appreciate that! The economy is definitely going to be turbulent for a while coming into election season but we’re doing what we can to save what can be saved.
the contacts are part of a closed electrical circuit that sets off the alarm if the circuit is broken by the contacts moving apart from each other or by losing power somewhere in the circuit from a cut wire. you need a completed circuit to send a ping.
Some of those old boilers were insulated with asbestos and removal by a hazmat firm is required. I know of one property, the new owner tried busting up the old boiler with a sledgehammer. The county inspector condemned the house until hazmat team removed the asbestos which now contaminated the entire house.
My Grandma and Grandpa were from Detroit (living there in 1920s to 1960s); what a story that city is. Good luck Detroit!
Here’s to hoping it comes back!
I can't see the overhead electric secondary bus. House built before WW2 and sometimes into the 50s were often on the old 5,OOO volt distribution systems. And yes, some houses were just wired 110/120 volts. These old primary systems were replaced most commonly with 15,OO0 volt systems. This required replacing the transformers and if needed the secondary bus. If you follow the house service wire back to the secondary bus you are like to see three wire,120/240 volt. So upgrading to a 220v volt house is the course to take.
Thank you for the tour. It was very informative and interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I saw a couple nice abandoned houses on the same street when I went for my long bike ride. They both have very overgrown grass and the license plate sticker expired over 25 years ago. It's not on the market either and no bank owned information. I'll probably talk to the neighbors next time I'm in the area and see what information they have.
Neighbors always seem to know 🤣
It will look great restored, ready for a new family to live it in and make memories.
120v probably won't kill you is a stupid thing to say. Voltage doesn't kill you. The circumstances of HOW you were electrocuted is what's going to determine if you get killed. Touch 120v while on an extension ladder, you're going to get hurt. Take enough amperage because you were wet or something it doesn't matter what the voltage was.
Exactly. One Amp can kill.
Good luck with the refurb, Nick. Would love to see an update when its finished
Thanks JoJo!
I’m glad someone is saving it. Property is so expensive on the west coast.
It’s a whole different game here!
I used to live in NorthEast Michigan and we had a boiler for baseboard heating, I liked it better than forced air.
I’m forced air all the way!
Stripping a house like that down just to take all the wood for a new construction is valuable in my opinion. This one would have old growth wood. Obviously not a 30~40 grand profit, but less work and get something valuable. Also, can use other parts of the house for other remodel projects.
I wouldn’t use this wood in new construction. New should be new, rehabbed or refurbished should be that
Imagine buying a home like this one. Then watch a show like this exact one, with some guy saying someone just bought this home as he is walking through your purchased home. The first thing you have to purchase and post is a no trespassing sign, before any kind of work starts.
🤣 I don’t think you understand. There are no doors on the house. Imagine have a house in Detroit with no doors and worrying about a UA-cam video talking about how cool it is by the guy rehabbing multiple houses on your same block 🤣
I grew up in the Downriver area and saw Detroit in its glory days. It’s great to see that it is starting to be rebuilt. There are a lot of beautiful brick homes in Detroit and it was always very sad to see them abandoned. I would worry about the crime situation though as it seems that a lot of Detroit has turned into a lawless hell hole. And the fact that Detroit has a history of corrupt politicians. I do hope the city continues to improve. It would be great for the people who live there!
It starts from the top. We need strong leadership and someone not afraid to use the courts and police as intended
@@SanbornConstructionGroup What do you mean by "use the courts and police as intended"?
@@synupps877 You know exactly what he means- he means exactly the same thing the Ku Klux Klan means when they say that.
How much for asbestos abatement? If you have good crews, the numbers work, but i have trouble finding reliable and affordable crew, and home Depot stuff has surged in cost
Thankfully we’re the contractors so we know we can rely on ourselves! 😂 We’re also the highest tier purchaser at home depot so we get great deals, which get passed to clients to keep it affordable.
Yeah I mean, here in Grosse Pointe with my two story duplex. The furnace itself might be cheap but there’s no way to run ducting without massive tear up (to second floor). So we keep the old steam goin.
Oh and it may not appear it. But boiler maintenance and repair techs are quite common closer to detroit. Supreme being the one I hear most often.
Most of what we work on is in this condition so we don’t have to worry about running duct, it’s all open
@@SanbornConstructionGroup I'm not sure if I should say ...convenient? haha maybe not right word. Sounds like a lot of work.
That was interesting, thanks. Nice to see some of those old houses being saved
Glad you enjoyed it!
pretty cool area especially if a person is into historic homes or can re-hab one of these houses. I don't live in Detroit but have been through many of the historic neighborhoods. Lots of cool homes up there. One Q that does come up is once a person buys one of these and begins work on it how do you secure it during the process? Otherwise the next day a person would come back and find the newly installed AC or furnace may no longer be there.
Very true, we love Detroits architecture and character. Good question, we typically don’t install major items (furnace, hwt, etc) until day of move in for a tenant/homeowner or day of closing for a new buyer. We also budget an extra door and window into every budget lol
Low voltage high hazard was memo graph, yes I am that old, sheet explaining the hazards of 110v or 120v AC electric. At 120 volts 1/10th of an ampere passing through the heart can throw you into fibrillation. All the 100v volt circit I have encountered are really 120 volts.
This is very cool! That house looks rough though. What do you think the material cost of something like this runs?
Thanks! It’s definitely rough. Material varies quite a bit based on style and level of finish. I would ball park $30,000’ish
Could you imagine, this was your childhood home and your now watching it on yt...wild. so its 1 dollar plus school/property taxes?
Typically when you buy from the landbank you get a period of 1-5 years where there are no taxes on it to incentivize people to do it
8-10k for hvac with ducting for a house that big is crazy cheap. In Toronto they want 10k just to re and re a HVAC system. Go to British Columbia and it's 14k.
10k on a remod is about the average I’d expect to pay here with ducts
Land banks are in NYS also. Used to be common in Albany, not ao much anymore there. Syracuse still does it. You had opportunity before 2019 to buy house from Albany landbank for as little as $5000. Some of them did not need much rehab.. Schenectady has" City of property." With code estimate for repair say fifty thousand dollars... Not as common they there either.. Same principle I guess as Detroit.
Same idea, Detroit just has a lot more of them
Literally as soon as I can get my house on the market this is exactly what I’m trying to do! I had hoped $60K-80K sounded like a realistic budget 🤞🏽
Depends on the house but 60-80k can typically get it done!
Cost wise I'd pass on two story houses. Are neighbor hoods part of the selection process or do you choose where they're doing restorations ? Does city offer you incentives to take restoration on?
If I buy a house from the DLBA can ya'll fix it?
Me and my wife do houses in Baltimore, MD
Trying to expand our portfolio.
Yes we can! We do that for many clients
@@SanbornConstructionGroup
Talking to you very soon
I wouldn’t mind the house flippers so much if they didn’t do such bad work and ripping out of some wonderful architectural features. My neighborhood is being gentrified and it sucks.
I live in a 100+ year old house in Wayne, and our boiler/radiator system is still going strong. Thankfully, we do have a regular boiler guy who checks in on it and keeps it running, every winter.
Hey, do you think your boiler guy would work in Detroit? It's really hard to find tradesmen here now. Please post a link!!!
How long would it take for a project like that?
I would budget between 90-120 days start to finish
Well with a fuse box full of 30amp fuses (the green ones) I,m not surprised there was an electrical fire in there! Old houses of that age circuits are most always 15amps max.
I must correct you.
Hot Water or Steam Heat is more Efficient than Forced Air
But yes, it is more expensive.
Especially when it comes time for cooling, it is more inconvenient.
Lastly, in a city like Detroit, your more likely to have your furnace stolen, than you are your boiler.
It may be more effective at heating, you’re probably right, but as a whole system for heating and cooling evenly I don’t think it’s as efficient. But you are correct, it’ll definitely get stolen 🤣
2:33 Exactly! So why try to change something you can never do.
Dayton?
Same blight.
Yes! 🙌🏼 You have several Uppity areas.
For the most part so many were ‘were’ Beautiful now stripped and burnt! 🔥
Idk what you’re saying but yes 🤣🤙
I had seen a home on Grand River Ave Detroit in 1975. It was beautiful wood work all built without a nail. I knew the owner who passed away in January of 1982. I wish I would have asked for ownership of that house by making a deal of some kind. But at that time I didn't know much about homes at that time as I know now. He also had a masonic ring that he had paid $80k for it in 1940. And he showed me the power of that ring by taking me to different places. It is that knowledge that I know what is going on in Metro Detroit today, i.e. Corruption etc. University of Detroit changed their name and berried their past with it etc. etc.
Mason have the power of lucifer via love of the truth 🎩 free and accepted . Albert Pike sure was a great intellectual. Doctrines and covenant is a masterpiece of literature.
content is next level man!!
Thank you!
so if I bye a home do I have to pay the old owner tax's
No, you usually get a 1-5 year tax waiver period
A modern efficient boiler with rehabbed radiators is a possibility. And avoids ductwork that needs to be cleaned every few years.
Too expensive for the area
Bargain Block needs to do this one
Great walk through. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love that old brickwork. Nice bones. Thanks for posting!
I agree! We love Detroits old architecture
@@SanbornConstructionGroup When my hubby and I visit we take cool photos of old auto plants, etc. Originally from Hazel Park :-)
Residential 220v is just as safe as 110v. To get shocked by the full 220v you would already have to be touching one side of the 220 plug then touch the other side, it is only 220v between the 2 phases.
How much would the rehab cost? If you buy the house for $1, don't you have to pay the back taxes?
I used to live on 8 mile rd on Westphalia street in Detroit. Our house burnt down after we left do to someone not opening the Flue or damper when they started a fire in our fireplace.Burned the whole thing down.
very interesting, thank you, and this channel is brand new :)
It is brand new! Follow along for more, we’ll keep the interesting content coming!
What would be the difference in cost on a place this bad if you bulldozed it and built a new house apposed to gutting it and rebuilding?
I don’t think you could rebuild this. The brickwork and architecture just doesn’t really exist anymore. The capable masons have mostly retired or are ridiculously expensive
@@SanbornConstructionGroup Actually I meant a new house of any style, not an exact remake. In other words why don't they just bulldoze these places and build new ones.
When someone knows absolutely nothing about electricity they say they’ll work with 120 but not 240. All electricians laugh at that.
I've been hit by 220, 208 and 240 volts didn't drop me. 347 and 600 are another story.
Nobody cares. Congrats you fix light switches.
Also may I come get that furnace? I try to save vintage things
It’s actually a boiler, but it’s not mine to give away
I love all those old homes. I hope they try to restore as much as possible.
You and me both!
I'm just curious. So they get these houses back livable but what's to stop it from reverting right back. I could be wrong but isn't Detroit just as bad now as it was in the past. I don't know but please don't think that I mean anything bad by it its just what we still hear from time to time. Anyway nice work and hopefully it helps to bring the city back. Cool video I just stumbled across it 👍🔧
Most of the time the properties are used as rentals for section 8 or VA
@@SanbornConstructionGroup nice ty for the response 👍 🇨🇦
Very cool video. I live in California & the idea of getting an almost free house & putting in the time/effort on a renovation for this cost is awesome. Young people should jump on this kinda thing
Thank you! A lot are trying
Proceed with caution. A lot of these “free” houses (which you would have to pay a lot to refurbish) may have liens/back taxes owed on them. So for the cheap price of $1 you could buy the privilege of paying someone else’s debt. A nice remodeled house in a blighted neighborhood is a risky proposition. I wouldn’t advise anyone to “jump” on it, think about it a little first
Italy and Japan offer the same deal, 100.00 homes that are villas, or country homes. But you must pay all the rebuild, renovations yourself, and rherexare timelines.
@@joywebster2678 yes I have heard about that too! But seems like a gigantic step to do all that in a foreign country?
@jmason61 oh I think there are hidden issues foreign and domestic. Otherwise why did Detroit let some very nice still functional homes be Inhabited by gangs, and homeless? On streets with homeowners terrified, and taxes still climbing. 3 yrs ago we were watching videos on houses still liveable, being decimated by homeless there. For Japan, the homes must be rebuilt to the village standards using the methods that originally built the home, and include hours of service to the elders in the village as all the young have left for the city. After all of that ypu are not the permanent owner, and must renew applications to stay in the country. OK, great deal...not.
What is Drywall ?
Not a wet wall
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Bless your heart for doing it. 100 grand? For Detroit? I heard a guy got shot and the police came a day later/ambulances takes 3-4 hours to arrive. More than likely house'll sit around and wind up just as bad as it was when you found it.
Police don’t come. You’re on your own out here. If I lived in the city and paid Detroit taxes I’d be furious about that, but I don’t. We just stay ready
Kind of wonder how much to ship 🚢 Such a house by train to Madison Wisconsin?
The only problem with fixing up a house in Detroit is when you’re done, it’s still in Detroit.
I wish I could buy a redo the whole block. Detroit had some beautiful neighborhoods.
It sure does. People are trying!
Looks like a rough area, especially if people are abandoning their homes. Why is that? Why did the area become so rough looking?
It’s actually about 2 blocks from a very rich area
@@SanbornConstructionGroup How interesting. Makes you wonder why the owners abandoned the house instead of selling it if it’s in a rich (or a desireable) area.
Maybe the two blocks makes a huge difference.
Can’t help but think we aren’t being told the whole story here.
@@enemyofYTemployees Actually, many folks abandoned the city of Detroit, to the tune of 50% of people left the city in the last 50 years. Folks just started to come back in the last 5 years.
This house is gonna be awesome when finished ❤
Yes it will!
Great info and walk through.
Thank you!
0:28 ummm so are you trespassing?
Sure am 🤷🏻♂️ no doors, windows, etc. I think I’m the least of the problem lol
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It really gets you thinking. If All the idiots buying up new construction in TX, AZ, CA etc upwards of 400k. If they spent that same amount fixing up these beautiful vintage 1900s homes. how much VALUE these are still worth, character, architecture, SOLID walls and foundations. Detroit really has an opportunity to rebuild. Glad to see the Motor City up and running.
They don't make them like this anymore. That is why saving them is so important. Sure you could tear it down but the quality of the house replacing it wouldn't be close to this from the bricks to the wood being used to build out the frame. I would love to do this in st.louis area but with decontruct and reuse the material to build the houses again if the home is basically unsalvageable. These are gems compared to here. We have great brick homes that need saving but some the foundations are trash crumbling away. So save the bricks the wood then rebuild new with old stuff as much as possible. Kinda crazy and stupid. I hate seeing the bricks go to waste.
So this needs at minimum: new roof, new electrical, new heating/cooling system, plumbing needs reworking, some structural fixes in the framing and foundation, and finally insulation and drywall. Just to make it livable. Honestly, if I got an offer of $1 for the lot, that isn't that bad. Just have to go in with the knowledge that I will essentially be taking the house down to the studs more likely than not.
It looks like that was a cool house back in its day. Hopefully it can be again.
Hopefully!
Too late now, but if I had been educated in this stuff back in my 20's and had someone show me things and take me with them when they worked in these houses and stuff... I would have loved to have done this stuff including some of the work on the houses. Sadly, I am a little past my prime years and my body says NO lol.
Yeah but man, radiator heat is so much nicer than hvac.
Truth!
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that;s too bad. there is a reason that most of Chicago and the East coast are heated with boilers. They are efficient and the heat is pleasant.
Ive been electrocuted by 220 before. Also its not the voltage that kills you, it's the amperage that kills you.
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in some cities they sell these husks for 88k, complete bonkers. at this point the building has a salvage value of zero and should not even be considered a dwelling.
Love your video 😊
Shocked to see the brass valves siting there still
That charred wood is some real weird water damage hahaha
Sometimes the cameraman doesn’t look at what I’m referencing 😂
@@SanbornConstructionGroup 😂😂😂 love it man keep up the content
MIL's house had wallpaper hung over those wall strips.
Wallpaper used to be a thing, not around here anymore
just subed to you bro. awesome job
Thank you! 🙏
Thanks for the vid, pretty interesting.
Glad you liked it, more coming!
You keep showing abandoned houses and talk about renovating but I never see a finished product.
omg, that house is so destroyed. How hard would it be to just knock it down and start over.
It wouldn’t be difficult but it would be cost prohibitive