As a RR enthusiast I have to say this is a really good first time buyer guide for anybody considering one of these, very good points made, nice and clear explanation. Everybody needs to remember, buying these cars are easy, maintaining them is costly! Keep the videos coming... thanks!
Hey you never no there not as expensive these days.. glad u enjoyed it thanks for your support subscribe for my next video im working on a few more rolls royce videos.
🙂 Some very good pectoral advice on buying an older generation of Rolls_Royce vehicle. The best thing to remember and know about these cars is .Their is no such thing as a cheap Rolls_Royce or Bentley, then and now!. They are always going to be expensive to run and maintain...I myself own a late mark IV Silver Spirit 1996- 1997.144 units built..............
Great video, loads of detail. The wheels did get a bit bigger over the years so they're not all 15" ones, my '96 Turbo R has 17" ones, 255/55. Absolutely right about tyres though, I've got the Avons on mine, people cheaping out and putting off-roader tyres on are probably cutting other corners and that can end in disaster on these cars.
Good practical advice. These are big cars, longer than most standard garages, so budget for an extension. The Spirit is the best value entry into RR ownership and a decent one does drive very nicely.
Thanks for your comments i remember when i was a kid my dad had to remove a row of bricks from the inner leaf so that his back bumper would reverse into it so that the front gate would shut🤣joys of buying the spur slightly longer than the spirit.
@@markrichmond7971 hi mate unfortunately i dont but you can always get a rac inspection.if you email me the details of both cars id be happy to take a look at them.
Hey Pav, new to your channel and very impressed at the tips for newbies like myself. I am currently searching for my own Spirit, a 60th present to myself - always wanted one. They were brand new in showrooms when I lived in the UK, but I'm "home" in Australia now. Glad I watched your thorough overview, thanks!!
Hi Mark thanks for your comment im glad its helped in someway stay tuned i have more rolls royce videos on the way and i hope you find yourself a nice example im sure they cost alot more in Australia but ill tell you one thing you wont be disappointed ive been driving them since i was 15 and i must say they are a completely different driving experience and ive driven alot of cars but nothing is quite like a rolls. All the best any questions just ask
@@raenzoperformance9600 Thank you mate! I look forward to more R-R videos very much, very informative. Cost here in Australia is roughly the same, but our offerings seem "tired" and ill-cared-for compared to examples in England. I have been a passenger in a Spirit, but never the driver. Airport Transfers in Hong Kong to/from the Peninsular Hotel as you would know, is via the signature Green Rolls-Royces, they are much newer models now of course, but this was back in the 80s/90s when I traveled for work haha. I am excited for the journey mate, thank you again!
Hey mate, Mark in Aus here again...I wonder if you know whether the Spirits have side intrusion bars installed in the doors? Considering bringing one in from UK, but intrusion bars are mandatory. Cheers mate! 👍
@@markhooper1352 hi mate hope your well good luck hope you find a nice one and yes the doors do have intrusion protection fitted in the doors if you email me i can send u a description document which confirms alot of helpful detail on the rolls royce silver spirit.
@@raenzoperformance9600 Thank you for your advice re the intrusion bars mate! Do you happen to know if the intrusion bars are also fitted to the Shadow I and/or II ? Looking at Spirits, but a couple of Shadows have caught my eye also.
Very good advice and review, these cars are fabulous to drive and to look at, the issue of the spring cups was well explained and an important item on the car that can cause problems. The other issue to look out for is brake pipes, can fail without any warning so double check especially on older models. Head gasket replacement expensive, and once again can go with little or no warning, any car with over 60k miles, service/maintenance history needs to be checked for this issue. Flying Spares are a great team and more than helpful for parts and advice. Thanks for this, very well done video, keep up the good work.
Hi mate thanks for watching and your positive feedback and yes agreed with the brake pipes had to make a few of them over the years i was meant to add the bit about the service history but forgot😂 got more rolls videos coming through so stay tuned.
If the mascot is lifted and the plate pushed down it will release and drop into the grill sometimes just moving the mascot to the side will drop it down its a safety device to stop injury i believe. You can buy a lockable cover for it from flyingspares.com for 125 quid so once the mascot has dropped into the grill the cover will fit onto the recess in the grill and lock it. I used to have one on a rr i had with a everflex roof but sold that car years ago
You’re dead right about head gasket failure on later cars. I have a 96 Spirit and head gaskets failed at about 60k during an MOT. Cost 6k to get repaired then they failed again, but were thankfully replaced under warranty. Now need some bodywork done as the wheel arches have started to bubble. Latest issue? … some idiot stole my spirit of ecstasy- refurbished replacement a mere £650 +vat! Running one of these is uber expensive unless you’ve got the know-how/facilities to diy.
Yes unfortunately thats an issue with the newer cars they are a delight to drive that said performance is alot better than the older cars more refined drive but yes like you say the badge does hold a premium when it comes to repairs that said if your slightly diy then they're not the hardest cars to work on
Do you know how to release the bonnet mascot. If it can be done without access to the car then its not much security. Also where could i buy a locking cover?
I have a 1989 Spirit l. I'm having a hard time trying to find an ignition key. What I've been told it's a 62HF. I've bought 2 different brands and they are both a little bit short and will not start the car. Any recommendations?
Hi mate i believe it is a 62hf but once i lost the key to my dads 82 spirit so i removed the ignition module and took it to panick keys in Wolverhampton and the chap made me a key using the barrel very experienced chap but that was a few years ago not sure if the chap still works there i will put up there number in my next comment also if you watch the speedometer fix video i explain how to remove the facia then u can remove the ignition module complete.
Hi mate thanks for watching if i can get my hands on one i will defo. But i will say i did own a seraph for about 5 years it was a nice car it has all the bmw running gear the 5.4 engine shares the characteristics of the 7 series i had a few issues with mine so i moved it on so wasnt the best experience they suffer coil pack failing quite often and the battery sitiation isnt great it had 2 batteries starter and auxillary if one is a little low it will fail to start, the system is to prevent no start situations but due to the setup being not so thought out it suffers some issues i have been left on fuel station car parks waiting hours for it to suddenly change its mind and start up. Might have just been mine wasnt great but just sharing my experience overall the drive isnt great either there quite heavy to drive but if you can find a nice one with a good warranty give it a go all the best
Helpful review but there is lots this review doesn't cover.Tapping on cold start for up to 2 or 5 minutes can be the brake pumps until up to pressure that sounds like lifters & is normal . Best model years are 20000 series Between 1987- 89. 1990 & newer are much more complicated & have lots more that costs LOTS to fix when things go wrong. Alarm system battery & ecu failure, Air bag clock springs & seat belt sensors in later cars, Active ride & Climate control systems that require a Rolls-Royce "Test box" to analyse any problems. 1990 & newer wiring diagram is 3 times the size of 1989 & back should tell you something .1989 has lots of things that can be fixed or repaired as they are more analog. 1994 & newer Zytek F.I. is not as easy to work on or as reliable as Bosch CIS. 1997 & newer suffer fuel rail "O" ring failure that will ruin your wallet & this issue is not IF it will happen but WHEN. Newer cars just have WAY too much electronics & other issues. I've had 6 SZ since 2000 & my 89 Bentley Turbo RL is by far my favorite. Do LOTS or homework before purchase. These are a wonderful special cars just don't get a neglected POS! Sorry to have gone on so long! Good luck. Terry in Canada. Here's a helpful RR utube to watch ua-cam.com/video/gVxSisyzT3o/v-deo.html
@@raenzoperformance9600 no mate ive always wanted one ive got a Merc c280 , but listening to you and watching a few videos it looks like i would have to layout about 20 grand for a decent one
@@billblythe3823 ok.. i would say north of 10k for a decent one 20k should buy you stunner ive owned a few mercs and still do but you will be suprised how nice the rolls is different car altogether.
Cotswold Beige in 1988 would have been incredibly rare but possible. The paint in unobtainable but this is not a 1988 spec car. Rodents have been at this car and that includes the channel owner.
Check the reg online its a 1988 but then from the sound of it you must be the oracle and you know more and yes your right rodents have been at the owner now because i smell a rat a big one thats just left the comment above.
@@raenzoperformance9600 I've spent many years within the official Rolls-Royce/Bentley network and was technical manager for the world's only ever appointed coachbuilder where often had 90 cars with us at any one time. That role took me across the world so yes, I do know quite a bit about them. Oh, I also own four Crewe built cars currently. The date of registration does not relate to the spec of the car. The 1988 spec car is released in 1987, 1990 spec cars (Spirit II) were released in 1989. Your car lacks some of the details of the upgraded 1988 car. Cars were ordered months in advance so delivery of an earlier spec car can easily take place in the next year registration. Some orders were cancelled meaning the dealer would still be obliged to take the car that they would then have to find a buyer for, that's a difficult sell if later spec cars have been released because who would want the older one?
Ive bought over 50 cars in my life time and never have i ever heard anyone tell me that my rubbing my hand over a car i will scratch it.. if thats case dont wash your car the sponge will scratch iy
Ma786sai Dua really most useful. Mine is an early Mark 1 1982 Spirit. The unbridled joy the pure ecstasy this marque so effortlessly grants its fortunate owner is something that no other marque, no matter how hallowed can ever ever match.
As a RR enthusiast I have to say this is a really good first time buyer guide for anybody considering one of these, very good points made, nice and clear explanation. Everybody needs to remember, buying these cars are easy, maintaining them is costly! Keep the videos coming... thanks!
Thankyou sir i very much appreciete your support please subscribe for next rolls royce video🙏
Watching this with no hope of buying an RR or Bentley any time soon, but love learning about these amazing cars. Great advice, thank you.
Hey you never no there not as expensive these days.. glad u enjoyed it thanks for your support subscribe for my next video im working on a few more rolls royce videos.
🙂 Some very good pectoral advice on buying an older generation of Rolls_Royce vehicle. The best thing to remember and know about these cars is .Their is no such thing as a cheap Rolls_Royce or Bentley, then and now!. They are always going to be expensive to run and maintain...I myself own a late mark IV Silver Spirit 1996- 1997.144 units built..............
Thankyou and yes you are right maintenance can add up
Thanks that was clear and helpful.Good work👍
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Thanks for honest down to earth review.
@@peterriggall8409 thanks for watching
That was fantastic, really comprehensive guide full of good info. Much appreciated. 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
Nice to see u back in with another episode brov wish you all the best with awesome cars they mint way you look and maintain gald..🙏
Great video, loads of detail. The wheels did get a bit bigger over the years so they're not all 15" ones, my '96 Turbo R has 17" ones, 255/55. Absolutely right about tyres though, I've got the Avons on mine, people cheaping out and putting off-roader tyres on are probably cutting other corners and that can end in disaster on these cars.
Yeh totally couldn't agree more you cant cut corners with a rolls has to be 100 percent.
15:20 the tires on this car are done. Completely weather-checked and dry rotted. I'd be way more concerned about that instead of what brand they are.
Thanks will get them checked
Amazing detailed review thank you.
Good practical advice. These are big cars, longer than most standard garages, so budget for an extension.
The Spirit is the best value entry into RR ownership and a decent one does drive very nicely.
Thanks for your comments i remember when i was a kid my dad had to remove a row of bricks from the inner leaf so that his back bumper would reverse into it so that the front gate would shut🤣joys of buying the spur slightly longer than the spirit.
Thanks for a very informative and detailed video on what to look out for! I’ll be taking all your tips with me when a view a couple of spirits soon.
No problem mate glad they helped and good luck with your purchase.
@@raenzoperformance9600 Do you offer a RR car inspection service? I’ve see two spirits in the Midlands but I live in Norfolk, and I’m no expert!
@@markrichmond7971 hi mate unfortunately i dont but you can always get a rac inspection.if you email me the details of both cars id be happy to take a look at them.
@@raenzoperformance9600 where do I find your email please?
Great video👍
Thanks bud
Hey Pav, new to your channel and very impressed at the tips for newbies like myself. I am currently searching for my own Spirit, a 60th present to myself - always wanted one. They were brand new in showrooms when I lived in the UK, but I'm "home" in Australia now. Glad I watched your thorough overview, thanks!!
Hi Mark thanks for your comment im glad its helped in someway stay tuned i have more rolls royce videos on the way and i hope you find yourself a nice example im sure they cost alot more in Australia but ill tell you one thing you wont be disappointed ive been driving them since i was 15 and i must say they are a completely different driving experience and ive driven alot of cars but nothing is quite like a rolls. All the best any questions just ask
@@raenzoperformance9600 Thank you mate! I look forward to more R-R videos very much, very informative. Cost here in Australia is roughly the same, but our offerings seem "tired" and ill-cared-for compared to examples in England. I have been a passenger in a Spirit, but never the driver. Airport Transfers in Hong Kong to/from the Peninsular Hotel as you would know, is via the signature Green Rolls-Royces, they are much newer models now of course, but this was back in the 80s/90s when I traveled for work haha. I am excited for the journey mate, thank you again!
Hey mate, Mark in Aus here again...I wonder if you know whether the Spirits have side intrusion bars installed in the doors? Considering bringing one in from UK, but intrusion bars are mandatory. Cheers mate! 👍
@@markhooper1352 hi mate hope your well good luck hope you find a nice one and yes the doors do have intrusion protection fitted in the doors if you email me i can send u a description document which confirms alot of helpful detail on the rolls royce silver spirit.
@@raenzoperformance9600 Thank you for your advice re the intrusion bars mate! Do you happen to know if the intrusion bars are also fitted to the Shadow I and/or II ? Looking at Spirits, but a couple of Shadows have caught my eye also.
Very informative, well done good enjoyable video, keep it up.
Thanks alot for your support
Great video. Interesting to watch and it would be extremely helpful if I was going to buy one of these. Definitely some pro tips
Thanks glad you enjoyed it
This is a good Rolls Royce silver spirit to drive....mine is a 1981 model and it drives really well...
Thanks pal i grew up driving my dads 82 spirit and it was a pleasure to drive but sometimes cold starts took a few cranks 🤣
Very good advice and review, these cars are fabulous to drive and to look at, the issue of the spring cups was well explained and an important item on the car that can cause problems.
The other issue to look out for is brake pipes, can fail without any warning so double check especially on older models.
Head gasket replacement expensive, and once again can go with little or no warning, any car with over 60k miles, service/maintenance history needs to be checked for this issue.
Flying Spares are a great team and more than helpful for parts and advice.
Thanks for this, very well done video, keep up the good work.
Hi mate thanks for watching and your positive feedback and yes agreed with the brake pipes had to make a few of them over the years i was meant to add the bit about the service history but forgot😂 got more rolls videos coming through so stay tuned.
@@raenzoperformance9600 Welcome, keep up the great work!
What a stunning car!
Thanks so much
I was 16 when I snapped this image, 62 now
Wow amazing
First I absolutely love that color
Thanks it is a lovely colour.
If the mascot is lifted and the plate pushed down it will release and drop into the grill sometimes just moving the mascot to the side will drop it down its a safety device to stop injury i believe. You can buy a lockable cover for it from flyingspares.com for 125 quid so once the mascot has dropped into the grill the cover will fit onto the recess in the grill and lock it. I used to have one on a rr i had with a everflex roof but sold that car years ago
Thanks mate will in touch i just bought a roll Royce silver spirit 2
No problem im sure you will love it taking mine for mot next week so might share my experience 😊
Just because it’s cheap now doesn’t change the fact that it’s an expensive brand and the parts and labour didn’t depreciate like the vehicle.
@@chrisjohnston4400 true
You’re dead right about head gasket failure on later cars. I have a 96 Spirit and head gaskets failed at about 60k during an MOT. Cost 6k to get repaired then they failed again, but were thankfully replaced under warranty. Now need some bodywork done as the wheel arches have started to bubble. Latest issue? … some idiot stole my spirit of ecstasy- refurbished replacement a mere £650 +vat! Running one of these is uber expensive unless you’ve got the know-how/facilities to diy.
Yes unfortunately thats an issue with the newer cars they are a delight to drive that said performance is alot better than the older cars more refined drive but yes like you say the badge does hold a premium when it comes to repairs that said if your slightly diy then they're not the hardest cars to work on
very good video very informative will go through a few more soon , is that your name Raenzo ?
Thanks mate my name is Pav
Do you know how to release the bonnet mascot. If it can be done without access to the car then its not much security. Also where could i buy a locking cover?
Review the 89 silver spur
Nice car it needs a engine bay detailing, an overall detailing.
What outside colour does it have?
Outside colour is cotswold beige
I have a 1989 Spirit l. I'm having a hard time trying to find an ignition key. What I've been told it's a 62HF. I've bought 2 different brands and they are both a little bit short and will not start the car. Any recommendations?
Hi mate i believe it is a 62hf but once i lost the key to my dads 82 spirit so i removed the ignition module and took it to panick keys in Wolverhampton and the chap made me a key using the barrel very experienced chap but that was a few years ago not sure if the chap still works there i will put up there number in my next comment also if you watch the speedometer fix video i explain how to remove the facia then u can remove the ignition module complete.
01902495666panick keys Wolverhampton
Hi man, cool, could you please make a similar video for Rolls Royce silver seraph too ? Thanks in advance.
Hi mate thanks for watching if i can get my hands on one i will defo. But i will say i did own a seraph for about 5 years it was a nice car it has all the bmw running gear the 5.4 engine shares the characteristics of the 7 series i had a few issues with mine so i moved it on so wasnt the best experience they suffer coil pack failing quite often and the battery sitiation isnt great it had 2 batteries starter and auxillary if one is a little low it will fail to start, the system is to prevent no start situations but due to the setup being not so thought out it suffers some issues i have been left on fuel station car parks waiting hours for it to suddenly change its mind and start up. Might have just been mine wasnt great but just sharing my experience overall the drive isnt great either there quite heavy to drive but if you can find a nice one with a good warranty give it a go all the best
Excellent video and honest apionan 😂
Thankyou
GM TH400 rebuild for 3000GBP? You should save 2000GBP if you remove it from the car and tell them it's for a Chevy
Yeh true 3k would be like a specialist doing the job theres always a cheaper job available but that depends on how you want to do it.
how much roughly would your car be worth?
Hi my cars not a show stunner but a presentable daily i would say between 10 and 12 000 gbp
Usually get ticking until oil is up ???
No not really should really tick could be adjustment
Good video, nice car
Thanks glad you enjoyed it.
Helpful review but there is lots this review doesn't cover.Tapping on cold start for up to 2 or 5 minutes can be the brake pumps until up to pressure that sounds like lifters & is normal . Best model years are 20000 series Between 1987- 89. 1990 & newer are much more complicated & have lots more that costs LOTS to fix when things go wrong. Alarm system battery & ecu failure, Air bag clock springs & seat belt sensors in later cars, Active ride & Climate control systems that require a Rolls-Royce "Test box" to analyse any problems. 1990 & newer wiring diagram is 3 times the size of 1989 & back should tell you something .1989 has lots of things that can be fixed or repaired as they are more analog. 1994 & newer Zytek F.I. is not as easy to work on or as reliable as Bosch CIS. 1997 & newer suffer fuel rail "O" ring failure that will ruin your wallet & this issue is not IF it will happen but WHEN. Newer cars just have WAY too much electronics & other issues. I've had 6 SZ since 2000 & my 89 Bentley Turbo RL is by far my favorite. Do LOTS or homework before purchase. These are a wonderful special cars just don't get a neglected POS! Sorry to have gone on so long! Good luck. Terry in Canada.
Here's a helpful RR utube to watch ua-cam.com/video/gVxSisyzT3o/v-deo.html
what area do you live please ?
I live in wolverhampton
@@raenzoperformance9600 to far for me to pop round lol , i live in Surrey
@@billblythe3823 thats a shame do you own a silver spirit
@@raenzoperformance9600 no mate ive always wanted one ive got a Merc c280 , but listening to you and watching a few videos it looks like i would have to layout about 20 grand for a decent one
@@billblythe3823 ok.. i would say north of 10k for a decent one 20k should buy you stunner ive owned a few mercs and still do but you will be suprised how nice the rolls is different car altogether.
Cotswold Beige in 1988 would have been incredibly rare but possible. The paint in unobtainable but this is not a 1988 spec car. Rodents have been at this car and that includes the channel owner.
Check the reg online its a 1988 but then from the sound of it you must be the oracle and you know more and yes your right rodents have been at the owner now because i smell a rat a big one thats just left the comment above.
@@raenzoperformance9600 I've spent many years within the official Rolls-Royce/Bentley network and was technical manager for the world's only ever appointed coachbuilder where often had 90 cars with us at any one time. That role took me across the world so yes, I do know quite a bit about them. Oh, I also own four Crewe built cars currently.
The date of registration does not relate to the spec of the car. The 1988 spec car is released in 1987, 1990 spec cars (Spirit II) were released in 1989. Your car lacks some of the details of the upgraded 1988 car. Cars were ordered months in advance so delivery of an earlier spec car can easily take place in the next year registration. Some orders were cancelled meaning the dealer would still be obliged to take the car that they would then have to find a buyer for, that's a difficult sell if later spec cars have been released because who would want the older one?
@@raenzoperformance9600 The date of registration has nothing to do with the model specification.
Silver sprit/spur were badly made rust buckets unfortunatly.
No offense but rubbing your hands all over the car is scratching it.
Ive bought over 50 cars in my life time and never have i ever heard anyone tell me that my rubbing my hand over a car i will scratch it.. if thats case dont wash your car the sponge will scratch iy
Bentley and Rolls paint is very soft. Rub your finger on a panel and you will see it scratch. Just saying man. I don't use a sponge to wash my cars.
That why people who have show cars don't let people touch them with their hands.
Ok mate thanks
@Raenzo Preformance The name of the car spells Rolls-Royce
Ma786sai Dua really most useful. Mine is an early Mark 1 1982 Spirit. The unbridled joy the pure ecstasy this marque so effortlessly grants its fortunate owner is something that no other marque, no matter how hallowed can ever ever match.
So true and so very well said
@@raenzoperformance9600 Ma786SaiDua do you believe the very low recommended tyre pressure of 24 28 psi is ok today?
Ma786sai dua great
Thanks