Bolt action military rifles are the most fun one fan have with a firearm. Working the action, the recoil, the sound and smell. These old rifles are an absolute blast to shoot. Literally
I'm guessing because of the weight and the way the barrel was moving when she pulled the trigger, she bounced her shot off the ground 6 ft in front of her target. That would cause a wry smile from me. 🙃
+ToastytheG I'm here because Ian shouted it out on his WW1 machine guns video. +The Great War should look into making a collaboration or something with +Forgotten Weapons
+C&Rsenal Great video! You can type pretty much anything in any language into google translate and get a decent example of pronounciation. Just throwing it in there, I'm not complaining, because it's not your native language.
laurensreinds Weirdly I KNOW the right way but my brain substitutes every time. It's basically becoming a running gag. Check out our FL Selbstlader episode for a laugh.
I need to admit this lady seems to be a more practiced shooter than many of my former collegues during my armyservice. shes not flinching and is holding the gun in a propper way. besides to this i want to thank you for the work youre doing with this show. i alredy knew alot about the war but i was still abled to learn a few knew things. thanks fot that refreshing and not worn out style of work :)
Griffin O'Brien Thinking of it being called Trench bound. It's supposed to be a series actually. Only it's set on the central powers side of the war. Thanks for asking.
The Great War and C&Rsenal made my day. I love collecting WWI and WWII military surplus rifles and handguns as well. They have a historical value, at least, to me, and they are so much fun to shoot at the range. Thank you for your awesome work. Cheers from snowy Switzerland.
+Maximilian Tay Glad you're enjoying them! Austria-Hungary is next. Then probably a lull so we can go on a field trip. Maybe a special feature after that though.
Dimitris Phoenix We keep them long over at our channel, but then again we know we're only keeping certain people after the 1st minute. Not exactly click bait.
C&Rsenal of course i understand that not all viewers have the same attention span,the only thing i can do is hope i am not in the minority and most people watch the whole video ;)
So cool! History come alive, very interesting and it helps you visualise how the soldiers lived (and died :c) and the problems they faced. I'd love to see more of these!
+Mr BigCookie Well we did France, German pistols are in the editing room, and Austria-Hungary is filming this weekend.... but it will be some time before the edited show is released.
Yay, Othais and Mae are back with more guns! Looking forward to seeing Britain, I've always loved the Enfield rifles, and as a Canadian, I'd love to see the Ross rifle as well. Please tell me you guys have access to some "classic" machine guns as well as the rifles, I'd love to see a breakdown of the Vickers and MG08, and I'd bet Mae wouldn't mind squeezing off a few rounds with either. :)
As a side note on the 98AZ, after the war when Poland gained its independence from Russia and Germany the Polish Govt copied the Mauser 98AZ at their armories.
+The Great War I love it! I'm a Turk and the Great War still is a defining time of my people, yet it is slightly ignored in importance compared to WW2. So thank you for bringing this important history back to light!
C&Rsenal Yeah most of the ottoman rifles in this time era where germans. But it would be very interesting to see how the ottoman rifles stack up compared to the european equivalents, especially as it is viewed as very much inferior in all aspects
Bilge Khan There were actually plenty of unique guns in the Ottoman inventory. The 1893 Mauser was the only one to ever have a magazine cut off! But during the 30's nearly 100% were converted to a standard pattern and rebarreled to 8mm. Only WWI battlefield prizes remain.
The 98 Action and the 3rd "safety" lug was added to the read of the bolt. Seldom needed but if the bore was obstructed it may well save you from having the bolt come back and strike your face. My personal collection includes "commission 88/14" rifle is one of the Turkish. There is a debate between shooters of the commission rifles here in the US as to using full power 7.92x57 IS < the I means Infantry and the S means Spitzer >ammunition as the bore of the 88 was nominal diameter .318inch and the 98 .323inch. Due to this many american ammunition makers use a .320inch bullet for the 8mm Mauser. Hand loaders will often use a cast lead bullet as seen in the video (often .321inch) at a lower pressure. Indy since you are in Sweden it might interest you that the Mauser company designed the primary rifle for Sweden as well ,the Model of 1894 Carbine and Model 1896 Rifle. They were produced by Mauser as well as Carl Gustafs and Husqvarna Vapenfabriks they are excellent rifles. My "match" rifle is a 1914 production M-1896 with fully adjustable rear sight. 1896 and 1894 are chambered in the 6.5x55 cartridge and is still a popular round for hunting in Europe and to a lesser extent in the United States to this day.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Mauser I am really enjoying the series.
+Edward Leachman Those rifles were throwing her around like crazy. She's still in that phase of shooting where she's like almost scared of the gun. She's not very deliberate or forceful with reloading or shooting, so she comes off rather clumsy and slow. It comes with experience, but it would have been nice to see someone who is really experienced with the mauser to show us how its done.
+Accostrophe I enjoyed the video and do not complain about her skills and abilities. She did better than I would, and maybe not as good as you, but I leave it at that.
+Accostrophe Mae has plenty of hours behind the bolt. She just doesn't have the upper body strength to reliably cycle EVERY old action so we settled on getting a standard shot of the ejection across all guns (except straight pulls) to standardize our setup. The 88's especially were binding on loading so she's applying roughly 30 lbs of force on those suckers as it is.
+C&Rsenal Makes sense, forgive my criticisms then. I meant nothing mean by it, Mae looks to be a fine shooter. I know how much force it takes to load those things as I have a few 88's myself, not to mention it's a pretty stout cartridge. I just usually see that kind of reaction with newer shooters, or ones who aren't super comfortable around those big bore rifles, I just sometimes forget that not everyone has the upper body strength it takes to man-handle those things. It does take A LOT of times to get used to them, hell it took me at least a few years before I could properly handle big rifles like that. I love your videos and do enjoy watching Mae shoot. Keep up the great work.
+Accostrophe Fair enough, I'm still not satisfied with my performance either. My shooting skills have improved but I agree with Othais. My upper body strength is still lacking and I do plan on addressing this immediately.
@@FFF034 no, the Kar98az has a smaller receiver. What we call small ring. The K98k is more like a shortened Gewehr 98 which both have a large ring receiver
Mauser designed his 98 rifle to withstand a pressure of 100,000 lbs psi The bolt design is still used today on the more exspensive and powerfull rifles. Very accurate, but as with all German designs was built with very close fitting parts, which unlike the 10 rd Lee Enfields did not need much dirt and mud to jam it. It's cock on opening and long bolt made it's rate of fire also slower. It made a wonderful sniper rifle though.
Awesome, as always. I actually found The Great War from Othais's channel, and not the other way around. My WW1 collection is small, but growing. I'm sad, though, that you didn't mention how brutal the k98az is in terms of noise and recoil.
+The Great War I've actually gotten a bunch of friends into both channels, and they've started donating. That makes me happy, since both of you have awesome content!
98k AZ Aufpflanz- und Zusammensetzvorrichtung, as mentioned in the video "Aufpflanzvorrichtung" meaning a device for mountin a bayonet and "Zusammensetzvorrichtung" meaning tool for "assembling/putting together"
I have a Erfurt 1917 Kar98az. It is a truly amazing rifle! Mine has a unit disc that is now illegible however I was told that they were never issued with one. Only with the hole through the stock to allow for disassembly of the bolt. I was told mine was slapped on later by somebody who didnt know any better and plugged up the hole. Makes sense because it was also modified to take a Lee enfield butt plate which I am not very happy about and on the the hunt for the plate that belongs to the rifle. Its a shame that its the only part that does not match, everything else is numbered and matched right down to the firing pin. Love your shows, keep them coming! Being that I have Portuguese descendants and heritage, could you please do an episode on Portuguese involvement and battles of the first world war :) Thank-you!
Very nicely done. My two favorite channels collaborating. A couple of very rudimentary things that stand out here. First, before I say anything more, I understand this video is old so, no, I am not going to talk about the quality of the video feed. However, Indy, you called Othais’s channel C Arsenal. It’s actually C&Rsenal. And Othais, the Gevar is the Swedish pronunciation of the Mauser Gewehr 88 & 98. Sorry to be petty but I noticed both of these things so I just figured I would Point it out rather than gravel all day and every day about how great these two channels are. Even though they are.
Very informative episode. Othais sure knows his stuff. I don't know who the girl is, but she sure looks like she's having fun shooting these old rifles.
Fun fact on the 98. A copy made in Czechoslovakia became the principle armament of the Iranian military before WW2 and was still in partial use in 79. Till this day they are still used as the "weapon of the day" and sometimes held by people leading prayers/speaking.
Early bird gets the worm eh guys.Your guys dedication is top notch.It is fantastic how The Great War has crossover episodes with other channels.Always look forward to the next episode and the way you guys interact with the viewers is much anticipated.Again thanks for the commitment and the history lessons.History has never been more fun and entertaining.Great stuff.
I understand that C&Rsenal are trying to organize getting in touch and film with a collector of WW1 era machine-guns and that's proving quite expensive and difficult, but I look forward to it! My only request is that these videos be a bit more of a to-and-fro between Indy & Flo and Lothias and May. I don't know how much of a Q&A it can realistically be, but I enjoyed the episode about French pistols and watching Indy and Flo's reaction to the ridiculousness of problems involved.
Rommel in his book "Infantry Battles", mentions the carbine carried by his mountain troops in the Italian campaign. He notes that the muzzle blast is substantial and the recoil sharp. But the men liked the carbine.
First off I just love your series and how big a commitment you guys are taking of going by WWI week by week! Secondly I'm wondering if the military academies tossed away most of the old pre-WWI military strategies tactics after they've been proven to be super costly in both time and men?
Jeremy Foss Not as much as I should but I try and hop no at least once a week. I'm helping them with... another phase of work... so I'll definitely be tied in for a while.
I wish some people could understand that's it's almost impossible to show every gun a country used in ww1 in detail. These guys do a great job, keep it up!
I swear during the shooting segments it seems as if they added a different sound effect over the original sound of the gun. Might just be the mic/camera though.
Awesome! I've been wanting this episode for so long. I had an eargasm when she fired the G98. I've always wanted that gun. Does anyone know what the typical price for one is?
The trick when using Gunbroker is look over listings that have ended, or at least remember that most bidding happens in the last hour of an auction. People that use Gunbroker for prices sometimes just scan current auctions, which means theyre always going to see lower prices than what most will actually sell for...
Hello! Having a personal interest in studying The Great War, I saw this video and heard of some very unique rifles used by the Swiss army throughout the war. The one I saw specifically online being called as Schmitt and Rubin with a pull action. Could you please if possible look into it with a video like with your ones on French and German rifles. Thanks for reading!
I'd like to see some videos showing play-by-plays of battles! You could have graphics and such showing the lines, the tactics used, etc. That'd be really awesome, I think.
I've had 3 Gewehr 88 rifles (AKA 88 Commission Rifles), all of them were set up to take the Mauser type stripper clip. I believe this was a post WW1 mod, but am not sure. Some were re-bored to the 7.9mm"S" and others were re-chambered but not re-bored to the "S" diameter bullet. Apparently the bullet architecture was designed to pass through the smaller bore with out raising pressures enough to destroy the weapon.
Mauser weapons are still one of the main hunting rifles in Austria besides Steyr weapons. Sometimes even such historical ones like those in the videos. They kind of had to use every kind of weapon after WW II since most of them got confiscated by the allies. So those kind of hunting rifles are still mostly used out of tradition. (new designs mostly look very similar to the old war weapons, besides carvings to make them a bit more beautiful)
Now that I think about it, can you guys ask about how the bayonet actually were attached to the gun? I only see a rail and nothing else to keep it in place. Also, how did you have to "link" those three rifles together to have them stay together and out of the muck?
great technical episode maybe if you get the support neded you can make some field trips to places where they still have some heavier weapons like Mashine guns and arty? Do such places even exist until today?
An interesting fact about the Gewehr 98 is, that its minimum sight range was 100m and sometimes the trenches were only 30 Meters apart. Thereby the soldiers sometimes had to aim for the stomach in order to hit the head. This problem was solved with a new sight on the carbine.
+Bov FX I think you have a few things messed up about your story. With a 100m zero, it shouldn't be hitting much more than 5cm or so high at 30m, if that. I did do some research and found that a lot of G98s had the minimum zero set at 400m, which could produce a larger discrepancy between the point of aim and point of impact at shorter ranges, but it could be mitigated by using the sight in a slightly different way, rather than having to aim at the stomach (which would be difficult if the other guy has most of his body hidden in a trench).
+C&Rsenal Yeah, most Enfield rifles look like they have been dragged through the muck and trenches of 2 world wars...oh wait they have! The Enfield seems to have been one of the favorite victims of DIY/Bubba gunsmith projects.
commissarpistols mostly it's that we're holding for a proper Mk III with the volleys and cut off intact. So many were upgraded in WWII and those parts lost. Plus an MLM and Mk I *** would be cool
My grandmother has one of those Mauser 88/05 rifles just sitting in her basement. It has the crescent and Ankara armory markings on it just like Othais said. As far as I can tell it still works. Is the Ammo hard to get?
i assume that with every new adaptation of rifles issued there wasn't a great hand in of old rifles . how many different shells was used at the same time and how do you make sure that you could more shells?
There is something I love about Bolt action Rifles.
+Danox94 Me too
I just like them for the fact that they are relatively cheap and very easy to maintain.
I agree.
I like how they emphasize every individual shot
Agreed
My key question for Mae: Why is it that she's smiling when she's shooting rifles, but not when shooting pistols?
pistols are inferior and doesnt hold the power than the rifle
Bolt action military rifles are the most fun one fan have with a firearm. Working the action, the recoil, the sound and smell. These old rifles are an absolute blast to shoot. Literally
I'm guessing because of the weight and the way the barrel was moving when she pulled the trigger, she bounced her shot off the ground 6 ft in front of her target. That would cause a wry smile from me. 🙃
3:40 the original M1 Garand
Germans: Making guns that go *"ping"* before it was cool.
I knew i heard that "ping" from somewhere else. Lol!
Ikr
When your life as been a lie for many years.
Ian from Forgotten Weapons also covers a lot of ww1 weapons and their users and manufacturers - if you have time check out his channel too!
+ToastytheG Agreed.
+saturdayocean Old habits die hard. It's OK though, I put that time into photography, disassembly, animation, contextual line drawings, and editing.
+ToastytheG I'm here because Ian shouted it out on his WW1 machine guns video. +The Great War should look into making a collaboration or something with +Forgotten Weapons
+C&Rsenal Great video! You can type pretty much anything in any
language into google translate and get a decent example of
pronounciation. Just throwing it in there, I'm not complaining, because it's not your native language.
laurensreinds
Weirdly I KNOW the right way but my brain substitutes every time. It's basically becoming a running gag. Check out our FL Selbstlader episode for a laugh.
I need to admit this lady seems to be a more practiced shooter than many of my former collegues during my armyservice. shes not flinching and is holding the gun in a propper way.
besides to this i want to thank you for the work youre doing with this show. i alredy knew alot about the war but i was still abled to learn a few knew things. thanks fot that refreshing and not worn out style of work :)
Thanks, and yes, Mae is a great shooter.
Not only did I get educated, I recorded sound effects for a short film I'm planning!
+gas mask chaplin what is the film called?
Griffin O'Brien Thinking of it being called Trench bound. It's supposed to be a series actually. Only it's set on the central powers side of the war. Thanks for asking.
Thank u for your service
The Great War and C&Rsenal made my day. I love collecting WWI and WWII military surplus rifles and handguns as well. They have a historical value, at least, to me, and they are so much fun to shoot at the range.
Thank you for your awesome work.
Cheers from snowy Switzerland.
+Neptune Bluez Glad you enjoyed it!
I have been waiting for this forever,thanks for the video guys!
+Maximilian Tay Sorry, it took a while but we wanted to make it extra special. So, it's a bit longer than usual and we tried out some new stuff.
+Maximilian Tay Glad you're enjoying them! Austria-Hungary is next. Then probably a lull so we can go on a field trip. Maybe a special feature after that though.
+C&Rsenal we dont(at least i dont) have problem with the length of the videos,the longer the better!!Great job,both of you
Dimitris Phoenix
We keep them long over at our channel, but then again we know we're only keeping certain people after the 1st minute.
Not exactly click bait.
C&Rsenal of course i understand that not all viewers have the same attention span,the only thing i can do is hope i am not in the minority and most people watch the whole video ;)
Very informative video. Always good to see Othias and Mae on this channel.
+Biker Jim Agreed.
So cool! History come alive, very interesting and it helps you visualise how the soldiers lived (and died :c) and the problems they faced. I'd love to see more of these!
+Mr BigCookie Well we did France, German pistols are in the editing room, and Austria-Hungary is filming this weekend.... but it will be some time before the edited show is released.
C&Rsenal NICE! Thanks for sharing! :D
Yay, Othais and Mae are back with more guns! Looking forward to seeing Britain, I've always loved the Enfield rifles, and as a Canadian, I'd love to see the Ross rifle as well.
Please tell me you guys have access to some "classic" machine guns as well as the rifles, I'd love to see a breakdown of the Vickers and MG08, and I'd bet Mae wouldn't mind squeezing off a few rounds with either. :)
+History Nerd We're in the middle of a fund raiser on our own channel for an MG trip.
+History Nerd I'm looking forward to the Russian rifles myself :)
They did the Ross on their channel
It was great, loved the hour long Ross documentary!
As a side note on the 98AZ, after the war when Poland gained its independence from Russia and Germany the Polish Govt copied the Mauser 98AZ at their armories.
the great war and forgotten weapons are legendary channels
Finally! Been waiting for this! Fantastic, as always. Thank you.
+Nastrael Rowe Glad you're enjoying it!
+Nastrael Rowe Sorry, it took a while but we wanted to make sure everything is fine.
I love those collab videos!
+David Jenni Thanks!
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!
always love watching this, so informative! keep it up!
+Bender B. Rodriguez Thanks!
God damnit,
It's pronounced
"Ge-ver"
yup, every time he says ge-war it's like a punch in the face, and i'm not even german
***** it's worse over at Iraq8888,
he says...wait for it....
"Gou 98" with a texan accent....
+Pauwsaurus Gou98?? for real? i'm gonna avoid that for now.
Pauwsaurus german letter "V" in German pronounced like Engish "F"
that's right, but you would still pronounce the word "gewehr" as ge-ver
RIP Battlefield 1. The game that introduced me to history and online gaming.
Omg finally for this episode, sorry for bugging you guys but it was worth it for me
+Bilge Khan We know that you guys love these episodes, so we are taking care that they turn out fine. Takes a bit longer, but we hope you like it.
+The Great War I love it! I'm a Turk and the Great War still is a defining time of my people, yet it is slightly ignored in importance compared to WW2. So thank you for bringing this important history back to light!
+Bilge Khan We'll be trying for some Ottoman rifles! They're extremely rare unfortunately but I'm working very hard to find them.
C&Rsenal Yeah most of the ottoman rifles in this time era where germans. But it would be very interesting to see how the ottoman rifles stack up compared to the european equivalents, especially as it is viewed as very much inferior in all aspects
Bilge Khan
There were actually plenty of unique guns in the Ottoman inventory. The 1893 Mauser was the only one to ever have a magazine cut off!
But during the 30's nearly 100% were converted to a standard pattern and rebarreled to 8mm. Only WWI battlefield prizes remain.
The 98 Action and the 3rd "safety" lug was added to the read of the bolt. Seldom needed but if the bore was obstructed it may well save you from having the bolt come back and strike your face.
My personal collection includes "commission 88/14" rifle is one of the Turkish.
There is a debate between shooters of the commission rifles here in the US as to using full power 7.92x57 IS < the I means Infantry and the S means Spitzer >ammunition as the bore of the 88 was nominal diameter .318inch and the 98 .323inch. Due to this many american ammunition makers use a .320inch bullet for the 8mm Mauser. Hand loaders will often use a cast lead bullet as seen in the video (often .321inch) at a lower pressure.
Indy since you are in Sweden it might interest you that the Mauser company designed the primary rifle for Sweden as well ,the Model of 1894 Carbine and Model 1896 Rifle.
They were produced by Mauser as well as Carl Gustafs and Husqvarna Vapenfabriks
they are excellent rifles. My "match" rifle is a 1914 production M-1896 with fully adjustable rear sight.
1896 and 1894 are chambered in the 6.5x55 cartridge and is still a popular round for hunting in Europe and to a lesser extent in the United States to this day.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Mauser
I am really enjoying the series.
I like her shooting smile. :-)
+Edward Leachman Those rifles were throwing her around like crazy. She's still in that phase of shooting where she's like almost scared of the gun. She's not very deliberate or forceful with reloading or shooting, so she comes off rather clumsy and slow. It comes with experience, but it would have been nice to see someone who is really experienced with the mauser to show us how its done.
+Accostrophe I enjoyed the video and do not complain about her skills and abilities. She did better than I would, and maybe not as good as you, but I leave it at that.
+Accostrophe Mae has plenty of hours behind the bolt. She just doesn't have the upper body strength to reliably cycle EVERY old action so we settled on getting a standard shot of the ejection across all guns (except straight pulls) to standardize our setup.
The 88's especially were binding on loading so she's applying roughly 30 lbs of force on those suckers as it is.
+C&Rsenal Makes sense, forgive my criticisms then. I meant nothing mean by it, Mae looks to be a fine shooter. I know how much force it takes to load those things as I have a few 88's myself, not to mention it's a pretty stout cartridge. I just usually see that kind of reaction with newer shooters, or ones who aren't super comfortable around those big bore rifles, I just sometimes forget that not everyone has the upper body strength it takes to man-handle those things. It does take A LOT of times to get used to them, hell it took me at least a few years before I could properly handle big rifles like that. I love your videos and do enjoy watching Mae shoot. Keep up the great work.
+Accostrophe Fair enough, I'm still not satisfied with my performance either. My shooting skills have improved but I agree with Othais. My upper body strength is still lacking and I do plan on addressing this immediately.
Ah the Kar 98. A gun for two wars. My favorite :D
Kar 98 az and k98k are not the same. Only similarity is it having the same action.
Kyle Schafer aren’t they both shortened gewher 98’s?
@@FFF034 no, the Kar98az has a smaller receiver. What we call small ring. The K98k is more like a shortened Gewehr 98 which both have a large ring receiver
Springfields were better.
@@philosopherpresident4896 why ?
i like german weapons
+Ionut Telegescu me too
+C&Rsenal where are you from
Ionut Telegescu
Charleston, SC
+C&Rsenal
That wasn't creepy.
SalmonberryTeaGameFilmHD meh, I am popular with all the armed people in town.
It would have been really cool to show the MP18 Bergmann submachinegun! Of course it's almost impossible to get your hands on one.
+Funny Farmer We'll try our best in the long run but today we were focusing on rifles!
Someone may be able to find the specs and 3D print it.
A good collaboration as always. :)
+demos113 Thanks.
Mauser designed his 98 rifle to withstand a pressure of 100,000 lbs psi The bolt design is still used today on the more exspensive and powerfull rifles. Very accurate, but as with all German designs was built with very close fitting parts, which unlike the 10 rd Lee Enfields did not need much dirt and mud to jam it. It's cock on opening and long bolt made it's rate of fire also slower. It made a wonderful sniper rifle though.
yay AWesome love these episodes so much!
+TheAmityboopfliction Thanks!
Awesome, as always. I actually found The Great War from Othais's channel, and not the other way around. My WW1 collection is small, but growing. I'm sad, though, that you didn't mention how brutal the k98az is in terms of noise and recoil.
+NuclearAlchemist You know we did on our own episode!
+C&Rsenal it's true.
+NuclearAlchemist Highly encourage the others to watch the individual episodes over on Othais' channel.
+The Great War I've actually gotten a bunch of friends into both channels, and they've started donating. That makes me happy, since both of you have awesome content!
Great job! This episode went more smoothly than the French firearm episodes. I'm looking forward to more of these.
+kenander45 We are getting practice. This was still filmed a bit ago so it's odd to see it releasing now when we've made further improvements!
+kenander45 And we still have some more improvements for the next one. Glad you liked it.
love your channel
+Jonny Banana Thanks.
98k AZ Aufpflanz- und Zusammensetzvorrichtung, as mentioned in the video "Aufpflanzvorrichtung" meaning a device for mountin a bayonet and "Zusammensetzvorrichtung" meaning tool for "assembling/putting together"
Don’t you love that “ping” noise? 3:40
I'm assuming Mae's shots are fantastic as always! Great vids!
+Yannick Oliveres I mean, she hit the paper...
C&Rsenal Lmao. :D
Love these videos, keep em coming.
+CullTheLivingFlower Will do, next live stream is going to be Sunday.
+CullTheLivingFlower On it. Come over to the channel for more!
I have a Erfurt 1917 Kar98az. It is a truly amazing rifle!
Mine has a unit disc that is now illegible however I was told that they were never issued with one. Only with the hole through the stock to allow for disassembly of the bolt. I was told mine was slapped on later by somebody who didnt know any better and plugged up the hole.
Makes sense because it was also modified to take a Lee enfield butt plate which I am not very happy about and on the the hunt for the plate that belongs to the rifle. Its a shame that its the only part that does not match, everything else is numbered and matched right down to the firing pin.
Love your shows, keep them coming!
Being that I have Portuguese descendants and heritage, could you please do an episode on Portuguese involvement and battles of the first world war :)
Thank-you!
I read somewhere that the German Army used the Mexican Mondragon rifle. Was that true? Could you talk about that rifle?
They did but unfortunately at $20,000+ a pop we don't have one.
C&Rsenal depends where but i mostly see them for 60k
Love these, keep it up :D
+Jeff Carver Oky Doky
I have fired a Mauser 98K and a British Enfield .303. They are not for the weak shouldered.
@Herbert Norkus they were manly men!
LOVE IT! thanks guys
+Ryan McConnell Thanks glad you liked it.
Doesn't Gewehr directly translate to gun? Quite an unoriginal naming scheme.
+Ceasius It actually translates to rifle.
Actually it means rifle, so it makes sense.
The Great War Interesting! I recognized it from Afrikaans, geweer, which means gun in general, but is interchangeable with rifle.
Gewehr means rifle in english. but i think gun means quite the same
No it's rifle. Gun has several meanings .
Very nicely done. My two favorite channels collaborating. A couple of very rudimentary things that stand out here. First, before I say anything more, I understand this video is old so, no, I am not going to talk about the quality of the video feed. However, Indy, you called Othais’s channel C Arsenal. It’s actually C&Rsenal. And Othais, the Gevar is the Swedish pronunciation of the Mauser Gewehr 88 & 98. Sorry to be petty but I noticed both of these things so I just figured I would Point it out rather than gravel all day and every day about how great these two channels are. Even though they are.
Very informative episode. Othais sure knows his stuff. I don't know who the girl is, but she sure looks like she's having fun shooting these old rifles.
+James Bongiovanni That's Mae. Come over to the channel where she gives her opinions etc.
+James Bongiovanni It's the best job :D
Great vids as always :)
+AmazingnoobFr Thanks!
I like that Gewehr 88 has an ejection seat button for the frickin cartridge. That is too funny for me, and yet it's effective.
Gewahr..? Now I know german can be tricky to pronounce but now you're just making up vowels.
Yeah. It's pronounced "Gev-ehr"
Lord Kaisertum of All Creation
Since when do Germans pronounce a W as a V...?
Peter Timowreef They don't,it just sounds that way kinda.
The german W sounds kinda like an english V and the german V sounds kinda like an english F... If that makes any sense.
gre8 True. Though I've always pronounced it sort of like a W with a dash of V,metaphorically speaking. Sounds more natural.
Fun fact on the 98.
A copy made in Czechoslovakia became the principle armament of the Iranian military before WW2 and was still in partial use in 79.
Till this day they are still used as the "weapon of the day" and sometimes held by people leading prayers/speaking.
+Jorvikson And over here in Germany some people still use it as hunting weapon.
+Jorvikson I actually own a beautiful 1309 Carbine. i.imgur.com/Nt5h8ln.jpg
+C&Rsenal Wow, that's a good looking gun!
The detail on it is in very good condition.
+Florian Haydn A lot of hunters use a rifle built on a 98 action here in the U.S. too. At lest in states that allow center fire rifles for hunting.
+Florian Haydn Rifles built on the 98 action are used by hunters here in the U.S. too. At lest in states that allow center fire rifles for hunting.
Othais is great.Best guest of The Great War.He knows his stuff.Great colaberation.
+ericswain70 We love him too.
Early bird gets the worm eh guys.Your guys dedication is top notch.It is fantastic how The Great War has crossover episodes with other channels.Always look forward to the next episode and the way you guys interact with the viewers is much anticipated.Again thanks for the commitment and the history lessons.History has never been more fun and entertaining.Great stuff.
ericswain70 Thanks, we are currently thinking about some more of these collaborations because they are fun for us too.
That lady seems to be having A LOT of fun. Always shooting with a big smile on her face
I use a Gewher 98, while hunting deer.
Nice
wow. 5 years ago. BTW, I probably should have said that it's a sporterized Gewher 98 that I got for cheap at a gun show around 2013 or so.
Very interesting. And just the right level of detail for a weapons newb like me.
Dont forget that the Sprinfield copy the Mauser action. Just to remember.
Oh, thank God! I was really worried we weren't going to get any more of this collaboration!
+Armageddon2077 Sorry that it took a while.
I understand that C&Rsenal are trying to organize getting in touch and film with a collector of WW1 era machine-guns and that's proving quite expensive and difficult, but I look forward to it!
My only request is that these videos be a bit more of a to-and-fro between Indy & Flo and Lothias and May. I don't know how much of a Q&A it can realistically be, but I enjoyed the episode about French pistols and watching Indy and Flo's reaction to the ridiculousness of problems involved.
+Armageddon2077 With Germany especially there are so many models I think time became a factor. So they opted for getting the mechanisms out.
+Armageddon2077 We will try to have that more streamlined and you will be able to watch the whole stream on Othais' channel soon.
I LOVE these specials!
+ThankzCaptainObvious Thanks!
Rommel in his book "Infantry Battles", mentions the carbine carried by his mountain troops in the Italian campaign. He notes that the muzzle blast is substantial and the recoil sharp. But the men liked the carbine.
First off I just love your series and how big a commitment you guys are taking of going by WWI week by week! Secondly I'm wondering if the military academies tossed away most of the old pre-WWI military strategies tactics after they've been proven to be super costly in both time and men?
C&Rsenal's channel is great, check it out! Thanks The Great War!
+Benjamin Kham d'aww!
+C&Rsenal othais, do you still play Verdun? getting a PC soon, and it would be an honor to go "over the top" with you!
Jeremy Foss
Not as much as I should but I try and hop no at least once a week. I'm helping them with... another phase of work... so I'll definitely be tied in for a while.
Do you have a MP 18 to demonstrate? It would be nice to see the first efficient SMG in action.
Haven't found one yet.
That M1888 actions makes the M91/30 look smooth as butter.
+NormanMatchem The biggest issue is an overly thick reproduction clip. The action would have been smoother otherwise.
@4:06 1110 mm is the length of the K 98, the Gewehr 98 is longer than that.
There's nothing hotter than a woman properly shooting a WWI era rifle.
lol
BigGator5 Was thinking the same
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@@manuelh.4147 nothing perverty about boning a rifle
I wish some people could understand that's it's almost impossible to show every gun a country used in ww1 in detail. These guys do a great job, keep it up!
Thanks! Mostly it's about being able to lay hands on everything at one time in one place.
I just love the Gewher 98 and the WWII Karabiner 98 for some reason...
Bolt action rifles are so awesome.
+LukeDaDuke Agreed! Although I am looking forward to shooting some full-autos soon :D
It's incredible how smooth the 98's action runs compared to the 88's.
+Rockyblack smith A big part of that is the over thick reproduction clip unfortunately.
I swear during the shooting segments it seems as if they added a different sound effect over the original sound of the gun. Might just be the mic/camera though.
I have 2 of these. one feom 1917 and one from 1918. Things shoot amazingly for being 100 years old. And kick pretty hard too.
Awesome! I've been wanting this episode for so long.
I had an eargasm when she fired the G98. I've always wanted that gun. Does anyone know what the typical price for one is?
+Ksgamer103 Whenever shopping I hit Gunbroker and check completed listings with bids for the past 90 days. Helps get a market sample.
+Ksgamer103 Sounds like an offer.... www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=G98
If I had to money I'd get it in a heartbeat.
The trick when using Gunbroker is look over listings that have ended, or at least remember that most bidding happens in the last hour of an auction.
People that use Gunbroker for prices sometimes just scan current auctions, which means theyre always going to see lower prices than what most will actually sell for...
cool stuff Indy with sub titles ty
Hello!
Having a personal interest in
studying The Great War, I saw this video and heard of some very unique rifles used by the Swiss army throughout the war. The one I saw specifically online being called as Schmitt and Rubin with a pull action. Could you please if possible look into it with a video like with your ones on French and German rifles.
Thanks for reading!
+~The Common Cliche~ If Othais can find these, we could do that for sure.
Can't wait for the British rifle episode.
I'd like to see some videos showing play-by-plays of battles! You could have graphics and such showing the lines, the tactics used, etc. That'd be really awesome, I think.
+acescouter1992 Well, if you give us the man power and money to do that next to our regular show, we will gladly start.
3:39 GARAND BEFORE GARAND!!!
10:55 I may or may not be in love.
Did the Kar. 88 see some action during ww1?
thanks for the help for my school notes for guns
Did they have left and right handed guns in WWI for soldiers to use?
No.
I've had 3 Gewehr 88 rifles (AKA 88 Commission Rifles), all of them were set up to take the Mauser type stripper clip. I believe this was a post WW1 mod, but am not sure. Some were re-bored to the 7.9mm"S" and others were re-chambered but not re-bored to the "S" diameter bullet. Apparently the bullet architecture was designed to pass through the smaller bore with out raising pressures enough to destroy the weapon.
+gene stauffer I Should have finished watching the video before commenting.
+gene stauffer rofl
I honestly think the Berthier is the most beautiful looking rifle of WW1
Someone please tell Indy: it's C-and-R-senal. C-and-Arsenal. C&R stands for Curio and Relic, and American legal classification of firearms.
+A3roboy Will tell him.
+The Great War But it's way more fun to hear it differently every time.
Mauser weapons are still one of the main hunting rifles in Austria besides Steyr weapons. Sometimes even such historical ones like those in the videos. They kind of had to use every kind of weapon after WW II since most of them got confiscated by the allies. So those kind of hunting rifles are still mostly used out of tradition. (new designs mostly look very similar to the old war weapons, besides carvings to make them a bit more beautiful)
+franzlimit Aren't there also new editions of the old rifles? Read something about an anniversary edition of the Gewehr98 for example.
Yes that's right, such rifles are quite popular for hunters here.
Just curious, at 0:55 when Othais said the "Mauser 71/84" on screen you put "Gewehr 71/84". Was this intentional?
+sharpie660 Mauser is the producer. Gewehr means Rifle.
Ah thank you for clarification.
3:40 perhaps this was an inspiration for John Garand?
Jay! Finally!
+ALEXANDER1318 Hooray!
Love this show
that chicky smile everytime she gets to blast the old guns -someones enjoying their job!!
+Ingmar Kofler YUP! :D
Fun fact: The K 98 is still in service in the german armed forces (Bundeswehr). It serves in the Wachbataillon for ceremonial purposes.
I hope you can talk about the Mondragon rifle - A Mexican semi-automatic rifle that ended up serving with the German flying corps.
+yaddar As soon as we can borrow one!
Great channel theme!
+Cpl. A. Gadway USMC Thanks
With the easily adjustable sights on the original rifle there, would they be easily jostled to a different distance by being fired repeatedly?
i wish to have a job like othais has
Now that I think about it, can you guys ask about how the bayonet actually were attached to the gun? I only see a rail and nothing else to keep it in place. Also, how did you have to "link" those three rifles together to have them stay together and out of the muck?
great technical episode maybe if you get the support neded you can make some field trips to places where they still have some heavier weapons like Mashine guns and arty? Do such places even exist until today?
+KonsulGando Definitely on our list.
An interesting fact about the Gewehr 98 is, that its minimum sight range was 100m and sometimes the trenches were only 30 Meters apart. Thereby the soldiers sometimes had to aim for the stomach in order to hit the head. This problem was solved with a new sight on the carbine.
+Bov FX I think you have a few things messed up about your story. With a 100m zero, it shouldn't be hitting much more than 5cm or so high at 30m, if that.
I did do some research and found that a lot of G98s had the minimum zero set at 400m, which could produce a larger discrepancy between the point of aim and point of impact at shorter ranges, but it could be mitigated by using the sight in a slightly different way, rather than having to aim at the stomach (which would be difficult if the other guy has most of his body hidden in a trench).
Regolith right, got the 100m and 400m messed up.
Difference in the bolt actions. Some seem to smooth, others rather rough
oh was that the reaon. Thanks. All these old rifles look so long compared to contemporary rifles.
I'm really looking forward to the British rifles.
+Cale Nancarrow We're working at it. Finding just the right examples is proving difficult.
+C&Rsenal Thanks for the reply.
+C&Rsenal Yeah, most Enfield rifles look like they have been dragged through the muck and trenches of 2 world wars...oh wait they have! The Enfield seems to have been one of the favorite victims of DIY/Bubba gunsmith projects.
commissarpistols
mostly it's that we're holding for a proper Mk III with the volleys and cut off intact. So many were upgraded in WWII and those parts lost.
Plus an MLM and Mk I *** would be cool
C&Rsenal It is hard to find a rifle with those still intact.
I want to see couple of you guys do the british mad minute
+Roberto Castro One day maybe.
My grandmother has one of those Mauser 88/05 rifles just sitting in her basement. It has the crescent and Ankara armory markings on it just like Othais said. As far as I can tell it still works. Is the Ammo hard to get?
+Ben Hanson If it is an 88/05 shouldn't be too hard. Original 88's require special ammo depending on the barrel markings.
Awesome video
i assume that with every new adaptation of rifles issued there wasn't a great hand in of old rifles . how many different shells was used at the same time and how do you make sure that you could more shells?
She didn't smile much using that K98k lol