An Unhinged Rant About Arena

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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024

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  • @bleat2100
    @bleat2100 11 місяців тому +126

    playing arena should be a one of jaegers quests

    • @yannick4895
      @yannick4895 11 місяців тому

      "Kill the entire enemy team with your melee weapon, oh yeah and you have to do it in the same round else I wont count it, now go fuck yourself"

    • @Vanawy
      @Vanawy 11 місяців тому +4

      🤣true

    • @Alexmaine1
      @Alexmaine1 11 місяців тому +3

      Why must you hurt me like this. 😂

    • @soap6264
      @soap6264 11 місяців тому +3

      Probs will be

  • @smuggen
    @smuggen 11 місяців тому +54

    Marketing Arena as an “Esports Ready Game” is so fucking funny to me.
    Judging by how long it takes BSG to develop literally anything, this game won’t move fast enough to keep players coming back to it.
    EFT is so much waiting and i thought this was going to be the “i can’t be bothered to wait, i just wanna hopp in and shoot stuff” but there’s just as much waiting in Arena as EFT.
    They couldn’t even be bothered to fix a gamemode with respawns lmao

    • @hermitgreenn
      @hermitgreenn 11 місяців тому +4

      Worse than that, a game doesn't need a constant drip feed of content to retain a playerbase, just look at CSGO. The thing is Arena lays bare just how clunky the shooting mechanics are when put in a deathmatch style gamemode.

    • @jonathanoriley8260
      @jonathanoriley8260 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@hermitgreenn That's because contrary to what everyone believes, EFT's gunplay is _not_ realistic nor hardcore. Tarkov's gunplay is RPG combat disguised as an FPS shooter; it's a numbers game where skills and loot stats are the defining factors. In reality, EFT's gunplay has more in common with _Fallout 4's_ than a proper hardcore milsim like ArmA, Squad, and Insurgency Sandstorm.
      The thing is, most EFT plauers have never truly realized how bad the gunplay actually is, because gunfights are so spontaneous and brief that most don't get the chance to properly get a feel for it. But Arena has changed that: its fast paced "competitive" gameplay means everyone gets to experience what the gunplay is actually like in a consistent setting. And its shows that the gunplay is incredibly lacking, for both a "hardcore" experience and a "competitive" setting.

  • @cyandrix
    @cyandrix 11 місяців тому +7

    3:11 "I need to heal, my thorax is almost 0"
    Tarkov's healing system: oh lets heal that arm of yours instead.
    "E-sports ready"

    • @baikal9268
      @baikal9268 11 місяців тому

      Bind your medkit key to press type "release" and now you can hold the medkit key and use your scroll wheel to choose what bodypart you want to heal.

    • @ratfucker6604
      @ratfucker6604 11 місяців тому

      yes the fact they added this feature in this wipe but said nah it gonna come to arena later i kind of get it that they have to test the stuff in normal tarkov but you gotta test shit like the recoil and armour overhaul not hold and release key + scroll to pick a limb to heal

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 10 місяців тому

      ​@@baikal9268doesn't work for arena apparently for whatever reason

    • @Chrischos
      @Chrischos 5 місяців тому

      @@baikal9268 No, nom, in 2024 the game should do it for u like ABI does recommendinjg the thing and actually fixing the important thing

  • @missjibb337
    @missjibb337 11 місяців тому +16

    The ranked system to unlock guns/gear is horrible. Unlock everything and see who is more skilled at Tarkov.

  • @teheheheboi
    @teheheheboi 11 місяців тому +5

    Bro looks like Jschlatt if Jschlatt was a divorced dad

  • @simko6064
    @simko6064 11 місяців тому +14

    the fact there is not editable presets or point-buy loadout mechanic is horrible, the thing I loved about tarkov the most was the weapon modding and freedom in choosing what you bring.

    • @casualponyfag2815
      @casualponyfag2815 11 місяців тому +1

      ... unless you go into a raid and quickly realize that utility is worth more than eshetics.
      The fact that I've seen very few well-thought and pleasing builds taught me one thing - nobody cares about the beauty of the build.
      95% of the playerbase are going into raid with one of 4-6 guns (because thats how many guns in EFT are actually usable and give a chance to compete), and they just slap whatever mods they have that reduce recoil the most.
      I've had quite a few random people to play with, most of them just copied gun builds from streamers and didn't have a problem with it.
      That's why the presets are not going to be a problem for the majority of players. They couldn't even be bothered to create their own build in EFT, why would they care about aesthetics and modification in Arena?
      And by the way, what's the point of spending half an hour putting together a "marvellous and pleasing m4 build", if you dont stand a fighting chance with this against any meta guns? The other guy just slapped together streamer build for m4 in a minute, absolutely destroyed you and threw your "work of art" in the trash bin.
      Utility over beauty. With the way weapon modification works in Tarkov, nobody would be bothered to make their own presets. It will all just boil down to meta.

    • @_VinSi
      @_VinSi 11 місяців тому

      ​@@casualponyfag2815But at least meta builds look cool, also you can kinda change them around depending on preference, not by much but you can make a few tradeoff here and there for more ergo if you prefear it or for less recoil, in arena not only can't you do that, but the gun presets also look like shit, they just slapped random mods on the guns gave them random stats and called it a day, not to mention the sights they decided to put on them are all fucking terrible

  • @AndreasMnck
    @AndreasMnck 11 місяців тому +2

    Arena as an Avant Garde art piece is the kind of take we come to Joey for.

  • @FGC292
    @FGC292 11 місяців тому +3

    I don't understand why they just don't go the Robocraft (dead game, i know) route and allow you to build your own kits and calculate what you are using with a "gear score" that matches you against people with similar tiers of gear score. With stuff like face shields adding a lot of gear score.
    I can't even enjoy Arena because literally *every* match I get into I am facing guys in class 5-6 armor with altyns. You CANT kill them. As soon as they see you, you either get 1 tapped or sprayed down. Their time to kill against me is 1 seconds tops, mine against them is like 6 seconds assuming I shoot their legs.

  • @rhettshanley8712
    @rhettshanley8712 11 місяців тому +7

    At first I was excited for this. But after watching the stream the other day and this video. I don’t care about arena anymore. Atp just waiting for wipe

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 11 місяців тому

      I always knew it wasn't for me, but as an extra mode I wondered if it could even be fun once in a while. This isn't it lol. At all

  • @pityu2137
    @pityu2137 11 місяців тому +3

    you made that salute twisted

  • @tombosley3048
    @tombosley3048 11 місяців тому +8

    It makes me so mad to watch these videos of people complaining about Arena when most people including myself can't even play the game we paid for. It's not this creators fault or any creator for that matter but god damn, BSG continues to just shit on every customer they have ever had

    • @mikedebakker5820
      @mikedebakker5820 11 місяців тому

      So what people who do have acces aren't allowed to criticize the game? That's just such braindead logic.

    • @dude6333
      @dude6333 11 місяців тому

      Det er sku de skide russere simpelthen bare en dårligere form for person

    • @nighthawk3305
      @nighthawk3305 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mikedebakker5820brother you need better reading skills...

    • @mikedebakker5820
      @mikedebakker5820 11 місяців тому

      @@nighthawk3305 why?

    • @Jimbo7
      @Jimbo7 11 місяців тому

      @@mikedebakker5820 because they're saying they're mad at BSG, not at the guy criticizing the game lol

  • @morcakmorce7132
    @morcakmorce7132 11 місяців тому +3

    Arena would be a great thing, if it was a part of the normal game. Like imagine getting your gear ready for short intense fight, where you can bet your rubles on your win.... That would be so much better

  • @Dominique9325
    @Dominique9325 11 місяців тому +11

    Now that you really think about it, the main reason why anyone would want to play arena is because they want more action, less waiting time. And that's what most people expected arena to be. It's quite ironic that it turned out to be yet another waiting simulator with both the loading times and waiting time inbetween rounds, while being just a severely watered down version of the original game and being priced as an entirely different game.

  • @MrBboy95
    @MrBboy95 11 місяців тому +4

    After few games apart from things pointed in video I noticed that Arena is turning slowly into regular EFT where everyone is too scared to move and it's campfest really quick

  • @SoloMan908
    @SoloMan908 11 місяців тому +3

    I would agree with you on everything but the gunplay being good in eft. The gunplay is what brought me to tarkov prior to the major recoil change in 12.12 because any gun was viable modified or not and it was dependent on skill but now it's dependent on if your gun is meta or not as well as do you have a mag big enough to allow auto recoil compensation to do its thing.

  • @JordanHarris
    @JordanHarris 11 місяців тому +1

    Ngl it's kinda weird that your not just a depressed stick figure

  • @JordanHarris
    @JordanHarris 11 місяців тому +3

    I'm not in LOVE with Arena. But, it's much easier to play than regular Tarkov. It lowers the time to play entry barrier for a lot of people. And I think it will improve the skill ceiling in regular Tarkov. I think with time they will get the Desync fixed. They've been pumping the desync way up to try and find what's causing it. It felt much better after they updated. And I'm sure they will continue to update. They obviously have to keep making games to keep their servers alive so I see nothing wrong here. Just early kinks that need to be worked out.

    • @_VinSi
      @_VinSi 11 місяців тому

      They won't fix the desync, they are not able to, if they were eft wouldn't be such a mess

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 10 місяців тому

      ​@@_VinSieh? Both arena and EFT run on the same source, if one gets fixed or improved then the other does as well and they have pretty obviously worked hard to eliminate as much desync as possible in the recent past. What you have stated is basically "its always going to be crap because it has been crap in the past" and is very circular in its cause and effect logic.

    • @_VinSi
      @_VinSi 10 місяців тому

      @@balinthehater8205 They have been trying to fix the desync for years, showing that they are not capable of doing so

  • @sugarc1rcles
    @sugarc1rcles 10 місяців тому

    what's funny is that even if for some reason the timer runs out on the objective, you get raiders that come in. At that point it's basically RNG dependent what team is gonna win the round based on where the raiders spawn, which has resulted in some of the most ratty round wins i have ever fucking seen in my life

  • @thegreenestpotato1770
    @thegreenestpotato1770 11 місяців тому +4

    Joeydope, you look exactly like how I expect you to look, but slightly less morbidly obese.

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 11 місяців тому

      I'm judgemental, but from his voice I expected someone not bearded.

  • @bbbbbbb51
    @bbbbbbb51 11 місяців тому +1

    I hugely agree with 9:25
    If Arena was just TDM Tarkov with a few different modes, a variety of loadouts, random loadouts, gun game, whatever, that would've been enough. Them trying to make it so esporty and competitive has me having absolutely no interest in it at all. Not just because its not what I'm looking for, but also because they're going about it in the worst of ways.

  • @soapybanana1
    @soapybanana1 10 місяців тому

    How cool would it be if the way to access arena mode was in the hideout on the playstation, like your pmc sits on the couch and grabs the controller, then it boots you into an arena match

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly 10 місяців тому

    Oh, another nasty surprise: the settings in Arena f--k up your settings in the main game. So if you try to adjust sound or colors to match Arena, it messes up your main game.

  • @woundedlobster
    @woundedlobster 11 місяців тому +1

    Only a Brit would call this "an unhinged rant". I think it's closer to a "formal grilling".

    • @OldManBadly
      @OldManBadly 10 місяців тому

      or telling the truth....

  • @adamen111
    @adamen111 11 місяців тому +1

    Still cant play got my EOD in 1885

  • @WGabor
    @WGabor 11 місяців тому +13

    Why publish a new game when the main game isn't even out, has a lot of problems, and the new game has even more problems which leads to more work. It will take them a lot of time until they finish both of the games. I wonder when will they start developing their dream game Russia 2028... probably after 2028? They should add 10 more years to that title because that is the date when it will be released.

    • @wouterzonneveld2305
      @wouterzonneveld2305 11 місяців тому +7

      Because money

    • @siriusgaming3648
      @siriusgaming3648 11 місяців тому

      arena is/was made by a separate team and the current dev for tarkov was not affected

    • @SiiCKREC0RDH1TS
      @SiiCKREC0RDH1TS 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@siriusgaming3648you wish buddy 😂😂

  • @akylexd
    @akylexd 11 місяців тому +13

    What they should of done is having 1 preset per life in a match. So you gotta try survive with that preset until you die. So you gotta spend money on the next round for another preset. But whatever you loot and survive with can get you more money. Money should be a driving factor and something people can loose but gain if you kill a juiced up player.

    • @TripleAlfafa
      @TripleAlfafa 11 місяців тому

      There also would have to be at least one free kit for every class, if that's done.

    • @thecaledonian7643
      @thecaledonian7643 11 місяців тому

      Anything to make more money tbh. I've only had one game that broke the 200k payout, and that was with a kit that cost half that. Its hard to earn since you get fuckall for losing, despite your efforts, and there's nothing to spend money on other than kits. I'd like to see if we were allowed to purchase basic kit upgrades for a loadout (ie. Better ammo this game but raises gear score), then the economy wouldn't seem so stagnant.

    • @friendlysnoworb6091
      @friendlysnoworb6091 11 місяців тому

      ​@@thecaledonian7643 winning will compensate your kit cost, everything shown as your earnings is what you actually earn

    • @friendlysnoworb6091
      @friendlysnoworb6091 11 місяців тому

      I gotta be honest. that sounds like absolute ass

  • @RealLilVodka
    @RealLilVodka 11 місяців тому +2

    I would be able to form my own opinion on arena but I can’t play it, even though I’ve had EOD for well over a year.

  • @HoggnoDerHenker
    @HoggnoDerHenker 11 місяців тому +2

    As a german im pretty sure that thing at the end was a hitler salute

  • @wouterzonneveld2305
    @wouterzonneveld2305 11 місяців тому +4

    I predicted this from the moment I heard what arena was going to be. Tarkov is a a game which is not make for fast-paced combat, but is a tactical looter shooter. Tarkov will likely never be a good base platform for anything like tdm/s&d/ctf, because it is simply worse than existing shooters in those gamemodes. It will require drastic changes for BSG to turn arena into something that people would rather play over cod/bf when they are looking for a fast paced shooter.

  • @moottruth
    @moottruth 11 місяців тому +1

    Man I love arena it hits all of my fps sweet spots I know it’s not for everyone but fuck I’m gonna waste so much time on it

  • @dom_40
    @dom_40 11 місяців тому

    Wow. I didn't know the best tarkov content creator is also the most handsome

  • @crappytoast2441
    @crappytoast2441 11 місяців тому +1

    I think they said that arena access was granted to people with the longest account lifetime, not EOD lifetime. Which still is not actually what they said, but yeah nobody seems to know this.
    Also, I agree with most of the rant, although I do feel like arena is different from the original because it's supposed to be more casual, right? My friends would never play the original Tarkov, because of the steep learning curve with almost infinite amount of hours to put in to get to lvl. 42. Arena kind of brings my friends into the Tarkov universe and I think that arena is also just targeting these people.
    And fully agree with the e-sports part. Even more crazy than the desync and shit imo is that most of the streamers, even the tiny twitch channels are way better than those 'professionals'. Like, I don't mean to be rude, but come on, we all watched them play and know that they aren't as good as that small streamer that destroyed you in dorms on customs.

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 11 місяців тому +1

      That just plainly not even remotely true. Plenty of people just bought eod and got access while 5-6 year old accounts were left behind.

  • @BaileyBecca
    @BaileyBecca 11 місяців тому

    I think they said it’s based on when you purchased the game not EOD so you could have upgraded recently but played sense the beginning

  • @lumlino7681
    @lumlino7681 11 місяців тому +1

    i got 2200 hours and had eod forever and still don't have it lmao

  • @younai6993
    @younai6993 11 місяців тому +1

    Runescape stream when?

  • @dude6333
    @dude6333 11 місяців тому +1

    God video bliv ved med det gode arbejde

  • @AtomicPuma9
    @AtomicPuma9 10 місяців тому

    I didn’t watch this when it first came out even though I got access the day this video dropped and my god, spot on with every single point. It’s not tarkov, it doesn’t give you the same feelings as tarkov because there’s no stakes whatsoever. Oh sorry, your 25 rep is on the line, whooopie! I played 20 games both solo and 4-5 man squads. And I honestly just can’t see myself playing it anymore. I’m glad I got it with EOD that I purchased back in 2020. I’ll stick with my EFT, not arena. Thank god the wipe is happening tonight, got into Barotrauma with my friends and it was a better purchase than arena, mind you. I paid $20 for the game and another $20 for a buddy. As to where I didn’t spend any money on arena…

  • @Vanawy
    @Vanawy 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice video. Just got access to this abomination and dnot really want to open it. Salute (not a bad one)

  • @matthewh6172
    @matthewh6172 8 місяців тому

    Arena is hopefully the grounding Nikita sorely needs. He bottled lightning once, and it wasn't with Arena. Who the hell wants to play the PvP mode, but with scav equipment? Utter madness.

  • @TheUnaBoomer
    @TheUnaBoomer 11 місяців тому +1

    I still can't play, I bought EOD in like 2018

  • @hiddenmaster6062
    @hiddenmaster6062 9 місяців тому

    4:40 Tarkov's coloring is so dark and shit, you can't tell what color the armband is. You're lucky if you can tell what color someone's general outfit is. THAT's why Santa gets killed so often, among many others. Nobody can tell who's who.

  • @EnderGraff1
    @EnderGraff1 11 місяців тому +2

    Dang did you write this? 2:00

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly 10 місяців тому

    Is it fun? Nope. It is incredibly discouraging, negative. As a middling player, the game makes me feel like I can't hear, can't shoot, and can't see. Winning has almost no rewards and losing picks away at your money. The game makes me feel slow, stupid, and a really bad player who should give up on Tarkov entirely.
    Basically, it is the worst thing they could have done.

  • @Dave-dl6ql
    @Dave-dl6ql 11 місяців тому

    Ironically enough they could’ve very nearly copied csgo’s objective based gameplay with the addition of more complex armor economy and made a much more satisfying experience

  • @frankfochtman4800
    @frankfochtman4800 11 місяців тому +2

    I like arena 🤷‍♂️ but please carry on JD. Love the channel

  • @kristapsrutkovskis5561
    @kristapsrutkovskis5561 11 місяців тому

    I really dislike arena right now. Now bear in mind ive never played it but what ticks me off is when devs relese an early access game, and them release DLC before its finished. Its kind of like what ark did with scorched earth. Game was half finished but they spent their time working on dlc.

    • @OldManBadly
      @OldManBadly 10 місяців тому

      Thing is, for me it isn't even "early access"... this stuff doesn't even barely qualify as an ALPHA release, let alone a beta. The game is non functional. The math of winning and losing is screwed. It assures that some of us weaker players will literally run out of money and points and be able to do nothing except hatch run, and be fodder. So at a point, you won't play. So fewer and fewer players will be left.
      The kits in class D+ are so wide as to be stupid. The 1 shot shotgun versus a guy will a fully auto 18C with a 50 rounder. NICE. That sure sounds like a reasonable battle.
      Hit registration is borked. The kill cam shows you what the game saw, and it's nowhere like what I see when I play. Game shows me like I am standing in the middle of the open when I am just peeking cover. If that is what the other player is seeing, then I know why I suck so hard at this game.

    • @kristapsrutkovskis5561
      @kristapsrutkovskis5561 10 місяців тому

      @@OldManBadly i think you misunderstood what i meant a little. Im not saying that arena is broken (maybe it is maybe it isnt havent played it so i have no idea). What ticks me off is BSG focusing in releasing a PAID (not everyone has EOD) DLC instead of focusing on finishing their game. DLC comes when and only when your game is completely finished and fully released.

    • @OldManBadly
      @OldManBadly 10 місяців тому

      @@kristapsrutkovskis5561 I agree. Thing is, if it was a perfectly functional, impressive, and complete DLC, we might be able to be okay with it. I was hoping it was going to show a new, improved PvP / netcode / desync resolution that would ultimately make the main game better. But it is none of that. It's a paid Alpha.

  • @meggiesfungus1098
    @meggiesfungus1098 11 місяців тому +2

    I hope its fun cuz if been waiting too long for this to be as bad as you say it is lol

  • @spiko331
    @spiko331 11 місяців тому

    I agree

  • @zeburgerkang
    @zeburgerkang 11 місяців тому

    finally got my access, play 5 games.... its cod, with extra steps.

  • @_VinSi
    @_VinSi 11 місяців тому

    What did you even expect, it's bsg we are talking about here ofc it sucks, it also won't ever come out of beta, just like the base game

  • @mr.concern8798
    @mr.concern8798 11 місяців тому

    8:15
    lets be honest. BSG never knew how to make a good game. they knew how to make a good idea of a game but their development skills are far below what it should be.

  • @mariuscatalin5982
    @mariuscatalin5982 11 місяців тому

    they literally tried to go back to the original roots of their games,contract wars.............there is only one problem THEY ALREADY MADE HIRED OPS quite literally the same game but more arcadey

  • @Jack70M
    @Jack70M 11 місяців тому +1

    Now this, is based

  • @grzybeg1155
    @grzybeg1155 11 місяців тому

    You look british

  • @jaedenlevario5829
    @jaedenlevario5829 10 місяців тому

    Bro think he leviathan

  • @HenrySetagaGaming
    @HenrySetagaGaming 11 місяців тому

    straight to point

  • @Monanniverse
    @Monanniverse 11 місяців тому +1

    You don't have to copy NakeyJakey man. You were doing your own thing.

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 11 місяців тому +3

      He's not copying anyone. He made a commentary video about Arena. That's all.