I have a feeling Chris and I would get along very well! Completely agree with what he's saying and I'd love to push things further in the JavaScript ecosystem in this way.
Random aside: promises originally _did_ stretch over multiple network connections! When markm ported promises to javascript, I suspect he dreaded the conversations he'd need to have with the existing browser standards bodies, who had already proven antagonistic to some of his key insights around security and distributed computing.
A note about the first statement, about serverless and FaaS: they aren't synonims, and they can't be really interchanged. There are approaches that let you build a FaaS infrastructure on a bare metal server. So in cases like this there's an abstraction that hide most of your bare metal infrastructure details, but you're not committing to a fully managed and pay-per-use instance like an AWS lambda service would do.
Trying to do more research on this. Can you point to any sources? I found a presentation on doing this with rootless podman from a couple years ago but thats it so far. Is there a way to achieve functions as a service in kubernetes? Is there a specific OS or application you know of that helps achieve FaaS on prem? Thank you
@@ultravioletiris6241 it's raw, it's early, but someone is trying to achieve FaaS without committing to pay-per-ore. Search for "Apache OpenServerless" incubating project.
I have a feeling Chris and I would get along very well! Completely agree with what he's saying and I'd love to push things further in the JavaScript ecosystem in this way.
Talk to Doug Crockford, he wants to create a new language that mimics erlangs concurrency model.
@williamturner-v1s I worked at PayPal when Doug was there. He talked about his hopes and plans for the web a lot. I disagree with him.
Bruh, learning Elixir has had me rethinking just about everything I know about the web
Just when I fell into a elixir-phoenix rabbit hole of videos on UA-cam and this comes up
Random aside: promises originally _did_ stretch over multiple network connections! When markm ported promises to javascript, I suspect he dreaded the conversations he'd need to have with the existing browser standards bodies, who had already proven antagonistic to some of his key insights around security and distributed computing.
A note about the first statement, about serverless and FaaS: they aren't synonims, and they can't be really interchanged.
There are approaches that let you build a FaaS infrastructure on a bare metal server.
So in cases like this there's an abstraction that hide most of your bare metal infrastructure details, but you're not committing to a fully managed and pay-per-use instance like an AWS lambda service would do.
Trying to do more research on this. Can you point to any sources? I found a presentation on doing this with rootless podman from a couple years ago but thats it so far. Is there a way to achieve functions as a service in kubernetes? Is there a specific OS or application you know of that helps achieve FaaS on prem? Thank you
@@ultravioletiris6241 it's raw, it's early, but someone is trying to achieve FaaS without committing to pay-per-ore.
Search for "Apache OpenServerless" incubating project.
This is a really interesting chat. I love the style.
Loved the chat, great outro :P
one single person against the serverless mafia - go Chris!!
This man is speaking the truth.
Maybe. But tbh deploying wordpress (with mysql) kinda hard. 😅
interesting chat!
So you basically promoted cloudflare ecosystem towards the end lol...
Everything at edge
Dude kinda looks like Edward Norton.
Maybe it's his son?
Nooobody knows elixir, everybody creating bullshit frameworks in the hopes of being somebody and mostly make a useless product