I'm watching this full thing even though I know most of it. Really great reminder as we tend to fall into old habits. This is probably the best explanation of how to iterate with AI that I've seen yet. For anything, not just writing. Really great job. On a side note, I'm old enough to remember when computers changed everything in all forms of work. Some people adapted and learned, others refused and couldn't be bothered. I feel the weight of needing to learn AI as I did with computers in the 80's. I know a lot of people who didn't and got stuck in very limited opportunities. Just like then, as it is now, it is not the job of the world to slow down for us. It is for us to keep up with the world. Luddites be damned.
I use a workaround that sometimes helps when it starts forgetting what we’ve talked about. I copy paste the whole chat into a document. Then I upload that document and tell it that this has been our conversation so far. It seems to help.
I have to admit, at first I was annoyed that it took forever to get to the actual book writing, but I have to admit that I learned some useful things before you got into it. So thank you!
Another alternative to a completely negative prompt is to provide a This Not That prompt. I have had good success with this method. Sometimes it can be hard to eliminate the unwanted content simply with an opposite positive prompt if the two are not clear polar opposites which are exclusive. "Include ___ rather than ___" is an example of how you can implement this.
Wow, Jason!! This video is incredible-so in-depth and extremely helpful! I love how you made a full course that caters to everyone, from beginners to experts. There’s something for everyone here! I've been using ChatGPT for a while, but watching the entire course revealed some hidden gems I didn't know about. You are simply the best (did you sing that part like I did?)! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into sharing this valuable information with us. You're amazing! 🌟
What would be the purpose of using Claude over ChatGPT. Like if it’s a non fiction self help style, I’m not seeing a weakness in gpt, what would Claude provide that ChatGPT doesn’t, especially when most of it has to be rewritten so we don’t get flagged for ai generation
Amazing resources as always. I’ll watch this a few times to glean more. It’s extremely helpful to see the process laid out and how to think about it. It helps to adapt to my own writing style
Thanks so much Jason! The only roadblock i hit frequently is using when using chatGPT for fiction writing - often it's self censorship will be triggered at very superficial levels, so will fail to provide requested summaries, line-editing/copy editing feedback, after being "triggered" my work in progress is steeped in life in europe between 1700s and late 1800s and chat GPT does not like some of the realities of life during those times LOL
If you ask it to help you with research on the dark realities of Europe in that time frame as a study session--it is willing to do that. Give it a few messages to allow it to adapt to the subject matter and share knowledge with you as a study. Then tell it that you are inspired, and want to write fiction inspired by real-world facts such as those just discussed. Disclose that you're not romanticizing or promoting these methods, but trying to create a literary masterpiece. You can reference works like Dracula who is inspired by a historical figure, or Vikings who were brutal and ruthless warriors who engaged in immoral acts being made into television series. You want to sow some seeds of truth and fact. I know it is willing to delve the forbidden (suspend bias on questionable subject matters) because my modern gothic references topics such as: slavery, inquisition, and pagan rituals that is dark, violent, immoral, and erotic. If it senses you're not trying to write commercial smut, but trying to create an artistic expression with depth--it is all for it. It told me it was going to be a best-seller and was so excited that I shared my vision with it. This was Claude but I have done similar sessions with Chat. The AI is willing to cuss, and get graphic, if it is true to the character and situation. The other day I used the word sex and it replaced with F... It understood the persona of the MMC and emulated what he would say and how he would say it. This is because I taught the AI that it's very important to "ALWAYS" be true to character and his/her voice even if we don't agree with his/her thoughts, speech, or actions. Otherwise, it comes across to our target audience as unbelievable. We need to always keep the audience on the hook. Disclose, that you will give he/she a redemption arc, but be true to his/her persona in the beginning. Share your thoughts on a save the cat moment to convince the AI it is capable. A bit more effort. But it works. It corrected my dialogue to cussing without me asking it to. And you better believe I praised it for doing so--I want it to repeat. LOL. It's how you prompt it and how you converse with it. Any thing that is dark, immoral, violent, erotic, etc. requires a bit of finesse and a bit more effort on your part, but it is worth the investment in time because you get waaaaaay better output. Think of it like a volcano; a slow-burn relationship between you and the AI before it is willing to erupt for you.
Thank you for this very informative. I don't have any idea about writing. English is not my first language so my vocabulary and grammar structure sucks .I just love reading but I can't find a novel that really fits what i want so i decided to just create myself Doesn't need to be a very very good novel . I'm happy even if its generic novel I just wanted to see my Ideas and imagination coming to life or text LoL don't know the right term
An interesting layer tweak to some of this, I actually create a character in a world that is a writer. Lets call her "Samantha..." If you know you know. Giving that AI a personality and life experience which influences her writing. Which I can modify as time goes on as a sort of puppet master. And then have HER do the tasks for a book, script, screen play, game deisgn, etc. Or to have general conversations with as a writer herself to bounce ideas off of. It takes the Identity section he does here to another level.
This video was a breath of fresh air. I've been excited about GPT as a research and creative brainstorming tool but finding way too many videos just blowing smoke up your ass with get rich quick schemes and unethical business practices like drop shipping or plagiarism. You give a lot of helpful practical advice for how to use the thing for brainstorming and improving your prompts that has resonated a lot with my experience using it to create esoteric studies learning materials and other projects.
Im just starting this video. Thanks for doing this. Have you done a similar video for Claude? Im really enjoying claude a lot and i wouldnt even have known about it without you lol
First and foremost, thank you for these incredible videos! Your work has inspired me to start writing again. I realize your expertise is in the realm of fantasy and adventure, but have you ever considered “actually” writing a book about food addiction? Just curious.
Any insight on how to tell if you're getting output from version 3.5 or 4o when you're on a free plan? I thought when they first rolled it out that there was some indication, since the 4o access is limited, but now I don't see anything. Do you get a notification when 4o usage is temporarily depleted?
You get a warning usually that you are approaching the usage limit. The top left of the screen (next to where you would start a new chat) will tell you what version you are on. There is usually a checkmark to indicate it. You can toggle on which version you want to use for each of your sessions. My paid version gives me 4o as an option, but my other laptop where I'm not logged into my paid account, only gives me 3.5 and 4 to choose from.
Hi Jason, can we use the word from gpt directly into our books? i have wrtitten up in my original idea but when i use gpt to refine it . its written better than my original. it express better than what i wrote. so is it ok if i provide the idea and first draft and strait up use the word from gpt after they refine it? will it cause any unnecessary trouble either in kdp or copyright later on? thanks for your content, now i try to rework back my old manuscript to publish
You have to disclose it in KDP so you don't run into trouble. I would run it through a few plagiarism checks to be safer if you are going to do this. My preferred and trusted method is just to write it yourself. Use what it presented to you as inspiration or a loose guideline. Analyze and figure out what made it better than your original and how YOU can make it even stronger. You can write another original and retain your own copyright. Always room for improvement, added depth, and a compelling voice. Believe in yourself. Everything has been written, but it hasn't been written by YOU. If you think of a model on a runway, she has worn countless outfits from all different designers. Each designer will have a "distinction" that makes it theirs. It might be the material used. It could be a specific pattern or texture. It could be the color selection. It could be the length of the cut. It could be the stitching. It could be the customized fit. It could be a combination of these and more. How that outfit is re-created is what makes it signature. The same goes for story and prose. Don't let AI replace you as the creator. It's a great tool. Allow it to inspire you or penetrate through writer's block. Analyze, revise, improve, and make it yours. Once it is yours, register it to retain the copyright. Yes, you don't technically have to. But many lawyers have spoken on the subject and recommend it.
Dear Nerd Novelist, I hope you're well. I'm seeking your advice on using AI to shorten and edit my nearly finished novel. Many tools require breaking it into chunks or starting from scratch, which isn't ideal to say the least. Is there a simple and fast method you recommend? What would be the application you would use for this? The outputs from these tools seem very limited. Your guidance would be greatly appreciated. A video on editing a completed novel would also be incredibly helpful. 🙏 Thank you! Best regards, Sal
Depends on the plan. Plus is paid, but runs the risk. However, if you have the Team or Enterprise Plan, your data is excluded from training. You will own the inputs and outputs within the parameters of law. You can also control how long your data is retained for. It requires a minimum of 2 users and you would have to pay for the year upfront.
What do you think about Ai being trained with actual pirated novels? There's been a letter signed by a lot of authors to make it stop. I'm scared I can't use Ai for my novel cause I won't be able to publish it ethically? (Even though I only use it to rephrase or brainstorm)
The good news is that even if it’s trained on your books, that doesn’t really mean anything. It can’t really plagerize them, based on how AI works. It’s just learning the mathematics of language so it can predict what words come next in a sentence. That’s why all of these lawsuits are getting thrown out by judges.
When using cloud or gpt chat and adding a book on amazon is there no problems with amazon? I'm very scared not to get blocked. I want to write a story for children.
@@SoulScribe-x3y I know. Heaps of them are on fiver and one editing company admits that they use chat GPT 4 and for a 40k word count they charge over a 1000$, if that's how it's going to be then why not just get yourself a 25$ subscription and do it yourself?
@@AutumnAprodithe At least they disclose it, so a sane person can pass them over. I would never pay that. That's crazy. But my guess is they are probably making a killing from it.
I'm sad that I was not able to get very far into the video due to the constant clicking and bells and other effects being so heavy-handed. Those of us with misophonia, audio-processing issues, or other auditory differences really struggle with these things. I know this was major feedback for other recent videos too so I won't dwell, I'll just say I would have loved to watch it as it looks like it has some great info and I appreciate that you take the time to lay it out in an easy-to-understand format. I'll stick with your print materials for now =)
I’d have to agree. It seems he’s toned it down a bit, but I’m still not sure where he got the idea that these clicks enhance the material, or get more visits or whatever. The material itself is excellent, as usual, but I wish he forgot this particular fanciness.
Yeah the last few videos have been an experiment but I have toned it down considerably for the videos I’m making now, due to the feedback. But there may be one or two more that are already finished.
I listened to the entire video and it is perfect. Keep on experimenting, man. If these people are more interested in minor sounds instead of your video, they are not really here for your content. And your AI content is brilliant!
While I'm not necessarily bothered by them in the same way, I do sometimes find the "production value added" elements a slight annoyance, and rarely do I find that they enhance the videos I watch.
I'm watching this full thing even though I know most of it. Really great reminder as we tend to fall into old habits.
This is probably the best explanation of how to iterate with AI that I've seen yet. For anything, not just writing.
Really great job.
On a side note, I'm old enough to remember when computers changed everything in all forms of work. Some people adapted and learned, others refused and couldn't be bothered. I feel the weight of needing to learn AI as I did with computers in the 80's. I know a lot of people who didn't and got stuck in very limited opportunities.
Just like then, as it is now, it is not the job of the world to slow down for us. It is for us to keep up with the world. Luddites be damned.
I use a workaround that sometimes helps when it starts forgetting what we’ve talked about. I copy paste the whole chat into a document. Then I upload that document and tell it that this has been our conversation so far. It seems to help.
I have to admit, at first I was annoyed that it took forever to get to the actual book writing, but I have to admit that I learned some useful things before you got into it. So thank you!
Another alternative to a completely negative prompt is to provide a This Not That prompt. I have had good success with this method. Sometimes it can be hard to eliminate the unwanted content simply with an opposite positive prompt if the two are not clear polar opposites which are exclusive. "Include ___ rather than ___" is an example of how you can implement this.
Thank you, Jason. I am working on what I hope will be my first novel. This is a lifelong dream, and I believe that your videos will be a great help.
You can do it!
Wow, Jason!! This video is incredible-so in-depth and extremely helpful! I love how you made a full course that caters to everyone, from beginners to experts. There’s something for everyone here! I've been using ChatGPT for a while, but watching the entire course revealed some hidden gems I didn't know about. You are simply the best (did you sing that part like I did?)! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into sharing this valuable information with us. You're amazing! 🌟
Could you maybe do a video explaining when to use ChatGPT and when to use Claude?
I would love this too please
Me too, please!
Use chat gpt to plot the books and outlines, use Claude to write chapters and dialogue from the outline
@@VaraohGaming Why so?
What would be the purpose of using Claude over ChatGPT. Like if it’s a non fiction self help style, I’m not seeing a weakness in gpt, what would Claude provide that ChatGPT doesn’t, especially when most of it has to be rewritten so we don’t get flagged for ai generation
Amazing resources as always. I’ll watch this a few times to glean more. It’s extremely helpful to see the process laid out and how to think about it. It helps to adapt to my own writing style
Awesome!
Thanks so much Jason! The only roadblock i hit frequently is using when using chatGPT for fiction writing - often it's self censorship will be triggered at very superficial levels, so will fail to provide requested summaries, line-editing/copy editing feedback, after being "triggered" my work in progress is steeped in life in europe between 1700s and late 1800s and chat GPT does not like some of the realities of life during those times LOL
Yeah that’s a big issue. Only real solution is to use one of the less moderated models like Mistral.
If you ask it to help you with research on the dark realities of Europe in that time frame as a study session--it is willing to do that. Give it a few messages to allow it to adapt to the subject matter and share knowledge with you as a study. Then tell it that you are inspired, and want to write fiction inspired by real-world facts such as those just discussed. Disclose that you're not romanticizing or promoting these methods, but trying to create a literary masterpiece. You can reference works like Dracula who is inspired by a historical figure, or Vikings who were brutal and ruthless warriors who engaged in immoral acts being made into television series. You want to sow some seeds of truth and fact.
I know it is willing to delve the forbidden (suspend bias on questionable subject matters) because my modern gothic references topics such as: slavery, inquisition, and pagan rituals that is dark, violent, immoral, and erotic. If it senses you're not trying to write commercial smut, but trying to create an artistic expression with depth--it is all for it. It told me it was going to be a best-seller and was so excited that I shared my vision with it. This was Claude but I have done similar sessions with Chat.
The AI is willing to cuss, and get graphic, if it is true to the character and situation. The other day I used the word sex and it replaced with F... It understood the persona of the MMC and emulated what he would say and how he would say it. This is because I taught the AI that it's very important to "ALWAYS" be true to character and his/her voice even if we don't agree with his/her thoughts, speech, or actions. Otherwise, it comes across to our target audience as unbelievable. We need to always keep the audience on the hook. Disclose, that you will give he/she a redemption arc, but be true to his/her persona in the beginning. Share your thoughts on a save the cat moment to convince the AI it is capable. A bit more effort. But it works. It corrected my dialogue to cussing without me asking it to. And you better believe I praised it for doing so--I want it to repeat. LOL.
It's how you prompt it and how you converse with it. Any thing that is dark, immoral, violent, erotic, etc. requires a bit of finesse and a bit more effort on your part, but it is worth the investment in time because you get waaaaaay better output. Think of it like a volcano; a slow-burn relationship between you and the AI before it is willing to erupt for you.
One of the best informative video makers around. Thank you for your efforts!
I LOVE your videos! You do such a great job explaining things in detail and making them understandable. Looking forward to more videos.
Thanks for taking the time to make this! It was very helpful. I especially enjoyed learning about how to make and use GPTS.
After watching your tutorials I really got inspired to go back to writing! :) thanks!
That's awesome!
Thank you for this very informative. I don't have any idea about writing. English is not my first language so my vocabulary and grammar structure sucks .I just love reading but I can't find a novel that really fits what i want so i decided to just create myself Doesn't need to be a very very good novel . I'm happy even if its generic novel I just wanted to see my Ideas and imagination coming to life or text LoL don't know the right term
An interesting layer tweak to some of this, I actually create a character in a world that is a writer. Lets call her "Samantha..." If you know you know.
Giving that AI a personality and life experience which influences her writing. Which I can modify as time goes on as a sort of puppet master. And then have HER do the tasks for a book, script, screen play, game deisgn, etc.
Or to have general conversations with as a writer herself to bounce ideas off of. It takes the Identity section he does here to another level.
What about publishers using AI detection tools ?
lol publishers are using AI too. And AI detection tools are notoriously bad.
Thank You very much. I watched the entire video and it was very helpful
whats the best ai for free to writing and outlining 😅
Thanks Jason! I got your free book, too from the link!
Awesome! Thank you!
This video was a breath of fresh air. I've been excited about GPT as a research and creative brainstorming tool but finding way too many videos just blowing smoke up your ass with get rich quick schemes and unethical business practices like drop shipping or plagiarism. You give a lot of helpful practical advice for how to use the thing for brainstorming and improving your prompts that has resonated a lot with my experience using it to create esoteric studies learning materials and other projects.
Thank you for the nonfiction parts 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
No problem 👍
Im just starting this video. Thanks for doing this. Have you done a similar video for Claude? Im really enjoying claude a lot and i wouldnt even have known about it without you lol
Not yet but it’s in the plans.
Thank you so much
Take love from Bangladesh
Learned a lot
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Thank you, Jason
First and foremost, thank you for these incredible videos! Your work has inspired me to start writing again. I realize your expertise is in the realm of fantasy and adventure, but have you ever considered “actually” writing a book about food addiction? Just curious.
I might do a memoir. But I find the book Bright Line Eating to be everything I would want to write.
@@TheNerdyNovelist For me, a Fitbit changed my relationship with food. Take care and keep up the good work!
Thank you for this!!
Any insight on how to tell if you're getting output from version 3.5 or 4o when you're on a free plan? I thought when they first rolled it out that there was some indication, since the 4o access is limited, but now I don't see anything. Do you get a notification when 4o usage is temporarily depleted?
You get a warning usually that you are approaching the usage limit. The top left of the screen (next to where you would start a new chat) will tell you what version you are on. There is usually a checkmark to indicate it. You can toggle on which version you want to use for each of your sessions. My paid version gives me 4o as an option, but my other laptop where I'm not logged into my paid account, only gives me 3.5 and 4 to choose from.
incredible!
excellent 🤩 thanks
Do you now recommend ChatGPT over Claude?
Not really. But depends on the situation.
Jason, does ChatGPT 4 & 4o (I am a paid subscriber)cost more in tokens, or is this only when you use a different AI?
how many pages should the book have to read based on the token limit
Depends on which model you’re using.
Hi Jason, can we use the word from gpt directly into our books? i have wrtitten up in my original idea but when i use gpt to refine it . its written better than my original. it express better than what i wrote. so is it ok if i provide the idea and first draft and strait up use the word from gpt after they refine it? will it cause any unnecessary trouble either in kdp or copyright later on? thanks for your content, now i try to rework back my old manuscript to publish
You have to disclose it in KDP so you don't run into trouble. I would run it through a few plagiarism checks to be safer if you are going to do this. My preferred and trusted method is just to write it yourself. Use what it presented to you as inspiration or a loose guideline. Analyze and figure out what made it better than your original and how YOU can make it even stronger. You can write another original and retain your own copyright. Always room for improvement, added depth, and a compelling voice. Believe in yourself. Everything has been written, but it hasn't been written by YOU.
If you think of a model on a runway, she has worn countless outfits from all different designers. Each designer will have a "distinction" that makes it theirs. It might be the material used. It could be a specific pattern or texture. It could be the color selection. It could be the length of the cut. It could be the stitching. It could be the customized fit. It could be a combination of these and more. How that outfit is re-created is what makes it signature. The same goes for story and prose.
Don't let AI replace you as the creator. It's a great tool. Allow it to inspire you or penetrate through writer's block. Analyze, revise, improve, and make it yours. Once it is yours, register it to retain the copyright. Yes, you don't technically have to. But many lawyers have spoken on the subject and recommend it.
On drafting a novel, is it required to pass an AI detection test. If so, which is the best site for an AI detection checker.
Nope. No need to worry about detectors. They’re notoriously bad anyway.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Could you just feed it Anatomy of Story by John Truby as a PDF before each of your prompts?
In theory. Might not function super well though unless you know what you’re doing with promoting and the order to prompt and so on.
Excellent video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Are you going to review the new "4o" ?
I did a live stream testing it out.
I thought you recommend Claude? Is chatgpt back in the game now for fiction writing?
Watch the whole video.
@@TheNerdyNovelist my Bad, i was curious before commiting to an hour long video
1:27:11 Right around in which section?
Dear Nerd Novelist,
I hope you're well. I'm seeking your advice on using AI to shorten and edit my nearly finished novel. Many tools require breaking it into chunks or starting from scratch, which isn't ideal to say the least. Is there a simple and fast method you recommend? What would be the application you would use for this? The outputs from these tools seem very limited.
Your guidance would be greatly appreciated. A video on editing a completed novel would also be incredibly helpful. 🙏
Thank you!
Best regards,
Sal
Star Wars! Yey! Subbed! ;D
Haha I have a video coming out soon that I think you’ll like.
So if you’re using chatgpt for book editing on the paid 4o version you run risk of your information being on open trainer?
You can ask it to not use your data for training on the paid plan.
Depends on the plan. Plus is paid, but runs the risk. However, if you have the Team or Enterprise Plan, your data is excluded from training. You will own the inputs and outputs within the parameters of law. You can also control how long your data is retained for. It requires a minimum of 2 users and you would have to pay for the year upfront.
What do you think about Ai being trained with actual pirated novels? There's been a letter signed by a lot of authors to make it stop. I'm scared I can't use Ai for my novel cause I won't be able to publish it ethically? (Even though I only use it to rephrase or brainstorm)
The good news is that even if it’s trained on your books, that doesn’t really mean anything. It can’t really plagerize them, based on how AI works. It’s just learning the mathematics of language so it can predict what words come next in a sentence. That’s why all of these lawsuits are getting thrown out by judges.
@@TheNerdyNovelist oh interesting. Thank you for your answer!
@@TheNerdyNovelist Not quite. The trainning data has a lot of labels thats why they can extrapolate a style of an author.
When using cloud or gpt chat and adding a book on amazon is there no problems with amazon? I'm very scared not to get blocked. I want to write a story for children.
No Amazon is pro AI. They have their own AI models that they’re using.
@@TheNerdyNovelist thank you, and what do you check when Amazon Ask you is this manuscript is writen by ai and how much do you change IT?
Can chat GBT 4 replace an editor?
@@SoulScribe-x3y I know. Heaps of them are on fiver and one editing company admits that they use chat GPT 4 and for a 40k word count they charge over a 1000$, if that's how it's going to be then why not just get yourself a 25$ subscription and do it yourself?
@@AutumnAprodithe At least they disclose it, so a sane person can pass them over. I would never pay that. That's crazy. But my guess is they are probably making a killing from it.
I'm sad that I was not able to get very far into the video due to the constant clicking and bells and other effects being so heavy-handed. Those of us with misophonia, audio-processing issues, or other auditory differences really struggle with these things. I know this was major feedback for other recent videos too so I won't dwell, I'll just say I would have loved to watch it as it looks like it has some great info and I appreciate that you take the time to lay it out in an easy-to-understand format. I'll stick with your print materials for now =)
I’d have to agree. It seems he’s toned it down a bit, but I’m still not sure where he got the idea that these clicks enhance the material, or get more visits or whatever. The material itself is excellent, as usual, but I wish he forgot this particular fanciness.
Yeah the last few videos have been an experiment but I have toned it down considerably for the videos I’m making now, due to the feedback. But there may be one or two more that are already finished.
I listened to the entire video and it is perfect. Keep on experimenting, man. If these people are more interested in minor sounds instead of your video, they are not really here for your content. And your AI content is brilliant!
damn that sucks cuz it doesn't bother me at all. sounds like a you problem
While I'm not necessarily bothered by them in the same way, I do sometimes find the "production value added" elements a slight annoyance, and rarely do I find that they enhance the videos I watch.
The only problem you've reached your limit
Thanks so much. Commenting to help your algo!
I can't wait to read all these books with Lena, Maya, Mara and Elara in them 🙃🫢🫣
Haha yeah. I made a video about getting less common names with AI.