This is the most honest review I've seen so far. It took hours for Akai and Inmusic to catch up to all the demand. Servers were down all afternoon. I finally got it activated. I feel the same way about the quality of the stem separation so far. I hope it gets better. I'm curious to A/B separated tracks with this and Serato.
Thanks for giving a real world example of how separation works on the MPC. Like all other stem separation software, there's always artifacts and weird filtering issues, it'll never be perfect because of the nature of the technology no matter how much machine learning they throw at it, but it definitely is helpful and it definitely is dependent on source material. You can get some very good separations depending on what you're separating. And like you did, you can come up with some cool creative textures that you wouldn't have had before, with a little tweaking. Excellent video
This review seems a little different and more honest than what I got from watching Andy Mac. However, I'm amazed it works at all. Thanks for the honesty. That's important.
Nice work Tefty! that bassline was on point. Now you have to re-review this when it's on standalone, to me that's where things get interesting. Hope to see more you and Memes, love those productions.
Thank you! Yeah more productions on the way. We had a bunch of projects come through end of last year, so we've been playing catch up on our own music.
Your face said it all!! Lol!! Definitely feeling that beat!!! You chopped that up real nice! I would love to see you sample more UA-cam or vinyls. I'm diggin your style!
As a producer that also DJs, I've been using STEMS in Serato for quite a long time and once you get into it, there is no looking back. What i did find interesting, based on what you've sampled here, the AKAI STEMS seems like the v1 STEMS from Serato or Virtual DJ. Good, but not great. Although the STEMS for both of those DJ applications have moved on massively. So I'm expecting AKAI to follow a similar path of improvement. I'd also like to see Ricky's face when he hears he's been sampled!
Oh it's not an impression at all, this is bad quality, and i don't mind it too much, but what gets me is that this guy is one of the rare people who doesn't shimmer you into thinking it's a game changer. The others are quite cheeky, they're choosing the perfect tunes to stem split to make it look like akai's is doing a great job, tunes that aren't too busy and have already clearly separated tracks. But they won't tell viewers that most tunes are going to sound way more artefacty and fake/muffled/etc.. on this subpar splitter. Kinda rubs me the wrong way but hey, they gotta make money.
@@jimmypierson1980 if you listen to the STEM splitting from the v2 virtual DJ STEMS. A lot of the digital artifacts are massively reduced. You are right, that the results definitely depend on the source material, but the latest iterations of the tool have massively improved.
Great video and track. That was a very unique way of using Stems, I enjoyed the result alot. I might try something similar for fun. Keep the great videos coming! ✌
Yeah I bet it’s tuned to more traditional content for stem separation. Probably expecting old school vinyl content that’s more band oriented. None the less, still fun to see what pops out.
@@teftymusictechActually i noticed most splitters are more about how busy the track is. Reverb too causes them great trouble. That's what bothered me about the other videos, they carefully chose which song to split to make it look like a game changer but really it's sort of subpar compared to other splitters. I hope akai will work on it but they are super late in the game.
Love my new AK-37 it’s the game changer in music production 2024. Wannabe emulators will follow (watch for Novation and Arturia) and definitely change the market.
Great honest review. I made it thru the Stems outage after a few[ nap] mins😅… Sampling is my lane. $10. and standalone …eventually 😆..it’s not a big deal it’s NOT perfect…. Dope UA-camr collab 😉
Every time I hear your wife sing, I get goosebumps, that girl has some serious talent and beauty, the perfect combination for the musical entertainment business.
'Lets get some high hats from a sample pack* Says it all haha. I liked the sound design on the vox, some great sounding work shown here, just not convinced with drums but good for everything else which is wild when you think drum shots are the one thing that avoid copyright
Bought it when I got the email and I was stunned when it was just for the software…already have Serato Sample so redundant for me until it releases for standalone.
Yeah we're still waiting. I use standalone 95% of the time. I'm looking forward to sampling off my phone/tablet directly into the Key 37 and doing stems when it's available.
Judging from your final remarks, I'm guessing that the results of MPC Stems are inferior to those of RipX (which I have). Even so, it'd be nice to have a fairly good stem extraction solution within the MPC software itself and not have to bounce between the two programs.
This. They’re late..but better late than never..let’s Get up to speed tho @Akai don’t rest on laurels type beats…ie flip that “stemmy pack” 💰into R&D [competition with those already in the game].
Sometimes, the artifacts allow me to use those to put my vocals to a remix in time. Tiny tracing paper. I been using the free stem apps on my phone and have been going crazy. Lol. Technology is amazing.
I wonder if the separation could have been a little cleaner if you were recording hotter. I could be way off base on the technical side of things, but I think it’d have more information to work with that way. Thanks for showing the workflow; great jams, too.
I'm waiting for standalone. I already use FL Studio which has stem separation. I'm surprised akai has delayed standalone stems release. Great track by the way! 🔥
I have a mpc x and was thinking of getting a mpc live 2 or key 37 for ideas when I’m out. Need a keyboard so might have to be the key 37. Also for so info some software called Melodyne first came out in 2001 and you could go into the samples and edit the note, I used it and was amazed, then in 2009 the brought out DNA, DNA Direct Note Access: Melodyne's unique DNA algorithms give you access to individual notes within chords, so you can not only correct wrong notes in piano or guitar recordings but also adapt samples of all kinds to match the harmonies of your project, introduce any number of variations and even “recompose” sample Seems to be a very similar tech. Just used in a different way.
Very honest review! For $10 why tf not, right? Won’t get in until standalone is available - but I am very curious how thats going to sound on standalone.
Hey, quick question. Just wanted to get your perspective on it to have something to think about. In a previous video you have a modal Argon 8 and i also saw a novation peak. If you had to pick one, what would it be and why? Just curious.
If a.i. is creating new stems from an original recording, after separated, those sounds are no longer the sampled composition, they become a new creation. Now to tell the lawyers 👀
Should've normalized the samples for us so we could actually hear them a bit better. Even with Sony MDRV6's I still couldn't really hear the samples after you stemmed them.
I use RipX for Stem separation on my pc, and just load the stems into my live 2. I will wait for standalone version I reckon. Its great for getting accapellas and adding your own music. Lots of creative potential. Even if just for fun 😎👌
@@teftymusictechAlso be interesting to see how fast a standalone version can process stems. Can imagine the Akai processor being a bit slow fast compared to my M2 Macbook.
When i try to update my MPC Software currently 2.13 to 2.14 it says my software is up to date ! On their website there is only 2.13 available. So Why they put out the stemseparation without providing the software versions needed to update ?
Its out now today for the the daw software. I updated mine through the inmusic software on PC. Problem is right now everyone's having problems with the activate button not existing in the plugin activation on the mpc hardware and software daw. Sure it'll be fixed, but there's always so many issues now activating your software.
This happened to me, just download 2.14 from your INMUSIC account, I saw it under my MPC section. After I did that and updated the software I was finally able to see STEM SEPARATION option. Then I had to press Activate about 15-20 times for it to work. I think there servers are just getting hit really hard. Good luck!
Yeah seems like the InMusic app is your best bet to get things downloaded and updated correctly. But the activation system seems to always have problems. I really hope they revamp it at some point.
Hi, when using a soundcard with mpc one I can get the vocal in the audio section but can't hear the beat on the mpc? Any thoughts on this? Seems like when leaving internal everything is muted. Any help appreciated 🙏
Yes, officially the stem purchase can be activated on any modern MPC that's logged into your InMusic account, once it's released on standalone (probably a few months out).
I’m not sure if I’ll buy this… it’s only $10 which is nothing, but when every-freaking-thing is copyrighted these days I couldn’t actually use what I sample anyway, at least not share it. OTOH, it makes a neat lo-fi effect to apply to your samples.
I share sampled beats on Instagram and only had one issue ever, and it was just blocked from playing in Russia only lol, and it was a loop i only added drums too so it’s really nothing to worry about tbh.
No where close to as good as what you'll get doing stem separation using FL Studio. Shame. In fact, it's as bad as stem separation software that's been available for the last two decades! Nothing special, and yet Akai still wants to charge for it and only release it on software only. 😑
I'm still new to music production and still confused why people just sample copyrighted material like they own it. Wtf why, you'll go broke or to jail for this shit, it's criminal shit. Also, I don't find it particularly creative or impressive.
Honestly, I'm not sure. My instinct says this is an MPC Software exclusive, Beats is the entry version of the MPC Software. Easy way to tell is update it and see if you can activate/purchase the stem feature in the settings.
so now we are calling apps, software and plugins Ai? That fucking word makes me sick. You are witnessing the biggest fucking bubble in human history. "Ai" please dont.
As a force user for nearly 3 years, the number free updates, workflow updates and free effects is second to none. 10 dollars is nothing, especially if they get it running standalone.
Nice video. You gave me an idea when you said the A.i. was trying to emulate the bass. Imagine you could use the stems to trigger VST's and you could fully customize your sound. 😊
You can. You have to copy the midi notes from the stem track to a plugin track and assign your sounds to each note that was copied to be triggered. I do it for drums mostly tho. I like taking a live drum track and then chop it. Then create a program and track it as played live. Then I assign like drumlab drums to the midi notes.
id never leave that room
Neither would I
Riiight
This is the most honest review I've seen so far.
It took hours for Akai and Inmusic to catch up to all the demand. Servers were down all afternoon. I finally got it activated.
I feel the same way about the quality of the stem separation so far. I hope it gets better. I'm curious to A/B separated tracks with this and Serato.
Thanks for giving a real world example of how separation works on the MPC. Like all other stem separation software, there's always artifacts and weird filtering issues, it'll never be perfect because of the nature of the technology no matter how much machine learning they throw at it, but it definitely is helpful and it definitely is dependent on source material. You can get some very good separations depending on what you're separating. And like you did, you can come up with some cool creative textures that you wouldn't have had before, with a little tweaking. Excellent video
You're a honest dude & the beat was dope! I'll share this.
This review seems a little different and more honest than what I got from watching Andy Mac. However, I'm amazed it works at all. Thanks for the honesty. That's important.
thank you for the honest attitude
Nice work Tefty! that bassline was on point. Now you have to re-review this when it's on standalone, to me that's where things get interesting. Hope to see more you and Memes, love those productions.
Thank you! Yeah more productions on the way. We had a bunch of projects come through end of last year, so we've been playing catch up on our own music.
thank you buddy you put out some great content
Thank you! I enjoy sharing knowledge 🙏❤️
you've shown us what its like to use this machine for another purpose other than hip-hop.thanks.💯💯💯
Your face said it all!! Lol!! Definitely feeling that beat!!! You chopped that up real nice! I would love to see you sample more UA-cam or vinyls. I'm diggin your style!
Thank you! 🙏❤️
As a producer that also DJs, I've been using STEMS in Serato for quite a long time and once you get into it, there is no looking back. What i did find interesting, based on what you've sampled here, the AKAI STEMS seems like the v1 STEMS from Serato or Virtual DJ. Good, but not great. Although the STEMS for both of those DJ applications have moved on massively. So I'm expecting AKAI to follow a similar path of improvement.
I'd also like to see Ricky's face when he hears he's been sampled!
Oh it's not an impression at all, this is bad quality, and i don't mind it too much, but what gets me is that this guy is one of the rare people who doesn't shimmer you into thinking it's a game changer. The others are quite cheeky, they're choosing the perfect tunes to stem split to make it look like akai's is doing a great job, tunes that aren't too busy and have already clearly separated tracks. But they won't tell viewers that most tunes are going to sound way more artefacty and fake/muffled/etc.. on this subpar splitter. Kinda rubs me the wrong way but hey, they gotta make money.
@@jimmypierson1980 if you listen to the STEM splitting from the v2 virtual DJ STEMS. A lot of the digital artifacts are massively reduced. You are right, that the results definitely depend on the source material, but the latest iterations of the tool have massively improved.
Killer product
Amazing Remix created - Nice… very Nice 👍🏽 And big thanks for the review ❤
Thank you! 🙏❤️
Finally! This looks like a sweet addition to the software
Great video and track. That was a very unique way of using Stems, I enjoyed the result alot. I might try something similar for fun. Keep the great videos coming! ✌
I´ve noticed that the quality really depends on the source. I found it pretty good to begin with :)
Yeah I bet it’s tuned to more traditional content for stem separation. Probably expecting old school vinyl content that’s more band oriented. None the less, still fun to see what pops out.
@@teftymusictechActually i noticed most splitters are more about how busy the track is. Reverb too causes them great trouble. That's what bothered me about the other videos, they carefully chose which song to split to make it look like a game changer but really it's sort of subpar compared to other splitters. I hope akai will work on it but they are super late in the game.
When I installed stems and activated it, no problems at all. Really easy
Love my new AK-37 it’s the game changer in music production 2024. Wannabe emulators will follow (watch for Novation and Arturia) and definitely change the market.
Dope remix🔥🔥🔥💯
Dope sampling...Bassline took it to another level
Great honest review.
I made it thru the Stems outage after a few[ nap] mins😅…
Sampling is my lane.
$10. and standalone …eventually 😆..it’s not a big deal it’s NOT perfect….
Dope UA-camr collab 😉
TeftI love the channel you are the first to be honest
Oh im getting it. I sample a lot. Never used vst for mpc. Sample sample everything.
Every time I hear your wife sing, I get goosebumps, that girl has some serious talent and beauty, the perfect combination for the musical entertainment business.
'Lets get some high hats from a sample pack* Says it all haha. I liked the sound design on the vox, some great sounding work shown here, just not convinced with drums but good for everything else which is wild when you think drum shots are the one thing that avoid copyright
Bought it when I got the email and I was stunned when it was just for the software…already have Serato Sample so redundant for me until it releases for standalone.
Yeah we're still waiting. I use standalone 95% of the time. I'm looking forward to sampling off my phone/tablet directly into the Key 37 and doing stems when it's available.
Judging from your final remarks, I'm guessing that the results of MPC Stems are inferior to those of RipX (which I have). Even so, it'd be nice to have a fairly good stem extraction solution within the MPC software itself and not have to bounce between the two programs.
This.
They’re late..but better late than never..let’s Get up to speed tho @Akai don’t rest on laurels type beats…ie flip that “stemmy pack” 💰into R&D [competition with those already in the game].
Sometimes, the artifacts allow me to use those to put my vocals to a remix in time. Tiny tracing paper. I been using the free stem apps on my phone and have been going crazy. Lol. Technology is amazing.
I wonder if the separation could have been a little cleaner if you were recording hotter. I could be way off base on the technical side of things, but I think it’d have more information to work with that way. Thanks for showing the workflow; great jams, too.
I'm waiting for standalone. I already use FL Studio which has stem separation. I'm surprised akai has delayed standalone stems release.
Great track by the way! 🔥
I have a mpc x and was thinking of getting a mpc live 2 or key 37 for ideas when I’m out. Need a keyboard so might have to be the key 37.
Also for so info some software called Melodyne first came out in 2001 and you could go into the samples and edit the note, I used it and was amazed, then in 2009 the brought out DNA,
DNA Direct Note Access: Melodyne's unique DNA algorithms give you access to individual notes within chords, so you can not only correct wrong notes in piano or guitar recordings but also adapt samples of all kinds to match the harmonies of your project, introduce any number of variations and even “recompose” sample
Seems to be a very similar tech. Just used in a different way.
Very honest review! For $10 why tf not, right? Won’t get in until standalone is available - but I am very curious how thats going to sound on standalone.
🙂 I have to have that!!!
Hey, quick question. Just wanted to get your perspective on it to have something to think about. In a previous video you have a modal Argon 8 and i also saw a novation peak. If you had to pick one, what would it be and why? Just curious.
If a.i. is creating new stems from an original recording, after separated, those sounds are no longer the sampled composition, they become a new creation. Now to tell the lawyers 👀
Should've normalized the samples for us so we could actually hear them a bit better. Even with Sony MDRV6's I still couldn't really hear the samples after you stemmed them.
I use RipX for Stem separation on my pc, and just load the stems into my live 2. I will wait for standalone version I reckon. Its great for getting accapellas and adding your own music. Lots of creative potential. Even if just for fun 😎👌
I'm surprised you're not aware of the sample extension in Chrome. Records WAV file for whatever's going on in Chrome
Oh wow, cool.. I didn't realise you could sample from UA-cam videos without any copyright issues?
It's only in software mode? 😑
Anyway, it was pretty awesome how you took all those samples, tweaked them up, and came up with a really cool track 👍🏾
I'm not in a rush for it, but I'll acquire it within a week or so. I'm more looking for Stem Separation in standalone...
Definitely no rush since it’s gonna be a few months before standalone gets the feature.
@@teftymusictechAlso be interesting to see how fast a standalone version can process stems. Can imagine the Akai processor being a bit slow fast compared to my M2 Macbook.
Anything that help us be more creative is always a plus and it will always improve with time so I’m happy . 😎🔥👍
I'm confused. so Stems is not available for MPCX standalone yet , just the software, correct?
When i try to update my MPC Software currently 2.13 to 2.14 it says my software is up to date ! On their website there is only 2.13 available. So Why they put out the stemseparation without providing the software versions needed to update ?
It's not available yet.
Its out now today for the the daw software. I updated mine through the inmusic software on PC. Problem is right now everyone's having problems with the activate button not existing in the plugin activation on the mpc hardware and software daw. Sure it'll be fixed, but there's always so many issues now activating your software.
Correction: Available, however, I'm having the same problem as others activating. Not to mention, I had to search Google to find it on the website.
This happened to me, just download 2.14 from your INMUSIC account, I saw it under my MPC section. After I did that and updated the software I was finally able to see STEM SEPARATION option. Then I had to press Activate about 15-20 times for it to work. I think there servers are just getting hit really hard. Good luck!
Yeah seems like the InMusic app is your best bet to get things downloaded and updated correctly. But the activation system seems to always have problems. I really hope they revamp it at some point.
First person with this machine that actually plays keyboard lol
Hi, when using a soundcard with mpc one I can get the vocal in the audio section but can't hear the beat on the mpc? Any thoughts on this? Seems like when leaving internal everything is muted. Any help appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the video, do you know If we buy stems now, will it include the standalone version if/when it releases?
I've been told that the purchase will include the standalone version once it is released.
Yes, officially the stem purchase can be activated on any modern MPC that's logged into your InMusic account, once it's released on standalone (probably a few months out).
The software sort of crashes after 5 minutes . I've not been able to get further than 1 stem separation....crash
your voice sounds like the voice of the " Lemongraspicker " on youtube....
Do you know, when stems come in standalone, will it be new product like key 37 + or an update? Thank you
I’m not sure if I’ll buy this… it’s only $10 which is nothing, but when every-freaking-thing is copyrighted these days I couldn’t actually use what I sample anyway, at least not share it.
OTOH, it makes a neat lo-fi effect to apply to your samples.
I share sampled beats on Instagram and only had one issue ever, and it was just blocked from playing in Russia only lol, and it was a loop i only added drums too so it’s really nothing to worry about tbh.
Stem extraction in general seems to be a bit of a con, it just substitutes certain elements.
Other videos I’ve watched you never hear any other elements from the track it’s always clean…why is that?
Wait you have to use your computer? This is not standalone?
That doesn’t make sense
Standalone coming soon
Standalone is "coming soon" officially from Akai. So probably a few months.
Does anybody else hear some Cristina Scabbia in Meem’s vocals?
Can you use STEMS on MPC One Plus?
You said software only...
It's not available for hardware yet. It's coming later this year.
@@teftymusictech so you can buy it & transfer it to MPC from your InMusic account?
Help! Im stemming!
Not super impressed by the quality compared for Moises, of course it's apples to oranges, as the processing is not done on the server side I guess.
No where close to as good as what you'll get doing stem separation using FL Studio. Shame. In fact, it's as bad as stem separation software
that's been available for the last two decades! Nothing special, and yet Akai still wants to charge for it and only release it on software only. 😑
Yeah it's nothing to be blown away by. BUT if you're use the to MPC workflow, it's a nice option to have in your kit.
I'm still new to music production and still confused why people just sample copyrighted material like they own it. Wtf why, you'll go broke or to jail for this shit, it's criminal shit. Also, I don't find it particularly creative or impressive.
Can you use this on MPC beats?
Yes software mode would be ran with MPC BEATZ!!
@@MistahBeatz wow ok thanks
Honestly, I'm not sure. My instinct says this is an MPC Software exclusive, Beats is the entry version of the MPC Software. Easy way to tell is update it and see if you can activate/purchase the stem feature in the settings.
08:06 Erick Morillo ua-cam.com/video/W7wvO8CyOtY/v-deo.htmlsi=Rh81CZZmOOC_k5i6
so now we are calling apps, software and plugins Ai?
That fucking word makes me sick. You are witnessing the biggest fucking bubble in human history. "Ai"
please dont.
Akai sucks now! And they are charging us for it? As if the hardware isn’t expensive already?! And still no standalone? Jokes
As a force user for nearly 3 years, the number free updates, workflow updates and free effects is second to none. 10 dollars is nothing, especially if they get it running standalone.
@@Distortic Either way the old mpcs which still hold up like my 4000 with no updates is still a beast. Akai is like apple now imo. Cheers
@@dennissotomayor
The simple solution is to keep using your older MPC and not worry about the whole thing.
In music akai sucks…………..
Always fun to see what you cook up!
Ok this is dope
Nice video. You gave me an idea when you said the A.i. was trying to emulate the bass. Imagine you could use the stems to trigger VST's and you could fully customize your sound. 😊
You can. You have to copy the midi notes from the stem track to a plugin track and assign your sounds to each note that was copied to be triggered. I do it for drums mostly tho. I like taking a live drum track and then chop it. Then create a program and track it as played live. Then I assign like drumlab drums to the midi notes.