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00:00 Intro
01:02 'Traditional', 'beautiful' & 'age gap'?
05:20 Where is more 'traditional'?
05:55 Follow the money
06:36 Reality of age gap
09:17 Obesity in Ukraine
11:19 Scams & manipulation
13:28 What women go to the a matchmaker?
16:08 No more Ukrainian brides?
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Some of these are based in United States of America. I'm an American! Glad you address this. Good report!
i wonder how many men really want a "traditional woman" vs a woman that is just more tolerant for minor flaws and unlikely to divorce .
Ukrainian (and Russian) divorce rates are higher than in North America. They should ignore the region and head to South East Asia instead.
To paraphrase P.T. Barnum: There's one born every minute. And there are always predators out there trying to take advantage of it.
With social media and dating apps women have more options than ever. Men dont have the same options unless your in the top 5-10% of men in looks money and status
In some ways yes Slavic culture is more traditional depending on how you use the term. For instance they are very classy dressers who don't dress in an oversexualized manner. However in other ways this part of the world is more modern, more secular than many western places like USA. For instance divorce and abortion and they aren't as religious.
I believe in tradition and think that we should listen to the wisdom of the past and even learn from the mistakes of the past. However there's very little actual traditionalism in Ukraine and even less in russia imo. russia has unbelievable stats. It's not the land of the tsars but a post soviet void.
I think the term "traditional" Ukrainian women has long been a misnomer or at least misunderstood. Yes, Ukrainian women are very feminine and family oriented, but they are also educated, cultured and hard working (in a career sense, although not necessarily career-oriented in a Western sense). So they will prioritize their feminine (and home-maker) qualities, but still have the desirable qualities of modern women (education, worldliness, financial contribution, AND sexually emancipated). Plus, as you say, the divorce rate is very high, as it has been for at least the 30 years I have been coming to Ukraine (I have heard an interesting explanation for that).
To my mind, these women are the best of both worlds, feminine on the outside, yet strong on the inside. Plus, most the women I have met in the past 10 years are also contributing a lot to society - engaged in volunteer or community work, or hustling hard to build a business. These women are just amazing! So if any farmer from Wisconsin thinks he bring one of these girls to his hick town, he is in for a big surprise. Kyiv is a more dynamic environment than most North American cities, outside of New York or LA or (maybe) other Top 10 cities. Sure, there are a lot of crappy small cities in Ukraine, but that is also true in the US and Canada.
And if the girl isn't happy in Ukraine, then she can find happiness and an enticing lifestyle in Europe a lot easier than in the US.
Honestly the average western man could not afford the services and prices to bring arranged marriages to USA. It’s also extremely risky. Most foreign women regardless of where they are from are passport/citizenship chasers. You would be better off finding local women. Unless you want yo live in foreign country and it is in Eastern Europe or something, then sure. I would stay clear of foreign women unless they have citizenship to my country and live in my area. Other than that it’s a hard pass for me.
You said to move to Latvia could be a good choice. I don't know the country, but I heard that there are lot of crimes and organized Russian crimes.
The center of Riga seems pretty safe. I’ve been on 6 trips there in the last year.
No Ukrainian women aren't that traditional nor are Russian women just go to Turkey or Egypt in the summer months most are social climbers many Ukrainian young women from the Eastern oblasts and even from Odessa and kiev used to go to Moscow's top nightclubs and look for her Forbes that is a term given to young women looking for rich Russian men
“Mr Forbes” - I like the sound of that 😃
If women of Ukraine were traditional they wouldn't have run away from their homeland like cowards during a crisis.
I support those who remained to fight but their culture is clearly flawed and not to be idolised.
For those that dont know Ukraine is a sex hotspot. Traditional girls? lol.
They are in the countryside
Conor, I would like to have 10+ kids with Polish or UKR girl. What are the chances I can get 10 kids out of one of these girls (asking seriously)?
The fertility rate in Ukraine was 1.2 in 2021 and you’re asking about the likelihood of having 10 kids here!? 😂 You need to be heading to Niger; it’s 6.6 there. 👍🏻
@@ConorClyneTsarExperience Thanks for the response, but I don't wanna be dodging bullets so, no thanks.
Traditional desperate men get exploited. Just go out and find a nice
girl at home. Have some standards, self respect, and be kind. You will
find someone! Don’t be afraid to date someone your own age. You are
a good catch someone your own age could be a good catch too and have more money then you! You could be the arm candy, trophy boy friend, getting spoiled. I am just trying to say find happiness don’t get exploited.
Is it true that slavic women age very bad (beauty wise) after 35?
Depends. Many drink and smoke.
Good question. In the dating websites the ones over 30 Im surprised to see most majority look very old for their age !!!!! Guess the whiter the older they look in Ukraine, Russia , Bielorusia etc ... if they are in tbeir 40s they look like 55 .
@@josephluis2024Majority of Ukrainian women get married before age 30, so majority of beautiful women happily married in age 30.
Soviet women eat to much, so they look not beautiful after age 30.
Now women who grow up in independent Ukraine have much healthier behaviour and look beautiful after age 30 and 40.
Meh. Joe pushes older Ukrainian women that probably ARE more "traditional", whatever that means. The Ukrainians that you and I engage with are much more enlightened IMHO. I do 90% of the cooking, but there are still echoes of tradition like their desire to stay in their feminine. I will say that when I talked with his team, they were very against an age gap over 10 years, even when my American ex was 6 years younger, relatively traditional, and very high on the beauty wheel. His target audience is not going to fish in the same pond, but there are plenty of those guys in the West!
Exactly, there are plenty of frustrated guys in North America seeking what he’s pitching. I don’t think this is the best region for that compared to South East Asia and Latin America.
Even though the gap with his own wife is 20 years.🙄
@@GaryAJMartin he lived in Ukraine for many years before meeting her … how many wife hunters are willing to live under regular rocket attack to find a wife realistically? 🤔
@@ConorClyneTsarExperience Yes, that’s true. I think he said he dated a 100 women, or something like that before he met his wife. And that was before the current conflict. I doubt he would have stayed around too long looking for a woman, if this conflict had started years ago.
Personally, I would not have gone there either.
My Ukrainian wife cooks and cleans and washes my clothes. I’m from the Midwest too. She is so fine even women just stare at her when we are out. Stopped with her at a truck stop in Indiana once. The reactions were hilarious; I should have filmed it. She got a Master’s degree and speaks multiple languages. He is totally right about how Ukrainian woman live in Ukraine. They love the city life. If you lived on a farm they would be miserable. They like Chicago and trips to Miami and Hawaii 😂. Mine thinks New York is an outdated s**thole. She thinks Kyiv is a better place to live even during the war. The entire United States is becoming a s**thole in my opinion. I want to leave in the future. Don’t want to end up like Gonzalo though 🙈
How to even compare?
Kyiv is fine for what it is. A little city.
I’m in New York right now., and it’s unique. It certainly has many flaws, but has a vibe that I have never experienced any where else.
And I’m not American, but I don’t just choose somewhere from where I was born, boring. She is Ukrainian and chooses Kyiv, shocker.
Yeah I agree. I personally would recommend moving to Omsk or Chelyebinsk.
According to world economic forum, there are 300,000 more women in Ukraine between the age of 24 to 54 than men of the same age. That is a lot of single ladies. All my ex girlfriends were 15 to 25 years younger than me. God bless America!!
Please provide a source to this data. I cited the graph in my video showing that up until 35 y.o. there are more men than women in Ukraine. With the 2022 invasion way more single women left Ukraine than single men so that under 35 demographic became even more male. However, in the last year that imbalance has corrected itself a bit.
@@ConorClyneTsarExperience index Mundix Ukraine has about 300,000 more women between the age of 25 to 55 than men. Belarus has 50,000 more women in the same range. Italy has also 300,000 more women between the age of 25 to 55, Japan has 1,000,000 more women in the same age range more than men the big winner is Russia with over one million more women than men between the age of 25 to 55. Any other countries on this planet has more men that women only old ladies are a lot every where
I very much doubt it .. WEF screwed up.
@@user-bn4le2yf8r from your source in 2021: “25-54 years: 0.97 male(s)/female” which means slightly more women (3 percentage points). Again it’s more female over 35 only. If you were to take 20-35 years, it would be more male by around the same amount. Are you interested in under 35s or over 35s?
@@ConorClyneTsarExperiencea I think you look at the wrong place . According to Index Mundix
Ukraine age structure from 25 / 54 years old (male 9,456,905/female 9,718,758) that makes a difference of 262,000 more women than men.
The countries with more women than men on the planet on your area are.
Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus.
Is the real estate located at that place called unit.city in Ukraine?
No. Are you interested in real estate in Ukraine?
@@ConorClyneTsarExperience no, am not. Was just asking because I know of a Ukrainian film actor, and on many of his posts he states "unit.city" and on his social media profile it says he is a real estate person.
@@Icelandair_B767 that’s in Kyiv not Odesa
1:12 this guy