I think this is a ploy from Activision to destroy blizzard and take all of their money. Do you have a partner and company that makes more money off of buying skins in cod may get backstab in the end. The perfect scapegoat
I can understand a company making shit games because they're disconnected. But when leadership in any business is this disconnected from their own employees there's something completely fucked up and people need to be fired. Nobody deserves this kind of treatment.
@@formicthearchdruid6763 That didn't make any sense whatsoever. Regardless, bliz ain't making a single good game anymore - Just try and give out an example.
No matter how many times I hear that poor woman's story it breaks my heart. Like god imagine starting a job with your dream company only for it to spiral into such a nightmare.
@@cryptowatcher5963 Dude. I can't imagine how much intense stress and anxiety she was suffering day to day that suicide is the only option you have. I hope whoever it was that drove her to this gets buried underneath a prison.
Hard to believe that, at one point in time, the late PC Gaming UA-cam legend that was John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain, was a devout supporter of Blizzard and a loyal hardcore gamer towards their Hearthstone digital collectable card game, ignoring the dangers of the lootbox gambling horrors we now see fully realized, a 'stupid man's tax' now made fit to also lure in naïve children and the likes, poor parenting though? *Makes you wonder what his thoughts of his former beloved game company would be beyond the grave, now that it's hit a boiling point as seen here?*
It's my understanding but she was having a sexual relationship with her boss and she sent him nudes is that accurate? The other version I've heard is that she was an unwilling victim and he was harassing her. I've heard it both ways.
i would say it depends on the context in wich it was used. if its used for one guy to just flash evryone with his dick, then yeah! he should be removed from the position he has. if people tell him to do stuff thats not related to his job, then its different :p
Last time someone pulled a 'do you know who I am?!' on me, I answered 'a collossal bellend. Next question?'. They stormed off to complain and were ignored by HR. Helps if you have a reputation of not being a massive twat, at least in the UK anyways
@@jarlsigurdstorvann9885 The only times "Do you know who I am?" can be used without sounding like a dickhead is if someone close to you has amnesia, or you're asking it to a younger person who you last saw when they were six.
Hard to believe that, at one point in time, the late PC Gaming UA-cam legend that was John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain, was a devout supporter of Blizzard and a loyal hardcore gamer towards their Hearthstone digital collectable card game, ignoring the dangers of the lootbox gambling horrors we now see fully realized, a 'stupid man's tax' now made fit to also lure in naïve children and the likes, poor parenting though? *Makes you wonder what his thoughts of his former beloved game company would be beyond the grave, now that it's hit a boiling point as seen here?*
What bothers me most is that this has clearly been happening for decades. I have been playing Blizzard games since my age was in the single digits. Knowing that I was playing games where the people who created them were being mistreated in this way even then.... it sickens me. I try to imagine how it must feel to get your dream job at a company like Blizzard and have it turn into a horrific mockery of everything you hoped for. To dread your alarm in the morning because it means you have to go into work for another day. I just wish there is something I could do to go back in time and make their day easier, or at least let them know that they weren't alone in this world. To think that someone took their own life and this may have contributed to it heavily, and that it DIDN'T STOP EVEN AFTER THAT... unconscionable.
For a regulatory agency to sue a company this way, they must have determined that the problem was systemic, and management was ultimately responsible. The State would not go after individuals this way. The company will be forced to change, and that will involve ridding itself of bad actors and creating, and enforcing, policies to mitigate such issues in future.
Very much this! 👆 For the most part companies are left to their own devices to determine an internal reporting and review system. It has to get REAL BAD in order for the government to step in and say.. "yeah, that's illegal". Blizzards claim that they wouldn't give the company updates on the ongoing investigation tells me that 1. They didn't want their informants retaliated against and 2. That they couldn't trust the individuals that had been elected to be their liasons. I work for a Large corporation, I can assure you it is absolutely possible to maintain a non toxic work environment where abuse/harassment is not tolerated
Yes, this. A regulatory agency would not have started the process, unless there was a REAL good darn reason to do so. With solid expected results and proof to do so.
I would agree with you on everything except for this: "The State would not go after individuals this way." The state would most definitely go after individuals this way. I've heard and seen worse stories, especially when money is involved. (If you're really interested in seeing how the state goes after people, look up the guy who they designated his land as a "wetland" and fined him into oblivion when highway construction blocked a drainage ditch near his property. He won in court using a geographical survey expert, but the EPA found a loophole to go after him anyway.)
More like the other way around huh? They failed their employees, which then snowballed into bad products, which then failed their community. Imagine. Big wigs go on vacation or game all day and their lackeys guys are picking on women and drinking all day. What kind of product can they produce with that kind of environment? This game is what people have been clinging to and hoping would get better and complaining about for years. No wonder they've been so out of touch. The bigotry here is amazing. This should have been exposed ages ago!
I wanted to work at Blizz as a young girl running around WoW. I feel so bad for all the other women who had their dream jobs turned into their worst nightmares. I hope the victims can move forward and find a company that wants them for their wonderful talented selves, and not to abuse their bodies.
I also wanted to work for Blizzard, but I unsubscribed from WoW when the Hong Kong fiasco happened. Never looked back. I knew they didn't care about human beings.
when i was younger as well i really wanted to be a concept artist for them. this entire thing is just crushing, i wish only the best for all of the victims, they deserve so so much better
I had female friends who did. Worked for bliz...nintendo... ect. It was horrid. I worked at Microsoft at age 19...back in 2002...but quit because of sexual harrassment. I had a rubberband shot into my behind and requests for 3 somes...etc. etc. etc.
Same here, I wanted to work in the cinematics division. That was my dream once. And having gone to several Blizzcons, the Blizzard people I met(not in executive positions) seemed like great people who were genuinely happy. Now, I question everything I thought I loved about Blizzard.
@@fantasymmorpgroleplayer8871 if they support China over Hong Kong, you know they have no morals, principles and would do anything to make a quick buck. Fuck Blizzard. It's time they died off.
it's oddly naive of bellular to believe the purpose of HR is to protect the employee. That's not the case I am aware of for ANY major company. HR is there to protect the company, every time.
HR is never looking out for the employee. They are only there to mitigate anything internally. I've never worked with a company where I felt the HR manager was "in my corner".
@@Rational_Driver I have, a couple times. Local companies, although they had corporate structures. Sometimes if the HR manager is a really good person who cares about people it can happen.
Your money went into the bonus of Bobby Koytick who is a billionair, let that sink in. That guy has billions on his account (I believe he has 2 billion or 4 billion, something like that), yet he has people fired while claiming his 200 million bonus (200 million is nothing when you own 4000 million), while he has a huge sexual scandal going on in his company and you can't tell me he didn't know. They always know, HR knows, but with big companies it's always the same. HR is just a system to check what employees are troublesome and should be terminated, they aren't there for the employees, they are there to hear complaints regarding the company and fuck the employee sideways. Bobby knew, but he ain't man enough to admit and will try to save his rat face.
@@dartheverstar9564 come join us in FF14. 😊 the contrast of how players feel there compared to WoW is big, and it’s continuing to grow in contrast. I’m glad I made FF my home and left WoW behind.
I truly think the leadership failed here. They need to be removed. It also does bring comfort that this has a huge lawsuit. I suspect California will come down hard on them and the hope is other companies wake up and change before the state makes them.
Makes me wonder what the new leadership will do? I mean, this scandal is on OUR radar tdoday, but the shareholders are the ones the new leadership would really need to please. What'll those shareholders make them do, considering how WoW has deteriorated over the last several years? I hope they don't overcompensate for all this anti-female sexism by creating de facto anti-male sexism. If they'd just promoted based on qualifications and experience and skills and that kind of thing, then more women would have power in Blizzard. If they decide to promote the females today that should've been promoted years ago, that'd be a good thing. But if they decide to promote only females going forward...it'll lead to the same competence problems they have now, where they picked a criteria OTHER than competence to decide who to promote! I sure hope they don't replace one kind of stupid with another kind...!
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@@longWriter pretty sure the share holders are mostly disconnected and don't really care as long as they make money. If memory served right only one of them paid some attention to the Devil Bobby Kotick's oversized salary and demand for even more money despite failing quarterly goal which resulted in over 100 jobs cut, and before that over 800 layoffs with a successful financial quarter.
@@Roamingfirebat I guess at least Cave Johnson never sexually harassed co-workers, err not sure if I had a point here except if Cave Johnson is somehow less evil than your boss despite subjecting employees to deeply scarring science experiments then something is seriously wrong with your company.
I'm a grown woman. I remember how once upon a time working for Blizzard was my dream. World of Warcraft was my main inspiration for drawing, sculpting, doing art. I loved it's style, I loved it's story, and I genuinely was even looking for ways how to increase my skills so I could work there.... I loved WoW so much I genuinely wanted to contribute and work there to make it as amazing as it can be... Now?... I'm genuinely glad I had a friend, who also played wow and wanted to work there once, who talked me out of it 3 years ago... Took off my rose tinted glasses. Hearing about this genuinely makes me feel disgusted... I'm lucky enough I didn't witness any of this at work (tho I was a victim of this in highschool a lot), but I still cannot imagine how these women employees feel... Especially how far was that woman, who committed suicide, pushed to finally end it all... I genuinely feel so sad and sorry for them, I do hope they find something better, that treat them well and with respect. As someone, who once dreamed of working for Blizzard.... Now I just want to see it burn to the ground. Either it burns and someone with passion and integrity picks it back up, or let it die, and not cause any more harm. This is genuinely disturbing....
I just finished my second year of university Animation course (one year left) with the plan of actually hoping to work at blizzard as an end goal. The past week I don't know what to do with my life anymore. I have been playing Warcraft 3 and wow and StarCraft all my life and now I feel like my whole life plan has just come to an end, no idea what to do anymore as it was my life plan. GG no Re I guess.
These allegations explain a lot actually. Playerbase frustrated for so long because Blizzard seemed detached from them. Turns out they were detached from humans in general. They turned into beasts.
Wow. I clicked on this thinking it was about abuse of workers i.e. burning them out. But this... Holy F. I already disliked Blizzard as far as their direction and decisions but this is on a another level. Glad I'm boycotting the company. HUGE feels going out for her family and friends. Hope justice is served against the perpetrators.
Hard to believe that, at one point in time, the late PC Gaming UA-cam legend that was John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain, was a devout supporter of Blizzard and a loyal hardcore gamer towards their Hearthstone digital collectable card game, ignoring the dangers of the lootbox gambling horrors we now see fully realized, a 'stupid man's tax' now made fit to also lure in naïve children and the likes, poor parenting though? *Makes you wonder what his thoughts of his former beloved game company would be beyond the grave, now that it's hit a boiling point as seen here?*
@@RngmonsterX Yeah I'm sure Blizzard doesn't care about the literal droves of people abandoning their games. Maybe if they weren't too busy sexually harassing their employees they'd notice.
Yeah, I stopped playing there games many months ago, and now I will not touch their products ever again. I just can't support such low lifes in any way.
@@robbytherob What subscription? A good game deserves a subscription. Shadowlands didn't even deserve it at half price before all this crap came to light.
Yeah, it's really the missing piece for me, it answers the main question I've had for two expansions now - how a game with apparently such a large budget can produce content so slow and so lackluster. I often joked that they have a woodchipper out back they dump our sub money into. I suspect this right here is our hypothetical woodchipper.
For real, I fall into the same things when I'm talking about a subject that hits as deeply as this does. Definitely not intended to make light of it or take it as anything other than serious, it's just... how do we make sense of something like this? Feel pretty blindsided by it.
Humans laugh because the other alternative is crying. But it's easy to tell the difference between nervous awkward laughter and finding something truly humorous. There is no humor in this video at all. Poor guy, what a huge ass of a video that absolutely had to be made.
@@Thwompcrew "Fool of themselves" Jesus Christ, let's use proper terminology. They're using power to utterly obliterate people who work with them. There is no excuse, prison should be the least they get.
@@laner.845 Bellular is still paying money to Blizz so, I think the only thing hard about this video is the stark hypocrisy it eexemplifies. Even after all this time, Bell is a slave to the Blizzard algorithm... on 2+ channels...
It was the men drinking at work, while the women worked those drunk men crawled under cubicles to harass the women-This is what the Bloomberg article said was in the lawsuit.
according to the article, approximately 20% of the workforce are women. the men were busy getting drunk whereas the women were given extra work and being harassed
@Sean Thompson Women are usually not in a position to drink on the job and sexually harass male employees. If that does happen it's an outlier. It certainly doesn't seem to be the case that it's happening at Blizzard. Is that specific enough for your little incel brain to process?
@@Dazen101 did you forget to read the last sentence? Was it too many words to read all at once? Imagine trying to find a defense for these "boys'" behavior...they resonate with you. smh
@@a_tired_dad Unfortunately, blizzard are making more money through wow now due to interaction with the cash shop then they did at the peak of the game.
Wanna know the thing that REALLY disgusts me about this? Even after the suicide of the one girl on the company trip the degenerates who are apart of this culture probably kept going about sexually harassing other people as if nothing happened. Reprehensible. 😡
@L M Don't sell women short - Pelosi, Whitmer, Waters and others are the equal of any male demagogue ruining things today. Corruption is a human defect.
The entire world needs a better reporting system for crime. Jessica Ladd did a six minute ted talk about one in 2016. I think the video is still up on youtube. Warning tho, it's uncomphy to listen to and mentions not consensual acts. I feel like the system could be used anywhere tho, and even weed out those false allegations that innocent people are so afraid of. Thanks for listening.
"Surely you don't get away with it just because you're 'one of the boys', right?" Bellular, you sweet summer child. The power of nepotism is always greater than you think.
Ppl in high positions are protected. HR and other managers will just look the other way, nobody ever wants to speak up or be a whistleblower. I've seen it myself firsthand several times.
@@sacrosby I can imagine trying to be a whistleblower is scary. It'd be one thing if you knew speaking up would result in some kind of positive change, even if it cost you your job/career, but when even that's in doubt...
@@vfaulkon happened in our company. The heads started rolling only after a few ex-employees exposed that behavior online on job platforms, but in the end only a few senior managers stepped down and that's it. Pretty sure they now have the same positions in a different company, maybe earn even more...
How depressing this is, but it is true. We need to put pressure on those who help these monsters get away with what they do. Stop lobbying and hood our government accountable.
I once dreamt of working for Blizzard but I changed my mind since getting in was hard and getting paid was a nightmare Now? I don't want to support them
I'm in the same boat. Growing up that was my dream. To work on the warcraft team. As I got older I realized how bad game dev work was. Then seeing it at blizzard killed it. But this just sickens me
Unfortunately this type of behaviour, perhaps not to this extreme, is present in every industry. You'd be hard pressed to find a woman who hasn't experienced sexual harassment or rape culture at school, work, in public, even at home. It's pervasive.
@@Eiptaem it definitely shouldn't be like that though and that's the problem. The other problem is all things considered it is worse in this industry than any other. Between fans and people that work in it.
After playing game since 2010 I finally unsubscribed from retail and classic, not only because game actually going downhill, but also because of what happened now. I loved this game,and still do,it was a huge part of my life, but as female player I feel kinda disgusted dedicating years of my life for this game. My thoughts go out to everyone affected.
I feel very sad about the women that took her life... The amount of pain and tourcher she must have experianced ... They turned her into a sex tool and passed her around ... They should be on trial tbh , and top management for that too cause they allowed it Such a sad ending for a human life..... ⚘
I have unstalled everything Blizzard since they started using dirty methods to apeal to LGBTQ turning ingame characters gay and stuff. Now when you think about it: Supports LGBTQ + allows and not punish harrassment/sexual advances/rape If Barak somehow finds away to survive this shit storm, he should be one of the best CEOs to ever live along with Jobs. I mean there is no way you can get out of this uneffected economcally atleast, not nowadays. I really don't want people to loss thier job, but if ActivisionBlizzard falls cause of this its gonna change whole AAA gaming to good
@@enchantress7928 actually no, you can look up numbers, since this shit started its dropping quite dramatic. i understand people love wow. but you know how you can help wow rn? cancel your sub let them feel concequences and then we might have another legion again
@@Jamie-gd2jx Nope, not true. Why should I cancel my sup? WoW is a very good game and there is nothing wrong with Blizzard or their games. The men or women who say that WoW is bad usually just think it's a good game, they just follow the streamers. A random WoW player, ''WoW is a good game'' a streamer says WoW is bad, the random WoW player again ''uhmm yea... WoW is... Wow is bad because my streamer says that...'' They just keep playing WoW only they say they don't play it on places like UA-cam, that's trolling in my eyes.... And another thing, I hear every xpack that WoW is dead but every new xpack millions of players are playing again.... hmmm strange. Don't be fooled by a few simple streamers who have their own opinion and try to impose it on others. Unfortunately, we live in a (left-wing woke) society where most people do not have their own opinion and do not think for themselves.
@@enchantress7928 you are so out of touch if you think this video is about bad expansions. We're talking about a woman who was bullied to death, about well known blizz devs who called their office the Cosby Suite due to rampant sexual abuse, not whatever political rant you've hamfisted in here. Yes, there are tons of people like you who will continue to play WoW and that's your right. But for plenty of people, this was the absolute last straw.
@@Maatkare I don`t care about the woman (i don`t know her) or about insite Blizzard, i only care about the games they make. What they do or do not in the office is not my problem. That are the facts.
Asmongold brought up a great point (and I'm paraphrasing here): there are going to be guys whose knee-jerk reaction will be to defend the accused because false accusations are scary as hell. But this isn't that scenario. This isn't a he-said-she-said thing between two individuals and these men *are not on your side* . This isn't something to rally behind the bros for. You, the player, have suffered from this, even if it isn't obvious. When social accountability goes out the window so does other accountability. So does professionalism and the product suffers. Etc. It's a domino affect at the end of which *you* lose. Look at Blizz's accountability to their own players in recent years. If that's how they treat the people giving them money is it really that much of a stretch to think this frat party of a company was a nightmare behind the scenes for historically repressed/targeted groups?
I am a huge proponent of the innocent until proven guilty mentality, and I have huge personal mistrust of government in general and California in particular. That said, the amount of detail in these allegations and the way they match up with the visible company culture have my knee-jerk reaction being to side against Blizzard. This explains a lot, fits in with so much, and is so readily believable. Plus, the companies deflections seem to have no substance to counter the allegations.
@@Skyblade12 Legally, in a court of law, I abso-fucking-lutely think "innocent until proven guilty" *has* to be enforced. The defendants should have every right to walk into that courtroom and expect a fair trial and you can't do that if the judge or jury immediately assume guilt. However, as far as what has been released to the public, I agree that everything just fits too perfectly to not be believed. I don't feel bad at all saying "In my opinion, they are guilty" because it's not going to convict anyone and the evidence has become overwhelming.
@@christinaify The problem there is that it leads to very unjust behavior. That’s literally what lynching is: extra legal mob justice. Most lynchings occurred after an incident like a theft or murder that rallied up townsfolk, blame was placed on an outsider, and mob justice dealt out. It is not “in a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty”, it is “you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law”. The court is the place where the proving must be done, not the only place where innocence is assumed. The court of public opinion can be easily swayed with a few statements, especially by someone with a large platform. I just hope for a speedy trial and a just outcome. And right now I think a just outcome is a good number of Activision Blizzard employees and management going to jail. So I am probably too biased to serve on that jury. But I will hope for that just outcome all the same.
@@Skyblade12 Agreed on many points. Also, there are just way too many pieces fitting together and they're not at all conspiratory - many verified ex-employees are confirming the story as well (people have fact-checked them already).
@@Lilybellmusic Agreed as well. It also matches a lot with the public persona they have presented over the years. “You think you want it, but you don’t”, for example. The refusal to listen, the smug dismissal of concerns and such, and their self glorying performances at Blizzcon, all point to a culture that would match these perfectly. But is that because I’m already against them and have a personal investment in it? That’s why I want a speedy trial and a just resolution. I think I’m right, but then, we all usually think that. What sucks is that this will take years to get to court, if it even does.
In all the years I've worked at companies, and stories I've heard personally, I've NEVER heard a good thing about HR. EVER. And I stay out of trouble. So it doesnt surprise me at all to hear that, once again, HR has failed to protect people when they needed it the most, and instead protected the business. Lowest of the low. I hope they get investigated and torn apart.
HR function is to protect the company from lawsuits by managing their human resources and keeping them in line. They failed the same way in this situation, but it is important to note that HR is not there to protect you, but rather to keep you harmless and productive to the company.
As someone has gotten a back massage at work followed with the comment “you shouldn’t be so tense” which made me more tense and uncomfortable because it was not asked for or wanted… it is more common than you think.
Counter perspective, I have a lot of anxiety and absolutely love when coworkers (who I’m GOOD friends/family with) come up and massage my shoulders and back. The “you shouldn’t be so tense” is them trying to make me feel more comfortable, and I absolutely appreciate and love them for that. It absolutely helps ME. I am not invalidating your opinion, but just giving an alternative perspective. In your case, they should know it’s inappropriate in your content. As they clearly don’t, be firm, don’t drop subtle hints that you’re uncomfortable. Simply let them know you don’t feel comfortable with them doing that. It’s not easy, but they could genuinely not understand that. The only way to tell if they’re genuine or manipulative with their intentions is to see if they stop when you ask them to. Be safe everyone.
Agreed. Its happened to my wife on two different occasions at two different workplaces in her past. When power structures are kept unchecked, these douchey male frat boys will run a-mock with their terrible behavior.
When all of this started yesterday our guild leader and his wife posted their thoughts on discord, after that they disbanded the guild and quit wow. now over 70 people have quit and my wife and I just unsubbed and deleted all of our toons. I guess this is the only way we as non business people can affect change.
I hope something would happen to Bobby but sadly I don't think it will as he is the CEO of Activsion and although Blizzard is a division of Activision called Activision Blizzard none of this will go back to Bobby, JAB and that HR lady on the other hand and everyone at Activision Blizzard their jobs are possibly on the line. If there is accusations against Activision itself that involve Bobby then he is screwed then again that's why they have fall guys beneath them like JAB.
While there is no doubt many names in that book that had knowledge of and/or participated in one or more crimes linked to Epstein, it is important to remember that being in that book does not mean automatically that they knew of or committed any of these crimes. Many of them never met Epstein even (tho, they would in that case most likely have had met G. Maxwell) Id say the CEO allowing this to happen, makes me unsurprised to see his name in Epstein’s book, not the other way around :) Similar to the phrase “not all trump supporters are racists, but all racists are trump supporters” if you get what Im sayin…
i mean we all knew they treated their employes like shit way before this, didnt you heard how they had wages so low they coulnt even afford cafeteria food or something among those words?
I understand there are good people in the company but the executives like Jay allowed it to go on for so long they're as guilty as Alex is and should be criminally charged. I also think this will give Swifty and the voice actor of Kael'thus a reason to take legal action against blizzard for damages
@@Roamingfirebat accusations of sexual misconduct that were i believe later proven false. As soon as accusations came out Swifty's npc was immediately removed. KT voice actor had every single line he did replaced almost instantly. Nice bit of Hypocrisy from Blizz when they were unproven accusations and this has been going on
This is the culture of the gaming community from Activision/blizzard through Ubisoft why isn't there a 0 tolerance policy on this shit. It's fucking disgusting and I for one believe where there's smoke there's fire. All these game companies need to be investigated at this point.
because being accused with sexual harassment needs to be proven and most victims feel uncomfortable sharing their horrible experiences, theres a lot of unreported rape/harassment cases, and also the accused life could be destroyed even if he was proven innocent
I can totally see this as being true. Gaming in general was always seen as a "boys club" until recently. Makes sense that game companies would be the same way.
@@saal0 boys club was a euphemism. But think about it like this. Think of some of the guys that you knew growing up that were hardcore gamers, and think about the type of working environment they would create as adults. If you look at it like that, it makes perfect sense that this is happening.
I've been a WoW player since 2005. I reacted the only way I could as a customer, because I find what's happening unbearable. I cancelled my account today.
Here's what I posted in my guild Discord: Due to the recent news about Blizzard and the allegations against women employees, I am making a personal protest and stopping my WoW account effective immediately. Coming from a law background, I recognize these are allegations and everyone should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. However, after reading articles and most of the submitted lawsuit this is the final straw for me. You will not be seeing me online moving forward playing Blizzard games until major changes are made.
I support your stand entirely. I'm skeptical that any amount of damage to WoW (financial or otherwise) would actually hurt the people that should be served justice in this matter, but it's still a damned good form of protest. I just hope that on top of this, the judicial branch will be able to smack down those as need smacking. I'm curious though and genuine question (not trying to catch you out), what changes (if Blizzard were to make them) would be enough for you to be willing to return?
@@JB-xl2jc That's a very fair question. I'll speak to what's happened to me with my own work recently. By trade I'm an investigator (wont share what I investigate obviously), and we have had a new CEO appointed for almost a year. He immediately divided a family like work environment through various tactics and brought in incredibly toxic managers. Many of my talented colleagues have been forced to find new positions simply because we couldn't emotionally handle the abuse. Light at the end of the tunnel: My job has a board of governors who appointed this individual. I personally took a stand, with a few others who were brave enough, and spoke out about the work environment that's been created. Interviews we conducted with all remaining employees and the results were the CEO being fired just last week, and others have been let go as well now. The Change I need to see: Those who have been named are either gone or will be gone shortly from Blizzard. They will have their day in court and should be concerned about their future. However, the executives in place that ALLOWED this type of culture and who didn't do ENOUGH to protect those impacted by assholes stepping way over the line, should be removed from their positions. Jay Allen Brack should be removed. JAB is weak. His leadership has left Blizzard as a husk of it's former self. That is what it will take for me to accept Blizzard Entertainment products again.
I used my last 8 hours of game time to unlock flying in Shadowlands. I couldn't even enjoy my time. I won't log in until . . .I may not log in again idk
In regards to the ongoing Case against Blizzard - States rarely take cases to court unless they are certain they will win. For a state that has only one year of budget surplus in over 10+ years (?) it really isn’t feasible to think that they would waste money on frivolous lawsuits against wealthy corporations.
yes and no. As a CA resident they have made examples of people and companies. They have solid evidence yes but this move by the state is more of a strong arm negotiating tactic to bring them back to mediation. I.E wielding the big stick. If A/B don't and take try to take this to court, this tactic also revolves around the discovery process in which court ordered investigation diving further into Items likely A/B does not want to be made public. for us for mere Warcraft nerds. Its the Alliance (mediation) and Horde (court discovery process) in a pincer attack against Sylvanas (A/B). Who she chooses to actually fight to minimize damages is where this comes into play.
The only reason CA even has a surplus is because of all the COVID cash the federal government has been handing out over the last year. CA is still woefully mismanaged and is still being bankrupted by public employee union pension obligations.
@@amcynic it puzzles me how people are more worried about the state than these women having to experience things like this. “Ok blizzard did that but did you know California is a shit state because of blah blah blah”
@@kosmosu2 Yeah this seems to be the case at least according to some legal channels like HOE law etch., not a uncommon tactic in other states as well. The state doesn't want to clean up your mess, they want you to fix your own problems. IF THEY have to clean up your mess, they will make your life a living hell.
Was it not the Activision employee who fucking killed herself? Why would you give Activision a free pass and act as if it's just the Blizzard portion is to blame? The entire tree is most likely rotten, Bobby Kotick was in Jeffrey Epstein's logs for Christ sake. Don't minimize this shit
@@astrophilosophe Not going to defend Bobby, but the Black Book isn't definitive evidence of anything. Its basically just a phone book that has the elites of society, but also like salon hairstylists and other businesses that he interacted with regularly.
I already quit, but as someone who always thought they would come back to wow every now and then, this is a deal breaker... after hearing about the person who took her own life on the work trip.... dear god, ive never been so disgusted by a company in my life. This use to be the same company i thought would be a dream job 10 years ago, now its just mind blowingly fucked up..
@@navajo237 His account name or any other factor does not discredit what he's saying. When studying an argument or viewpoint you should study what is being said, not the person behind it. Actually, unsubscribing does. Are you suggesting I should continue to pay a company that violently abuses their employees?? In my household they've lost 2 active players which is £20 per month, not a lot, but considering prior to this they lost 30% of their player base and have lost many more due to this scandal, yes, it impacts them. Anyone who financially supports this company might as well buy some slaves, beat their wives and set fire to their dogs. Clearly, they enjoy abuse.
@@enragedsun1826 Have a look at Hazelnutty Games, her video makes a great point at the end on why some should stay subbed. I personally haven't played in months, but I support the good eggs staying and trying to help improve the environment at least a little. This is partly Bellulars income, and until he's got a strong support of FFXIV players he can't make that switch just yet.
@@TheMistressMisery I respect Hazelnutty, but she's wrong on this. Good people have always been there, this still happened. We as women especially should stand up for each other more than for a gaming community, no matter how important that community is to her. She should stop giving Blizzard her money, so should Bellular, honestly.
This whole situation makes me want to eat excessive amounts of junk food, apply for a job at Blizzard, take a massive dump on the interview table and leave.
I was barely holding on, only subbing recently after not playing for a long time to play TBC classic... I'm done with that, going to spend my time elsewhere. These allegations just pushed it over the edge, they were bad and now they're just despicable. They don't give a single fuck
And the mere thought that that nonsense could've contributed to an innocent young woman taking her own life. My god. And it didn't even stop afterwards. How shameless could you be to attempt to prey on a woman, followed by her committing suicide... and then you go right on to prey on other women? Un-fucking-conscionable.
Imagine being a reputable UA-camr who is loyal to a game and helps promote the game for free for years and then gets frustrated with the idiots running the game and moves on to other games and then learns how insanely fucked up that company is. I really feel sorry for you Bellular and everyone else who helped promote this shitty company for so many years for free. They owe their community and fans a huge apology going forward and proof that things are changing for workers unless it's too late for them. I have a lot of female family and friends who work and I hope they never have to go through this kind of treatment in the work place or anywhere. Disgusting.
@@Phryguye It works both ways. Blizzard owes their community just as much as the other way around. Without them they wouldn't of been in the position they were. By allowing this behaviour to happen. They let everyone down. Not just their workers but also their fans and community and anyone who looked up to this company and their products.
@@ysonline blizzard owes the company nothing. It's just a company looking out for money like any other company is. They create stuff, you buy their product. That's it. You don't owe them and they dont owe you.
it warms my heart when I think about how the next generation of games might be made by game studios owned by people like Bellular who look at the Blizzard guys' behaviour and say "what the fuck??"
Shadowlands was the last expac I bought. I've been unsubbed for months now and never planning to buy anything blizzard related. Sorry, not sorry! Shame on you! Planning to buy FFXIV and play the hell out of it!
I got the complete edition yesterday and it was 60% off. Downloaded that quick and felt amazing. Now to find a goofball guild that takes nothing seriously and considers dying a badge of honor!! Lol.
Swifty: False allegations, gets attacked by Blizz no investigation Kael Voice actor: Same thing, no investigation 2 year investigation resulting in a law suit against Blizz: "Oh well we're gonna do a complete investigation and we're gonna look into xyz...."
Everything makes sense now about the state of the game. How can you turn out a quality product when your work environment is one of pain, fear, exploitation, and sexual violence. I said goodbye to WoW yesterday, a lifetime of memories and achievements, because I cannot even log in anymore knowing what I know about the culture that has produced what is now a largely soulless product. How can we expect Blizzard to respect the players when they don’t even respect their own staff. They should all go down.
I made the same, very difficult decision, after playing the game for over a decade. I simply can't live with myself, innocently playing a game I love, knowing that people were being horribly abused. I cancelled my subscription, and will just log in a few more times before it runs out to explain to my guildies, my friends, why I have to leave. I feel like Blizzard has stolen something from me. I feel sick. Longtime players like us should not be put in this position, and it goes without saying that such horrible, sexist behaviour does not fly! I don't care what industry you're in.
I made the same decision back in February when I realized wow is just a beta test. Honestly. You won't regret it. There really are better games out there and this just makes it easier to leave WoW for good. Uninstall the game.
@@johannilsson6395 I've been a hard core casual in FFXIV for a while. Something I've learned, in hindsight I suppose, is there's a lot covered in ARR that the stories build off of further on in the game. So, yea the pacing in ARR is a bit slow to say the least, but they're setting the stage and trying to give you a chance to learn the game and the story being told at the same time.
Sad thing is: This makes sense. I mean the products they have been releasing got progressively worse. There are massive delays. Out of touch statements. Interviews where Blizz tells people what they can ask, like some bloody dictator. Having shit like this behind the scenes fits like a glove.
@@donmab Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This all likely began when Blizzard began it's rise in fame with titles like Diablo and StarCraft. They've basically become a household name for most gamers born in the 90s to early 2000 and the fame has likely gone to their heads, despite the fact that the actual talent behind their most notable titles have been chased away along with the people who called them out and/or refused to tow the line.
Especially when you look at the quality of female characters, especially female costume design. Or lack luster female character creation. It's the saddest puzzle to watch all the pieces fall into place.
Holy shit I had no clue someone took their life, this is so beyond sad and disappointing wtf blizzard? How am I supposed to support a game ive been playing since I was a child after all of this 😭😭 rip
@@ionut-madalinnejloveanu6778 i am so sorry if i sound so insensitive here but i need to know about that female employee that took her own life, specifically whether there was any news that covered her death (i'm not in the US so i don't know how things worked in the US). Especially the gaming news media since she was an employee of Blizzard so it should made a buzz, and a big one at that because if this allegation is 100% truly proven as true in court then i shudder to think that Blizz have been covering this up to a disgusting degree. Again, sorry if i came out as insensitive but this is the one that nagged me the most in this entire lawsuit. Edit : it was an Activision employee, but i suppose since Actiblizz is now 1 entity this will also hit Blizz
@@hoshi314 you are most likely not going to find any trace of that incident as it would have been immediately damage controlled. (hence why the public has never really heard of it happening) Families and witnesses have most likely been paid off not to say anything since it will be damaging to the reputation of Activision/Bobby Kotick. IF the lawsuit makes it to court then the details would be made available and public.
The Blizzard that I fell in love with years ago is dead. I hung on to my memory of what they used to be and the games that they used to produce for too long. I uninstalled the blizzard launcher about four months ago and I’ve found other companies that deserve my time and money.
Unfortunately, even back in those days they were denying employment and abusing employees. Just look at the radical customisation differences between male and female models... they've never respected anyone, least of all women.
Thanks for making a video on the subject. This has been hard for sure. I chose to move on simply because I couldn't answer this following question: What does the company have to do, for me to no longer want to play their games? And that one line about that poor woman who couldn't go on, is well beyond that line in the sand. I get those of you who choose to continue, I'm not income based off of the games, I'm ok with it becoming a happy memory for me, so privileged to make the choice. I think you hit the head of the nail on this video. Goodluck my dude.
Some of the people envolved in this allegation have already left the company. And I don't think the majority of men, the whole 80 % of workers where being demeaning to the 20% of women. My point is I think the majority of people working there where probably the victims or just passive, and not the perpetrators.
@@paulogaspar8295 that’s usually the case. I’ve worked 12 years in tech and telecom and there’s a couple bad (sometimes really bad) people and the grand majority who won’t say a word. It’s an uphill fight. (Not an issue today where I work, but the stories I could te from previous places)
Seeing my mom and what she had to go through when she was harassed for years, the higher ups protect each other in this and will fight or brush it under the rug. Then say to the victim oh its just some fun don't take it so serious sort of thing. The higher ups know because they are all buds the person that was harassed feels just like a toy to be played with. I hope when it goes to court things will get justice and the bad actors are punished, that could go all the way up to the top. Time will only tell to see what or who is involved. I don't think playing devils advocate will help just understand there is a process and if its found that leadership is the problem then that could be it for the company as a whole. I feel for you man I know you love this game and company and I know that so many that work there have that as well. Its rough it really is and it maybe time to really move on. customers are feeling bad, employees are abused, its not looking good for anyone.
@@boothbytcd6011 I'm a 37 y/o woman who's worked every job from service industry to office jobs. I've been hit on, or spoken to/touched inappropriately at every single one of them. In my life, I have met TWO men I can fully trust, and neither of those 2 were family.
Can’t really make a great expansion or great games if all of your employees are too busy getting drunk not doing their job and letting other people do their job for them it really speaks volumes to the leader ship there and not just the higher-ups I mean where is Ian if there’s people on the wow team doing this? Isn’t it kind of the managers job to make sure people are doing their jobs? It’s no wonder they have problems making games
I'm sorry but People getting harrassed, rape, suicide, etc. Is a much bigger thing than your favorite game being bad. You're still gonna give them money every month and buy their expansion anyway, which is laughable imo
You also cannot make a good game, if you aren't directly thinking about how you make the game better, but rather what you have to do, to appease some arbitrary performance metric (sometimes based on personal opinions from superiors) and not get fired. Even if you deal with an underperforming employee, there are ways to deal with them appropriately, especially in a creative/UX environment your employee should not have to think about whether something that arguably would improve whatever they are working on, might get them fired. That's how you get a 30% drop in users. It's like they decided to shoot their own foot and then the other, both hands on their dick, because they think they have the biggest, and now they are crawling on their pelvis, which is not even close to suitable for locomotion, but they are too proud to amputate their legs and get replacements.
As a woman who's worked in male-dominated workplaces, even though I don't know anyone at Activision-Blizzard, I was not surprised. Sad and angry, yes. I imagine that not as many women as men were surprised in general.
This is an absolute disappointing. All of their management staff needs to be held accountable. Especially the guy at the top who gave Alex a minor slap on the wrist while knowing what was happening among many other things. They fostered a toxic culture and deserve everything that's coming to them. This is so heartbreaking for most of us who fell in love with this game. All of this is so fucked up. Thanks for speaking on this.
@@alkkoor3044 a place where cube crawls and passing nudes of staff around company Christmas parties is the norm. A work environment where women are harassed for being pregnant, where managers sexually harass their employees and women at the company stage an emergency meeting with JAB and nothing happens and he is free to continue his behaviour. This is absolutely a toxic working environment
@@alkkoor3044 A place where treating everyone with respect means absolutely nothing. inappropriate behavior is encouraged with no consequence. If you speak up about something horrible, nothing gets done. Unequal treatment, Men being favored over women even if they both have the same qualifications.
Case will get silenced now, Actizard will make Afrasiabi a "scapegoat", J.Allen Brack may resign, everything will be watered down within next few months. It's in our power and duty to show that company, how much we despise them by cancelling our subscriptions and cutting ties with that company once and for all. Those things were known to highest situated people in blizzard and if we won't cut the head, monster will survive. That's our duty, for that Woman, for Swifty, for Quinton Flynn, for Blitzchung, now or never.
That's not our duty. This is the duty of the people who's job is to investigate and give a fair punishment to these people. And unsubbing is going to create more suffering to the people who suffered in the company, including the women than it is to the already millionares who are the bosses. This is not as simple has just unsub. The only way to punish the already millionares that do this to women is to take from the personal wealth of this people, destroying the company will affect way more the families of the normal workers than it is of the people who did this.
Double check that. The crazy stalker represented *one* allegation against Flynn. His innocence of everything that's been alleged has not been proven, at all.
@@paulogaspar8295 the problem is here, the legal documents show its mostly going to be money they are seeking for reparations not putting the people responsible in jail or even fire them. So you have to vote with your wallet.
Take a tally of how many WoW Creators will let this stop their raid night and get back to me. I count only Madseason leaving, and he was leaving anyway before this so..
Nothing wouldn't surprise me from americans, their culture, ways, belief.. Corporations, companies, firms... Blizzard is long gone, lost, disconnected, hopeless and yeah fell down long before They've actually noticed any turmoil, problem ever happening...
If moreheim didn't know it's one of two things... either he's lying or he's completely awful at his job and what he does. And all evidence of his success points to the fact that he knows what he's doing..
@wowalinbie This has the same energy as "All woman cheat" or "I hate all men". Stop generalizing like a moron. Out of all my gamer friends max 10% of them are like that
@@parkerrazz you suck at reading he wasn't giving a reason for an excuse he was saying neckbeard men are prone to being bad around women. No one here is in disagreement stop trying to find someone to take your anger out on its stupid and a waste of time 😒
Its impressive how much Mike knows more due to his awareness of Blizzard, that you get more from his commentary of this than many of the other UA-camrs that have so far remarked on this.
Hearing this is the final straw. I am done with Blizzard. I've held on to my account for posterity and the idea that I would play again. No chance now.
I have heard the rumors of bad behavior at Blizzard, but this is horrible. The top leadership at the company has to go, no golden parachutes should be given.
The truly depressing thing is this is probably just the tip of the tip of the iceberg. I hope this opens the door for more women to come forward from all over the world.
The fact that they let Alex quietly leave with no repercussions to presumably keep acting the same way elsewhere, is emphatically not a point in Blizzard's favour.
Can we quit white knighting certain high ranking employees that have already left and acting like it's Activision or didn't start until Activision. One of them has a new company and possibly helped cultivate this environment. FFS.
We don't know yet or the reasons, so it's unfair to blast them yet until we have more information. It's a possibility that when they merged and Activision culture started getting into blizzard, they didn't have the power to stop it and left as they didn't want to be part of that culture. For example when Jeff Kaplin left Blizzard, his final paragraph on his goodbye letter read along the lines of 'I want to thank those that supported our game team and every game developer at the company' followed by a weird line about how not everything is what it seems to be. Everyone at the time commented on how that was weird, that he hadn't thanked the entire team which is the usual thing to do and he followed with a message which didn't make sense in the context. Its plausible, he saw what was going on, couldn't stop it and left as he didn't want to be part of that culture. Now its also plausible he was part of it but we don't know. It's also worth noting that prior to the merger where Activision took control, Blizzard was rated as one of the best places to work by there own employees and not one person has actually come out and said anything like this was happening prior to the merger, it's all after it. As its so bad at Activision that someone took there own life, its again plausible that it's Activision culture that caused it when they bought that culture over to Blizzard and Activision HR team is to blame for not stopping it. To end, we don't know if the old guard took part in it, ignored it or tried to stop it but was powerless as the control was in Activisions side and it was Activisions 'untouchsbles' being the main culprits. So we're not white Knighting them, we're just balancing the hate calls until we know more.
@@crompee You realize two people named are old guard right? RIGHT? (Brack 2006, Afraisaibi 2004?) The timing of the leavings (Kaplan and Afraisaibi) and Blizzard employees knew of this investigation. Morhaime was President during this time and left in 2018 right before the investigations started. So timings say they know. They saw it. They didn't even try to fix it. Some things go back pre-2013. Employees would get drunk and rummage through floors harassing female employees trying to actually do the work. It all adds up quite simply, the delays, the difficulty getting things done and deployed. The toxic, almost violent defending of "the old guard," including Morhaime and sadly Metzen has to stop. They were there when it happened. If they weren't part of it they turned a blind eye. They were in positions of power and sat on their hands.
@@crompee And I know from direct coms the toxicity was before then. Also directly know males that did not join in or stood against it were ridiculed, harassed themselves. Before you say "why didn't they leave?" I will say, a friend who has been there before 2008 has been trying to fix finances since the 2008 economic crash. They have tried finding other jobs but Blizzard hasn't been a shoe in since the early 2000s.
You can tell this video is serious because of the poor video and audio quality. That tells you that Bellular was so passionate about this topic, that he threw this video together himself with absolutely no idea how to operate his own camera and audio equipment.
@@Paveway-chan given his tendency to clickbait for views I can see it would be the case, but I digress. important topic regardless bellular's intentions
Blizzard "Asmongold and those like him are toxic and bad for our game" Also Blizzard "Cube Crawl!!!" "Well, she might get pregnant, promote the man" "Cosby Suite" Also Also Blizzard "How dare the State of California!!!!! They should have worked WITH us"
Dude, Bellular's whole income + the income of his employees depends on it. Of course he's continuing for the moment. Time will tell if he's working on something else.
@@x_voxelle_x dunno why you get on their case for this, asmon spoke out heavily about it, but his entire business is centered around it, and people who do play the game are not responsible for what happens at blizzard, get that out of your tiny little head right now, if you want to attack someone go to those truly responsible, you are 100% one of those guys who harrasses random blizz employees and streamers who play a blizz game, take ur baby rage and focus it on the ACTUAL culprit.
@@empi2597 Welp, it came full circle. Myself and others have warned Bellular and Taliesin about dedicating content to a corrupt company and here it is: Blizzard has officially discontinued working on anything amid allegations. Blizzard is shut down. Now these channels are forced to cover the case if they want any WoW content. Then, if they go back to playing after covering everything that was said and done, after months of Blizzard in court, they are gonna look even worse than they are already.
That was really good. Thank you. As depressing and awful as this is, though, I did get an actual laugh when you read the, ‘But I worship Gloria Steinem!” part. Nothing could sum up the empty platitudes vs the grotesque reality better. I fully expected him to end with, “Didn’t you see my rainbow pin?” When you talked about a new employee joining the company, seeing the leaders they’d admired, then the creepy reality, I thought of the women who joined, gamers themselves, believing they were part of this amazing team, only to realize they were prey, an amusement - that is brutal. It’s sad, but we can pick our path forward, and leave them where they belong - apparently in some dark corner of the Fifties.
The 1950s struck again. I saw how evil people were back then in a movie made by the Weinstein company. Thank god I live in modern California, a utopia coming about.
dunno if this has already been said.... but there's a difference between a rockstar mentality/lifestyle/whatever and a mentality that its acceptable to hit on coworkers, touch them inappropriately and joke about r*pe. Pretty sure these bruhs were entitled creeps before they hit gaming celebrity status. That being said, I appreciate you taking this situation seriously and commenting on it.
Exactly. And the whole ‘boys club’ mentality about gaming in general is so so pervasive. Look at how the players treat women. The whole nerd culture is rife with misogyny and has been for years. Women were ‘in gaming’ in a big way since the 70s. One of the biggest gaming companies in the 80s and 90s was co-founded by a woman. Acting like we’re ‘new’ to gaming is part of the problem. Acting like nerd things are for boys is part of the problem. It makes it hard for women to get in the industry, it makes it hard for women to advance, and puts them in a position where they have no leverage. It sucks and it’s stupid.
Thanks for talking about this, it's a really hard topic to discuss over a game we have all loved for almost 20 years. We CHEERED these guys at every con, while behind the curtains their own employees were afraid and traumatized. It's gonna take a lot to fix this.
Why can’t people just leave people alone. The point of your work is do your job and go home to keep your lights on, instead you have the fools trying to act like they’re at a club, wtf. Work is for work nothing else.
I was initially going to play TBC classic, but I had grown increasingly uncomfortable with giving my money to Activision Blizzard due to how they have treated both their devs and players. So when you and Matt started talking about FFXIV I made the switch. Not only have I had a great time, but after everything that has happened these last month I have become increasingly happy I made the switch.
Japan worker works 24/7 on drugs so they dont Fall asleep, no holiday, shit payment, little ass room to life but yeah they have an vetter Work place 😂 you are fucking lost
@wowalinbie @ZiggyWestGODX Just because some Japanese companies are like that, doesn't mean that they all are. If you would actually look into the history of the FFXIV team, you would know that.
r/wow curated statements from current/former Blizz staff: www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments...
The lawsuit: aboutblaw.com/YJw
r/wow link doesn't work, sorry.
I think this is a ploy from Activision to destroy blizzard and take all of their money. Do you have a partner and company that makes more money off of buying skins in cod may get backstab in the end. The perfect scapegoat
@@jettom17 probebly got deleted on orders of activision/blizzard
@@OuroborosGhoul this is some next level conspiracy theory, what the hell did you smoke?
The r/wow link is broken :(
I can understand a company making shit games because they're disconnected. But when leadership in any business is this disconnected from their own employees there's something completely fucked up and people need to be fired. Nobody deserves this kind of treatment.
Well said!
Fired and maybe prison
@@formicthearchdruid6763 That didn't make any sense whatsoever.
Regardless, bliz ain't making a single good game anymore - Just try and give out an example.
Exactly..
every game they did was total winer in ganre.. and they are still top after 20 years
Sorry I sound a bit funky, have got a sinus infection of some sort rn. (COVID negative).
feel better xxx
feel better man.
Feel better and thank you for this ❤
Speedy recovery fella! ♥
Take care of your self man lots of tea and lemon!
No matter how many times I hear that poor woman's story it breaks my heart. Like god imagine starting a job with your dream company only for it to spiral into such a nightmare.
^^^This! It’s heartbreaking. 😢
Too bad she quit life instead of her job. =/
@@cryptowatcher5963 Dude. I can't imagine how much intense stress and anxiety she was suffering day to day that suicide is the only option you have. I hope whoever it was that drove her to this gets buried underneath a prison.
Hard to believe that, at one point in time, the late PC Gaming UA-cam legend that was John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain, was a devout supporter of Blizzard and a loyal hardcore gamer towards their Hearthstone digital collectable card game, ignoring the dangers of the lootbox gambling horrors we now see fully realized, a 'stupid man's tax' now made fit to also lure in naïve children and the likes, poor parenting though?
*Makes you wonder what his thoughts of his former beloved game company would be beyond the grave, now that it's hit a boiling point as seen here?*
It's my understanding but she was having a sexual relationship with her boss and she sent him nudes is that accurate? The other version I've heard is that she was an unwilling victim and he was harassing her. I've heard it both ways.
Anyone who pulls the “do you know who I am” card, should be banned from ever holding positions of authority.
i would say it depends on the context in wich it was used. if its used for one guy to just flash evryone with his dick, then yeah! he should be removed from the position he has. if people tell him to do stuff thats not related to his job, then its different :p
Last time someone pulled a 'do you know who I am?!' on me, I answered 'a collossal bellend. Next question?'. They stormed off to complain and were ignored by HR. Helps if you have a reputation of not being a massive twat, at least in the UK anyways
yeah it much depends on the context, almost every absolute is wrong ;p
@@Thalaranthey maybe so
@@jarlsigurdstorvann9885 The only times "Do you know who I am?" can be used without sounding like a dickhead is if someone close to you has amnesia, or you're asking it to a younger person who you last saw when they were six.
Blizzard has lost their integrity. Artistically, and now personally.
You forgot morally which was lost a long time ago. I won't matter they can all move to China if they get in trouble and continue working.
Hard to believe that, at one point in time, the late PC Gaming UA-cam legend that was John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain, was a devout supporter of Blizzard and a loyal hardcore gamer towards their Hearthstone digital collectable card game, ignoring the dangers of the lootbox gambling horrors we now see fully realized, a 'stupid man's tax' now made fit to also lure in naïve children and the likes, poor parenting though?
*Makes you wonder what his thoughts of his former beloved game company would be beyond the grave, now that it's hit a boiling point as seen here?*
If you look at the timeline many of these people are "old Blizzard", it's not just a post activision thing.
What bothers me most is that this has clearly been happening for decades. I have been playing Blizzard games since my age was in the single digits. Knowing that I was playing games where the people who created them were being mistreated in this way even then.... it sickens me. I try to imagine how it must feel to get your dream job at a company like Blizzard and have it turn into a horrific mockery of everything you hoped for. To dread your alarm in the morning because it means you have to go into work for another day. I just wish there is something I could do to go back in time and make their day easier, or at least let them know that they weren't alone in this world. To think that someone took their own life and this may have contributed to it heavily, and that it DIDN'T STOP EVEN AFTER THAT... unconscionable.
You mean they didn't lose that when they bowed down to china?
For a regulatory agency to sue a company this way, they must have determined that the problem was systemic, and management was ultimately responsible. The State would not go after individuals this way. The company will be forced to change, and that will involve ridding itself of bad actors and creating, and enforcing, policies to mitigate such issues in future.
Very much this! 👆 For the most part companies are left to their own devices to determine an internal reporting and review system. It has to get REAL BAD in order for the government to step in and say.. "yeah, that's illegal".
Blizzards claim that they wouldn't give the company updates on the ongoing investigation tells me that 1. They didn't want their informants retaliated against and 2. That they couldn't trust the individuals that had been elected to be their liasons.
I work for a Large corporation, I can assure you it is absolutely possible to maintain a non toxic work environment where abuse/harassment is not tolerated
The talking out the ass surrounding this topic is truly awe-inspiring.
this is very untrue California cant be trusted to be unbiased
Yes, this. A regulatory agency would not have started the process, unless there was a REAL good darn reason to do so. With solid expected results and proof to do so.
I would agree with you on everything except for this:
"The State would not go after individuals this way."
The state would most definitely go after individuals this way. I've heard and seen worse stories, especially when money is involved.
(If you're really interested in seeing how the state goes after people, look up the guy who they designated his land as a "wetland" and fined him into oblivion when highway construction blocked a drainage ditch near his property. He won in court using a geographical survey expert, but the EPA found a loophole to go after him anyway.)
They failed their games, they failed their community and THEN they failed their employees, whats left?
Their shareholders.
More like the other way around huh?
They failed their employees, which then snowballed into bad products, which then failed their community.
Imagine. Big wigs go on vacation or game all day and their lackeys guys are picking on women and drinking all day. What kind of product can they produce with that kind of environment? This game is what people have been clinging to and hoping would get better and complaining about for years. No wonder they've been so out of touch. The bigotry here is amazing. This should have been exposed ages ago!
I think they've been failing their employees the whole time and it just came out now. Makes sense why the community and games suck.
They fail as humans
@@williamchristensen7354 oh, that's coming next!
I wanted to work at Blizz as a young girl running around WoW. I feel so bad for all the other women who had their dream jobs turned into their worst nightmares. I hope the victims can move forward and find a company that wants them for their wonderful talented selves, and not to abuse their bodies.
I also wanted to work for Blizzard, but I unsubscribed from WoW when the Hong Kong fiasco happened.
Never looked back. I knew they didn't care about human beings.
when i was younger as well i really wanted to be a concept artist for them. this entire thing is just crushing, i wish only the best for all of the victims, they deserve so so much better
I had female friends who did. Worked for bliz...nintendo... ect. It was horrid. I worked at Microsoft at age 19...back in 2002...but quit because of sexual harrassment. I had a rubberband shot into my behind and requests for 3 somes...etc. etc. etc.
Same here, I wanted to work in the cinematics division. That was my dream once. And having gone to several Blizzcons, the Blizzard people I met(not in executive positions) seemed like great people who were genuinely happy. Now, I question everything I thought I loved about Blizzard.
@@fantasymmorpgroleplayer8871 if they support China over Hong Kong, you know they have no morals, principles and would do anything to make a quick buck.
Fuck Blizzard. It's time they died off.
Activision CEO Bobby Koticks name was in Epsteins blackbook let that sink in
Shame on dog guard deep state
I'm done with Blizzard, cancelled everything for now. All I can do is hurt them with my miniscule amount of money I used to pay. Fuck Blizzard.
Black book is just a phone contact number book, it dosnt make everyone there a Leo.
You say this like it isn't common knowledge and you alone knew it...
@Peco peco That's your way of protecting the game. Shame on you...
it's oddly naive of bellular to believe the purpose of HR is to protect the employee. That's not the case I am aware of for ANY major company. HR is there to protect the company, every time.
I'm pretty sure his point was that by protecting the employee, they protect the company in the longer term.
HR is never looking out for the employee. They are only there to mitigate anything internally. I've never worked with a company where I felt the HR manager was "in my corner".
@@Rational_Driver I have, a couple times. Local companies, although they had corporate structures. Sometimes if the HR manager is a really good person who cares about people it can happen.
@@humpadumpaa That's the naive outlook I was referring to. That's just not how it works 99% of the time.
@@humpadumpaa It goes something like this. Protect the employee if it protects the company, discard the employee if it protects the company.
It's not only morally nauseating, as a customer of their products for decades, this is what they're doing with my money?!
I feel you. I almost feel complicit. I made a million excuses to settle for their declining games buying their products. Ugh
Same, Im disgusted by the amount of money I have wasted on them over the years. I feel sick
If this bothers you then wait until you see what the government does with your money
Your money went into the bonus of Bobby Koytick who is a billionair, let that sink in. That guy has billions on his account (I believe he has 2 billion or 4 billion, something like that), yet he has people fired while claiming his 200 million bonus (200 million is nothing when you own 4000 million), while he has a huge sexual scandal going on in his company and you can't tell me he didn't know. They always know, HR knows, but with big companies it's always the same. HR is just a system to check what employees are troublesome and should be terminated, they aren't there for the employees, they are there to hear complaints regarding the company and fuck the employee sideways. Bobby knew, but he ain't man enough to admit and will try to save his rat face.
@@dartheverstar9564 come join us in FF14. 😊 the contrast of how players feel there compared to WoW is big, and it’s continuing to grow in contrast. I’m glad I made FF my home and left WoW behind.
I truly think the leadership failed here. They need to be removed. It also does bring comfort that this has a huge lawsuit. I suspect California will come down hard on them and the hope is other companies wake up and change before the state makes them.
Makes me wonder what the new leadership will do? I mean, this scandal is on OUR radar tdoday, but the shareholders are the ones the new leadership would really need to please. What'll those shareholders make them do, considering how WoW has deteriorated over the last several years?
I hope they don't overcompensate for all this anti-female sexism by creating de facto anti-male sexism. If they'd just promoted based on qualifications and experience and skills and that kind of thing, then more women would have power in Blizzard. If they decide to promote the females today that should've been promoted years ago, that'd be a good thing. But if they decide to promote only females going forward...it'll lead to the same competence problems they have now, where they picked a criteria OTHER than competence to decide who to promote!
I sure hope they don't replace one kind of stupid with another kind...!
Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved. John 3:16 (share the good news of the gospel around the world!) Have a wonderful day/night, may the Lord bless you all, and farewell!
Ya fire everyone over a couple of jackasses they definitely need to become pariahs ......no fire the jackass and have the tried legally
there is no proof, only allegations. Whatever happened to due process?
@@longWriter pretty sure the share holders are mostly disconnected and don't really care as long as they make money.
If memory served right only one of them paid some attention to the Devil Bobby Kotick's oversized salary and demand for even more money despite failing quarterly goal which resulted in over 100 jobs cut, and before that over 800 layoffs with a successful financial quarter.
"Do you know who I am?"
We do now, for sure.
I’m the guy that’s gonna burn your fucken house down with the lemons
@@Roamingfirebat I guess at least Cave Johnson never sexually harassed co-workers, err not sure if I had a point here except if Cave Johnson is somehow less evil than your boss despite subjecting employees to deeply scarring science experiments then something is seriously wrong with your company.
Yeah we know who you are! you’re Bill Cosby patch 2.0.
Alex Afrapesiabi
underrated comment
I'm a grown woman. I remember how once upon a time working for Blizzard was my dream. World of Warcraft was my main inspiration for drawing, sculpting, doing art. I loved it's style, I loved it's story, and I genuinely was even looking for ways how to increase my skills so I could work there.... I loved WoW so much I genuinely wanted to contribute and work there to make it as amazing as it can be...
Now?... I'm genuinely glad I had a friend, who also played wow and wanted to work there once, who talked me out of it 3 years ago... Took off my rose tinted glasses. Hearing about this genuinely makes me feel disgusted... I'm lucky enough I didn't witness any of this at work (tho I was a victim of this in highschool a lot), but I still cannot imagine how these women employees feel... Especially how far was that woman, who committed suicide, pushed to finally end it all... I genuinely feel so sad and sorry for them, I do hope they find something better, that treat them well and with respect.
As someone, who once dreamed of working for Blizzard.... Now I just want to see it burn to the ground. Either it burns and someone with passion and integrity picks it back up, or let it die, and not cause any more harm. This is genuinely disturbing....
I just finished my second year of university Animation course (one year left) with the plan of actually hoping to work at blizzard as an end goal. The past week I don't know what to do with my life anymore. I have been playing Warcraft 3 and wow and StarCraft all my life and now I feel like my whole life plan has just come to an end, no idea what to do anymore as it was my life plan. GG no Re I guess.
When your biggest problem people in a company have executive titles... You just got a ticking time bomb.
Wouldn't be murrca without a cosby suite.
Slavery still exists just with out the chains.
These allegations explain a lot actually. Playerbase frustrated for so long because Blizzard seemed detached from them. Turns out they were detached from humans in general. They turned into beasts.
You can't expect a company to respect players if they can't even respect their own employees, or even acknowledge them as human beings. It's just sad.
A hoonter must hoont.
@@93beren honestly after the mass firings of (good) QA people it was kind of obvious something shady was going on.
@@saal0 well, yes that's true. But, I couldn't ever have imagined something as brutal as this.
"Beasts all over the shop."
Wow. I clicked on this thinking it was about abuse of workers i.e. burning them out. But this... Holy F. I already disliked Blizzard as far as their direction and decisions but this is on a another level. Glad I'm boycotting the company. HUGE feels going out for her family and friends. Hope justice is served against the perpetrators.
Hard to believe that, at one point in time, the late PC Gaming UA-cam legend that was John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain, was a devout supporter of Blizzard and a loyal hardcore gamer towards their Hearthstone digital collectable card game, ignoring the dangers of the lootbox gambling horrors we now see fully realized, a 'stupid man's tax' now made fit to also lure in naïve children and the likes, poor parenting though?
*Makes you wonder what his thoughts of his former beloved game company would be beyond the grave, now that it's hit a boiling point as seen here?*
@@MasterLPG He's probably rolling in his grave right now.
No one gives a fuck if you are boycotting or not.
@@SimplySmeef he died a soy boi. I highly doubt it.
@@RngmonsterX Yeah I'm sure Blizzard doesn't care about the literal droves of people abandoning their games. Maybe if they weren't too busy sexually harassing their employees they'd notice.
"people drinking excessively at work"...
explains Shadowlands -.-
I am so done with Blizzard, this is just the last drop for me.
Put your money where your mouth is and cancel your subscription.
Yeah, I stopped playing there games many months ago, and now I will not touch their products ever again. I just can't support such low lifes in any way.
@@robbytherob What subscription? A good game deserves a subscription. Shadowlands didn't even deserve it at half price before all this crap came to light.
Yeah, it's really the missing piece for me, it answers the main question I've had for two expansions now - how a game with apparently such a large budget can produce content so slow and so lackluster. I often joked that they have a woodchipper out back they dump our sub money into. I suspect this right here is our hypothetical woodchipper.
@@lenuxdu7280 exactly.. I did it back in feb./march. I rquestet that all my data will be deletet.. the only right move in my mind
The amount of awkward laughter really shows how hard this video was to make.
For real, I fall into the same things when I'm talking about a subject that hits as deeply as this does. Definitely not intended to make light of it or take it as anything other than serious, it's just... how do we make sense of something like this? Feel pretty blindsided by it.
Humans laugh because the other alternative is crying. But it's easy to tell the difference between nervous awkward laughter and finding something truly humorous. There is no humor in this video at all. Poor guy, what a huge ass of a video that absolutely had to be made.
@@laner.845 exactly this. It’s so sad see the parent of a game we all love make such a fool of themselves.
@@Thwompcrew "Fool of themselves" Jesus Christ, let's use proper terminology. They're using power to utterly obliterate people who work with them. There is no excuse, prison should be the least they get.
@@laner.845 Bellular is still paying money to Blizz so, I think the only thing hard about this video is the stark hypocrisy it eexemplifies. Even after all this time, Bell is a slave to the Blizzard algorithm... on 2+ channels...
I remember when Blizzard was one of the best game developers… and now it’s one of the worst companies. Pretty depressing.
I love how the game has been slowly falling the fuck apart and the people who are in the position to fix it are too busy drinking at work
It was the men drinking at work, while the women worked those drunk men crawled under cubicles to harass the women-This is what the Bloomberg article said was in the lawsuit.
according to the article, approximately 20% of the workforce are women. the men were busy getting drunk whereas the women were given extra work and being harassed
@@Maidendg because no women has ever drank ...
@Sean Thompson Women are usually not in a position to drink on the job and sexually harass male employees. If that does happen it's an outlier. It certainly doesn't seem to be the case that it's happening at Blizzard.
Is that specific enough for your little incel brain to process?
@@Dazen101 did you forget to read the last sentence? Was it too many words to read all at once?
Imagine trying to find a defense for these
"boys'" behavior...they resonate with you. smh
WoW and Blizz are basically done, at least in my eyes.
Unsubbing wont be enough, people need to permanently delete their accounts to have an impact.
@@tomazou2010 the money is what matters but that is an even stronger signal!
@@tomazou2010 Blizz: "Now introducing paid account recovery $59.99 ."
@@a_tired_dad Unfortunately, blizzard are making more money through wow now due to interaction with the cash shop then they did at the peak of the game.
Sadly nerds will continue to throw money at them :/
Wanna know the thing that REALLY disgusts me about this?
Even after the suicide of the one girl on the company trip the degenerates who are apart of this culture probably kept going about sexually harassing other people as if nothing happened.
Reprehensible. 😡
I hope they rot in hell.
How do we even know it was suicide? He could have murdered that woman and made it look like suicide.
Heartless, their sanctimonious speech makes it even more disgusting 😣
@@Richforce1 it was pretty obviously suicide if you look up the report.
@L M Don't sell women short - Pelosi, Whitmer, Waters and others are the equal of any male demagogue ruining things today. Corruption is a human defect.
Sounds like The H.R. teams at Activision-Blizzard need H.R. Teams of their own.
HR protects the business, not the employees.
The entire world needs a better reporting system for crime. Jessica Ladd did a six minute ted talk about one in 2016. I think the video is still up on youtube. Warning tho, it's uncomphy to listen to and mentions not consensual acts. I feel like the system could be used anywhere tho, and even weed out those false allegations that innocent people are so afraid of.
Thanks for listening.
This is why the industry needs to unionize
It's like when your lawyer needs a lawyer. That's how you know you are fucked.
They do. It's the same HR team as John Cena.
"Surely you don't get away with it just because you're 'one of the boys', right?"
Bellular, you sweet summer child. The power of nepotism is always greater than you think.
Ppl in high positions are protected. HR and other managers will just look the other way, nobody ever wants to speak up or be a whistleblower. I've seen it myself firsthand several times.
@@sacrosby I can imagine trying to be a whistleblower is scary. It'd be one thing if you knew speaking up would result in some kind of positive change, even if it cost you your job/career, but when even that's in doubt...
@@vfaulkon happened in our company. The heads started rolling only after a few ex-employees exposed that behavior online on job platforms, but in the end only a few senior managers stepped down and that's it. Pretty sure they now have the same positions in a different company, maybe earn even more...
@@vfaulkon if you start speaking out, you get a reputation as a wave maker and you become a pariah.
How depressing this is, but it is true. We need to put pressure on those who help these monsters get away with what they do. Stop lobbying and hood our government accountable.
I once dreamt of working for Blizzard but I changed my mind since getting in was hard and getting paid was a nightmare
Now? I don't want to support them
I'm in the same boat. Growing up that was my dream. To work on the warcraft team. As I got older I realized how bad game dev work was. Then seeing it at blizzard killed it. But this just sickens me
Unfortunately this type of behaviour, perhaps not to this extreme, is present in every industry. You'd be hard pressed to find a woman who hasn't experienced sexual harassment or rape culture at school, work, in public, even at home. It's pervasive.
@@Eiptaem it definitely shouldn't be like that though and that's the problem. The other problem is all things considered it is worse in this industry than any other. Between fans and people that work in it.
The tech is there now for you to make something as good with the right collaborates. Good 🍀
@@Eiptaem Its pointless to point out "oh others do it too", stop that kind of mentality especially about crime
After playing game since 2010 I finally unsubscribed from retail and classic, not only because game actually going downhill, but also because of what happened now. I loved this game,and still do,it was a huge part of my life, but as female player I feel kinda disgusted dedicating years of my life for this game. My thoughts go out to everyone affected.
I feel you! Big heart
I feel very sad about the women that took her life...
The amount of pain and tourcher she must have experianced ...
They turned her into a sex tool and passed her around ...
They should be on trial tbh , and top management for that too cause they allowed it
Such a sad ending for a human life..... ⚘
My wife was nauseous when she found out about this. We both have uninstalled everything Blizzard.
SAME!
I have unstalled everything Blizzard since they started using dirty methods to apeal to LGBTQ turning ingame characters gay and stuff.
Now when you think about it:
Supports LGBTQ + allows and not punish harrassment/sexual advances/rape
If Barak somehow finds away to survive this shit storm, he should be one of the best CEOs to ever live along with Jobs. I mean there is no way you can get out of this uneffected economcally atleast, not nowadays.
I really don't want people to loss thier job, but if ActivisionBlizzard falls cause of this its gonna change whole AAA gaming to good
Tell them only that Blizzard is dead. And that World of Warcraft... died with it. Now leave this place and never come back!
No one is leaving, only you.
@@enchantress7928 actually no, you can look up numbers, since this shit started its dropping quite dramatic. i understand people love wow. but you know how you can help wow rn? cancel your sub let them feel concequences and then we might have another legion again
@@Jamie-gd2jx Nope, not true. Why should I cancel my sup? WoW is a very good game and there is nothing wrong with Blizzard or their games. The men or women who say that WoW is bad usually just think it's a good game, they just follow the streamers. A random WoW player, ''WoW is a good game'' a streamer says WoW is bad, the random WoW player again ''uhmm yea... WoW is... Wow is bad because my streamer says that...'' They just keep playing WoW only they say they don't play it on places like UA-cam, that's trolling in my eyes....
And another thing, I hear every xpack that WoW is dead but every new xpack millions of players are playing again.... hmmm strange. Don't be fooled by a few simple streamers who have their own opinion and try to impose it on others. Unfortunately, we live in a (left-wing woke) society where most people do not have their own opinion and do not think for themselves.
@@enchantress7928 you are so out of touch if you think this video is about bad expansions. We're talking about a woman who was bullied to death, about well known blizz devs who called their office the Cosby Suite due to rampant sexual abuse, not whatever political rant you've hamfisted in here. Yes, there are tons of people like you who will continue to play WoW and that's your right. But for plenty of people, this was the absolute last straw.
@@Maatkare I don`t care about the woman (i don`t know her) or about insite Blizzard, i only care about the games they make. What they do or do not in the office is not my problem. That are the facts.
Asmongold brought up a great point (and I'm paraphrasing here): there are going to be guys whose knee-jerk reaction will be to defend the accused because false accusations are scary as hell. But this isn't that scenario. This isn't a he-said-she-said thing between two individuals and these men *are not on your side* . This isn't something to rally behind the bros for. You, the player, have suffered from this, even if it isn't obvious. When social accountability goes out the window so does other accountability. So does professionalism and the product suffers. Etc. It's a domino affect at the end of which *you* lose.
Look at Blizz's accountability to their own players in recent years. If that's how they treat the people giving them money is it really that much of a stretch to think this frat party of a company was a nightmare behind the scenes for historically repressed/targeted groups?
I am a huge proponent of the innocent until proven guilty mentality, and I have huge personal mistrust of government in general and California in particular. That said, the amount of detail in these allegations and the way they match up with the visible company culture have my knee-jerk reaction being to side against Blizzard. This explains a lot, fits in with so much, and is so readily believable. Plus, the companies deflections seem to have no substance to counter the allegations.
@@Skyblade12 Legally, in a court of law, I abso-fucking-lutely think "innocent until proven guilty" *has* to be enforced. The defendants should have every right to walk into that courtroom and expect a fair trial and you can't do that if the judge or jury immediately assume guilt. However, as far as what has been released to the public, I agree that everything just fits too perfectly to not be believed. I don't feel bad at all saying "In my opinion, they are guilty" because it's not going to convict anyone and the evidence has become overwhelming.
@@christinaify The problem there is that it leads to very unjust behavior. That’s literally what lynching is: extra legal mob justice. Most lynchings occurred after an incident like a theft or murder that rallied up townsfolk, blame was placed on an outsider, and mob justice dealt out. It is not “in a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty”, it is “you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law”. The court is the place where the proving must be done, not the only place where innocence is assumed. The court of public opinion can be easily swayed with a few statements, especially by someone with a large platform.
I just hope for a speedy trial and a just outcome. And right now I think a just outcome is a good number of Activision Blizzard employees and management going to jail. So I am probably too biased to serve on that jury. But I will hope for that just outcome all the same.
@@Skyblade12 Agreed on many points. Also, there are just way too many pieces fitting together and they're not at all conspiratory - many verified ex-employees are confirming the story as well (people have fact-checked them already).
@@Lilybellmusic Agreed as well. It also matches a lot with the public persona they have presented over the years. “You think you want it, but you don’t”, for example. The refusal to listen, the smug dismissal of concerns and such, and their self glorying performances at Blizzcon, all point to a culture that would match these perfectly. But is that because I’m already against them and have a personal investment in it? That’s why I want a speedy trial and a just resolution. I think I’m right, but then, we all usually think that.
What sucks is that this will take years to get to court, if it even does.
In all the years I've worked at companies, and stories I've heard personally, I've NEVER heard a good thing about HR. EVER. And I stay out of trouble. So it doesnt surprise me at all to hear that, once again, HR has failed to protect people when they needed it the most, and instead protected the business. Lowest of the low. I hope they get investigated and torn apart.
HR function is to protect the company from lawsuits by managing their human resources and keeping them in line. They failed the same way in this situation, but it is important to note that HR is not there to protect you, but rather to keep you harmless and productive to the company.
From "out of touch dads in Sunglasses" to "touchy feely Uncle Larry."
As someone has gotten a back massage at work followed with the comment “you shouldn’t be so tense” which made me more tense and uncomfortable because it was not asked for or wanted… it is more common than you think.
Counter perspective, I have a lot of anxiety and absolutely love when coworkers (who I’m GOOD friends/family with) come up and massage my shoulders and back. The “you shouldn’t be so tense” is them trying to make me feel more comfortable, and I absolutely appreciate and love them for that. It absolutely helps ME.
I am not invalidating your opinion, but just giving an alternative perspective.
In your case, they should know it’s inappropriate in your content. As they clearly don’t, be firm, don’t drop subtle hints that you’re uncomfortable. Simply let them know you don’t feel comfortable with them doing that. It’s not easy, but they could genuinely not understand that.
The only way to tell if they’re genuine or manipulative with their intentions is to see if they stop when you ask them to. Be safe everyone.
@@mattkeeler7385 calm down incel
@@mattkeeler7385 man you’re giving off a strong incel vibe with that name and comment
You’re gay
Agreed. Its happened to my wife on two different occasions at two different workplaces in her past. When power structures are kept unchecked, these douchey male frat boys will run a-mock with their terrible behavior.
When all of this started yesterday our guild leader and his wife posted their thoughts on discord, after that they disbanded the guild and quit wow. now over 70 people have quit and my wife and I just unsubbed and deleted all of our toons. I guess this is the only way we as non business people can affect change.
Did you guys move to a new game or just taking a break after this?
Damn my respects.
Respect
Lol
@wowalinbie wouldn't that just put them in deeper hot water for the thing they are literally being investigated for
Seeing how the CEO was in Episteins Black Book Im not surprised that this was allowed to happen though I am disappointed
I hope something would happen to Bobby but sadly I don't think it will as he is the CEO of Activsion and although Blizzard is a division of Activision called Activision Blizzard none of this will go back to Bobby, JAB and that HR lady on the other hand and everyone at Activision Blizzard their jobs are possibly on the line. If there is accusations against Activision itself that involve Bobby then he is screwed then again that's why they have fall guys beneath them like JAB.
Correct me if I'm wrong but many of these crimes happened during Morhaime's management.
While there is no doubt many names in that book that had knowledge of and/or participated in one or more crimes linked to Epstein, it is important to remember that being in that book does not mean automatically that they knew of or committed any of these crimes. Many of them never met Epstein even (tho, they would in that case most likely have had met G. Maxwell)
Id say the CEO allowing this to happen, makes me unsurprised to see his name in Epstein’s book, not the other way around :)
Similar to the phrase “not all trump supporters are racists, but all racists are trump supporters” if you get what Im sayin…
All of the top brass of Blizzard needs to be purged. Disgusting
Chris Metzen and others from among the Blizzard Legends would be disappointed with how the current top brass at Blizzard is doing things.
@@RiptoGakt Chris Metzen and others from among the Blizzard Legends didn't do jack shit 20 years prior to this.
blizzard of today is the top brass, you're saying blizzard needs to be shut down basically
@@RiptoGakt this shit happened under Chris Metzen. This sequence of events dates back further than the ActiBlizz merge.
This is just sad. Blizzard can’t treat the games, customers and now even their own people right. These people got to go.
i mean we all knew they treated their employes like shit way before this, didnt you heard how they had wages so low they coulnt even afford cafeteria food or something among those words?
You’re gay
@@narutojackson3527 lmfao what
@@djspecky5286 saying you’re gay so I can kick back and watch people reply a bunch of dumb shit since it pisses them off 😂
@@narutojackson3527 I mean that's lame. People are trying to have actual conversations here LOL. silly
I understand there are good people in the company but the executives like Jay allowed it to go on for so long they're as guilty as Alex is and should be criminally charged. I also think this will give Swifty and the voice actor of Kael'thus a reason to take legal action against blizzard for damages
I’m out of the loop what happens the the voice of kael’thus and Swifty ?
@@Roamingfirebat accusations of sexual misconduct that were i believe later proven false. As soon as accusations came out Swifty's npc was immediately removed. KT voice actor had every single line he did replaced almost instantly. Nice bit of Hypocrisy from Blizz when they were unproven accusations and this has been going on
investigation started in 2018 , morheim stepped down in 2018 . what do you think
Jay Allen Brack and Alex are buddies since the old blizzard days no way Jay will get Alex fired. This is conflict of interest at best and karma wins.
@@paulmccarthy4277 possibly, but if that were the case would so many former blizzard employees be joining DreamHaven?
This is the culture of the gaming community from Activision/blizzard through Ubisoft why isn't there a 0 tolerance policy on this shit. It's fucking disgusting and I for one believe where there's smoke there's fire. All these game companies need to be investigated at this point.
because being accused with sexual harassment needs to be proven and most victims feel uncomfortable sharing their horrible experiences, theres a lot of unreported rape/harassment cases, and also the accused life could be destroyed even if he was proven innocent
and yes its absolutely disgusting
I can totally see this as being true. Gaming in general was always seen as a "boys club" until recently. Makes sense that game companies would be the same way.
@@seanwilliams7655 there is such a big difference between a boy’s club and this though.
@@saal0 boys club was a euphemism. But think about it like this. Think of some of the guys that you knew growing up that were hardcore gamers, and think about the type of working environment they would create as adults. If you look at it like that, it makes perfect sense that this is happening.
I've been a WoW player since 2005. I reacted the only way I could as a customer, because I find what's happening unbearable. I cancelled my account today.
Same here man. Lots of memories since vanilla. All my friends unsubbed, my guild disbanded last night. We're done with this.
Here's what I posted in my guild Discord:
Due to the recent news about Blizzard and the allegations against women employees, I am making a personal protest and stopping my WoW account effective immediately. Coming from a law background, I recognize these are allegations and everyone should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. However, after reading articles and most of the submitted lawsuit this is the final straw for me. You will not be seeing me online moving forward playing Blizzard games until major changes are made.
I support your stand entirely. I'm skeptical that any amount of damage to WoW (financial or otherwise) would actually hurt the people that should be served justice in this matter, but it's still a damned good form of protest. I just hope that on top of this, the judicial branch will be able to smack down those as need smacking.
I'm curious though and genuine question (not trying to catch you out), what changes (if Blizzard were to make them) would be enough for you to be willing to return?
@@JB-xl2jc That's a very fair question. I'll speak to what's happened to me with my own work recently. By trade I'm an investigator (wont share what I investigate obviously), and we have had a new CEO appointed for almost a year. He immediately divided a family like work environment through various tactics and brought in incredibly toxic managers. Many of my talented colleagues have been forced to find new positions simply because we couldn't emotionally handle the abuse.
Light at the end of the tunnel: My job has a board of governors who appointed this individual. I personally took a stand, with a few others who were brave enough, and spoke out about the work environment that's been created. Interviews we conducted with all remaining employees and the results were the CEO being fired just last week, and others have been let go as well now.
The Change I need to see: Those who have been named are either gone or will be gone shortly from Blizzard. They will have their day in court and should be concerned about their future. However, the executives in place that ALLOWED this type of culture and who didn't do ENOUGH to protect those impacted by assholes stepping way over the line, should be removed from their positions. Jay Allen Brack should be removed. JAB is weak. His leadership has left Blizzard as a husk of it's former self.
That is what it will take for me to accept Blizzard Entertainment products again.
I used my last 8 hours of game time to unlock flying in Shadowlands. I couldn't even enjoy my time. I won't log in until . . .I may not log in again idk
In regards to the ongoing Case against Blizzard - States rarely take cases to court unless they are certain they will win. For a state that has only one year of budget surplus in over 10+ years (?) it really isn’t feasible to think that they would waste money on frivolous lawsuits against wealthy corporations.
yes and no. As a CA resident they have made examples of people and companies. They have solid evidence yes but this move by the state is more of a strong arm negotiating tactic to bring them back to mediation. I.E wielding the big stick. If A/B don't and take try to take this to court, this tactic also revolves around the discovery process in which court ordered investigation diving further into Items likely A/B does not want to be made public.
for us for mere Warcraft nerds. Its the Alliance (mediation) and Horde (court discovery process) in a pincer attack against Sylvanas (A/B). Who she chooses to actually fight to minimize damages is where this comes into play.
The only reason CA even has a surplus is because of all the COVID cash the federal government has been handing out over the last year. CA is still woefully mismanaged and is still being bankrupted by public employee union pension obligations.
@@amcynic it puzzles me how people are more worried about the state than these women having to experience things like this. “Ok blizzard did that but did you know California is a shit state because of blah blah blah”
@UCxYELuYqGCBXgHyKNENqi5Q Id also hope the most bankrupt of counties would be able too or women are back in the 1970s
@@kosmosu2 Yeah this seems to be the case at least according to some legal channels like HOE law etch., not a uncommon tactic in other states as well. The state doesn't want to clean up your mess, they want you to fix your own problems. IF THEY have to clean up your mess, they will make your life a living hell.
Maybe this will be the moment where Activion just clears the top deck of blizzard.
Like Bobby Kotick cares...dudes probably in on them with it
Not just blizzard also activision, but yeah blizzard did the most of it looking at the actual fine print. Crazy
Was it not the Activision employee who fucking killed herself? Why would you give Activision a free pass and act as if it's just the Blizzard portion is to blame? The entire tree is most likely rotten, Bobby Kotick was in Jeffrey Epstein's logs for Christ sake. Don't minimize this shit
@@astrophilosophe Not going to defend Bobby, but the Black Book isn't definitive evidence of anything. Its basically just a phone book that has the elites of society, but also like salon hairstylists and other businesses that he interacted with regularly.
@@DarkLotusAlpha IICR Bobby was on the actual flight logs more than once.
I already quit, but as someone who always thought they would come back to wow every now and then, this is a deal breaker... after hearing about the person who took her own life on the work trip.... dear god, ive never been so disgusted by a company in my life. This use to be the same company i thought would be a dream job 10 years ago, now its just mind blowingly fucked up..
That and the woman who was harassed while pregnant really hit me the most I think.
Explain your name
I literally brushed my arms down after unsubscribing because I felt so disgusted and ashamed that I'd unknowingly financially supported this.
@@navajo237 His account name has nothing to do with sexual harassment.
@@navajo237 His account name or any other factor does not discredit what he's saying. When studying an argument or viewpoint you should study what is being said, not the person behind it.
Actually, unsubscribing does. Are you suggesting I should continue to pay a company that violently abuses their employees?? In my household they've lost 2 active players which is £20 per month, not a lot, but considering prior to this they lost 30% of their player base and have lost many more due to this scandal, yes, it impacts them. Anyone who financially supports this company might as well buy some slaves, beat their wives and set fire to their dogs. Clearly, they enjoy abuse.
Damn, getting uncomfortable watching how uncomfortable Bellular is just relaying the information
He'll keep supporting Blizzard with his platform and subscription.
@@enragedsun1826 Have a look at Hazelnutty Games, her video makes a great point at the end on why some should stay subbed. I personally haven't played in months, but I support the good eggs staying and trying to help improve the environment at least a little.
This is partly Bellulars income, and until he's got a strong support of FFXIV players he can't make that switch just yet.
@@TheMistressMisery I respect Hazelnutty, but she's wrong on this. Good people have always been there, this still happened. We as women especially should stand up for each other more than for a gaming community, no matter how important that community is to her. She should stop giving Blizzard her money, so should Bellular, honestly.
This whole situation makes me want to eat excessive amounts of junk food, apply for a job at Blizzard, take a massive dump on the interview table and leave.
I was barely holding on, only subbing recently after not playing for a long time to play TBC classic... I'm done with that, going to spend my time elsewhere. These allegations just pushed it over the edge, they were bad and now they're just despicable. They don't give a single fuck
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Phrases I was not expecting to hear in a video about Blizzard: "...lube and a butt-plug..."
That’s taken straight from the lawsuit.
Just saw that line in the statement.. kinda WTF 👀
Sanctum of domination looking a little different now.
Not something you think of when you're playing word games and somone mentions Blizzard butt-plug and lube would not come to mind.
It's a sad day.
And the mere thought that that nonsense could've contributed to an innocent young woman taking her own life. My god. And it didn't even stop afterwards. How shameless could you be to attempt to prey on a woman, followed by her committing suicide... and then you go right on to prey on other women? Un-fucking-conscionable.
Imagine being a reputable UA-camr who is loyal to a game and helps promote the game for free for years and then gets frustrated with the idiots running the game and moves on to other games and then learns how insanely fucked up that company is. I really feel sorry for you Bellular and everyone else who helped promote this shitty company for so many years for free.
They owe their community and fans a huge apology going forward and proof that things are changing for workers unless it's too late for them.
I have a lot of female family and friends who work and I hope they never have to go through this kind of treatment in the work place or anywhere. Disgusting.
A fair few people owe their livelihoods to the promotion of this company and their products. I do not envy them given this current situation.
@@Phryguye It works both ways. Blizzard owes their community just as much as the other way around. Without them they wouldn't of been in the position they were.
By allowing this behaviour to happen. They let everyone down. Not just their workers but also their fans and community and anyone who looked up to this company and their products.
Asmon, Bellular, and Preach have kept people subscribed to this game, and Blizzard has shit on all of them at some point.
@@ysonline blizzard owes the company nothing. It's just a company looking out for money like any other company is. They create stuff, you buy their product. That's it. You don't owe them and they dont owe you.
@@stefanmarcella2673 if you subscribe to a game because of youtubers, that's on you. I left the game over a year ago and never looked back.
To think, growing up Blizzard was my dream place to work at…
it warms my heart when I think about how the next generation of games might be made by game studios owned by people like Bellular who look at the Blizzard guys' behaviour and say "what the fuck??"
the next generation of games will be made by ppl who believe that asking a female coworker out for a drink constitutes as sexual harassment
@@alkkoor3044 ok incel
@@frosty6845
>imas
>incel
lmao
@@frosty6845 You are kind of proving his point with that statement... js
Shadowlands was the last expac I bought. I've been unsubbed for months now and never planning to buy anything blizzard related. Sorry, not sorry! Shame on you! Planning to buy FFXIV and play the hell out of it!
Have fun and enjoy your stay :D
I got the complete edition yesterday and it was 60% off. Downloaded that quick and felt amazing. Now to find a goofball guild that takes nothing seriously and considers dying a badge of honor!! Lol.
Come to Aether! Best Datacenter!
You saw BFA and decided to buy Shadowlands? What did you expect?
Swifty: False allegations, gets attacked by Blizz no investigation
Kael Voice actor: Same thing, no investigation
2 year investigation resulting in a law suit against Blizz: "Oh well we're gonna do a complete investigation and we're gonna look into xyz...."
Everything makes sense now about the state of the game. How can you turn out a quality product when your work environment is one of pain, fear, exploitation, and sexual violence. I said goodbye to WoW yesterday, a lifetime of memories and achievements, because I cannot even log in anymore knowing what I know about the culture that has produced what is now a largely soulless product. How can we expect Blizzard to respect the players when they don’t even respect their own staff. They should all go down.
I made the same, very difficult decision, after playing the game for over a decade. I simply can't live with myself, innocently playing a game I love, knowing that people were being horribly abused. I cancelled my subscription, and will just log in a few more times before it runs out to explain to my guildies, my friends, why I have to leave. I feel like Blizzard has stolen something from me. I feel sick. Longtime players like us should not be put in this position, and it goes without saying that such horrible, sexist behaviour does not fly! I don't care what industry you're in.
@@violetlight1548 Same. And like man others I tried FF14, so far very fun. Even the part that is supposed too suck.
I made the same decision back in February when I realized wow is just a beta test. Honestly. You won't regret it. There really are better games out there and this just makes it easier to leave WoW for good. Uninstall the game.
@@johannilsson6395 I've been a hard core casual in FFXIV for a while. Something I've learned, in hindsight I suppose, is there's a lot covered in ARR that the stories build off of further on in the game. So, yea the pacing in ARR is a bit slow to say the least, but they're setting the stage and trying to give you a chance to learn the game and the story being told at the same time.
I quit permanently after blitzchung. Good on you for at least quitting when the building is on fire though. :P
You know they're in trouble when blizzard is starting to sound like the scenes out of Wolf of Wall Street
Sad thing is: This makes sense. I mean the products they have been releasing got progressively worse. There are massive delays. Out of touch statements. Interviews where Blizz tells people what they can ask, like some bloody dictator.
Having shit like this behind the scenes fits like a glove.
Indeed
@@donmab Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
This all likely began when Blizzard began it's rise in fame with titles like Diablo and StarCraft. They've basically become a household name for most gamers born in the 90s to early 2000 and the fame has likely gone to their heads, despite the fact that the actual talent behind their most notable titles have been chased away along with the people who called them out and/or refused to tow the line.
Especially when you look at the quality of female characters, especially female costume design. Or lack luster female character creation. It's the saddest puzzle to watch all the pieces fall into place.
Well, guess I’ll go see what all this FFXIV hype is about.
Edit: Been playing for the last few hours. I really like it so far.
It's pretty good. Different than WoW, but good. Not that I've played a ton, just the last few weeks.
Its really worth at least trying since you can play so much of it for free
Just know the main story plays like a single player JRPG. The rest of the game is an MMO.
Been playing for two weeks having a blast! Heavensward the story really picks up fast and I actually enjoy the time I put into playing FF
Same
So done with this game. Haven’t subbed since shadowlands launch and I’m never coming back.
Haven't subbed since Legion. Fk this game.
Same here. So done. Shadowlands is the worst expansion ever. Shit game shit company.
@@johnhill762 i've had a total of 4 months sub across all expansions since cata xd never hooked me anymore
Holy shit I had no clue someone took their life, this is so beyond sad and disappointing wtf blizzard? How am I supposed to support a game ive been playing since I was a child after all of this 😭😭 rip
The person that took their life worked at activision not Blizzard, still is bad overall for blizz to.
@@ionut-madalinnejloveanu6778 i am so sorry if i sound so insensitive here but i need to know about that female employee that took her own life, specifically whether there was any news that covered her death (i'm not in the US so i don't know how things worked in the US).
Especially the gaming news media since she was an employee of Blizzard so it should made a buzz, and a big one at that because if this allegation is 100% truly proven as true in court then i shudder to think that Blizz have been covering this up to a disgusting degree.
Again, sorry if i came out as insensitive but this is the one that nagged me the most in this entire lawsuit.
Edit : it was an Activision employee, but i suppose since Actiblizz is now 1 entity this will also hit Blizz
@wowalinbie wow, what ghoulish take this is. I literally cannot believe a human being wrote this comment.
@wowalinbie Read above
@@hoshi314 you are most likely not going to find any trace of that incident as it would have been immediately damage controlled. (hence why the public has never really heard of it happening) Families and witnesses have most likely been paid off not to say anything since it will be damaging to the reputation of Activision/Bobby Kotick. IF the lawsuit makes it to court then the details would be made available and public.
The Blizzard that I fell in love with years ago is dead. I hung on to my memory of what they used to be and the games that they used to produce for too long. I uninstalled the blizzard launcher about four months ago and I’ve found other companies that deserve my time and money.
Unfortunately, even back in those days they were denying employment and abusing employees. Just look at the radical customisation differences between male and female models... they've never respected anyone, least of all women.
Just waiting for the store mount where the proceeds goes toward some sort of organization working for equality at the workplace.
Thanks for making a video on the subject. This has been hard for sure. I chose to move on simply because I couldn't answer this following question:
What does the company have to do, for me to no longer want to play their games?
And that one line about that poor woman who couldn't go on, is well beyond that line in the sand.
I get those of you who choose to continue, I'm not income based off of the games, I'm ok with it becoming a happy memory for me, so privileged to make the choice. I think you hit the head of the nail on this video.
Goodluck my dude.
Some of the people envolved in this allegation have already left the company. And I don't think the majority of men, the whole 80 % of workers where being demeaning to the 20% of women. My point is I think the majority of people working there where probably the victims or just passive, and not the perpetrators.
@@paulogaspar8295 that’s usually the case. I’ve worked 12 years in tech and telecom and there’s a couple bad (sometimes really bad) people and the grand majority who won’t say a word. It’s an uphill fight. (Not an issue today where I work, but the stories I could te from previous places)
Proud of you for taking a stand and happy to follow you on your new adventures!
Seeing my mom and what she had to go through when she was harassed for years, the higher ups protect each other in this and will fight or brush it under the rug. Then say to the victim oh its just some fun don't take it so serious sort of thing. The higher ups know because they are all buds the person that was harassed feels just like a toy to be played with. I hope when it goes to court things will get justice and the bad actors are punished, that could go all the way up to the top. Time will only tell to see what or who is involved. I don't think playing devils advocate will help just understand there is a process and if its found that leadership is the problem then that could be it for the company as a whole. I feel for you man I know you love this game and company and I know that so many that work there have that as well. Its rough it really is and it maybe time to really move on. customers are feeling bad, employees are abused, its not looking good for anyone.
My mother has often said she has never had a job where a boss has not made a pass at her.
@@boothbytcd6011 man like this being a norm is pretty f'ed up
@@boothbytcd6011 I'm a 37 y/o woman who's worked every job from service industry to office jobs. I've been hit on, or spoken to/touched inappropriately at every single one of them. In my life, I have met TWO men I can fully trust, and neither of those 2 were family.
Can’t really make a great expansion or great games if all of your employees are too busy getting drunk not doing their job and letting other people do their job for them it really speaks volumes to the leader ship there and not just the higher-ups I mean where is Ian if there’s people on the wow team doing this? Isn’t it kind of the managers job to make sure people are doing their jobs? It’s no wonder they have problems making games
You’re gay.
@ZavhallaTV What’s there to be confused about?
I'm sorry but People getting harrassed, rape, suicide, etc. Is a much bigger thing than your favorite game being bad. You're still gonna give them money every month and buy their expansion anyway, which is laughable imo
You also cannot make a good game, if you aren't directly thinking about how you make the game better, but rather what you have to do, to appease some arbitrary performance metric (sometimes based on personal opinions from superiors) and not get fired. Even if you deal with an underperforming employee, there are ways to deal with them appropriately, especially in a creative/UX environment your employee should not have to think about whether something that arguably would improve whatever they are working on, might get them fired. That's how you get a 30% drop in users.
It's like they decided to shoot their own foot and then the other, both hands on their dick, because they think they have the biggest, and now they are crawling on their pelvis, which is not even close to suitable for locomotion, but they are too proud to amputate their legs and get replacements.
When you've got stupid people who buy your games every year repeating the same content, do you really think they would care?
As a woman who's worked in male-dominated workplaces, even though I don't know anyone at Activision-Blizzard, I was not surprised. Sad and angry, yes. I imagine that not as many women as men were surprised in general.
In my experience, HR is almost always on the side of the company.
Yup, HR is there to protect the company, not the employees. Sad, but true.
"Every voice matters!"
Except for women that work at Blizzard. Despicable.
This is an absolute disappointing. All of their management staff needs to be held accountable. Especially the guy at the top who gave Alex a minor slap on the wrist while knowing what was happening among many other things. They fostered a toxic culture and deserve everything that's coming to them. This is so heartbreaking for most of us who fell in love with this game. All of this is so fucked up. Thanks for speaking on this.
what does toxic culture even mean
@@alkkoor3044 a place where cube crawls and passing nudes of staff around company Christmas parties is the norm. A work environment where women are harassed for being pregnant, where managers sexually harass their employees and women at the company stage an emergency meeting with JAB and nothing happens and he is free to continue his behaviour. This is absolutely a toxic working environment
@@alkkoor3044 A place where treating everyone with respect means absolutely nothing. inappropriate behavior is encouraged with no consequence. If you speak up about something horrible, nothing gets done. Unequal treatment, Men being favored over women even if they both have the same qualifications.
Case will get silenced now, Actizard will make Afrasiabi a "scapegoat", J.Allen Brack may resign, everything will be watered down within next few months. It's in our power and duty to show that company, how much we despise them by cancelling our subscriptions and cutting ties with that company once and for all.
Those things were known to highest situated people in blizzard and if we won't cut the head, monster will survive.
That's our duty, for that Woman, for Swifty, for Quinton Flynn, for Blitzchung, now or never.
Bibles of truth
You’re gay
That's not our duty. This is the duty of the people who's job is to investigate and give a fair punishment to these people. And unsubbing is going to create more suffering to the people who suffered in the company, including the women than it is to the already millionares who are the bosses. This is not as simple has just unsub. The only way to punish the already millionares that do this to women is to take from the personal wealth of this people, destroying the company will affect way more the families of the normal workers than it is of the people who did this.
Double check that. The crazy stalker represented *one* allegation against Flynn. His innocence of everything that's been alleged has not been proven, at all.
@@paulogaspar8295 the problem is here, the legal documents show its mostly going to be money they are seeking for reparations not putting the people responsible in jail or even fire them. So you have to vote with your wallet.
From now on when i think of Warcraft, the thought of that woman killing herself will be there too. I can NEVER play wow again
Their leadership should be purged, that should make an example to show people what happens under a toxic work work environment.
Well, that specific case was under Activision's umbrella and not under the blizzard wing. Although blizzard had their fair share of disgusting shit.
Between this, Blitzchung and just the overall disrespect they have for the players can we just agree Blizzard is irredeemable at this point?
Corporations and governments are irredeemable
Take a tally of how many WoW Creators will let this stop their raid night and get back to me. I count only Madseason leaving, and he was leaving anyway before this so..
Makes sense with the current way they’ve been writing female characters when they don’t know how to treat they’re own female employees
Allan is gonna need a biiiig rainbow pin to make this shit go away
And a bigger buttplug.
If jab got up on stage after this people would throw stuff at him.
Hope the right heads roll for this, what the actual hell, you know it is bad when the state department spends TWO YEARS investigating.
I spent 2 years investigating you for being gay. Any comments? 🎤
Nothing wouldn't surprise me from americans, their culture, ways, belief.. Corporations, companies, firms... Blizzard is long gone, lost, disconnected, hopeless and yeah fell down long before They've actually noticed any turmoil, problem ever happening...
If moreheim didn't know it's one of two things... either he's lying or he's completely awful at his job and what he does. And all evidence of his success points to the fact that he knows what he's doing..
The absence of human decency…
"Because gamers" is no excuse for disgusting behaviour.
@wowalinbie You liked your own comment to support your indirect defense of rape-speech and sexual harassment. Why?
Bellular certainly wasn't excusing that behaviour, but obviously it's a bit problematic. Kinda like saying "boys will be boys"
@wowalinbie This has the same energy as "All woman cheat" or "I hate all men". Stop generalizing like a moron. Out of all my gamer friends max 10% of them are like that
@@parkerrazz you suck at reading he wasn't giving a reason for an excuse he was saying neckbeard men are prone to being bad around women. No one here is in disagreement stop trying to find someone to take your anger out on its stupid and a waste of time 😒
@@fraserdrillblast5475 Women aren't innocent in this? You're victimizing males after something like this? Disgusting.
Its impressive how much Mike knows more due to his awareness of Blizzard, that you get more from his commentary of this than many of the other UA-camrs that have so far remarked on this.
Hearing this is the final straw. I am done with Blizzard. I've held on to my account for posterity and the idea that I would play again. No chance now.
I have heard the rumors of bad behavior at Blizzard, but this is horrible. The top leadership at the company has to go, no golden parachutes should be given.
Was looking forward to a statement from you, Bellular. Thank you, as always! Hope you feel better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and not remain silent/complacent about this.
The truly depressing thing is this is probably just the tip of the tip of the iceberg. I hope this opens the door for more women to come forward from all over the world.
The fact that they let Alex quietly leave with no repercussions to presumably keep acting the same way elsewhere, is emphatically not a point in Blizzard's favour.
I really hope even more people leave because of this.
It is sad someone must died 4 these elites to wakeup 😒🥺
Rip the poor girl.
It certainly didn't wake up the Bliz elite. Have you read their statement?
@@divineone1 not yet but it sure got attention 😊
@@divineone1 just went n read it 😳
Its PR at this point. Confidentiality is most likely in affect 😊
They're still not woke. Their official response says it all.
@@omgwtfbbqkitty i guess we will see 😶 When all is said n done i hope this changes the industry 😊
Blizz will be made a xample.
Can we quit white knighting certain high ranking employees that have already left and acting like it's Activision or didn't start until Activision. One of them has a new company and possibly helped cultivate this environment. FFS.
The timing of it all does raise further questions.
We don't know yet or the reasons, so it's unfair to blast them yet until we have more information.
It's a possibility that when they merged and Activision culture started getting into blizzard, they didn't have the power to stop it and left as they didn't want to be part of that culture.
For example when Jeff Kaplin left Blizzard, his final paragraph on his goodbye letter read along the lines of 'I want to thank those that supported our game team and every game developer at the company' followed by a weird line about how not everything is what it seems to be.
Everyone at the time commented on how that was weird, that he hadn't thanked the entire team which is the usual thing to do and he followed with a message which didn't make sense in the context.
Its plausible, he saw what was going on, couldn't stop it and left as he didn't want to be part of that culture. Now its also plausible he was part of it but we don't know.
It's also worth noting that prior to the merger where Activision took control, Blizzard was rated as one of the best places to work by there own employees and not one person has actually come out and said anything like this was happening prior to the merger, it's all after it.
As its so bad at Activision that someone took there own life, its again plausible that it's Activision culture that caused it when they bought that culture over to Blizzard and Activision HR team is to blame for not stopping it.
To end, we don't know if the old guard took part in it, ignored it or tried to stop it but was powerless as the control was in Activisions side and it was Activisions 'untouchsbles' being the main culprits. So we're not white Knighting them, we're just balancing the hate calls until we know more.
@@crompee You realize two people named are old guard right? RIGHT? (Brack 2006, Afraisaibi 2004?) The timing of the leavings (Kaplan and Afraisaibi) and Blizzard employees knew of this investigation. Morhaime was President during this time and left in 2018 right before the investigations started. So timings say they know. They saw it. They didn't even try to fix it. Some things go back pre-2013. Employees would get drunk and rummage through floors harassing female employees trying to actually do the work.
It all adds up quite simply, the delays, the difficulty getting things done and deployed. The toxic, almost violent defending of "the old guard," including Morhaime and sadly Metzen has to stop. They were there when it happened. If they weren't part of it they turned a blind eye. They were in positions of power and sat on their hands.
@@crompee And I know from direct coms the toxicity was before then. Also directly know males that did not join in or stood against it were ridiculed, harassed themselves.
Before you say "why didn't they leave?" I will say, a friend who has been there before 2008 has been trying to fix finances since the 2008 economic crash. They have tried finding other jobs but Blizzard hasn't been a shoe in since the early 2000s.
You can tell this video is serious because of the poor video and audio quality. That tells you that Bellular was so passionate about this topic, that he threw this video together himself with absolutely no idea how to operate his own camera and audio equipment.
low key felt like a youtube apology video at the beginning lol
I'm pretty sure a UA-camr of multiple years experience knows how to operate a camera? It's just not edited.
🤣🤣🤣
A cynic could say that it was deliberate, to give the video more gravitas, but I don’t think Belular would sink that low
@@Paveway-chan given his tendency to clickbait for views I can see it would be the case, but I digress. important topic regardless bellular's intentions
Blizzard "Asmongold and those like him are toxic and bad for our game"
Also Blizzard "Cube Crawl!!!" "Well, she might get pregnant, promote the man" "Cosby Suite"
Also Also Blizzard "How dare the State of California!!!!! They should have worked WITH us"
At this point, Bellular staying with Blizzard on his channel is a glowing example of Stockholm syndrome.
Dude, Bellular's whole income + the income of his employees depends on it. Of course he's continuing for the moment. Time will tell if he's working on something else.
That's really fcking harsh dude. The guy has lived for the game for over a decade. In what way do you think he's defending them? It's his whole life.
Asmongold is just as bad, if not worse. I'm hoping one day they both decide to just cut the cord because at some point, it won't be worth it anymore.
@@x_voxelle_x dunno why you get on their case for this, asmon spoke out heavily about it, but his entire business is centered around it, and people who do play the game are not responsible for what happens at blizzard, get that out of your tiny little head right now, if you want to attack someone go to those truly responsible, you are 100% one of those guys who harrasses random blizz employees and streamers who play a blizz game, take ur baby rage and focus it on the ACTUAL culprit.
@@empi2597 Welp, it came full circle. Myself and others have warned Bellular and Taliesin about dedicating content to a corrupt company and here it is: Blizzard has officially discontinued working on anything amid allegations. Blizzard is shut down. Now these channels are forced to cover the case if they want any WoW content. Then, if they go back to playing after covering everything that was said and done, after months of Blizzard in court, they are gonna look even worse than they are already.
That was really good. Thank you. As depressing and awful as this is, though, I did get an actual laugh when you read the, ‘But I worship Gloria Steinem!” part. Nothing could sum up the empty platitudes vs the grotesque reality better. I fully expected him to end with, “Didn’t you see my rainbow pin?” When you talked about a new employee joining the company, seeing the leaders they’d admired, then the creepy reality, I thought of the women who joined, gamers themselves, believing they were part of this amazing team, only to realize they were prey, an amusement - that is brutal. It’s sad, but we can pick our path forward, and leave them where they belong - apparently in some dark corner of the Fifties.
The 1950s struck again. I saw how evil people were back then in a movie made by the Weinstein company. Thank god I live in modern California, a utopia coming about.
dunno if this has already been said.... but there's a difference between a rockstar mentality/lifestyle/whatever and a mentality that its acceptable to hit on coworkers, touch them inappropriately and joke about r*pe. Pretty sure these bruhs were entitled creeps before they hit gaming celebrity status. That being said, I appreciate you taking this situation seriously and commenting on it.
I think you are dead on, yes power corrupts but at a certain point you just gotta look and really see only scumbags do this power or not.
Exactly. And the whole ‘boys club’ mentality about gaming in general is so so pervasive. Look at how the players treat women. The whole nerd culture is rife with misogyny and has been for years.
Women were ‘in gaming’ in a big way since the 70s. One of the biggest gaming companies in the 80s and 90s was co-founded by a woman. Acting like we’re ‘new’ to gaming is part of the problem. Acting like nerd things are for boys is part of the problem. It makes it hard for women to get in the industry, it makes it hard for women to advance, and puts them in a position where they have no leverage. It sucks and it’s stupid.
@@lokilxix power makes scumbags more open to doing scummy things
When you start your video without the usual fanfare intro, you know this is gonna get personal.
Thanks for talking about this, it's a really hard topic to discuss over a game we have all loved for almost 20 years. We CHEERED these guys at every con, while behind the curtains their own employees were afraid and traumatized. It's gonna take a lot to fix this.
Why can’t people just leave people alone. The point of your work is do your job and go home to keep your lights on, instead you have the fools trying to act like they’re at a club, wtf. Work is for work nothing else.
whelp the motivation at blizzard is even lower now
As we’ve been saying all these years. The only WoW killer will be WoW (or Activision/Blizzard)
I was initially going to play TBC classic, but I had grown increasingly uncomfortable with giving my money to Activision Blizzard due to how they have treated both their devs and players.
So when you and Matt started talking about FFXIV I made the switch.
Not only have I had a great time, but after everything that has happened these last month I have become increasingly happy I made the switch.
Im glad you are happier playing a game you enjoy. I dont think there's anything to be happy about in this situation though.
Japan worker works 24/7 on drugs so they dont Fall asleep, no holiday, shit payment, little ass room to life but yeah they have an vetter Work place 😂 you are fucking lost
@wowalinbie @ZiggyWestGODX Just because some Japanese companies are like that, doesn't mean that they all are. If you would actually look into the history of the FFXIV team, you would know that.
It's disturbing information. But why I'm not surprised? Compay is going down hill for several years now. It's sad.