buddy i have my grandmothers 66 two door post with the original 327, power glide and 12 bolt rear-end. yes i know the post came with a straight 6 and 10 bolt rear-end. but my grandmother ordered her 66 post from the factory with the 327 and 12 bolt. cos my dad talked her into getting the V8 and better rear-end. im sososoo glad he did.. lol
Very nice suspension upgrades that should help significantly with handling. My only concern is connecting it all to a non boxed frame that will twist like a hula dancer. Great kits are made to stiffen both Chev and Ford perimeter frames.
What is the best route for a 1979 El Camino front and rear suspension.. 4A race car application. I would like to do a full brake assembly.. how much would something like this cost..
Its fun to watch the rich blow money on toys. see how the shop shows no signs of anyone actually working there, its a very expensive TV show, Im thankful they can show it for free. some shops might tell you there insurance will not allow you to watch them do the work, you must wait outside. these guys are a blessing.
sometimes i stay home don`t drink or smoke and save up my cash for car part`s . = but driving when the new parts are fitted is worth the effort ! great show and thank you !
This is awesome, we have a 64 Malibu that could use the basic kit. I plan to start restoration on it soon and already planned new suspension and disc brakes so it's safer to drive and occasionally beat on. It was done up twenty years ago and driven occasionally then we've been storing it for awhile now as other expenses arose. My house is within a year of being paid in full and then I'm gonna start on it. Every classic muscle car deserves restoration!! Too many older vehicles dissappeared. My dad inlaw has a beautifully built 31 A model setting next to the Malibu in heated garage I can't wait for them to be similarly bada$$. He has a blower on his small block tho. I may go LS or matching edelbrock aluminum heads on our 350. It's got that matching performer rpm intake and carb so far but could use a freshen up and more power parts. Powerglide needs freshen up too. Great video guys! I didn't know these kits existed yet.
try spohn they have a lot of these parts for cheaper. on my 88 monte ss they had an explorer rear brake kit for its disc brakes in rear. saves alot also other cheaper bare kit
Came for the episode. Stayed for the people griping about not being able to afford the parts and tools shown. And that they could make the old parts perform just as good as the new parts. All while only spending$97.39 doing it.
@Seymour Kuntz dude you made my day. In all fairness there is like 8k in parts in their build. Not cheap but sometimes you get what you pay for. All top shelf parts.
Well, we live in the times of "I want it now, with no work involved"... all those "showing up trophies" has it's effects. Cracks me up that young'ns will drop 1k on a phone, and 150 a month to use it, but balk at the thought of car part prices.
I looked up the qa1 basic kit for our 64 malibu. $1400 with shocks plus the disc brake kit. Not too bad for a more performance suspension. I plan to replace it soon. May go stock refurbish? Then spend on the brake kit or find a cheaper alternative. I'd like it close to stock but man the drum brakes are horrid and like to be stuck almost everytime we get it out of storage for a weekend drive. Current leaf spring set up and stock front can be a wallowing handful when I open her up a little and stretch her legs. IMO, she deserves all the money I can afford to throw at her. Being a 55 year old survivor.
If I drill a hole in something I've painted I will hit the hole again with some paint so that spot of raw metal doesnt rust. Surely I'm not the only one who does this?
I like how the kits you used aren't vehicle specific (i.e. _ONLY_ for the Chevelle). A request guys, could you make season playlists? It would make it a crap load easier for those of us late to the channel to follow a build!
I wonder if it’s better to just buy a aftermarket chassis they go for 14-20K by the time u buy all the parts for improvements on ur stock frame can’t be too far from buying new ???
Really enjoyed this video. I was always told not to use Anti Seize on thrust washers or bearing of any kind? Maybe I was misinformed. Thanks for sharing
I was excited when they said modern suspension, then they said it bolted into the stock location... so it's just the old suspension with new parts... got it
All you have to do is go to the power nation Detroit Muscle web site, click season, select episode and a button will be under it that says parts. Click that button and it gives you a list of what they used. www.powernationtv.com/episode/DM2016-17/converting-a-chevelle-chassis-into-a-modernized-monster#parts
Never use an air gun on rotors. Unless the gun is calibrated to specific torque it will warp the rotors. I use a 4 way, hand torque to specs, drive and re-torque!
Not only that, but the tax breaks on enterrainment can be nice. [Wouldn't I like to build something and get a writeoff in the process?] If they don't have 4 star catering services when producing these shows, there's something very wrong. TV is basically Hollywood, which is to say... a party with an expense account they just record a portion of for resale/vicarious living of the masses.
Though I'd like a '72 Chevelle, and y'all said it for the sake of the video, a '72/'73 Barracuda comes to mind when someone mentions "Muscle Car" for me.
Nice upgrades but very costly. Unless it's a track car you don't really need the double adjustable shocks, I run the single coil overs on my '94 Camaro and they are perfect for on the street. I will be converting my Chevelle to C6 corvette brakes using a newly developed spindle which allows using all GM parts, including the sealed type wheel bearing assembly. The control arms don't really need to be changed unless the ball joints are worn or you want to install polygraphite bushings. My car came with the factory 12 bolt, easily strong enough, no need for a Ford 9-inch.
Did anyone have the same "ugh" reaction when you saw all that anti-seize all over the shock and especially his fingers? Nasty shiite! Just one molecule of anti-seize on you and within no time you're looking like the Tin Man on Wizard of Oz. Gloves, dude!!
Cool build and upgrades but be careful with those old frames. They were designed to have some flex, stiffening them up that much can lead to cracking when driven hard. Especially in the front around the A-arms and spring mounts.
Yea but you should adjust your ride height before you go out driving your car. Once the height is set you can wash off the antisieze, if you want to adjust later go ahead and put some more on first
That stuff came for Satan himself. I've seen it show up on the bottom of my socks before.. having never taken my boots off. It's a running joke in the shop to warn everyone your about to use A.S. - It's needed, and safes you major problems down the road.. but it IS evil! :)
@@hawkdsl I do believe it is from the devil's backside I've found that stuff in the weirdest places on myself. That why I have a shower in my shop. So I don't get that shit in the house. I'd never hear the end of it
Can someone explain to me why they didn't paint the brackets from qa1 when they painted the whole rest of the rear end. those brackets look like bare metal and at the lowest point to the ground they're going to rush to shit
Will the shock bottom out under full travel. Does it need a bigger bump stop. I seen a different company making similar parts. The other kit bottomed out. I am making a decision which kit to buy.
Baer Brakes $2500 Currie Axle $1400 QA1 kit $2200 Spindles $130 Wheels $1000 Brake lines $150 Just quick Google searching. Brakes I had to play quick on Summit's site. Add in tax and shipping somewhere around $8000 since that axle will probably ship as freight due to weight and bulk.
If you can get the car cheap, and the body is not Swiss cheese, have a place to do it.. well, it would most likely be cheaper then a new car by magnitudes. All in, 30-40k, and it would be new, last way longer, get more looks, and not have to be plugged into a super computer to figure out whats wrong with it.
wish they would SLOW Down this is not real TV its Freaking U-Tube but I understand. I have 2 questions What is the advantage to using QA-1 Lowers? Can u put a larger/Wider tire under the Chevelle If so what size? And on my frame I added the summit racing stiffening kit Where and how do run my Brake lines which I got from summit racing Also stainless steel of course? Any help would be much Appreciated...
That Optima 800 CCP battery is excellent. Do you have over 800HP in your car? I don't think so. You put 2 of those in the trunk of your car and you can run a Super Comp Race car running faster than 8.20 seconds in the 1/4 mile forever.
So we keep the roof, firewall and bare frame from our barn find. From the car lovers who say restore em don't shred them. I don't really see much difference.
Converting a Chevelle Chassis into a Modernized Monster Step One: Take a 5 gallon bucket to the bank Step Two: Fill 5 gallon bucket to the top with $100 bills Step Three: Open trunk of car Step four: Pour bucket of money into trunk....
Small point, & I'm just nit picking...let's torque our suspension bolts at ride height. It doesn't take much to put a jack underneath, raise the component & torque.I gaurnttee bushings will last longer & feel better...IMHO!
@@xc8487 anti seize has mettalic flakes in it.. putting a greasy metal flake product on or in a bearing is a terrible idea. Might as well throw the bearing behind the bench grinder and then pack it full of grease if you want the same effect. Thats like saying packing your wheels bearing with anti seize is okay it won't destroy the rollers at all lol. And I hope you realize I'm talking about the spring perch thrust washers too....
@@chucksteele4787 exactly, why would you introduce metal particles into a bearing/bearing surface. I can see putting it on the adjustment collar threads but not the bearing. No matter what. I've seen a Ford focus with anti seize on the rear stub axle under the bearing. Some previous tech had put on before the bearing, the heat made it fling into the bearing and within one oil change the bearing was shot. Makes absolutely no sense to do such a thing.
I like the picture of Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane in the background!
Them Dukes! Them DUKES!
buddy i have my grandmothers 66 two door post with the original 327, power glide and 12 bolt rear-end. yes i know the post came with a straight 6 and 10 bolt rear-end. but my grandmother ordered her 66 post from the factory with the 327 and 12 bolt. cos my dad talked her into getting the V8 and better rear-end. im sososoo glad he did.. lol
Cool ....just 20 grand in bolt ons sounds like a fun weekend
Very nice suspension upgrades that should help significantly with handling. My only concern is connecting it all to a non boxed frame that will twist like a hula dancer. Great kits are made to stiffen both Chev and Ford perimeter frames.
What is the best route for a 1979 El Camino front and rear suspension.. 4A race car application. I would like to do a full brake assembly.. how much would something like this cost..
@@michealevans7959 opl
Its fun to watch the rich blow money on toys. see how the shop shows no signs of anyone actually working there, its a very expensive TV show, Im thankful they can show it for free. some shops might tell you there insurance will not allow you to watch them do the work, you must wait outside. these guys are a blessing.
sometimes i stay home don`t drink or smoke and save up my cash for car part`s . = but driving when the new parts are fitted is worth the effort ! great show and thank you !
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This is awesome, we have a 64 Malibu that could use the basic kit. I plan to start restoration on it soon and already planned new suspension and disc brakes so it's safer to drive and occasionally beat on. It was done up twenty years ago and driven occasionally then we've been storing it for awhile now as other expenses arose. My house is within a year of being paid in full and then I'm gonna start on it. Every classic muscle car deserves restoration!! Too many older vehicles dissappeared. My dad inlaw has a beautifully built 31 A model setting next to the Malibu in heated garage I can't wait for them to be similarly bada$$. He has a blower on his small block tho. I may go LS or matching edelbrock aluminum heads on our 350. It's got that matching performer rpm intake and carb so far but could use a freshen up and more power parts. Powerglide needs freshen up too. Great video guys! I didn't know these kits existed yet.
try spohn they have a lot of these parts for cheaper. on my 88 monte ss they had an explorer rear brake kit for its disc brakes in rear. saves alot also other cheaper bare kit
I will say this about QA1, they have all the shows on lock down lol.
Show us the costs of each component as you install them. Anyone can build an unlimited budget build.
You can find it all on Summit and Year One. They don't state pricing because it's all subject to change.
Yeah your right what's this build coast?
Yeah what this build cost?
@@williecochran6588 considering how much qa1 parts are, its a pretty deep pocket rebuild budget
Its your responsibility to shop in your budget so let them do them
Came for the episode. Stayed for the people griping about not being able to afford the parts and tools shown. And that they could make the old parts perform just as good as the new parts. All while only spending$97.39 doing it.
@Seymour Kuntz dude you made my day. In all fairness there is like 8k in parts in their build. Not cheap but sometimes you get what you pay for. All top shelf parts.
Lol. The only gripe I have is the whole “barn find” story. There are currently more barn find videos on the internet than barns to find cars in.
@@clarkclifford2338 word.....gettin' old.
Well, we live in the times of "I want it now, with no work involved"... all those "showing up trophies" has it's effects. Cracks me up that young'ns will drop 1k on a phone, and 150 a month to use it, but balk at the thought of car part prices.
I looked up the qa1 basic kit for our 64 malibu. $1400 with shocks plus the disc brake kit. Not too bad for a more performance suspension. I plan to replace it soon. May go stock refurbish? Then spend on the brake kit or find a cheaper alternative. I'd like it close to stock but man the drum brakes are horrid and like to be stuck almost everytime we get it out of storage for a weekend drive. Current leaf spring set up and stock front can be a wallowing handful when I open her up a little and stretch her legs. IMO, she deserves all the money I can afford to throw at her. Being a 55 year old survivor.
You guys are great, I appreciate you. And your job 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯❤🥰
Those wheels are sick!!
What kind are they
If I drill a hole in something I've painted I will hit the hole again with some paint so that spot of raw metal doesnt rust. Surely I'm not the only one who does this?
so many people take shortcuts in life
And also I would’ve stiffened that chassis at its week points where it flexes under hard launches and extreme cornering
The Truth about Africa hurts now that’s modest 😂
@Jack Benton This crew is terrible, newer ones are much better.
Right you are - paint isn't about pretty with steel, it's about keeping your steel.
Now these are my kinda LEGOS! 😎👍
I hope these guys find a torque wrench in the next episode......
Very cool guys the best episode l have seen for a while....
honestly that's a gorgeous chassis
I like how the kits you used aren't vehicle specific (i.e. _ONLY_ for the Chevelle). A request guys, could you make season playlists? It would make it a crap load easier for those of us late to the channel to follow a build!
GM A Bodies....all used the same base frame. So all the parts swap out.
I run across a lot of this same stuff building Donk cars at the custom shop.
I wonder if it’s better to just buy a aftermarket chassis they go for 14-20K by the time u buy all the parts for improvements on ur stock frame can’t be too far from buying new ???
Absolutely love QA1, good customer service and excellent products.
I need a sponsor QA1 hint hint
Ss
Powder coated chassis, professional spray booth. Paints rear axel in professional spray booth with a spray can! 😂
I think Gale Banks would have a few words to say about that differential housing.
Great vid guys. Super informative.
chrisfix: hey you forget to put medium strength thread locker on each bolts
outstanding!!!
i remember seeing the paint (metallic blue i think it was) go on this build but dont remember if they ever finished it?
Credibility hit a low at 7:53, 1972 Chevelle had disc brakes front, drum rear.
yes i noticed the spindles were disc brake.
Really enjoyed this video. I was always told not to use Anti Seize on thrust washers or bearing of any kind? Maybe I was misinformed. Thanks for sharing
I was excited when they said modern suspension, then they said it bolted into the stock location... so it's just the old suspension with new parts... got it
Damn good video, thank you guys!
Anyone bending their own brake lines do yourself a favor and get nickel copper line. It doesn't rust and is softer so it's easier to bend and flare.
Voice of the commercial guy gets me hype!
Or how about a parts list of everything used. :)
All you have to do is go to the power nation Detroit Muscle web site, click season, select episode and a button will be under it that says parts. Click that button and it gives you a list of what they used.
www.powernationtv.com/episode/DM2016-17/converting-a-chevelle-chassis-into-a-modernized-monster#parts
Just curious why they didn't beef up the frame first (i.e no frame reinforcement kit).
Never use an air gun on rotors. Unless the gun is calibrated to specific torque it will warp the rotors. I use a 4 way, hand torque to specs, drive and re-torque!
Wen u start snatchin on that steerin wheel....haha this dude hahaha!
@Michael Teeple im not pokein fun at him i just think the way he phrases stuff is comical/funny in an entertaining way.
I had that exact car . ..nearly 30 yrs ago .
I had a 70 SS 402 in 1977
Damn
where is it now?
It was stolen .
@@shawnfoxfirth9684 that's sad 😔
Looked like delrin bushings on the a arms at first. That would be a rough ride 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🚀🍻
What size tires are you running
2:09 lmfao cause for years we used grease and a deadblow hammer wow kids today
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙌🙏
Must be nice to have money.........I've got to BUILD all of my parts, including a Winston Cup full floater rear end.
Not only that, but the tax breaks on enterrainment can be nice. [Wouldn't I like to build something and get a writeoff in the process?] If they don't have 4 star catering services when producing these shows, there's something very wrong. TV is basically Hollywood, which is to say... a party with an expense account they just record a portion of for resale/vicarious living of the masses.
Though I'd like a '72 Chevelle, and y'all said it for the sake of the video, a '72/'73 Barracuda comes to mind when someone mentions "Muscle Car" for me.
Nice upgrades but very costly. Unless it's a track car you don't really need the double adjustable shocks, I run the single coil overs on my '94 Camaro and they are perfect for on the street. I will be converting my Chevelle to C6 corvette brakes using a newly developed spindle which allows using all GM parts, including the sealed type wheel bearing assembly. The control arms don't really need to be changed unless the ball joints are worn or you want to install polygraphite bushings. My car came with the factory 12 bolt, easily strong enough, no need for a Ford 9-inch.
Now that I have the garage and money to restore...Sure wish I hadn’t long ago got rid of my ‘71 rusted Buick GS.
nice work guys
Why no frame stiffening cross members ?
I know vht says you do not need a base coat/primer, i still use acid etch primer and then the black vht. Autobody habits i geuss.
Do use anti-seize use pb blaster or WD-40 then when u have ur adjustments done spray it down with brake cleaner and wipe it off
Did anyone have the same "ugh" reaction when you saw all that anti-seize all over the shock and especially his fingers? Nasty shiite! Just one molecule of anti-seize on you and within no time you're looking like the Tin Man on Wizard of Oz. Gloves, dude!!
Love the show guy's
Cool build and upgrades but be careful with those old frames. They were designed to have some flex, stiffening them up that much can lead to cracking when driven hard. Especially in the front around the A-arms and spring mounts.
nice video guys, as always, the problem i see is with the antiseace, dirt and stuff will gunk up the threads much faster?
Uhmmm....no.
Yea but you should adjust your ride height before you go out driving your car. Once the height is set you can wash off the antisieze, if you want to adjust later go ahead and put some more on first
And now every thing you touch
Now has anti seize on it.
Hell yeah
That stuff came for Satan himself. I've seen it show up on the bottom of my socks before.. having never taken my boots off. It's a running joke in the shop to warn everyone your about to use A.S. - It's needed, and safes you major problems down the road.. but it IS evil! :)
@@hawkdsl
I do believe it is from the devil's backside
I've found that stuff in the weirdest places on myself.
That why I have a shower in my shop.
So I don't get that shit in the house.
I'd never hear the end of it
What? You don't like looking like the Tin Man after installing a spark plug in an aluminum head?
First thing that comes to my mind is a 69 SS Camaro BBC!
Ar all products u.s. made and all parts therof sourced here too?
Can someone explain to me why they didn't paint the brackets from qa1 when they painted the whole rest of the rear end. those brackets look like bare metal and at the lowest point to the ground they're going to rush to shit
What did you use for paint on the frame? Looks great. Just the right sheen to it. Been searching for something like that for years! Bill
Will the shock bottom out under full travel. Does it need a bigger bump stop. I seen a different company making similar parts. The other kit bottomed out. I am making a decision which kit to buy.
Shouldn't you have applied the antiseze before you installed the lock nut and spring nut on the front coil over?
Can i put chevelle body/shell on a hilux chassis?serious question here
Automobiles: The passions of Mr. Christ.
no tall spindles or extended ball joints for better chamber adjustment ?
I don't care how big your tube of lube is - the hammer is coming out -lol
Thanks so much
Hmm 🤔What's the point in putting a sway bar on/underneath the rear axle?
It assists the front sway bar.
Is there a link to a video of this car selling at Mecum?
Wooow, that's the job
Well, close, I was actually thinking of the Nova.
Please help can’t figure out where adjustable trailing arms
Be cool if you would list Prices of these parts ..
Baer Brakes $2500
Currie Axle $1400
QA1 kit $2200
Spindles $130
Wheels $1000
Brake lines $150
Just quick Google searching. Brakes I had to play quick on Summit's site. Add in tax and shipping somewhere around $8000 since that axle will probably ship as freight due to weight and bulk.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@@BigEightiesNewWave yep. But sometimes good kit costs a packet.
Cheaper than buying a good handling supercar.
If you can get the car cheap, and the body is not Swiss cheese, have a place to do it.. well, it would most likely be cheaper then a new car by magnitudes. All in, 30-40k, and it would be new, last way longer, get more looks, and not have to be plugged into a super computer to figure out whats wrong with it.
wish they would SLOW Down this is not real TV its Freaking U-Tube but I understand. I have 2 questions What is the advantage to using QA-1 Lowers? Can u put a larger/Wider tire under the Chevelle If so what size? And on my frame I added the summit racing stiffening kit Where and how do run my Brake lines which I got from summit racing Also stainless steel of course? Any help would be much Appreciated...
What's the QA1's kit part number. Looking to purchase.
That's suspension set up looks nice!
can't wait for more.
I'll take a hard pass on that crappy battery through.
That Optima 800 CCP battery is excellent. Do you have over 800HP in your car? I don't think so. You put 2 of those in the trunk of your car and you can run a Super Comp Race car running faster than 8.20 seconds in the 1/4 mile forever.
@@josephmonaco4503 Mine experienced post seal failure near the 1 year mark - it was replaced by seller under warranty. So far, so good.
Do you guys ever sell these cars? I love to buy one
Can you link the cushion clamp you used?
I cant wait for the next installment....you know, at a later date, down the road.
was there any chassis stiffening done
great video very educational
why not box the frame?
Can’t wait for the next video on this project
go to their website. it's all there to the end.. and free with ads.
Oloco só peças de qualidade, ótima semana pra vcs
You use top shelf components and use cheap rattle can paint? Should have used a good eurathane primer and chassis paint. I love those wheels!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Do have 68 buick wildcat and unable to find anything like this to make a swap like this
ya man hard core brauh ,with my gravel voice
Do they make a kit for a 66?
Should have used Acetone instead of brake parts cleaner on the diff…no petroleum residue…paints gonna lift later…you watch
Needs some bracing to be a monster.
Yeah, I was surprised they didn't add at least bolt-on bracing. The trans crossmember won't keep that from flexing.
So we keep the roof, firewall and bare frame from our barn find.
From the car lovers who say restore em don't shred them.
I don't really see much difference.
That car didn’t need quarters what a waste
Or use a new chassis. They should of used the 5th gen Camaro chassis it probably would fit perfectly
You can find quicker steering boxes than 2 3/4 lock to lock.
Converting a Chevelle Chassis into a Modernized Monster
Step One: Take a 5 gallon bucket to the bank
Step Two: Fill 5 gallon bucket to the top with $100 bills
Step Three: Open trunk of car
Step four: Pour bucket of money into trunk....
Does this work for a buick 73 century 350 v8..2 door?
Small point, & I'm just nit picking...let's torque our suspension bolts at ride height. It doesn't take much to put a jack underneath, raise the component & torque.I gaurnttee bushings will last longer & feel better...IMHO!
This is a fact, not an opinion.
13:08 typical botch install, no rust proofing of what's drilled plus a great trap for rust between bracket and base plate.
What happens to the cars when you guys are done with them?
"and here we put anti-sieze on a bearing surface" cause you know bearings like anti sieze lolol
Anti seize won't gum up as bad as grease or wash out like oil. Of course these are parts that are intended to be maintained not set and forget.
@@xc8487 anti seize has mettalic flakes in it.. putting a greasy metal flake product on or in a bearing is a terrible idea. Might as well throw the bearing behind the bench grinder and then pack it full of grease if you want the same effect. Thats like saying packing your wheels bearing with anti seize is okay it won't destroy the rollers at all lol. And I hope you realize I'm talking about the spring perch thrust washers too....
Anti seize is not a lube, REGARDLESS what some "engineer" at the OEM says. It's full of metal grit. It will kill a bearing.
@@chucksteele4787 exactly, why would you introduce metal particles into a bearing/bearing surface. I can see putting it on the adjustment collar threads but not the bearing. No matter what. I've seen a Ford focus with anti seize on the rear stub axle under the bearing. Some previous tech had put on before the bearing, the heat made it fling into the bearing and within one oil change the bearing was shot. Makes absolutely no sense to do such a thing.
@@joshwolff2386 They must have a surplus of thrust bearings they are trying to sell.
I like the show, but I also like, when old parts are restored, and not just replaced.
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