You have a good point here regarding the Cornish cross. However, I consider two reasons to not desire a the cornish, and am sure a lot of the hesitation comes from the fact that this bird has sometimes been known to grow so fast and so heavy in the breast as to very unnaturally not be able to support it's own body weight and have its bones break under the weight. Also, they have a reputation for helpless stupidity compared to other birds who are far superior foragers and consume far less feed, but likely don't get as large. Likewise I believe breeding dog breeds which wouldn't be viable in the wild due to an inability to mate without artificial insemination, walk without pain since turned in legs was purposely bred in to reduce tendency to wander, be prone to heart and respiratory problems like some bull dogs and other breeds is wrong since it propagates suffering of a naturally nonviable animal for people's entertainment. Other breeds are more efficient converters of feed to body weight, as Cornish grow large, but also eat a tremendous amount of chicken feed. Surely others also recognize this.
These guy just scared my for life by saying New Hampshire’s are good “chicken pot pie birds”. My neighbor had a New Hampshire and it was Probably the nicest chicken I have ever seen so far in my life!
The biggest problem I have with the cornish X birds that you advocate is the fact that, in my opinion, they taste exactly like the chicken you can buy at Walmart (because they ARE the exact same thing) and the chickens at the Big-Box stores can be had for less money than what one has invested their own home raised birds, not even counting labor. If the cook is not very careful, the meat will so very easily be over cooked and turn into mush. I wish we lived closer to each other ...I would be delighted to teach you and your wife the relatively simple procedure of Caponization. You can take the very young cockerels of practically any/every dual purpose chicken breed and transform it to an Epicurean delight. Truly, it's not difficult and it's becoming a technique being revived more and more every day in the USA. When I was a kid (I'm 67 now), one could walk into almost any Kroger or A&P store and buy a Capon, relatively cheap. The only problem then...They gad birds that had been caponized a few weeks before and hadn't had the time to develop that wonderful taste and texture that comes with age. I caponize my cockerels at age of 4 weeks and consider them 'aged' by 12 months but if one is not ready for capon by that time, rather than butchering and freezing, the birds can continue 'on the hoof' and the extra time, almost with out a care for the amount of additional time, and having the capons continue to gain size and luxurious flavor and texture for when you are ready. I'm sorry for writing so much but in case you don't know (many of your readers don't ), when a cockerel in caponized, it's tantamount to castrating a bull calf, stopping creation of testosterone and the bird become non-aggressive toward any other birds, has no interest in hens and the fat will marbleize within the flesh like a fine piece of beef steak and remains tender, moist and succulent. I made this as short as I could and still make my point. jajajajajajaja RON
+ronald stout thank you for this. I've heard of capons, but no one in our area does it. They sound delicious! This would be something we would be very interested in doing. If our kids hatch too many roosters this year, we'll be doing some capons!
Interesting discussion though i am wondering why you called the araucana and americauna chickens as "easter eggers" most references i have seen describes easter eggers as the result of crossing blue (or sometimes pink) egg layers with brown or even white egg layers to get different egg colours/hues?
Our Hatchery says.. and I Quote... "Loosely referred to as the "Easter Egg Chicken" our www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/tinted_egg_layers.html Ha ha, I guess I "loosely" refer to them that way too :)
Hatcheries after all are trying to sell you as much as they can and can muddy the details like any retailer. the following is taken from BackYardChickens.com, because it is easy to navigate, even without membership. ******************************************************************* Easter Eggers Description: The Easter Egger is not really a breed. They are relationed to the breeds Ameraucanas and Araucanas, then bred with many different breeds so they no longer fit either breed's standards. They usually have muffs & pea combs, but come in nearly every variety and color, some even have ear tufts or are rumpless. Each EE is different, but overall they are usually a smaller bird that lays pink, green, or blue eggs. They are normally friendly and calm, and their colorful eggs make them a popular choice in backyard flocks. ******************************************************************** if you scroll down past reviews and stuff there is details and facts at the bottom of each breed. www.backyardchickens.com/products/easter-eggers www.backyardchickens.com/products/araucana www.backyardchickens.com/products/ameraucana your american poultry association would have lots of info too, but some of it you need to be member or purchase books. There are quite a few breeds (even heritage/older ones) that lay coloured eggs (not white or brown) and crossing various breeds can result in their offspring having potential for some great egg shell colour, but muddling the term for a hybrid coloured egg layer with a specific breed does the breed a disservice in the end. (if someone is looking for a true aracuna but believes they are called easter eggers and finds some birds/chicks/hatching eggs described as easter eggers and buys them thinking they are aracunas they can end up very disappointed or worse all because of that muddying of the term)
My sister had some aracunas (I would but not allowed to have them where i am currently at) and they were wonderful birds but very very different from the easter egger chickens I have also encountered. granted both easter eggeres and the other breeds lay coloured eggs but they are very different.
What is the orange chicken with the large comb in the thumb nail? It looks a lot like mine and id really like to figure out what they are! They was sold as mixs and are mostly Orange and cream (or some call red). One has a super large comb that grew in sort of fast. They lay a pinkish all the way to brown speckled egg.
Hey,I’m Michael,live in Saint Augustine Fl.Recently I bought a 8,726 sq ft lot in Palatka,Fl.What breeds of Hens/Roosters would u reccomend for a coop in this size of lot?
All dogs are a GMO. selective breeding is a low tech form of genetic modification. This can have just as bad of effects if improperly preformed as anything made in a lab. Most GMO's aren't made in a lab. People should start by understanding the actual process and science. Hard subjects like basic biology, genetics, what a F1 or F2 generation is and why polyploidism is very important in plants/crops. If a person can't grasp the very basics of those subjects they shouldn't be talking about genetics except to ask questions and learn. As a student of developmental biology I like the fact that I own and am master of a flock of small theropods. If you would like to see some none GMO strawberries I have plenty in my yard. The chickens do eat them, I wouldn't unless starving. The GMO/chemical fears are at best ignorance of science at worst anti-science.
lovely video what chicken did i see behind you in the video, i want to breed large meat chicken at the moment i have sussex and rhode island red what do u suggest pls
+Aliyu l Aliyu I actually don't remember what breed she is, we got her at Tractor Supply a few years ago, she was just for eggs. Where are you raising the meat birds? What kind of climate, etc. That will help making your decision on breed easier.
i live in northern part of Nigeria the climate is mostly hot 35 to 45% from june to sept and 18 to 25 nov to march im raising them at my farm few kilo meters away from my home
A GMO really doesn't have to be made in a lab. If you really think about it anything that man has intentionally genetically bred for certain traits is in my opinion is a GMO. That kind of why i don't look at GMO's as a bad thing
...yeah...that´s why your "opinion" really doesn´t matter to anybody but apparently to you. Here´s a general rule of thumb that should help you: On things you are ignorant about... don´t try to form an opinion until you aren´t. You are welcome.
I have a flock of Cornish cross right now. These birds are not chicken. They look miserable. They don't even have the ability to walk. They appear to be in pain even. Just not my thing.
You have a good point here regarding the Cornish cross. However, I consider two reasons to not desire a the cornish, and am sure a lot of the hesitation comes from the fact that this bird has sometimes been known to grow so fast and so heavy in the breast as to very unnaturally not be able to support it's own body weight and have its bones break under the weight. Also, they have a reputation for helpless stupidity compared to other birds who are far superior foragers and consume far less feed, but likely don't get as large. Likewise I believe breeding dog breeds which wouldn't be viable in the wild due to an inability to mate without artificial insemination, walk without pain since turned in legs was purposely bred in to reduce tendency to wander, be prone to heart and respiratory problems like some bull dogs and other breeds is wrong since it propagates suffering of a naturally nonviable animal for people's entertainment. Other breeds are more efficient converters of feed to body weight, as Cornish grow large, but also eat a tremendous amount of chicken feed. Surely others also recognize this.
SLFYSH the Prons outweigh the Cons
Cream leg bar and the whitings do blue and true green whiting
These guy just scared my for life by saying New Hampshire’s are good “chicken pot pie birds”. My neighbor had a New Hampshire and it was
Probably the nicest chicken I have ever seen so far in my life!
The biggest problem I have with the cornish X birds that you advocate is the fact that, in my opinion, they taste exactly like the chicken you can buy at Walmart (because they ARE the exact same thing) and the chickens at the Big-Box stores can be had for less money than what one has invested their own home raised birds, not even counting labor.
If the cook is not very careful, the meat will so very easily be over cooked and turn into mush.
I wish we lived closer to each other ...I would be delighted to teach you and your wife the relatively simple procedure of Caponization. You can take the very young cockerels of practically any/every dual purpose chicken breed and transform it to an Epicurean delight. Truly, it's not difficult and it's becoming a technique being revived more and more every day in the USA. When I was a kid (I'm 67 now), one could walk into almost any Kroger or A&P store and buy a Capon, relatively cheap. The only problem then...They gad birds that had been caponized a few weeks before and hadn't had the time to develop that wonderful taste and texture that comes with age.
I caponize my cockerels at age of 4 weeks and consider them 'aged' by 12 months but if one is not ready for capon by that time, rather than butchering and freezing, the birds can continue 'on the hoof' and the extra time, almost with out a care for the amount of additional time, and having the capons continue to gain size and luxurious flavor and texture for when you are ready.
I'm sorry for writing so much but in case you don't know (many of your readers don't ), when a cockerel in caponized, it's tantamount to castrating a bull calf, stopping creation of testosterone and the bird become non-aggressive toward any other birds, has no interest in hens and the fat will marbleize within the flesh like a fine piece of beef steak and remains tender, moist and succulent.
I made this as short as I could and still make my point. jajajajajajaja
RON
+ronald stout thank you for this. I've heard of capons, but no one in our area does it. They sound delicious! This would be something we would be very interested in doing. If our kids hatch too many roosters this year, we'll be doing some capons!
There are also pink and plumb colored eggs!
I bought 4 hens at 6 weeks old and 6 baby chicks...how long should I wait before letting them live together... thx for the info
I won’t get Cornish X for the fact that the weight might break its legs which would suck.
Is Meyer Hatchery a good place to order from?
How about silkies for meat and or eggs?
What is a chicken pot pie bird? I’m new to chickens
I breed White Leghorn Rooster over Rhode Island Red and over Black Australorp fowl's. They are both good layers. We put the roosters in the freezer.
I went to your website but I don't see where to sign up? It just shows log in pages but no sign up? Help please 🥺
Do different color eggs have different nutrients? Or have slightly different tastes?
Interesting discussion though i am wondering why you called the araucana and americauna chickens as "easter eggers" most references i have seen describes easter eggers as the result of crossing blue (or sometimes pink) egg layers with brown or even white egg layers to get different egg colours/hues?
Our Hatchery says.. and I Quote... "Loosely referred to as the "Easter Egg Chicken" our www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/tinted_egg_layers.html
Ha ha, I guess I "loosely" refer to them that way too :)
Hatcheries after all are trying to sell you as much as they can and can muddy the details like any retailer.
the following is taken from BackYardChickens.com, because it is easy to navigate, even without membership.
*******************************************************************
Easter Eggers
Description:
The Easter Egger is not really a breed. They are relationed to the breeds Ameraucanas and Araucanas, then bred with many different breeds so they no longer fit either breed's standards. They usually have muffs & pea combs, but come in nearly every variety and color, some even have ear tufts or are rumpless. Each EE is different, but overall they are usually a smaller bird that lays pink, green, or blue eggs. They are normally friendly and calm, and their colorful eggs make them a popular choice in backyard flocks.
********************************************************************
if you scroll down past reviews and stuff there is details and facts at the bottom of each breed.
www.backyardchickens.com/products/easter-eggers
www.backyardchickens.com/products/araucana
www.backyardchickens.com/products/ameraucana
your american poultry association would have lots of info too, but some of it you need to be member or purchase books.
There are quite a few breeds (even heritage/older ones) that lay coloured eggs (not white or brown) and crossing various breeds can result in their offspring having potential for some great egg shell colour, but muddling the term for a hybrid coloured egg layer with a specific breed does the breed a disservice in the end. (if someone is looking for a true aracuna but believes they are called easter eggers and finds some birds/chicks/hatching eggs described as easter eggers and buys them thinking they are aracunas they can end up very disappointed or worse all because of that muddying of the term)
My sister had some aracunas (I would but not allowed to have them where i am currently at) and they were wonderful birds but very very different from the easter egger chickens I have also encountered. granted both easter eggeres and the other breeds lay coloured eggs but they are very different.
What is the orange chicken with the large comb in the thumb nail? It looks a lot like mine and id really like to figure out what they are! They was sold as mixs and are mostly Orange and cream (or some call red). One has a super large comb that grew in sort of fast. They lay a pinkish all the way to brown speckled egg.
Dog and Cornish cross is a monster hardly any feathers and legs break
Red ranger is the best
Hey,I’m Michael,live in Saint Augustine Fl.Recently I bought a 8,726 sq ft lot in Palatka,Fl.What breeds of Hens/Roosters would u reccomend for a coop in this size of lot?
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Perhaps comparing to a British bulldog might be more appropriate.
All dogs are a GMO. selective breeding is a low tech form of genetic modification. This can have just as bad of effects if improperly preformed as anything made in a lab. Most GMO's aren't made in a lab. People should start by understanding the actual process and science. Hard subjects like basic biology, genetics, what a F1 or F2 generation is and why polyploidism is very important in plants/crops. If a person can't grasp the very basics of those subjects they shouldn't be talking about genetics except to ask questions and learn.
As a student of developmental biology I like the fact that I own and am master of a flock of small theropods. If you would like to see some none GMO strawberries I have plenty in my yard. The chickens do eat them, I wouldn't unless starving. The GMO/chemical fears are at best ignorance of science at worst anti-science.
Enjoy the videos, thanks for the info!
do you know any hatchery that sell fertail egg worldwide? because I live outside of united States of America.
Sorry, don't!
very good video. thanks
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lovely video what chicken did i see behind you in the video, i want to breed large meat chicken at the moment i have sussex and rhode island red what do u suggest pls
+Aliyu l Aliyu I actually don't remember what breed she is, we got her at Tractor Supply a few years ago, she was just for eggs. Where are you raising the meat birds? What kind of climate, etc. That will help making your decision on breed easier.
i live in northern part of Nigeria the climate is mostly hot 35 to 45% from june to sept and 18 to 25 nov to march im raising them at my farm few kilo meters away from my home
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please tell me how much feed need for an adult new hampshire chicken ( average) ?
Brother am from Pakistan and want to run pure organic rooster farm for meat purpose. please suggest me a breed.
plz make a video in which you discribe how to meet a new chicken with my rooster she is run away to my rooster
Blue jewel has been good for me massive egg laying
Amazing video!
Thanks for sharing. God Bless. We subscribed
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Why do folks always say "best breed for beginners"? If one isn't a beginner, do they raise other breeds?
do yall see my picture right thats my chicken and i dont know what kind is it
Me either... sorry!
Barry Sanders fann we have one to not sure either
Looks like an anime character to me 😀👍
labrodor cant go throw brush have you ever tried doing that.
Mclovein Mclove most animals without thumbs have A hard time throwing stuff..... So I'm not surprised a Labrador can't throw brush.
NICE I LOVE HAVING CHICKENS
Chicken scratch the grass not to eat the grass but to eat the bugs and the grubs under it
i think its just the fact that we arent ingesting the "unnatural" dog lol
the thing is were not eating the dog, were eating the chicken
Most here don’t want Cornish cross
Cornish cross gets to heavy can’t free range flavor is like store bought. No flavor at all
i want to buy new hampshire chickens fertail eggs from United States of America.
I have to say dual auto sexing chickens
A GMO really doesn't have to be made in a lab. If you really think about it anything that man has intentionally genetically bred for certain traits is in my opinion is a GMO. That kind of why i don't look at GMO's as a bad thing
Caleb Christensen acualy that's called selective breeding.
Caleb Christensen and breeding selectively changes its genetic make up... change like modify.....
Caleb Christensen no
...yeah...that´s why your "opinion" really doesn´t matter to anybody but apparently to you.
Here´s a general rule of thumb that should help you:
On things you are ignorant about... don´t try to form an opinion until you aren´t.
You are welcome.
Caleb Christensen u right
You said maran correctly!!! 😅😅
+Candice Christensen phew 😅 you know we would've had some comments if we didn't!
Candice Christensen YEAH...
I have a flock of Cornish cross right now. These birds are not chicken. They look miserable. They don't even have the ability to walk. They appear to be in pain even. Just not my thing.
I would honestly suggest doing more research next time. I'm not going to pick your video apart but several things you said are dead wrong.
That’s your opinion
I don’t eat anything cuter than me
Araucanas and Ameraucanas are not Easter eggers.
I heard the ameraucanas are
Zombie chickens that’s not the same as a Lab
If u ask me there jst stuffed on steroids before u get them
OMG
noooooooooooooooooooo 😭
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You talk to much,show something , chicken,roosters or some possible!!