Hi Justin, thank you for making this video!! I purchased a mosolabs combo (bobber500 + Mosolabs radio) and I deployed in Los Angeles 10 min east of downtown LA. My rewards yesterday was stupid low = 2870 mobile tokens equivalent to $11 at this mobile token price. I used a lot of time learning how to deploy the system. Spent over $4000 buying the system and building a 25 foot pole. My rewards in L.A. are terrible. let this be a warning to other looking to deploy expensive CBRS equipment. Nova Labs needs to fix this problem.
@@DoItJustinKace Hello Justin, I worked in Telco for many years. I went through the Mobile site and before you jump in.....I just want to tell you what you may run into. Firstly, the website is an absolute mess....it presents well visually but the content has NOTHING your average consumer wants to know besides price. If you were trying to push mobile to your friends and family they are going to want to know if they can keep their number. How to port the number. What features they can look forward too...what do the data speeds look like....what coverage they can expect (coverage maps). On the website it has instruction how to port from Verizon and AT&T but what about boost, mint, t-mobile, metro pcs, and the slew of other mobile providers? Who does someone call if they have technical issues? Basically NONE of this info is provided on the website. I can think of many other things as well.....the website is too focused on mobile and not focused on being a mobile provider which is what this basically is.....a bunch of independent mnvo's under one umbrella (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) (MVNO) is a company that does not own a mobile spectrum license but sells mobile services under its brand name using the network of a licensed mobile operator.
I would hope this would not pass because the units are not equal and they do not provide equal coverage so they should not get equal rewards. I jumped into the Mobile early on and spent $6000 compared to somebody that spending $250 for a Wi-Fi unit that’s not equal.
I understand that the argument of coverage relates not to distance but the use by people. But I think they should consider then higher rewards for data transfer, or even not offering rewards from the same pool for both types of equipment. This seems like it’s more about profits for themselves and not rewarding the people who are making it all possible.
@@DoItJustinKace it may just be about that profits for themselves. I think that’s the case with a lot of these projects, but I think they should stick to what they originally said which was we would get a higher multiplier for the CBRS radios. Once they change to paying for actual usage, then they should maybe do equal amounts or something like that then
The evolution of helium > "Buy More Hardware... no not that hardware, buy this now" First it was LORA, Then 5G/CBRS, now WiFi???? Feels like I'm going to have a large pile of useless electronics soon... I went FreedomFi route well over a year ago and have been patiently waiting for the mobile/5G launch. Now that launch is here and they are already looking to abandon it. If that happens, I suppose it's shame on all of us that took the gamble. If that happens, I won't be making the same mistake again by making a 3rd bet on WiFi.
@@ScottDiekenNova didn't make money from the Lora sales 98% of all that hardware was sold by 3rd parties.. Nor does ANYONE make money from activation fees, those fees are burned. Nobody gets them. Please stop spreading this misinformation.
@@zerobikeskill exactly. If their aim was to profit off hardware, they’d want to incentivize the more expensive hardware aka CBRS. But instead the aim is to further incentivize the hardware that will facilitate data transfer which raises the price of HNT which raises the price of Mobile. It literally benefits CBRS owners to get more WiFi hardware out there.
I went to the Disc channel in which the HIP-101 is being debated, there's few people pushing back, seems to me when it comes time to vote it's gonna be a close one. I really don't see the people that already purchased the CBRS equipment not voting. My hope is that they can figure out a way to make it work with all phones.
@@DoItJustinKace Curious, why don't you want it to pass? IF CBRS isn't passing data due to the handoff situation being poor, and the large networks Helium hopes to attract are moving in the direction of WiFI, then why wouldn't Helium incentivize the current, best tech? CBRS owners received genesis rewards which amounted to 20% of total Mobile supply, prior to the Solana transition. Except for recent buyers, they are well taken care of.
@@mattm5672 Because it’s about POC which is Proof of Coverage. And coverage means area, not people. If they want to rewards more for people connecting, they should increase data rewards, not POC. Also CBRS at the moment is not passing data because Helium turned it off. Eventually they will turn it on again. Last, people like me have bought CBRS since they ended genesis rewards. Are we supposed to be punished for investing in this system?
Wow I feel your frustration, I was about to buy a Baicels and gateway thanks for pushing this info. I also bought a hotspot and I guess I’ll wait for the outdoor WiFi to become available for purchase.
They're making a clear pivot into Wi-Fi wooden environment 89 (reddit) talked about what we all see it for. They built a nice data farm but now the pivot away from CBRS isn't the move.
@@DoItJustinKace Yeah that's right. Lets hope they can get to work. My equipment comes in this Friday, i think my strategy will be to mine as much as possible and break even then see how things go.
I feel you man. I was on a discord call last night lurking and listening and they did say CBRS is being phased out soon. The key word with Helium is still chaos which is no different than it was 2-3 years ago... The difference now is they are offering a cell phone service which if subpar it will go down in ashes fast
This is incorrect. Nobody said that CBRS is being phased out. And the cell service isn't subpar. At it's *worst* it's as good as T-mobiles as that's the macro network. Add in the dynamic coverage on top of that then it's superior to T-mobile.
I bought the mobile service but i installed the esim, but its not compatible so i need the physical sim. Customer support sux and now I'm 2nd guessing buying the hotspot🤔
You just said that the cheap indoor hotspot only works for high traffic area's, do it apply for all the mobile miners or just the indoor?, which is the best hotspot, you haven't talked about it yet too. Thank you for the vid
I haven't gotten the outdoor one yet. Hopefully in two weeks. So I can't argue what is the best. But long term this only makes sense if you put it in high traffic areas. Short term you can keep it at your house.
@@DoItJustinKaceI originally got a 430 back in 2022 for the Pollen Network, which ended up being a rug pull. It cost me $4K, but luckily I was able to convert it to helium back in Feb 2023 and make up for the cost. Im PassiveJadeKoala not too far away from you in Denver.
T-Mobile customers won’t jump onto your WiFi hotspot. Helium Mobile users install a cert on their phone, that allows them to jump onto the Mobile WiFi hotspots. T-Mobile customers don’t have the cert and will ignore the WiFi. Really curious how many people properly set it up on their phone vs requesting a physical sim and calling it a day. (They won’t use your hotspot either)
This is constructive.........I've seen videos and read that setting up the phone plan for Helium Mobile is pretty easy and straight forward. My opinion is if these hotspots sell and enough people install them well anything can happen, adding CBRS to the mix ( if they can solve the hand off issue) could be a game changer, any thoughts?
I've been running indoor hotspots as outdoor hotspots for years, by sticking them on a pole under a 5 gallon bucket. You have to watch out though, if you don't cover the bottom end with screen door wire, wasps and yellow jackets will build nests up inside the buckets. Sort of like free security for your hardware I guess, but a total nuisance that will have you scrambling and running when you need to work on it. Knock off the nest, run, come back 30 minutes later.
@@DoItJustinKace Even though I'm tech savy, I just learned about all these cryptos tied to real world project miners by learning of Helium IOT, when I bought an Invoxia GPS Motorcycle Theft tracker this month and was wondering why it wasn't getting a GPS lock working... anywhere... I went... at all. Apparently it didn't use the cellular network like I thought, but a Homebrew Helium IOT network that just did not gain any traction (according to their own map) except in big cities. Only even their coverage map is not up to date and all and more of an ephemeral fiction, because I'll drive through covered areas in the city and not get a single connection with any miner. My guess is the network has collapsed and people have started unplugging them (?) I've been scouring maps for prime locations in the big city to setup power poles on people's property in a mutually beneficial exchange or reciprical agreement for an electricity and internet connection, and load up the power poles with a bunch of these miner boxes. Maybe in exchange for placing a telephone pole in their front yard with street access and a connection to their electricity, I pay for access to a free Comcast business internet connection for them, or something similar. Disguised the pole as a palm tree or something like the big cell companies do. Load it up with all kinds of miners and weather stations, 5G and Hotspots, etc. Most of the spots I find already have a cell antenna nearby or similar, verifying its a good location, but I'd also be competing with them... so... I dunno. Long term, I might find myself competing with a thousand pound gorilla... so I would have to build my antenna farms as lean and hungry as possible on the high ground...
Not happy about this.have a lot of radios setup.ive had mine setup since the beginning.ive made my money back and them some with the price going up.I went and bought some of the Wi-Fi units.but I’ve been told that the cbrs is not going away for good but might be 6 months till they can get the android phones to work right.iPhone 14 and up work great but the androids are the problem. I’m actually using a cheap android phone for the helium cell service going thru the Wi-Fi unit and it’s been very good.and I’m mapping with the phone to get more mobile also.there is a guy that has Elmo on his picture that guy is the one that’s been pushing the cbrs out and pushing this Wi-Fi stuff
@@DoItJustinKaceI’ve been told you can.Ill let you know how it goes I’m setting up the Wi-Fi at my one location that has one of my 430 radio there also
@HODLjustinkace I really appreciate you taking the time to post the video and answer my questions. I'll gladly vote against it when it pops up in the app. It just seems counterintuitive to punish the more invested, and hard-core supporters of the Network. We spent thousands of dollars on more elaborate setups when it wasn't clear if 5G would even do well. Now they are entertaining, pulling the rug out from under(again).
ROI is dependent upon location. So I don’t know how they could create a hard number to base things on. But if the costs of equipment is wrong, than that number is wrong.
100% just like IOT, get in and gamble when they first start and cash out when they want everyone else to get in and pump the price (like right now) 🤣 I hope they don't remove my $5 plan. I already made enough mobile to use it for about 8 years free....
I purchased $250 hotspot .... im in a high traffic area in my apartment with a restaurant underneath me and nails salon etcetera... my kids phones are connected to helium network..... so they earn thru mapping and I earn thru my hotspot.... If you spent money on CBRs I understand your frustration, but this is new territories so tred lightly .... this is part of the growing pains with any disruptive technology.... I wish people wasnt so quick to bash 😕..... we have years to keep improving..... there are risks associated with new markets emerging..... dont fomo in to everything give it some time before you hop in to anything.... things change quick in this industry! Ty for the content
Ok I'll start with INDOOR wifi hotspot - Justin don't bother yourself i have the indoor hotspot in a enclosure 25ft top on my roof for 2 days and i see no difference at all .. same 1.3k mobile tokens a day and it's going down everyday because more hotspots are deployed daily. -cbrs - it's gonna happen exactly like what happened with helium hotspots in 2020-2021 . -conclusion: i invested more than 80k in this project 2020 and i was lucky to get half of my ROI and i was thinking 90 hotspots are making me 30-40$ a day fk that . So thankful i found a way to get my money back.
@BlackBl00dbrother to be honest i didn't have it or tried it and i don't think I will waste some money.. NOT FINICIAL ADVICE .. I'm splitting my IOT'S to mobile and hnt
New to Helium. I have the Solana Saga phone and Helium came with. I made 15k $MOBILE first withdrawal and was researching how to get more. Had high powered Baicells and FreedomFi gateway in my shopping cart but was doing more research on mining set ups and came across this video. Instead of CBRS setup im going to buy 20 hotspots. You got fucked. Thank you for your sacrifice.
It seems you really haven't done your homework, if you read the HIP and take a look at the Disc under 5g-CBRS-WIFI, long term CBRS is still gonna be king reason being due to the signal strength and reach, it's a matter of getting the Androids phone to work with the system which they are currently working on it; my recommendation is to do your homework instead of posting ignorant post.
We'll see. I'm playing the long game. While they shut CBRS rewards off for the short term, they may fix the mess they made. I'm crossing my fingers, playing the odds, and getting both.
Justin, Is it fair to say you're criticizing the network without being prepared. Is HIP 101 against the best interest of the network, or yours? At the 18:14 minute you said, "I don't even know how it works"....uh...whaaattt?...Why did you spend all that money, without knowing how it works? You do know that there is a group on discord that you can ask other members in the community. right?
Thanks for making his point of the video with your reply. The average person trying to participate in Helium purely based upon the marketing of their websites is going to have no idea what is working versus "phased out soon" and the websites give no indication of that at the time of purchase. You can't dismiss the reality of this with your "uhh there is a discord and why did you spend the money, how could you not know?" attitude. If discord was a requirement for information, why is it not front and center on their marketing and product info purchasing pages?
@@AlexMartinez-by9nx Is it factual to say that CBRS radios are being phased out? He insuated that Nova Labs is shady by selling him a product about which he stated he did not understand. Is the purpose of this video warn other similarly uninformed customers of this plot of Nova Labs? I hope he's able to get his money back, after buying $2500 of equipment. It's utterly horrible that he'll only be to make his money back within 8-9 days. Wow!!!!
I appreciate you watching to the end. I'd say it's a matter of transparency and fiduciary obligation to those willing to participate in this. As owners of FreedomFi, Helium should state the equipment there has no use for the Helium Network. Someone searching for equipment shouldn't need to go to the discord server and find a channel about HIP-101 to learn that.
Hi Justin, thank you for making this video!! I purchased a mosolabs combo (bobber500 + Mosolabs radio) and I deployed in Los Angeles 10 min east of downtown LA. My rewards yesterday was stupid low = 2870 mobile tokens equivalent to $11 at this mobile token price. I used a lot of time learning how to deploy the system. Spent over $4000 buying the system and building a 25 foot pole. My rewards in L.A. are terrible. let this be a warning to other looking to deploy expensive CBRS equipment. Nova Labs needs to fix this problem.
So sorry to hear all that! Super frustrating! I fear installing mine. I assume it won't be worth it, but we'll see. The planner says it will.
Your location may earn different rewards. We have dense 4g/ 5g deployments in Los Angeles. I am screwed for rewards@@DoItJustinKace
Thanks for pushing this info out so fast. Love your channel and I defiantly understand your frustration.
Thanks man!
@@DoItJustinKace Hello Justin, I worked in Telco for many years. I went through the Mobile site and before you jump in.....I just want to tell you what you may run into. Firstly, the website is an absolute mess....it presents well visually but the content has NOTHING your average consumer wants to know besides price. If you were trying to push mobile to your friends and family they are going to want to know if they can keep their number. How to port the number. What features they can look forward too...what do the data speeds look like....what coverage they can expect (coverage maps). On the website it has instruction how to port from Verizon and AT&T but what about boost, mint, t-mobile, metro pcs, and the slew of other mobile providers? Who does someone call if they have technical issues? Basically NONE of this info is provided on the website. I can think of many other things as well.....the website is too focused on mobile and not focused on being a mobile provider which is what this basically is.....a bunch of independent mnvo's under one umbrella (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) (MVNO) is a company that does not own a mobile spectrum license but sells mobile services under its brand name using the network of a licensed mobile operator.
I would hope this would not pass because the units are not equal and they do not provide equal coverage so they should not get equal rewards. I jumped into the Mobile early on and spent $6000 compared to somebody that spending $250 for a Wi-Fi unit that’s not equal.
Is it better to get the wifi units?
Like when u like the earning from spending $6000 isn’t worth it?
I understand that the argument of coverage relates not to distance but the use by people. But I think they should consider then higher rewards for data transfer, or even not offering rewards from the same pool for both types of equipment. This seems like it’s more about profits for themselves and not rewarding the people who are making it all possible.
If the Wi-Fi units are cheaper than it’s probably better to just get the Wi-Fi units. When I purchased mine, the only option were the CBRS radio.
@@DoItJustinKace it may just be about that profits for themselves. I think that’s the case with a lot of these projects, but I think they should stick to what they originally said which was we would get a higher multiplier for the CBRS radios. Once they change to paying for actual usage, then they should maybe do equal amounts or something like that then
The evolution of helium > "Buy More Hardware... no not that hardware, buy this now" First it was LORA, Then 5G/CBRS, now WiFi???? Feels like I'm going to have a large pile of useless electronics soon... I went FreedomFi route well over a year ago and have been patiently waiting for the mobile/5G launch. Now that launch is here and they are already looking to abandon it. If that happens, I suppose it's shame on all of us that took the gamble. If that happens, I won't be making the same mistake again by making a 3rd bet on WiFi.
exactly this is a crypto company that pushes hardware and they make money off the hardware and activations
I’m going to try to pay attention more about all this. I’ll let you know and hopefully you can move it all over to crankk.io
@@ScottDiekenNova didn't make money from the Lora sales 98% of all that hardware was sold by 3rd parties.. Nor does ANYONE make money from activation fees, those fees are burned. Nobody gets them.
Please stop spreading this misinformation.
Freedomfi that was the main supplier selling cbrs radios to everybody is OWNED BY NOVA
@@zerobikeskill exactly.
If their aim was to profit off hardware, they’d want to incentivize the more expensive hardware aka CBRS. But instead the aim is to further incentivize the hardware that will facilitate data transfer which raises the price of HNT which raises the price of Mobile. It literally benefits CBRS owners to get more WiFi hardware out there.
I went to the Disc channel in which the HIP-101 is being debated, there's few people pushing back, seems to me when it comes time to vote it's gonna be a close one. I really don't see the people that already purchased the CBRS equipment not voting. My hope is that they can figure out a way to make it work with all phones.
There's a few loud people. But I get that wifi owners want more money. I still hope it doesn't pass.
@@DoItJustinKace Curious, why don't you want it to pass?
IF CBRS isn't passing data due to the handoff situation being poor, and the large networks Helium hopes to attract are moving in the direction of WiFI, then why wouldn't Helium incentivize the current, best tech?
CBRS owners received genesis rewards which amounted to 20% of total Mobile supply, prior to the Solana transition. Except for recent buyers, they are well taken care of.
@@mattm5672 Because it’s about POC which is Proof of Coverage. And coverage means area, not people. If they want to rewards more for people connecting, they should increase data rewards, not POC. Also CBRS at the moment is not passing data because Helium turned it off. Eventually they will turn it on again. Last, people like me have bought CBRS since they ended genesis rewards. Are we supposed to be punished for investing in this system?
Wow I feel your frustration, I was about to buy a Baicels and gateway thanks for pushing this info. I also bought a hotspot and I guess I’ll wait for the outdoor WiFi to become available for purchase.
Probably a better plan. They should be available in 2 weeks.
They're making a clear pivot into Wi-Fi wooden environment 89 (reddit) talked about what we all see it for. They built a nice data farm but now the pivot away from CBRS isn't the move.
:( I just purchased a CBR 430h and Gateway.. Shoot . Any ideas if this passes when they phase them out. Thanks Justin for the info
I'm on the same boat as you
This passing would not be a phase out. But if they can’t get it working then they would want to phase them out, right?
@@DoItJustinKace Yeah that's right. Lets hope they can get to work. My equipment comes in this Friday, i think my strategy will be to mine as much as possible and break even then see how things go.
I feel you man. I was on a discord call last night lurking and listening and they did say CBRS is being phased out soon. The key word with Helium is still chaos which is no different than it was 2-3 years ago... The difference now is they are offering a cell phone service which if subpar it will go down in ashes fast
I might have been on the same call which got me researching this.
This is incorrect. Nobody said that CBRS is being phased out.
And the cell service isn't subpar. At it's *worst* it's as good as T-mobiles as that's the macro network. Add in the dynamic coverage on top of that then it's superior to T-mobile.
I bought the mobile service but i installed the esim, but its not compatible so i need the physical sim. Customer support sux and now I'm 2nd guessing buying the hotspot🤔
Yeah. I thought they'd send me a sim automatically but they didn't. Mine arrives today.
You just said that the cheap indoor hotspot only works for high traffic area's, do it apply for all the mobile miners or just the indoor?, which is the best hotspot, you haven't talked about it yet too. Thank you for the vid
I haven't gotten the outdoor one yet. Hopefully in two weeks. So I can't argue what is the best. But long term this only makes sense if you put it in high traffic areas. Short term you can keep it at your house.
Everyone should do a bunch of research before FOMOing into these projects. I’m happy with my Wi-Fi router so far.
We all should do our own research. But I’m happy to report what I’ve learned. I’m happy today with mine. Wasn’t so sure about it the last two days.
They were going for $550 on heliumdeploy in October, crazy they are already up to $1700
Yeah. I was not happy. They upped the price about 3 weeks ago.
@@DoItJustinKaceI originally got a 430 back in 2022 for the Pollen Network, which ended up being a rug pull. It cost me $4K, but luckily I was able to convert it to helium back in Feb 2023 and make up for the cost. Im PassiveJadeKoala not too far away from you in Denver.
T-Mobile customers won’t jump onto your WiFi hotspot.
Helium Mobile users install a cert on their phone, that allows them to jump onto the Mobile WiFi hotspots. T-Mobile customers don’t have the cert and will ignore the WiFi.
Really curious how many people properly set it up on their phone vs requesting a physical sim and calling it a day. (They won’t use your hotspot either)
This is constructive.........I've seen videos and read that setting up the phone plan for Helium Mobile is pretty easy and straight forward. My opinion is if these hotspots sell and enough people install them well anything can happen, adding CBRS to the mix ( if they can solve the hand off issue) could be a game changer, any thoughts?
Awe, we'll I get my sim in two days. Guess I'll learn more then. But thanks!
More store owners need to install them. Then we'll see. But I hope they fix the CBRS issue.
I've been running indoor hotspots as outdoor hotspots for years, by sticking them on a pole under a 5 gallon bucket.
You have to watch out though, if you don't cover the bottom end with screen door wire, wasps and yellow jackets will build nests up inside the buckets.
Sort of like free security for your hardware I guess, but a total nuisance that will have you scrambling and running when you need to work on it. Knock off the nest, run, come back 30 minutes later.
You’re talking about the IOT not the Helium Mobile.
@@DoItJustinKace Even though I'm tech savy, I just learned about all these cryptos tied to real world project miners by learning of Helium IOT, when I bought an Invoxia GPS Motorcycle Theft tracker this month and was wondering why it wasn't getting a GPS lock working... anywhere... I went... at all.
Apparently it didn't use the cellular network like I thought, but a Homebrew Helium IOT network that just did not gain any traction (according to their own map) except in big cities. Only even their coverage map is not up to date and all and more of an ephemeral fiction, because I'll drive through covered areas in the city and not get a single connection with any miner. My guess is the network has collapsed and people have started unplugging them (?)
I've been scouring maps for prime locations in the big city to setup power poles on people's property in a mutually beneficial exchange or reciprical agreement for an electricity and internet connection, and load up the power poles with a bunch of these miner boxes. Maybe in exchange for placing a telephone pole in their front yard with street access and a connection to their electricity, I pay for access to a free Comcast business internet connection for them, or something similar. Disguised the pole as a palm tree or something like the big cell companies do. Load it up with all kinds of miners and weather stations, 5G and Hotspots, etc.
Most of the spots I find already have a cell antenna nearby or similar, verifying its a good location, but I'd also be competing with them... so... I dunno. Long term, I might find myself competing with a thousand pound gorilla... so I would have to build my antenna farms as lean and hungry as possible on the high ground...
Not happy about this.have a lot of radios setup.ive had mine setup since the beginning.ive made my money back and them some with the price going up.I went and bought some of the Wi-Fi units.but I’ve been told that the cbrs is not going away for good but might be 6 months till they can get the android phones to work right.iPhone 14 and up work great but the androids are the problem. I’m actually using a cheap android phone for the helium cell service going thru the Wi-Fi unit and it’s been very good.and I’m mapping with the phone to get more mobile also.there is a guy that has Elmo on his picture that guy is the one that’s been pushing the cbrs out and pushing this Wi-Fi stuff
I need to see if I can have overlapping CBRS and WIFI coverage.
@@DoItJustinKaceI’ve been told you can.Ill let you know how it goes I’m setting up the Wi-Fi at my one location that has one of my 430 radio there also
Hard No on 101 here...
Agreed because it’s all about POC and that means coverage.
bro we are in the same page. Nobody knows how this really works, thanks for putting it out there.
Glad to help. Hopefully it won't even be voted on.
Where would I go to vote against this? Also, thank you for posting.
Not up for a vote yet. But when it does it will pop up in the app.
@HODLjustinkace I really appreciate you taking the time to post the video and answer my questions.
I'll gladly vote against it when it pops up in the app. It just seems counterintuitive to punish the more invested, and hard-core supporters of the Network. We spent thousands of dollars on more elaborate setups when it wasn't clear if 5G would even do well. Now they are entertaining, pulling the rug out from under(again).
piss poor planning. the first question i asked myself when i heard about 5g is how will the handoffs work. im no network engineer.
Yeah. Agreed.
Would you cancel the $2500 one then?
If I can make my money back before things go bad I will.
they are saying the ROI should be 8 months. so to ROI on any of the devices this fast would be insane regardless of the price of them.
ROI is dependent upon location. So I don’t know how they could create a hard number to base things on. But if the costs of equipment is wrong, than that number is wrong.
100% just like IOT, get in and gamble when they first start and cash out when they want everyone else to get in and pump the price (like right now) 🤣 I hope they don't remove my $5 plan. I already made enough mobile to use it for about 8 years free....
Good for you! Wish I could say the same.
I purchased $250 hotspot .... im in a high traffic area in my apartment with a restaurant underneath me and nails salon etcetera... my kids phones are connected to helium network..... so they earn thru mapping and I earn thru my hotspot.... If you spent money on CBRs I understand your frustration, but this is new territories so tred lightly .... this is part of the growing pains with any disruptive technology.... I wish people wasnt so quick to bash 😕..... we have years to keep improving..... there are risks associated with new markets emerging..... dont fomo in to everything give it some time before you hop in to anything.... things change quick in this industry! Ty for the content
I hear you. That said, I’m hoping I can have a G5 and a Wi-Fi at the same location and all will be good.
SO IS IT STILL PROFITABLE TO BUY A CBRS AND SET IT UP OR NOT ???
In one more week things will change with 1/3rd of a HIP going into effect. So you’ll just have to wait and see.
How can a $500 and a $2500 device be equal makes no sense! VOTE NO ON HIP 101!
Hopefully it won't even be voted on.
is this really the only way? thats the real question. yeah iphone 14 users arent the demographic for cheap cellular plans
Do you mean is HIP-101 the only way? Nope, it’s not.
Thank you for your video.
You are welcome
when i first read it i had all kinds of questions. this feels like were being scammed. 300 million no votes from me.
Agreed!
typical Nova Labs- Helium F- style....why is this no wonder? If you spend any money on their "products", you and your money is more or less lost
I'm hoping they get things fixed and that's why they don't tell people the issues.
Just sue them.
Ok I'll start with INDOOR wifi hotspot
- Justin don't bother yourself i have the indoor hotspot in a enclosure 25ft top on my roof for 2 days and i see no difference at all .. same 1.3k mobile tokens a day and it's going down everyday because more hotspots are deployed daily.
-cbrs - it's gonna happen exactly like what happened with helium hotspots in 2020-2021 .
-conclusion: i invested more than 80k in this project 2020 and i was lucky to get half of my ROI and i was thinking 90 hotspots are making me 30-40$ a day fk that .
So thankful i found a way to get my money back.
What do you recommend to do like should I get the $500 outdoor miner?
@BlackBl00dbrother to be honest i didn't have it or tried it and i don't think I will waste some money.. NOT FINICIAL ADVICE .. I'm splitting my IOT'S to mobile and hnt
It’s ordered. But yeah, I don’t have faith.
It’s a good thing. 👍
Sure. Good for some, bad for others.
@@DoItJustinKace good for all. Helps network grow faster and more efficiently. You pulled the trigger too fast, you will recoup in no time.
New to Helium. I have the Solana Saga phone and Helium came with. I made 15k $MOBILE first withdrawal and was researching how to get more. Had high powered Baicells and FreedomFi gateway in my shopping cart but was doing more research on mining set ups and came across this video. Instead of CBRS setup im going to buy 20 hotspots.
You got fucked. Thank you for your sacrifice.
It seems you really haven't done your homework, if you read the HIP and take a look at the Disc under 5g-CBRS-WIFI, long term CBRS is still gonna be king reason being due to the signal strength and reach, it's a matter of getting the Androids phone to work with the system which they are currently working on it; my recommendation is to do your homework instead of posting ignorant post.
We'll see. I'm playing the long game. While they shut CBRS rewards off for the short term, they may fix the mess they made. I'm crossing my fingers, playing the odds, and getting both.
Please feel free to share a few links of your own research and I'll be happy to look into it.
Yield projects are just terrible across the board.
Yeah, but I’m in it for the long haul. Not sure about the new direction tho.
Justin,
Is it fair to say you're criticizing the network without being prepared. Is HIP 101 against the best interest of the network, or yours? At the 18:14 minute you said, "I don't even know how it works"....uh...whaaattt?...Why did you spend all that money, without knowing how it works? You do know that there is a group on discord that you can ask other members in the community.
right?
Thanks for making his point of the video with your reply. The average person trying to participate in Helium purely based upon the marketing of their websites is going to have no idea what is working versus "phased out soon" and the websites give no indication of that at the time of purchase. You can't dismiss the reality of this with your "uhh there is a discord and why did you spend the money, how could you not know?" attitude. If discord was a requirement for information, why is it not front and center on their marketing and product info purchasing pages?
the bigger question is why are they still selling the CBRS radios knowing they might get phased out, kinda not cool.
well said @@teknologyguy5638
@@AlexMartinez-by9nx Is it factual to say that CBRS radios are being phased out? He insuated that Nova Labs is shady by selling him a product about which he stated he did not understand. Is the purpose of this video warn other similarly uninformed customers of this plot of Nova Labs?
I hope he's able to get his money back, after buying $2500 of equipment. It's utterly horrible that he'll only be to make his money back within 8-9 days. Wow!!!!
I appreciate you watching to the end. I'd say it's a matter of transparency and fiduciary obligation to those willing to participate in this. As owners of FreedomFi, Helium should state the equipment there has no use for the Helium Network. Someone searching for equipment shouldn't need to go to the discord server and find a channel about HIP-101 to learn that.