This movie was a murder mystery, but you never see a murder being committed! All you see in this movie is what the police detectives see. You only see the aftermath of the murder. It's like you're riding along with the detectives trying to figure out this case. It's a brilliant thriller!
@@kennethlinscott4744 That's true. There is a killing at the end. However, I wouldn't call that killing a murder in the normal context of that word. It was more like a very just extrajudicial execution.
@@R2D2C_3poMurder is the unlawful and premeditated killing of another person. Despite Mill's situation, it 100% is murder. How much he would be punished for it, I don't actually know.
@@trueblue6201I think he'd get off with a slap on the wrist, cops get lenient sentences anyway and in a situation like that pulling the trigger is completely understandable
Honestly I'm impressed with whoever wrote that stuff in the diary we get to see Somerset look at. Clearly handwritten, must have taken ages to script that and then write it down.
It wasn't scripted. The art department wrote everything you see in those books. And I hate to burst the bubble but a lot of it is the same page or so of writing repeating over and over again.
@bubububnever I didn't say they wrote the entire book, but they clearly wrote several different pages and it had to make sense, which I think is admirable. Also, when I say scripted, I mean it was clearly planned and written down beforehand. Maybe not the right term to use.
I always loved the scenes in Doe’s apartment. It’s not just the notebooks that are Doe’s mind but the apartment itself is a reflection of that mind. Genuinely unnerving film.
That phone call creeps me out. He just had a major chase with law enforcement and lost his apartment, but to him it’s just a little setback. It’s terrifying how calm John Doe is.
"If we had 50 men reading in 24 hour shifts it would still take 2 months" Reminds me of Lester Freeman from The Wire when Mcnulty said "No offense Lester but now i know why Daniels cringed every time you opened your fucking mouth, your a supervisors worst nightmare!"
@@ArcturianLessons Have you SEEN who was on Epstein Island? After viewing the entire list, do YOU think that they all knew anything? There are plenty of places where the very rich and successful go and party, but it doesn't make them all guilty of something.
I once used the word "banality" and someone told me I was being rude... obviously because he didn't know what the word meant. I later told him and he felt stupid for saying that (because he was).
He’s an old goat now. Wouldn’t work. Plus, it would destroy the mystique of John Doe to focus in on his life which essentially a prequel would do. He’s supposed to be remote and mysterious, not delved into. And I think we’ve had enough of prequels as it is.
This movie was a murder mystery, but you never see a murder being committed! All you see in this movie is what the police detectives see. You only see the aftermath of the murder. It's like you're riding along with the detectives trying to figure out this case. It's a brilliant thriller!
But he murders the murderer at the end, we see that don't we
@@kennethlinscott4744 That's true. There is a killing at the end. However, I wouldn't call that killing a murder in the normal context of that word. It was more like a very just extrajudicial execution.
@@kennethlinscott4744also the detectives see that killing as he has committed it
@@R2D2C_3poMurder is the unlawful and premeditated killing of another person. Despite Mill's situation, it 100% is murder. How much he would be punished for it, I don't actually know.
@@trueblue6201I think he'd get off with a slap on the wrist, cops get lenient sentences anyway and in a situation like that pulling the trigger is completely understandable
Honestly I'm impressed with whoever wrote that stuff in the diary we get to see Somerset look at. Clearly handwritten, must have taken ages to script that and then write it down.
It wasn't scripted. The art department wrote everything you see in those books. And I hate to burst the bubble but a lot of it is the same page or so of writing repeating over and over again.
@bubububnever I didn't say they wrote the entire book, but they clearly wrote several different pages and it had to make sense, which I think is admirable.
Also, when I say scripted, I mean it was clearly planned and written down beforehand. Maybe not the right term to use.
it was easier to do in the shining
I always loved the scenes in Doe’s apartment. It’s not just the notebooks that are Doe’s mind but the apartment itself is a reflection of that mind. Genuinely unnerving film.
its huge, i wonder what the monthly rent is
Back then $400
The note books are actually the first draft of project 2025
That phone call creeps me out. He just had a major chase with law enforcement and lost his apartment, but to him it’s just a little setback. It’s terrifying how calm John Doe is.
This is such a great film, Pitt, freeman and spacey were all brilliant. It’s so dark and moody, scary, it’s an underrated masterpiece.
Such a good movie. I love the dark atmosphere throughout the entire film. In my eyes, it's what an actual dystopian world would be like.
It was the same when Fincher did Fight Club. Both movies had the same filter.
1:05 anyone knows what that is
@@jamesclarkmaxwell-v2n severed hand in a jar.
"Wild Bill's Leather Shop" First time noticing this. Way Cool.
Reference to silence of the lambs?
By far the best film Brad Pitt ever made.
Fury was good
"If we had 50 men reading in 24 hour shifts it would still take 2 months" Reminds me of Lester Freeman from The Wire when Mcnulty said "No offense Lester but now i know why Daniels cringed every time you opened your fucking mouth, your a supervisors worst nightmare!"
Natural Police😂😂
Absolutely an amazing movie. Easily in my top 5. I find it so aggravating that so many young people tell me they've never seen this movie.
Fincher's own unparalleled masterpiece
I've never seen this movie, I can't keep my head focused for more than 15 min.
Movies were better in the 90's I remember
This movie needs another look.
The score to this film is always great. Foreboding with a constant sense of dread. Fitting, considering the ending.
Just his mind poured out on paper
toilet paper
@StephNuggs Just his butt wiped out on toilet paper 😂
Perfect Set work.
Fun fact they used his real apparent for the scene.
I threw up on him, he was not pleased and I couldn’t stop laughing .
You can just imagine that scene , chilling
I feel like they did a good job of setting up of what they would think a cliche Serial killer, would have a lair like: Very evil,creepy and cliche
Now it is. It made the genre. What you think is cliche is because everyone emulated this movie after it came out.
@@lastEvergreen So many films owe much to seven
Welp this has aged very well. This is the real Kevin Spacey.
Brilliant actor. Elevates everything he's in! Good comment
Hes a epstein client monster
XD
@@ArcturianLessons Have you SEEN who was on Epstein Island? After viewing the entire list, do YOU think that they all knew anything? There are plenty of places where the very rich and successful go and party, but it doesn't make them all guilty of something.
Kevin Spacey is awesome here
I once used the word "banality" and someone told me I was being rude... obviously because he didn't know what the word meant. I later told him and he felt stupid for saying that (because he was).
"We are not what was intended"...
Fucking chamber of horrors.
From usual suspects to se7en.. Kevin Spacey is indeed the 😈
Yeah and all that irl kid diddling does enhance his characters.
Who'd he kill?
@@NobleUnclean wdym who'd he kill?
@@dante666jt You're saying that Spacey is the devil. I haven't heard anything about what he's done, so I was just asking.
@@NobleUnclean He's a kid diddler. Google it.
Briljante movie.
✨エイリアン3の ホラーな雰囲気😊
Kevin Spacey should come back and reprise this role in a prequel.
Dude, he's like 60 years old and a rapist. A fucking prequel?
He’s an old goat now. Wouldn’t work. Plus, it would destroy the mystique of John Doe to focus in on his life which essentially a prequel would do. He’s supposed to be remote and mysterious, not delved into. And I think we’ve had enough of prequels as it is.
Except he turned out to the like one of the victims.
@@sparrowprince3432he’s definitely far from goat
Please no more prequels
The size of that apartment is unrealistic. Most apartments are small and cramped. 🤔🤔
Are you simple minded?
@LoudSiren-123 yes, you taught well.
@BlankName600 yeah... "taught". I think simple minded may be putting it a bit too politely.
@@LoudSiren-123 be quiet knucklehead. 🙄🙄
It is said towards the end of the film he's very wealthy
Anyone in NYC have an apartment this big?
Yes