As a collector who did cancel, I don’t think it’s extreme to want a better likeness and also not support a lazy company. This was a step back regardless of improvements. I would pay more for more accuracy
So glad I kept my DX 09 Do really prefer my DX09. 2.0 offers really good improvements but it unfortunately doesn't look LIKE Michael KEATON's Batman as DX09 does. Will keep them both but 2.0 will go inside my JAZZINC BATMOBILE 😅 Thank you very much for this highly detailed vidéo ♥️
My thoughts on it is if you already own a DX09 you have an option to buy the 2.0 version. For someone who's an 89 Batman fan and don't own the DX09, this is a great opportunity to own one.
The texturing doesn't really bother me that much, though I think it might be a production flaw they are just trying to push through. The 2.0 is brilliant.......but how could they screw up the likeness in the faceplate when they already had it???
After finally receiving this figure. The textured suit isnt a problem at all, looks good in person. The biggest issue are the cheeks on the cowl. They are not as pointed/sharp like the DX09 and in the movie. The 2.0 cheeks are too curved and rounded, make his face look too narrow and throws off the Keaton likeness.
Anything from hot toys that is Michael Keaton Batman I am always going to buy! Keaton is the best to ever play Batman imo. This figure imo is a home run! Although my DX09 is my grail. Great comparison video! Well done!
It is a shame what Hot Toys did with the 2.0 and that a 12 years older figure Looks more accurate than the new one. The suit looks like a cheaper version from the DX09 and the face plates Looks not like Michael Keaton
Sometimes the original artists are either better at their job, or they struck gold with their first effort. Recency doesn't always guarantee superiority. While there have been advances with the paint apps, material quality, better bodies... when it comes to the portrait, it's the talent of the artist, and the time/money Hot Toys assign to the project which matters the most. The recent Batman Begins 2.0 was clearly given little priority, zero, whereas this - along with the TDKR Catwoman 2.0 - is just above midway on the scale. Bane 2.0 and the 2.0 armoured Batman are at the high-end.
As much as I like the upgrades in the 2.0 but that DX09 is definitely more accurate in the movie in terms of the texture of the suit. As a collector who don't have the DX09, I think its still better to have the 2.0 than nothing. Awesome comparison video, very detailed.
I can handle the belt being the wrong colour, excess suit texturing, upper lip area on the face plates are too much; but the thing that gets me the most are the pecs. They should be a lot more visible, but HT made them even less so with the emblem coming down right at the bottom of 'em. Like the new ones torso was designed to be more barrel chested, instead of the pecs resting much lower on the body. Such odd decisions that we'll never know exactly why they chose to not be as movie accurate as a could've. My only theory is they had a far more accurate version, but WB shot it down. It's definitely not uncommon for the license holders to opt for a more inaccurate look...for whatever illogical reasons.
I don't own the DX09 but I have some friends that do. Naturally this 2.0 was an easy decision for me. I have looked at a ton of comparison videos. This is one of the best. While the mouth piece on the DX09 might appear be more accurate I have to wonder if it's true or because it's more of a caricature of Keaton being more pronounced. I kind of feel it might be the latter. I think the new mask looks better IMO. The DX09 look fantastic but again, it looks more pronounced like a caricature than what I think it actually looked like on screen. Just my thoughts but I would be happy to own either.
Every time I look at a comparison, the old one looks like it should be the new one, better sculpt & body texture, better likeness to Keaton. The only better thing with the new one is the cape and the base. The old one actually looks alive, the new one dead.
You really can't tell the 2.0 isn't that accurate until you put it next to the DXO9. Side by side makes me appreciate the OG. I'll skip the 2.0 and go to the upgraded bat suit from the Flash movie.
Thank you for this very high class comparison. It was extremely hard decision for me as a huge Batman fan but I decided to cancel my pre-order and keep my awesome DX09. There are no enough reasons to spend like 350-400 dollars more. New figure looks very cool with its inaccuracy also, though. I think InArt may try to make this figure also in some point. I'll keep that in mind too.
Hey, really dig your username. The direct reference to the movie Mr. Mom is a nice serendipitous thing with this being a Keaton video. I'm a dad to a daughter too. She unfortunately no longer lives here, but whenever she'd come over and see my collection, it's like seeing it all for the first time again. Like that sense of awe and wonder regarding how much crap I have. Been a while since she's been to the house, so I'm sure with her being 9 now, she wouldn't be as impressed lol. It's a 9 goin' on 18 kinda thing. At least she still gets excited when I pick her up actual toys. You know, something other than Roblox "Robux" (in-game currency that costs actual money).
I have the 2.0 coming. I’m so happy they released this because I’ve always wanted it. It is the Batman that brought me to be a true fan of Batman. I was 15 when this movie came out and it was epic! Reeves and Keaton…keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for putting out this top-notch video! When I got my 'about to ship' notification last week, I started watching reviews, and everyone was slamming the figure. Sent me in a tizzy with debating on canceling it. Very glad I didn't with coming across your extremely in-depth and rational viewpoints review. Even though I was gonna go with the bloody face anyways, it's nice to know it captures the likeness the best. The heavy texturing route is very bizarre, but it still captures the essence of that early design suite. Now I'm just debating on rather or not to order another Jaxon cape. I have the non-wired one for my Returns Bats, so perhaps I'll get the wired one. This stock one is absolutely an upgrade over the original, but it does look a little short. Maybe I'll just save some money and use the more leathery looking stock Returns cape.
One more spam comment before I dip out: Just wanted to mention that I always thought the original '89 head had a pretty small face. Everything just looks a little too squished in...so a big forehead/cranium area, a Robin Williams amount of space between the nose and upper lip; that sort of thing. Definitely pros and cons to each, and since (for reasons unknown - maybe the aforementioned thought on the head 🤷🏼♂️) I passed on the original, I'm glad I now have an '89 Bats representation in my collection. I thought havin' the Returns version would be enough, but _naaaah._
LOL people in the collecting community working overtime to retain Their value on the decade+old figure. This is not bad by any means, the difference is tiny. This is perfect for those that missed the first and don't want to spend the 1k+ it always goes for, with flaking material. Don't let these people fool you, on a shelf you aren't going to notice his chin and lips, ridiculous
Looking at original photos. The color of his lips matches the old one but the new one seems more proportional like the movie. Old one seems kind of short
Great comparison video. At the end of the day we got another brand new '89 Keaton Batman!!! 😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯 Think about the figures we got after the movie was released. Those Kenner toys. 😂😂 I am a die-hard 89 fan since I was 9 years old. I love this new figure and I can't wait to get my hands on it. And he's going to stand right next to my DX09
Another detail that I noticed in the sculpting of the eyes is that they look bigger and more protruding and that doesn't help much. They need to be more closed and even darker like the dx09… whatever thanks for the video bro
I noticed that as well in the previous video and suspected the eyes needed to be more deep set. If you look at the comparison at 9:49, you'll see how far the nose and brows jut out of the real-life cowl vs the two figures' cowls. The angle is not perfect as you can see by the ears on Keaton's cowl that he is turned slightly to the right, but you get the idea. While we're on the subject, notice Keaton's chin & jaw structure is too recessed on both figures.
The protruding eyes is my main beef with this figure. They also look too wide open, as if he's sat on something nasty. The DX09 has a heavier looking brow which makes the eyes look deeper set and more intimidating. And while the eyes look more realistic on the 2.0, Hot Toys really messed up on the colour of them, making them a brilliant blue when Keaton's eyes are a striking blue-gray.
It’s a tough call because both are slightly off. I agree with the eyes, but if you set them further in, it messes with the side profile like the 09. I’ve even seen statues for this guy that are slightly off in terms of likeness 😂 Both are really nice pieces in their own ways though.
Your comparison video seems to confirm what a lot of us saw in the new official pics. But not only do we have a bad likeness and an inaccurate texture on the suit, but the figure is thicker as well. Michael Keaton is a very small guy. There is no reason to make the body thicker and wider. I love that they gave us a version 2.0 of the 1989 Batman. It has a few slight improvements over the DX09, but the new figure fails where it counts. The DX09, while not perfect, looks much more like the Michael Keaton Batman we saw on screen. I hate saying it. I hate making negative comments. I've been counting the days for like 2 years for this figure to come out. I would love to come on here and rave about how amazing this figure is. I can't do that. It simply isn't true.
Yeah, this figure, particularly the face, the over-textured body looks no way as close to Keaton's face and costume, respectively. DX09 is far better imho. I recall first seeing the 2.0 and my gaze immediately zoomed in on the body because the texture was so off from what is seen in the movie. It could be argued that the 2.0 faceplates look more like an older Keaton as opposed to his more youthful look in the 89 Batman movie and what I believe is faithfully reflected in the DX09 faceplates.
I am fine with his likeness! Almost no toy company making any accurate figures at all....even when you go into high-class collectibles...look at prime one or other Statue companies...and why is it...because the Money flow would stop if they considering a fully accurate sculpt...so all of these So called collectible companies would go bankrupt😂😂😂 they can't affort a accurate one because everyone would buy it and would be good with it so no need to put out more! That's their game...another example is the "new Jungle Hunter Predator" he literally a shite copy of the Classic Predator...HT was so lazy...they didn't even change the Accessoires nor the sculpt or body...putting only a sign on it new Jungle Hunter and most of the fanbase is pissed about it...rightfully so...calling themselfs a highend collectible only to change minor shite...this not working in long runs! And also how many shite ironmans we got??? They literally milking us...!!!! Anyways i wish you a nice weekend! That's only My Opinion!
Great review, I don't have the DX09 so the decision is easy for me. I have the Batman Returns Keaton HT figure so I may put this one next to my Batmobile!
For me DX09 is the winner, it is more accurate to Michael Keaton. I have canceld My preorder and bought a DX09 on the secondary market for a good Deal. It is a shame, what Hot toys did with the V2.0 and that a 12 years older figure Looks more accurat. The suit on the V2 Looks like a cheaper version of the DX09. I have the feeling that hot toys used to put more effort in the past into the head sculps
Nowadays they only go above and beyond on head sculpts when they’re trying to directly compete with another company like Inart. Hot Toys doing everything they can to make their new joker look better than InArt but something like this- InArt said they’re not interested in doing so HT doesn’t have to go above and beyond unfortunately
I too bought the DX09 in the secondary market and for a good price too. It was still brand spanking new. The cape wasn't even taken out of its plastic covering.
What's so bizarre is that with all the other reviews I've seen (like Justin's Collection), the 2.0 is taller; something I'm definitely not a fan of. But now watching your review, it's the exact opposite with the new one being a little shorter. So confused on what's going on here lol. Did they end up with taller bodied versions, or you with a shorter one? It doesn't look like it's to do with angle/perspective trickery, so I'm really bewildered with the 2.0 height variation.
They have to be better than this on a 2.0 - I had to cancelled my order on this one. Money is getting harder to come by, especially on a subpar figure release. A figure that is 10 years old should not beat a 2.0 but DX09 wins this argument hands down.
A really thorough, detailed comparison video - thank you! You have left no doubt on the differences between the two. Natural light is always such a good way to show what the figure is really like in hand. Personally, I prefer the 2.0 and have it on pre-order. Can’t wait to get it. I really can’t understand people being so hyper critical about the new version - it still looks awesome!!
All these companies have production stills, behind the scenes and these great test pics to work from and they still can't get sculpts right. That profile of Keatons face is perfect for creating a acurate face sculpt.
Honestly now is a great time for HT….hear me out, with MARVEL’s lack of MCU based blockbusters….not including DEADPOOL 3, HT has time to catch up on figures that have been delayed for so long….so this BATMAN can be on the pipeline
Man, what a great comparison video. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I look forward to you showcasing these figures with the Batmobile. Sidenote, is there a moduspace case you’re looking at that would fit the Batmobile and deluxe Batman with statue? Thanks
Excellent job, and a very useful reference point. The side profile breakdown @10:15 illustrates your point to a T, both figures have clear flaws when it comes to accuracy. The aspect which captures my attention the most is the depth of the eyes. If you measure the gap from the eyes to the bridge, you can see that the 2.0's are too far forward. The real-life photo shows Keaton's eyes being seated almost 50% more further back.
Can some '89 Batman expert kindly explain to me how this gold or copper utility belt was screen used??? I just simply don't believe it... Now I understand lighting & editing on film but there's no way that gold belt could look as yellow as it did on film no matter what editing was done. Ever since this 'so-called' screen used gold utility belt prop was made known, it has now infiltrated into the world of toys & statues with Prime 1 using gold as the color of their belt for the first time I can recall in toy form. The fact is, if the gold belt is in fact screen used then it looks nothing like what we saw on film & therefore does not look accurate. The gold belt stands out like a sore thumb on the Prime 1 statue & I'm sure if Hot Toys made their belt gold then the majority of fans would be very unhappy.
I'm not an expert or anything, but if I had to take a guess as to why they used that copper belt would be for when he's in the shadows. My guess is they don't want people seeing a bright yellow belt, so they used a darker color to still be able to see the belt without taking away from a dark scene 🤷♂️ Edit: you can see the copper belt was used throughout the whole bell tower scene at the end of the movie 👍🏻
You knocked this one out of the park Ryan! So I’m going to put my conspiracy hat on for a min. I also remember Hot toys touting the shorter “more accurate “ Keaton body but I don’t think that is it at all, I think they were gonna do a 2.0 anyway might as well make it scale better with the pre-existing batmobile that they had no intentions of re-engineering. I don’t know if you were gonna put the 2.0 inside the Batmobile but I would love to know if he fits better than the DX09…
Great review......... I have both versions of batman and the batmobiles. F.y.i my new batmobile has issues with the lights. Hopefully sideshow can give a compensation cause I really don't feel like sending it back Each batman and batmobile has elements that are better. But my pick overall are Batman dx09 Batmobile new version. I have them both displayed one with and without the shield on vehicle. I hope pre orders open up for the batman returns soon.
The suit is way too textured, sculpts are not great, figure is too big. Dx09 still wins. Belts on both are inaccurate. The belt should be a golden yellow and the emblem a canary yellow. Funny thing is, look at the prototype figure hot toys made. It's very good. Idk if they changed it so we don't get a great figure for whatever reason, but it's nonsense.
I get Batman Begins vibes from the 2.0 as the nose lines descend to a point instead of more horizontal under the nose. The eye holes and cheekbones also don’t look like they should. I appreciate the time and detail you put into this.
That's funny because I'm getting Batman Begins vibes from DX09 in the side profile. The neutral face plate on the 2.0 however is giving me Christian Bale vibes.
Great job! I've very much enjoyed your coverage of this figure, and talking points. As a 2.0 I would score this a 7/10. For someone who's not overly fussed about the likeness or overall accuracy, and just wants a great 89' Batman figure, I'd probably give it 10/10, especially if you factor in the diorama. Sometimes the original artists are either better at their job, or they struck gold with their first effort. Recency doesn't always guarantee superiority. While there have been advances with the paint apps, material quality, better bodies... when it comes to the portrait, and overall accuracy, it's the talent of the artists, and the time/money Hot Toys assign to the project which matters the most. The recent Batman Begins 2.0 was clearly given little priority, zero, whereas this - along with the TDKR Catwoman 2.0 - is just above midway on the scale. Bane 2.0 and the 2.0 armoured Batman look to be at the high-end.
Much like with the newest TDK Batman figures Hot Toys is doing, this feels like a step backwards from the DX09. I don’t think Hot Toys will ever top the DX09 and the DX19 at this point. There is such a thing as focusing too hard on something and actually skewing the accuracy of it and that’s what Hot Toy has done here and with the most recent TDK Batman figures.
Great comparison video. My sideshow waitlist just converted for this figure but I’m so on the fence after seeing how the 2.0 was released. I really doubt Hot Toys would release a “3.0 89 Batman” so this may have to do since I never picked up the dx09
The more I see of the details of the comparisons the more I reaffirm my thought that the DX 09 has the best mold of the face, it captured the essence of Keaton's lips and eyes better... it's a shame that the latest version instead of improving the mold makes it worse... I don't care about the other aspects of the body or the cape... the most important part that a figure has to have is the detail and realism of the face, it's that simple and if you don't understand it or you settle for the second version that's your business, the rest of us are more demanding. Anyway, the video is quite useful to see the obvious... MANY differences.
I’d argue neither representation is 100% accurate. The DX 09 looks great from the nose down, but the face as a whole looks a bit misshapen, and the eyes a bit too much to the center. There’s enough to like about either one and if you own the original, then you don’t have to worry about the value plummeting. If you’ve never had the opportunity to own the original, well then, here’s 2.0.
When you have the 2.0 looking to the left or right with the bloodied face plate, that's when I really see Keaton. That's how I will display mine. I can see people customising this figure, roughing up the cape and suit for a great battle damaged look.
I agree on the new figure. The bloody face plate is probably the closest resemblance. We have to Michael Keaton. When more people get this figure in hand I do see more customizing happening either with paint applications or alternate sculpts for sure.
Outstanding video as always and comparison! I really like the a section on the DX-09. Absolutely impressive how well the original has held up, wow. 2.0 eyes are definitely better in my opinion.
What reveals EVERYTHING for me is your side by side comparison of all the cowls. You focus on the shape of the cowl but what stands out for me is how close the 2.0's eyes are to the nose. The DX-09 eyes are set WAY BACK from the nose as is the OFFICIAL Keaton cowl pic you used. This for me reveals why the 2.0 inaccuracy is DAMNING cos Keaton's eyes are mostly in the shadow of the cowl in the film due to their deep setting & this is not portrayed in the new 2.0. COWL CASE FINALLY CLOSED.
Unreal Customs has made a replacement head sculpt - cowl, faceplate and with moveable eyes. From what I've seen though, I don't think it looks any better than this 2.0.
@dangiambrone7350 the cowl is perfect and the eyes are fine. I won't pay for that. I just want faceplates. I'm sure they will come. Unless Inart makes an 89 Batman, this will become the new hit custom mod.
I've seen so many video reviews of the V2 and all show how bad the faceplates really are in different lighting. But your thumbnail sure made it look good. But your video showed the belt cylinders are not spaced symetrically and are a bit oversized, they jut out too much. Your side profile comparison also showed that the V2 and DX09 have weak chins, it's pushed inward. After seeing that I now see the problems with Hot Toys' sculpt and really excited to sculpt my own face plate after I get my pre-ordered regular edition figure.
I can't wait!!! A funfact Mezco also did the texture on the suit! So i really don't know if it's accurate or not because some shots of the Movie got him textured and some not! So it looks like he had not just one suit for the movie! One was more textured as the other!
I just watched this movie again last night with this figure in mind. It's clearly smooth. The best scene to see it too is after the art museum scene in the alley, where he gets shot. When he gets shot and falls to the ground, the thugs inspect him and see he's wearing (smooth) armor. I mean, there are many other scenes showing it off this way. Not sure why HTs would choose a rare scene to represent the character like this 🤦♂️🤷♂️
2.0 is to textured. The DX is more better. Mouth looks nothing like Keaton. Looks way wrong nothing like Keaton's mouth and lips. From the side look. Front 2.0 looks like Keaton but from side not. Lips on 2.0 OK! Bat emblem 2.0 well done. The side look is so wrong on the top of the lip. You don't notice it from the front. Like to take and change belt color on both of mine to the more gold looking. The texture is too much on the 2.0. The DX is more spot on. The real cape had a more bat wing texture had like what a bat looks like. Like to have seen a seamless cape on this and the Robert Pattenson figures. OSK has one to order for Pattenson Batman and it drapes great I bought 2 one for HT and one for Inart.
The controversy indicates that the most important thing for a collector is that the sculpt for a new figure had to be infinitely superior than dx09 or equal to it.. THAT IS THE PROBLEM OF THIS FIGURE
@@mr.momcollectibles Ive been in this hobby since 2014, mostly custom scene, but i always circle back to mass produced & you really bring back the excitement of the mavericks in this hobby.
Just wondering why you never showed the open mouth plates in this or the last vid? Like comparison wise I mean. I think they NAILED the Keaton look on those. It's the lips on the museum pose blank face that affects his likeness which is something that's way better on the other 2 plates.
This is my Ɓatman and have the DX09 and it's more accurate to screen use, in some cases aspects of the figure, some preffer accuracy over everything else, but mix and match the two figures and you have the right balance. Dx body and the 2.0 cowl and belt with a custom cape, and I guess you get the best kitbash. I'm ecxited to get this 2.0 and will act like the kid I was when I saw the film back it the theaters in '89.🦇🦇🍻
As a collector who did cancel, I don’t think it’s extreme to want a better likeness and also not support a lazy company. This was a step back regardless of improvements. I would pay more for more accuracy
So glad I kept my DX 09
Do really prefer my DX09.
2.0 offers really good improvements but it unfortunately doesn't look LIKE Michael KEATON's Batman as DX09 does.
Will keep them both but 2.0 will go inside my JAZZINC BATMOBILE 😅
Thank you very much for this highly detailed vidéo ♥️
My thoughts on it is if you already own a DX09 you have an option to buy the 2.0 version.
For someone who's an 89 Batman fan and don't own the DX09, this is a great opportunity to own one.
The texturing doesn't really bother me that much, though I think it might be a production flaw they are just trying to push through. The 2.0 is brilliant.......but how could they screw up the likeness in the faceplate when they already had it???
@@zenheat the new one with the blood is decent, but the old ones look way more like Keaton. Especially the lips.
After finally receiving this figure. The textured suit isnt a problem at all, looks good in person. The biggest issue are the cheeks on the cowl. They are not as pointed/sharp like the DX09 and in the movie. The 2.0 cheeks are too curved and rounded, make his face look too narrow and throws off the Keaton likeness.
Anything from hot toys that is Michael Keaton Batman I am always going to buy! Keaton is the best to ever play Batman imo. This figure imo is a home run! Although my DX09 is my grail. Great comparison video! Well done!
Im so confused why the new one is not as accurate and doesn’t look like Keaton like the older one. Very disappointed
It is a shame what Hot Toys did with the 2.0 and that a 12 years older figure Looks more accurate than the new one. The suit looks like a cheaper version from the DX09 and the face plates Looks not like Michael Keaton
Sometimes the original artists are either better at their job, or they struck gold with their first effort. Recency doesn't always guarantee superiority. While there have been advances with the paint apps, material quality, better bodies... when it comes to the portrait, it's the talent of the artist, and the time/money Hot Toys assign to the project which matters the most. The recent Batman Begins 2.0 was clearly given little priority, zero, whereas this - along with the TDKR Catwoman 2.0 - is just above midway on the scale. Bane 2.0 and the 2.0 armoured Batman are at the high-end.
As much as I like the upgrades in the 2.0 but that DX09 is definitely more accurate in the movie in terms of the texture of the suit. As a collector who don't have the DX09, I think its still better to have the 2.0 than nothing.
Awesome comparison video, very detailed.
Thank you so much!
@@mr.momcollectibles My pleasure. 🙏🏻
I can handle the belt being the wrong colour, excess suit texturing, upper lip area on the face plates are too much; but the thing that gets me the most are the pecs. They should be a lot more visible, but HT made them even less so with the emblem coming down right at the bottom of 'em. Like the new ones torso was designed to be more barrel chested, instead of the pecs resting much lower on the body.
Such odd decisions that we'll never know exactly why they chose to not be as movie accurate as a could've. My only theory is they had a far more accurate version, but WB shot it down. It's definitely not uncommon for the license holders to opt for a more inaccurate look...for whatever illogical reasons.
I don't own the DX09 but I have some friends that do. Naturally this 2.0 was an easy decision for me. I have looked at a ton of comparison videos. This is one of the best. While the mouth piece on the DX09 might appear be more accurate I have to wonder if it's true or because it's more of a caricature of Keaton being more pronounced. I kind of feel it might be the latter. I think the new mask looks better IMO. The DX09 look fantastic but again, it looks more pronounced like a caricature than what I think it actually looked like on screen. Just my thoughts but I would be happy to own either.
Every time I look at a comparison, the old one looks like it should be the new one, better sculpt & body texture, better likeness to Keaton.
The only better thing with the new one is the cape and the base. The old one actually looks alive, the new one dead.
You really can't tell the 2.0 isn't that accurate until you put it next to the DXO9. Side by side makes me appreciate the OG. I'll skip the 2.0 and go to the upgraded bat suit from the Flash movie.
Thank you for this very high class comparison. It was extremely hard decision for me as a huge Batman fan but I decided to cancel my pre-order and keep my awesome DX09. There are no enough reasons to spend like 350-400 dollars more. New figure looks very cool with its inaccuracy also, though. I think InArt may try to make this figure also in some point. I'll keep that in mind too.
Thanks so much! Means a lot
Thank you so much
Well done video my man … and I’m only half way through it .. . again really good job 👍🏿
Hey, really dig your username. The direct reference to the movie Mr. Mom is a nice serendipitous thing with this being a Keaton video. I'm a dad to a daughter too. She unfortunately no longer lives here, but whenever she'd come over and see my collection, it's like seeing it all for the first time again. Like that sense of awe and wonder regarding how much crap I have.
Been a while since she's been to the house, so I'm sure with her being 9 now, she wouldn't be as impressed lol. It's a 9 goin' on 18 kinda thing. At least she still gets excited when I pick her up actual toys. You know, something other than Roblox "Robux" (in-game currency that costs actual money).
I have the 2.0 coming. I’m so happy they released this because I’ve always wanted it. It is the Batman that brought me to be a true fan of Batman. I was 15 when this movie came out and it was epic! Reeves and Keaton…keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for putting out this top-notch video! When I got my 'about to ship' notification last week, I started watching reviews, and everyone was slamming the figure. Sent me in a tizzy with debating on canceling it. Very glad I didn't with coming across your extremely in-depth and rational viewpoints review. Even though I was gonna go with the bloody face anyways, it's nice to know it captures the likeness the best. The heavy texturing route is very bizarre, but it still captures the essence of that early design suite.
Now I'm just debating on rather or not to order another Jaxon cape. I have the non-wired one for my Returns Bats, so perhaps I'll get the wired one. This stock one is absolutely an upgrade over the original, but it does look a little short. Maybe I'll just save some money and use the more leathery looking stock Returns cape.
One more spam comment before I dip out: Just wanted to mention that I always thought the original '89 head had a pretty small face. Everything just looks a little too squished in...so a big forehead/cranium area, a Robin Williams amount of space between the nose and upper lip; that sort of thing.
Definitely pros and cons to each, and since (for reasons unknown - maybe the aforementioned thought on the head 🤷🏼♂️) I passed on the original, I'm glad I now have an '89 Bats representation in my collection. I thought havin' the Returns version would be enough, but _naaaah._
LOL people in the collecting community working overtime to retain Their value on the decade+old figure. This is not bad by any means, the difference is tiny. This is perfect for those that missed the first and don't want to spend the 1k+ it always goes for, with flaking material. Don't let these people fool you, on a shelf you aren't going to notice his chin and lips, ridiculous
Looking at original photos. The color of his lips matches the old one but the new one seems more proportional like the movie. Old one seems kind of short
Great comparison video. At the end of the day we got another brand new '89 Keaton Batman!!! 😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯 Think about the figures we got after the movie was released. Those Kenner toys. 😂😂 I am a die-hard 89 fan since I was 9 years old. I love this new figure and I can't wait to get my hands on it. And he's going to stand right next to my DX09
Thank you so much!
Wow that natural light really popped the figures 😮
It will be my new way of reviewing figures moving forward
Another detail that I noticed in the sculpting of the eyes is that they look bigger and more protruding and that doesn't help much. They need to be more closed and even darker like the dx09… whatever thanks for the video bro
I noticed that as well in the previous video and suspected the eyes needed to be more deep set. If you look at the comparison at 9:49, you'll see how far the nose and brows jut out of the real-life cowl vs the two figures' cowls. The angle is not perfect as you can see by the ears on Keaton's cowl that he is turned slightly to the right, but you get the idea. While we're on the subject, notice Keaton's chin & jaw structure is too recessed on both figures.
The protruding eyes is my main beef with this figure. They also look too wide open, as if he's sat on something nasty. The DX09 has a heavier looking brow which makes the eyes look deeper set and more intimidating. And while the eyes look more realistic on the 2.0, Hot Toys really messed up on the colour of them, making them a brilliant blue when Keaton's eyes are a striking blue-gray.
It’s a tough call because both are slightly off. I agree with the eyes, but if you set them further in, it messes with the side profile like the 09. I’ve even seen statues for this guy that are slightly off in terms of likeness 😂 Both are really nice pieces in their own ways though.
Your comparison video seems to confirm what a lot of us saw in the new official pics. But not only do we have a bad likeness and an inaccurate texture on the suit, but the figure is thicker as well. Michael Keaton is a very small guy. There is no reason to make the body thicker and wider. I love that they gave us a version 2.0 of the 1989 Batman. It has a few slight improvements over the DX09, but the new figure fails where it counts. The DX09, while not perfect, looks much more like the Michael Keaton Batman we saw on screen. I hate saying it. I hate making negative comments. I've been counting the days for like 2 years for this figure to come out. I would love to come on here and rave about how amazing this figure is. I can't do that. It simply isn't true.
Yeah, this figure, particularly the face, the over-textured body looks no way as close to Keaton's face and costume, respectively. DX09 is far better imho.
I recall first seeing the 2.0 and my gaze immediately zoomed in on the body because the texture was so off from what is seen in the movie. It could be argued that the 2.0 faceplates look more like an older Keaton as opposed to his more youthful look in the 89 Batman movie and what I believe is faithfully reflected in the DX09 faceplates.
💯 agree same. Not a negative comment at all, just our observations from Batman Fans.
I am fine with his likeness! Almost no toy company making any accurate figures at all....even when you go into high-class collectibles...look at prime one or other Statue companies...and why is it...because the Money flow would stop if they considering a fully accurate sculpt...so all of these So called collectible companies would go bankrupt😂😂😂 they can't affort a accurate one because everyone would buy it and would be good with it so no need to put out more! That's their game...another example is the "new Jungle Hunter Predator" he literally a shite copy of the Classic Predator...HT was so lazy...they didn't even change the Accessoires nor the sculpt or body...putting only a sign on it new Jungle Hunter and most of the fanbase is pissed about it...rightfully so...calling themselfs a highend collectible only to change minor shite...this not working in long runs! And also how many shite ironmans we got??? They literally milking us...!!!! Anyways i wish you a nice weekend! That's only My Opinion!
@@zenheat rightfully so art is subjective 😂
Amen. I still love my DX09. NOT HATING Just don't think it looks like him. DX09 looks better to me imo.
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Great review, I don't have the DX09 so the decision is easy for me. I have the Batman Returns Keaton HT figure so I may put this one next to my Batmobile!
For me DX09 is the winner, it is more accurate to Michael Keaton. I have canceld My preorder and bought a DX09 on the secondary market for a good Deal.
It is a shame, what Hot toys did with the V2.0 and that a 12 years older figure Looks more accurat. The suit on the V2 Looks like a cheaper version of the DX09.
I have the feeling that hot toys used to put more effort in the past into the head sculps
Nowadays they only go above and beyond on head sculpts when they’re trying to directly compete with another company like Inart. Hot Toys doing everything they can to make their new joker look better than InArt but something like this- InArt said they’re not interested in doing so HT doesn’t have to go above and beyond unfortunately
I too bought the DX09 in the secondary market and for a good price too. It was still brand spanking new. The cape wasn't even taken out of its plastic covering.
@@1515cciand with a custom cape it looks realy better
@@Filmfiguren_Review I already have a custom wired cape from OT Customs and I should have a custom drape cape by LAB Toys tomorrow.
Yeah, i think the side profile on the 2 is better, but the dx has a better front profile
Not sure why they changed the texture of the suit where the DX didnt. I DID NOT CANCEL mine since I'm a batman fan.
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What's so bizarre is that with all the other reviews I've seen (like Justin's Collection), the 2.0 is taller; something I'm definitely not a fan of. But now watching your review, it's the exact opposite with the new one being a little shorter. So confused on what's going on here lol. Did they end up with taller bodied versions, or you with a shorter one? It doesn't look like it's to do with angle/perspective trickery, so I'm really bewildered with the 2.0 height variation.
For me DX09 wins, it is more accurate to Michael Keaton. That's the most important part.
That’s 💯 fair!
They have to be better than this on a 2.0 - I had to cancelled my order on this one. Money is getting harder to come by, especially on a subpar figure release. A figure that is 10 years old should not beat a 2.0 but DX09 wins this argument hands down.
A really thorough, detailed comparison video - thank you! You have left no doubt on the differences between the two. Natural light is always such a good way to show what the figure is really like in hand. Personally, I prefer the 2.0 and have it on pre-order. Can’t wait to get it. I really can’t understand people being so hyper critical about the new version - it still looks awesome!!
....for me it's because the 2.0 faceplates look nowhere near that of Keaton in the movie and that over-textured body.
All these companies have production stills, behind the scenes and these great test pics to work from and they still can't get sculpts right. That profile of Keatons face is perfect for creating a acurate face sculpt.
Honestly now is a great time for HT….hear me out, with MARVEL’s lack of MCU based blockbusters….not including DEADPOOL 3, HT has time to catch up on figures that have been delayed for so long….so this BATMAN can be on the pipeline
Makes sense to me
Man, what a great comparison video. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I look forward to you showcasing these figures with the Batmobile.
Sidenote, is there a moduspace case you’re looking at that would fit the Batmobile and deluxe Batman with statue?
Thanks
Not sure if it'll fit with the statue but both the car and figure will fit in a DF120.
I ordered a DF120 for these two items.
Thank you so much! I got a Moducase DF120 I plan to display the cars in
Excellent job, and a very useful reference point. The side profile breakdown @10:15 illustrates your point to a T, both figures have clear flaws when it comes to accuracy. The aspect which captures my attention the most is the depth of the eyes. If you measure the gap from the eyes to the bridge, you can see that the 2.0's are too far forward. The real-life photo shows Keaton's eyes being seated almost 50% more further back.
Can some '89 Batman expert kindly explain to me how this gold or copper utility belt was screen used???
I just simply don't believe it... Now I understand lighting & editing on film but there's no way that gold belt could look as yellow as it did on film no matter what editing was done. Ever since this 'so-called' screen used gold utility belt prop was made known, it has now infiltrated into the world of toys & statues with Prime 1 using gold as the color of their belt for the first time I can recall in toy form. The fact is, if the gold belt is in fact screen used then it looks nothing like what we saw on film & therefore does not look accurate. The gold belt stands out like a sore thumb on the Prime 1 statue & I'm sure if Hot Toys made their belt gold then the majority of fans would be very unhappy.
I'm not an expert or anything, but if I had to take a guess as to why they used that copper belt would be for when he's in the shadows. My guess is they don't want people seeing a bright yellow belt, so they used a darker color to still be able to see the belt without taking away from a dark scene 🤷♂️
Edit: you can see the copper belt was used throughout the whole bell tower scene at the end of the movie 👍🏻
Thank you for putting all the work into these comparisons! Interesting to see the differences :)
Thank you so much!
You knocked this one out of the park Ryan! So I’m going to put my conspiracy hat on for a min. I also remember Hot toys touting the shorter “more accurate “ Keaton body but I don’t think that is it at all, I think they were gonna do a 2.0 anyway might as well make it scale better with the pre-existing batmobile that they had no intentions of re-engineering. I don’t know if you were gonna put the 2.0 inside the Batmobile but I would love to know if he fits better than the DX09…
Thank you for actually comparing it with references. Very objective review. 👍👍👍👍
Thank you so much!
Great review.........
I have both versions of batman and the batmobiles. F.y.i my new batmobile has issues with the lights. Hopefully sideshow can give a compensation cause I really don't feel like sending it back
Each batman and batmobile has elements that are better. But my pick overall are
Batman dx09
Batmobile new version.
I have them both displayed one with and without the shield on vehicle.
I hope pre orders open up for the batman returns soon.
Thank you so much!
The suit is way too textured, sculpts are not great, figure is too big. Dx09 still wins. Belts on both are inaccurate. The belt should be a golden yellow and the emblem a canary yellow.
Funny thing is, look at the prototype figure hot toys made. It's very good. Idk if they changed it so we don't get a great figure for whatever reason, but it's nonsense.
These 89 Batmen are just like the Hot Toys Back to the Future Marty McFly. Both kinda look like Michael J. Fox, but neither one nails it. It's a draw.
Yup I can see that almost like something in the middle of these would be the best
Great comparison. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Not a problem another passion project
very detailed video, I really want a Keaton Batman in my collection. I just don't know which one, the 2.0 or 1.0.
Thank you for the complientn
I get Batman Begins vibes from the 2.0 as the nose lines descend to a point instead of more horizontal under the nose. The eye holes and cheekbones also don’t look like they should. I appreciate the time and detail you put into this.
Thank you much for the comment! Really appreciate it!
That's funny because I'm getting Batman Begins vibes from DX09 in the side profile. The neutral face plate on the 2.0 however is giving me Christian Bale vibes.
Great job! I've very much enjoyed your coverage of this figure, and talking points. As a 2.0 I would score this a 7/10. For someone who's not overly fussed about the likeness or overall accuracy, and just wants a great 89' Batman figure, I'd probably give it 10/10, especially if you factor in the diorama.
Sometimes the original artists are either better at their job, or they struck gold with their first effort. Recency doesn't always guarantee superiority. While there have been advances with the paint apps, material quality, better bodies... when it comes to the portrait, and overall accuracy, it's the talent of the artists, and the time/money Hot Toys assign to the project which matters the most. The recent Batman Begins 2.0 was clearly given little priority, zero, whereas this - along with the TDKR Catwoman 2.0 - is just above midway on the scale. Bane 2.0 and the 2.0 armoured Batman look to be at the high-end.
Fantastic comment thank you so much for your feedback
That side look is so upsetting. Too puffy on top of lip. Should be curved out to top lip from mask not puffy.
1.0 looks way better
Great 👍 comparison 🎉 My preference is the DX09, but with some customization and upgrades
Much like with the newest TDK Batman figures Hot Toys is doing, this feels like a step backwards from the DX09. I don’t think Hot Toys will ever top the DX09 and the DX19 at this point.
There is such a thing as focusing too hard on something and actually skewing the accuracy of it and that’s what Hot Toy has done here and with the most recent TDK Batman figures.
Great comparison video. My sideshow waitlist just converted for this figure but I’m so on the fence after seeing how the 2.0 was released. I really doubt Hot Toys would release a “3.0 89 Batman” so this may have to do since I never picked up the dx09
The more I see of the details of the comparisons the more I reaffirm my thought that the DX 09 has the best mold of the face, it captured the essence of Keaton's lips and eyes better... it's a shame that the latest version instead of improving the mold makes it worse...
I don't care about the other aspects of the body or the cape... the most important part that a figure has to have is the detail and realism of the face, it's that simple and if you don't understand it or you settle for the second version that's your business, the rest of us are more demanding.
Anyway, the video is quite useful to see the obvious... MANY differences.
I’d argue neither representation is 100% accurate. The DX 09 looks great from the nose down, but the face as a whole looks a bit misshapen, and the eyes a bit too much to the center. There’s enough to like about either one and if you own the original, then you don’t have to worry about the value plummeting. If you’ve never had the opportunity to own the original, well then, here’s 2.0.
Thank you much for the comment!
When you have the 2.0 looking to the left or right with the bloodied face plate, that's when I really see Keaton. That's how I will display mine. I can see people customising this figure, roughing up the cape and suit for a great battle damaged look.
I agree on the new figure. The bloody face plate is probably the closest resemblance. We have to Michael Keaton. When more people get this figure in hand I do see more customizing happening either with paint applications or alternate sculpts for sure.
Outstanding video as always and comparison! I really like the a section on the DX-09. Absolutely impressive how well the original has held up, wow. 2.0 eyes are definitely better in my opinion.
Thank you so much friend for the support
What reveals EVERYTHING for me is your side by side comparison of all the cowls. You focus on the shape of the cowl but what stands out for me is how close the 2.0's eyes are to the nose. The DX-09 eyes are set WAY BACK from the nose as is the OFFICIAL Keaton cowl pic you used. This for me reveals why the 2.0 inaccuracy is DAMNING cos Keaton's eyes are mostly in the shadow of the cowl in the film due to their deep setting & this is not portrayed in the new 2.0. COWL CASE FINALLY CLOSED.
If you remember the mask was a little large looking on Keaton around the face.
Very cool as a Batman freak I want the best Batman available. I don't need it to be the best likeness for an actor if that makes sense.
Yeah this new one is a pass for me , way to drop the ball hot toys.
Why does a 2012 figure look better?
I don't get the controversy. Some minor issues notwithstanding, the 2.0 looks like a big improvement overall. Can't wait for mine to ship.
@@collectablekessler congrats! You’ll love it
I'm hoping someone comes in with some custom faceplates.
Unreal Customs has made a replacement head sculpt - cowl, faceplate and with moveable eyes. From what I've seen though, I don't think it looks any better than this 2.0.
@dangiambrone7350 the cowl is perfect and the eyes are fine. I won't pay for that. I just want faceplates. I'm sure they will come. Unless Inart makes an 89 Batman, this will become the new hit custom mod.
Unreal customs has it in the works as we speak
I've seen so many video reviews of the V2 and all show how bad the faceplates really are in different lighting. But your thumbnail sure made it look good.
But your video showed the belt cylinders are not spaced symetrically and are a bit oversized, they jut out too much.
Your side profile comparison also showed that the V2 and DX09 have weak chins, it's pushed inward.
After seeing that I now see the problems with Hot Toys' sculpt and really excited to sculpt my own face plate after I get my pre-ordered regular edition figure.
@@eobardthawne5246 are you a sculptor? I’m interested to sync up to see if you can make me one?
Me as well. I would LOVE a new faceplate.
Maybe eventually we'll get one with a proper mixed media suit lol
I can't wait!!! A funfact Mezco also did the texture on the suit! So i really don't know if it's accurate or not because some shots of the Movie got him textured and some not! So it looks like he had not just one suit for the movie! One was more textured as the other!
You’re still going to love this figure in hand!
I just watched this movie again last night with this figure in mind. It's clearly smooth. The best scene to see it too is after the art museum scene in the alley, where he gets shot. When he gets shot and falls to the ground, the thugs inspect him and see he's wearing (smooth) armor. I mean, there are many other scenes showing it off this way. Not sure why HTs would choose a rare scene to represent the character like this 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Is there gonna be a third party that sells a face plate that’s a little more accurate?
Unreal toys is working on one
Awesome looking forward to 2.0
2.0 is to textured. The DX is more better. Mouth looks nothing like Keaton. Looks way wrong nothing like Keaton's mouth and lips. From the side look. Front 2.0 looks like Keaton but from side not. Lips on 2.0 OK! Bat emblem 2.0 well done. The side look is so wrong on the top of the lip. You don't notice it from the front. Like to take and change belt color on both of mine to the more gold looking. The texture is too much on the 2.0. The DX is more spot on. The real cape had a more bat wing texture had like what a bat looks like. Like to have seen a seamless cape on this and the Robert Pattenson figures. OSK has one to order for Pattenson Batman and it drapes great I bought 2 one for HT and one for Inart.
I really don't understand the controversy. The 2.0 still looks amazing.
The controversy indicates that the most important thing for a collector is that the sculpt for a new figure had to be infinitely superior than dx09 or equal to it.. THAT IS THE PROBLEM OF THIS FIGURE
Glad I canceled. Would have been a total waste of money. I already own the better version.
Yeah og wins
So we are never moving the arms at all?
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But I just like DX09❤
thanks for this in depth and interesting comparison. Great video quality, what do you use to record your content?
I’m using a Canon M50 mark 2 to film
@@mr.momcollectibles thank you man.
Yeah natural light helps a lot.👍i like the 2.0 batman..nice comparison..
Natural light is how I’ll be filming many figures moving forward
Great comparison video!
Thank you so much!
You make excellent videos
Wow that’s so nice of you to say! That means more to me than you know!
@@mr.momcollectibles Ive been in this hobby since 2014, mostly custom scene, but i always circle back to mass produced & you really bring back the excitement of the mavericks in this hobby.
Just wondering why you never showed the open mouth plates in this or the last vid? Like comparison wise I mean. I think they NAILED the Keaton look on those. It's the lips on the museum pose blank face that affects his likeness which is something that's way better on the other 2 plates.
Honestly it was an after thought I must say
Great video 👏👏
Thank you so much!
Too much repeating yourself. Sounds like you like hearing yourself.
lol I love myself what can I say
Sadly the new one looks like a downgrade
This is my Ɓatman and have the DX09 and it's more accurate to screen use, in some cases aspects of the figure, some preffer accuracy over everything else, but mix and match the two figures and you have the right balance. Dx body and the 2.0 cowl and belt with a custom cape, and I guess you get the best kitbash. I'm ecxited to get this 2.0 and will act like the kid I was when I saw the film back it the theaters in '89.🦇🦇🍻