Before you set off for a 30 night adventure, you absolutely have to go away somewhere closer to home with all the gear, for a couple of nights at least. Even if it's a campsite 20 minutes from home. That way you can check everything is working as it should, the tent doesn't have any missing poles etc. You can get the feel of the bikes' handling with the additional weight. If you are riding every day and pitching the tent in a different place every day, you'll need a tent that's quick to set up and take down. You don't want to be doing it in the dark. Are you wild camping or using campsites? I would suggest campsites as you've not done this before. At least with a campsite you have shower and toilet facilities. Some sites have somewhere to dry wet things when the weather isn't great as well. Stay safe you lovely people x
Hi, yes thats all very good advice. We will have a practice run soon like you say and try to discover any problems before we go on the big tour. Yes we will use proper campsites, a proper toilet and shower is essential. Our plan is to go slow and see more this time so we will alway try to finish well before dark to allow time to set up etc...
We really like food and the whole process of finding good ingredients and cooking it up so we are also looking forward to this part of it, we should have plenty of time in the evenings for this so hoping this tour will be a slower pace than our usual epic journeys
When changing a tyre take your time and use plenty of lobe also keep the tyre pushed down in the rim or spend the money on a tubeless conversion also remember to match the dot on the tyre with the valve
Thanks Keith, I’ve been watching lots of tutorials etc I plan to change my tube at home in the next few days so hopefully I will have at least one successful tube change under my belt before we go on the next tour.
Ewa is expectation, i am reality lol! Dont worry im just as game, If we can make it comfortable we can make our travels so much more affordable, which means we can do more... Got any top tips for us?
@ontheroadadventure we manage on one bike, so its harder for us. Your lucky enough to be able to carry a decent size tent, weve been trawling the net looking for a pop up one for a good price, as its no fun putting up a tent in the rain. We're looking at the Slummit Gobi as it has a bit of a porch. None of the outdoor shops really cater for bikers needing ultra light weight stuff, its all online, so you dont get to check it out first.
@@a2bmotorcyclemovers2 yeah we found the same problem, you’d think there would be a huge store somewhere with all the top brands you can think of. Best we have found so far is go outdoors and that’s closing down
@@a2bmotorcyclemovers2 We have so much we want to tell you all already…. Just can’t make it up lol… A couple more weeks of work and then we are both all in…
Test your camping equipment before you go. Before leaving for Scandinavia, I set up camp in my friends' garden, and after the first night I knew I needed a better sleeping bag. Thanks to this experience, I didn't get cold later on Noordkapp. Stay safe guys.
Ive got the same bike as you both, i have fitted the Outex tape conversion to front and rear wheels , so now carry tubless plug kit with the mini gas cannisters ,also carry a 12v pump, i have the Vango Galaxy 300 tent for camping, you can stand up and change your clothes etc ,not to heavy to strap to back seat, Good luck & hope to see u "on the road " one day ,great videos by the way .
Thanks so much for joining us. As I understand the Outex tape is not ideal on tubed wheels? I’ve head tyres can come off at low pressures and that the tape can fail? I’m not sure I have much confidence in that… Sounds like it’s just fancy gaffa tape lol
Bless you both.. You so remind me of our experiences.. I have camped across Europe, and enjoyed it in the main.. Although must admit I'd rather have a proper bed in a hotel anyway.. Or we did do some glamping at the bikers camp in Wales which was good.. Anyway, tent wise, try the tents first.. See the displays.. We used to need at least a 4 berth. Need storage and slightly more room in case of bad weather and you are stuck in your tent.. Buy a double skinned tent, and able to take constant rain.. (not all tents are the same I promise you..). Look forward to your next video..
Cheers Phil, Bikers campsite is great, we stayed in the pod there. Its good that your comments are confirming what we think we know to be the right decision. We are very close to being the all the gear and no idea camping couple!
Go for a tent that is slightly bigger than you think you need ( carrying a little extra bulk on the bike is far better than uncomfortable night ) and really do your homework to choose one that is easy to put up and take down.
One tip that's a must do, pitch whatever tent you get in your garden or anyone that will let you, just to get used to how it goes up, use a sprinkler over it to make sure it's waterproof and you know how to do the guy lines, poles, it won't be as difficult when you do it for real on your tour. Also, tents always seem a lot bigger when trying to pack them away again after the 1st unpacking. In fact, test all of your new gear, from cooking equipment to making sure your sleeping arrangements won't deflate during the night. I'm looking forward to watching your tour. Thanks for sharing and see you on your next adventure ✌️ 🤙 🤟
Hi, that all sounds like good advice, we will do our best to have at least one test camp before we go and try to find any problems, We are buying all new kit which is a plus but of course this means at the moment its untested and we have almost zero camping experience! What have we done!
How do we source power from electric hookups when camping to charge gadgets each evening? we went to go outdoors today who shown us a huge great 4 gang with 10 meters of cable and a adapter! far too big for us
@@ontheroadadventure some camping sites have electric hook ups, that you'll have to ask the owners, most do, though you'll pay a little more for electricity access 😉
@@ontheroadadventure oops I miss read your message, you can run a small cable into your tent which will be sheltered from the elements and the hook up itself should be weather proof with a rain cover. I've not actually used one myself, so that I'm afraid to say would be down to asking the owners of the site where you'll be staying, even more difficult if it's abroad. Just different plugs I guess and there are plenty about.
I love these video’s ,my first camping trip in France iI spent 2 nights in tent .woke up the second morning and packet everything up in a nice ball and true it in the bin ,had a great 3 week trip after that .😂
Yes. I rode both the 400’s settled on the scrambler as I want to do a bit of light off road, tracks and lanes. Perfect lightweight for that where we both live. Best get it coated to recover a bit of your winter costs 😂😂😂
I think you have made a fantastic choice, i think this bike is perfect and capable to do any kind of riding and at the price its a steal.... I am certain these will rise in price over the next couple years considerably
Can’t fault you. I know I’ve said before about a small tent,but I’ve changed my mind, because there’s 2 of you,you can share the kit on the bikes,the reason I pack down small is because I’m solo camping, you can take a palace with you now,all the best guys,👏🏴✊KTF.
With two bikes , you've got lots of carrying capacity , Get a big tent , but not one of those with a garage , they are ridiculous . Take a tarp and poles as well for additional cover . Camp chairs make life tolerable too . Cooking gear , keep it simple , my favourite is the Swedish army Messkit , avoid the expensive gasoline burners unless you're absolutely sure you want that kind of thing . Cooking on a fire is best , so don't spend a lot on pans etc . Plates , bowls and cutlery can weigh a lot so go lightweight and use foldable bowls to save space Practice your puncture repair - tyre replacement . Take 3 tyre levers and you can use washing up liquid as a tyre lubricant , also there's a way to fit tyres using cable ties , so check that out . And a good powerful electric tyre compressor obviously . Tools, but just enough for every bolt and screw on the bike ,+ gaffer tape , hose clamps etc. I prefer soft panniers , Mosko and Kriega are expensively very good , Lomo is cheap , cheerful and easily replaced .Either/Or . [ Aluminum boxes are a no no for me after getting my leg trapped under them a couple of times .] Soft sided cooler for food and drinks , especially the drinks . The more camping you do , the easier it gets and the more you look forward to it . So go for it !
@ontheroadadventure I use a car booster Jumpstart thing . The bike charges it up when I'm riding . It's probably bigger than I need . But it will start a diesel truck so bikes and phones etc are no problem .
Aww Love ewa’s enthusiasm. I think it’s important to be as comfortable as possible we have a Vango 4 , always go up two berth dead easy to put up. Always have a few practise set ups in a garden.Has some nice storage bits each end. Had a rare sunny day today and jumped out on the bike but still chilly does take the edge of roads still rubbish. But good therapy 👍
Lol Lets see how the Enthusiasm is when reality hits after a few days lol We both really want to be good at the motocamping and make it comfortable, it will enable us to do so much more travelling. It seems going larger on the tent is the thing to do which we are pleased about, we dont fancy the small tents really even if its more sensible for carrying. We just returned from a local bike night, Nice to get out and ride whenever possible
Loving the vlogs . Love your optimism on camping for a month !!! Done it for a week on the bikes and if you don’t have a comfy bed then your back will give you hell to then have to ride a bike as well !! But enjoy I’m sure you will love it or hate it . Keep the vlogs going
Should just point out that if you get a puncture and just replace the inner tube, you need to make sure the inside of the tyre hasn't got any metal sticking out, which could puncture the new inner tube. Something I learnt when I got a puncture on my Interceptor. Good luck with the camping!
When there's two of you , I would take as BIG a TENT as you want. When the weathers CRAP its a GODSEND. If the weathers great its not an issue. I ALLWAYS carry both. Best of both worlds. There not heavy. You will decide whats best. 👍👍👍
Thanks Ian, its great that your comments are confirming our thoughts and that we not being silly going for a bigger tent even though we will have extra to carry
Hi just a suggestion on the tube change get a cheep wheel and tyre off The net and practice on that not on your nice rims another great vid thanks good luck with the camping
Thats a really good idea, but in this case i have a Heavy duty Tube in my rear from the problem in Italy on the last tour so id like to swap it for what should be there again so il have a go at that and see how i get on i guess
It's already been said in other comments. tent, go bigger rather than lighter. Lone Rider or Wolf Walker or Redverz, there is even a Vango that does the same job. 6kgs is not huge when you have two bikes.... actually it's not huge solo, but you guys can share the load. Definitely do an overnighter, somewhere close to home, say Bude or Boscastle or maybe North Devon. You HAVE to try your kit out before you go and with enough time between try out and trip to change things if needed. Sleep systems are the hardest things to get right as it's very hard to advise. Bit of a haul but it might be worth a ride up to Attwooll's near Gloucester as they have a massive display area / showroom. They are not super cheap but you can at least see what you are thinking of buying. The cafe there serves some excellent cake too.
Thanks Neil, we will look that shop up, we have been trying to find just this, We have found Go outdoors only offer more budget stuff and another camp store we went to had very little to actually show us. We will try and do as you say and do a practice camp soon
On all my trips I mix it up ... some camping and then a few nights in a hotel ... 90% of my trips I go solo and use a 2 man tent minimum and have the extra space ... I have had £400+ tents but always return to my trusty Eurohike Tamer 2, its pitches as one, loads of space and it was £40 (think now around £60?) ... but when my missus came the odd time we used a 3 person as the bike can take the weight and size no issue. But with you both riding then you can go large and just split the weight ... one has the main tent, one has the poles and pegs etc you will appreciate the space and then when it gets a bit like too much hard work then an hotel, too hot or too wet for camping etc .... What I have learnt is this, unless I am 100% going to do any wild camping then I dont haul the stove, cooking stuff, pans etc etc ... just the tent, mat and sleeping bag, dont even do a pillow as I just fold up my jeans and jacket and place my Airhawk seat cushion, comfy as owt! 😉
We are decided on a large 4 man tent, as you say we need more room, we will also need to be editing and doing youtube stuff as we go so will need a comfortable space. Getting enough power for all our tech is our next concern...
We did look at the lone rider but the sleeping area is not big enough for two XL Sleeping mats. The smaller one fits the mats and would be great for shorter trips
There is a big difference between doing a one night try out with a tent and weeks at a time in one. Particularly with two of you needing to get dressed into your biking kit then, take down and pack away in the morning and set up again that evening. Make sure you give it some thought.
😂 I love Rich’s enthusiasm! We’re off Moto camping at the beginning of May for the first time and are currently buying all sorts of crap we probably don’t need. Ideally I would have liked the Lone Rider Moto tent but decided on a cheaper Vango Beta 550 to start with, that I picked up from John Lewis for £175. It’s probably a bit big really but sits ok on the back of my Tiger 1200. And I can stand up in it which is a must for me. We’re planning a test weekend sometime soon when it warms up a little bit to iron out the wrinkles in the kit. I’m really looking forward to your videos of this. 😊
Yeah we have also gone for a big tent we can stand in. One look at those small tents you need to crawl in and out of put me right off! The most common advice seems to be spend big on your sleep system and get the best you can afford, we have done this so banking on it being bearable!
@@ontheroadadventure not sure if we’ve got the sleep system sorted or not, but a trial run will soon answer that. We also discovered bags you can pee in overnight to save having to do the trip to the loo in the small hours. They’re called Peebol and available on Amazon. We used them at a festival last year and they worked really well.
I’m with you Richard, a few nights in a tent then a hotel. If you go somewhere sunny I find a tent is fine but if it rains it makes you want to slash your wrists. I agree with the bigger tent. I started with something the size of a coffin but soon traded up. The accepted advice is always get a tent one more berth than you need. I’ve seen some excellent reviews of the ‘Wingman of the Road’ single berth which includes mattress and sleeping bag. They also do a two berth version which maybe worth looking at but I suspect will be too small. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with
We saw the Wingman ones but the pack size is massive and the space when up is small. Doesnt make sense for us, nice idea if alone though just for simplicity
I’m new to watching you guys I think you’re great say how it is and I know it’s not nice having the problems you come across but you work them out and you both make me laugh doing a runner from a pretty ruff looking site/tent that made me cry keep up the brilliant entertainment cheers Les
Loved the video Eva was saying with carvery you only go once if you’ve got a TOBY down yours you can go up for seconds the only thing you can’t do is have meat again but everything else you can have ride safe
@@ontheroadadventure yes you can have as much as you like go up as may times as you like and help yourself to all veg obviously roasties and of course the gravy I’ve been going to them every now and again for last 10 years it’s not bad quality if your near one try it you might be surprised anyway ride safe down there I’m holidaying in Cornwall in June eat lots of pasty’s😂😂😂
If you riding in the ass end of nowhere take a tent if your not don’t bother. “Been there done that” I’ve lived in the same area as you all my life but the traffic nowadays is driving me mad so we all need to get away for our sanity. Love your true to life content. Cheers
Yeah we know the feeling, I used to enjoy being a City boy, the older i get the more i want to abandon ship and go find the Quite life with less people and traffic around.
You can’t beat a nice cosy hotel, en-suite and a decent toilet!!! Camping is uncomfortable, noisy and you really don’t get the sleep you need for the ride ahead.
Hi,if you haven't got a compressor to blow up your tube,I'd recommend the "Rocky Creek" About £65 .Avoids the potential heart attack from using a cycle pump! I do love motorbike camping but you do have to take a load of gear to make it comfortable - definitely recommend a chair and a pillow.As others have said during a long journey it's good to take a few days out in a hotel and treat yourselves.After doing camping several times now I've got a checklist of kit but it's different for everyone but happy to share. Richard (Bristol 500cbx)
Hi Rich, yes we would be interested to see your checklist and see if we are missing anything! Are you on the FB group? Search On the Road adventure riders group and you can post pics there 👍
Guys an advice: I don't know what program you use to edit the videos, but add a compressor effect to the audio because there's too much difference between the different sections, from inside the helmet, when you talk outside, the music, and so on. That will keep every sound at the same level. Cheers.
If you're going to a formal camp site with showers, etc, I found them to be not that much cheaper than a cheap hotel/b&b, so the maths in going camping saving money is significantly different when taking that and the cost of EVERYTHING (including all your previous "test" equipment) you've bought to go camping. Give me a small room with a shared bathroom down the hallway compared to camping any day! What IS very handy and will save money is taking some cooking gear. All said and done, I wish you well. Just stay in a hotel every now and again to recharge your batteries, figuratively and literally! 😁👍
But it all looks lovely and cosy according to ewa…. She’s been watching too many UA-cam videos lol Who knows maybe it will be as good as those guys make it look 😬
Hi guys, we found a 4 person tent was a great size for 2 people plus 2 sets of gear etc, worth the sacrifice in weight. Also, on the Benelli trk 502x, I had an issue with the bike not starting, turned out to be faulty tip sensor which was replaced no issues under warranty... bike is just over a year old... at the same time I tried to get replacement hand guards as the finish was falling off around the bolts, but they said warranty on paint is only 6 months!...
@@Blumen_adventures Yeah I mean firstly, only those two minor issues in 20k isn’t bad to be fair, I can definitely accept that at £6.5k with full luggage… In a way I can understand a shorter warranty on the paint etc, a someone with experience as a motorcycle detailer I have seen how poorly some people will look after their own bikes, and so it must be hard to offer a fair promise on it’s longevity, although it is a shame being that you have been looking after yours
@ontheroadadventure yeah, I wasn't overly surprised I must say, and it didn't really bother me too much, I will just get them powder coated sometime soon as we get stuff powder coated at work, so will add it in with a job. looking forward to seeing how you get on with tent life mate, Im sure once you find the right gear etc you will be all good
I have A Kyham biker tent which is a pop up. Video on UA-cam worth a try bit pricey but work for me at 3 berth got loads of room and cheap camping chair off ebay 😀
Hi guys can’t wait for the next adventure, how about changing your back tyres to tubeless so all you need to do is put a plug in would be a lot easier the front is easier to get off
Love it, when it is pissing it down and you can’t dry your gear it will be all your idea about going camping 😂 nice warm bed and breakfast all day long. Hats off to you both for having ago. Can not wait for the video stay safe both of you 👍👍
I can remember a particularly wet two weeks in Cornwall where everything was wet. We ended up sitting in a launderette in perranporth to dry everything out. Still camping 50 years later, but have learnt more about camping since then.
Hi guys love watching your adventures, we have also had many fantastic motorcycle travel adventures over the years. But a must on the motorcycle bucket list is to tour northern Sweden and Norway. We moved form Cornwall and now own a B&B in Swedish Lapland, which you would be more than welcome to stop overnight. Not unless you enjoy putting your tent up and down every night. Roads are amazing and very little traffic, stunning landscape. You are also allowed to stop and set up your tent almost anywhere. Just an idea and always good to plan and explore other places. Ride safe and looking forward to your next adventure, :-)
Hi, We maywell take you up on that! If you message us either here or on the Facebook group your details we will add your BnB to our map, We would love to come there
Excellent looking carvery! And love old moult, excellent to see they have an alcohol free one 😊 Definitely try a few nights away first, get the bigger then for room when it’s raining as it’s miserable having no space, get a good insulated mattress and chuck a silver blanket under it too. Not sure I’d manage 30 nights without a few B&B’s along the way, unless the weather here was exceptionally good 😂
Hi Jennie, Yes we have spent a small fortune on our Thermarest mats and Looking at silly expensive sleeping bags as we speak. We realise if we get this wrong, the game is up... Im with you on the 30 nights being too much but we will see how it pans out...
Same here, one of our mats died over the summer and made for an uncomfortable weekend away, I need to get a new one, possibly a klymit double. I lusting over sea to summit or big Agnes sleeping bags, but alll the £££ Oh, camp shoes I live in flip flops, but not always great if we’re doing lots of exploring, so I chuck some lightweight hiking trainers Altra or Salamon and yes! I own crocs 🤣 I laughed at bringing a hair dryer 😉 my camping hair = fluffy curly mess hidden by a neck buff or plaits or stolen 🧢
Check out the Nemo Disco 15 Sleeping bag, thats a strong contender, i also like the look of the Zenbivvy but they are in america so would have customs on top of the outrageous prices.. I do draw the line at crocs! @@JennieAshdown
@@ontheroadadventure ooh, I’ve actually added that in my Amazon list so I’ll have another look before I order anything. Ha ha I tried not too, for a long time, but in the end midnight loo trips and showers and nearly sliding about to my death in flip flops I gave in. They are black and the least conspicuous looking I could find 🤣🤣
@ontheroadadventure yes and to this day if I need cheering up then I go back and watch that episode. But honestly you both are great and I love watching your vids, very inspiring, thank you. Maybe see you out on the roads one of these days.
I’ve been bike camping for years now, tried literally 10-15 different tents from small, easy erect, large, exoskeleton ones, 1 man , 2 man & 3 man ones but always go back to the Redverz for the headroom, space and porch area where you can sit & cook or chill out. Also have the awning kit which is great for sunny days for a shield from the sun. Having 4 doors it’s great in hot weather too for airflow.
If you get any new inner tubes get the standard thickness .they are easier to fit and most tubes that fail on an adventure bike are caused by over heating over time due to high speeds on a heavy bike .thinner tubes don't build up some much heat Thick tubes are better left to low speed light Enduro bike. Can't wait to see your trip I like you guys.
Thanks martin, yeah i been watching lots of youtube vids on this and now im concerned enough about the Heavy duty MX tube thats in mine from Italy that im going to have a practice go at home with the new tools etc and see if i can change the tube without pinching it
We've got the same tyre levers and put them to the test this weekend swapping the tyres on mine (rather than using the more workshop type). They do work but it's worth carrying a small bottle of shampoo to lubricate the bead, both for refitting the tyre and for breaking the bead. On our tigers the fronts easy as it doesn't have the safety bead but the rear has a tubeless profile so was a pain to break hence the need for some lubricant. Previously we've used a small tent which easily fits in one pannier but due to headroom issues have gone for a larger one this year that will go across the pillion seat. For me an advantage is that it will also act as a back rest. We'll probably also take the small one just for ease of pitching and as there's 2 of us space isn't an issue. Bed wise there's a lot to be said for the oex cot beds, more comfy in my opinion than the self inflating tyes and neither big or heavy when packed away.
You dont have tubes on the tiger? Its pinching the tube that was a big problem the last time i tried this... OEX do some good stuff, We didnt consider the cots, will see how the matts work out now we spent so much on them
Ours are the 800 xc, so spoked and tubed. With hind sight we should have gone for the xr with alloys that are tubeless but as with most things bike related you buy with the heart 😂😂. The 1200s and 900s have tubeless spoked wheels like the gs but at the time they were cost prohibitive.
We agree with you! We been looking at MSR habitute 4 as it’s big enough can stand up inn and under 6kg. What is your go to tent or do you have a better suggestion for us?
Don´t do the 30 nights. Go for 2-3 max and than a night in a hotel/airbnb. The possibility of taking a normal shower is one of the best things and feels like all the luxury you were missing your whole life. And as someone else already said, if you have bad luck with the weather your equipment and clothes will never get dry.
We plan to use proper camp sites so hopefully toilets and shower etc wont be a issue, I suspect we will end up in hotels at least sometimes but i guess time will tell
This will be hysterical, bring it on. Please don't kill each other. BTW bigger tent 100%, especially in bad weather. Keep some space to buy food ingredients. And of course the age-old hunt for lightweight camping chairs. If you're doing payed camp sites you can get away without a chair Don't forget the head torch.
Funny for you Vince!! Nah I think it will be a entertaining trip no matter how it works out in the end, we will either master moto camping or it will come to a end in a dramatic I told you so kinda way! Oxford products have given us some folding chairs that seem good. Head torch is a good one and needs to be bought. Is there a well known one or really good brand to get?
I guess time will tell one way or the other… I’m not a fan of tyre slime, if we have a puncture I want to know about it before I’m doing motorway speeds with goo holding the air inside my tube.. I think changing tubes is just a skill il have to learn
We have discovered our XL Sleeping matts dont quite fit in the big lone rider tents sleeping compartment so that one is ruled out, however there small one looks good for short trips
Well, you have a point there, you can always take this with you on the road, then at least you can drive again, until you can replace it, Benson Tire Repair Spray - 500 ml, I put the name here since a link is not possible, just search on the internet
Carry On Camping 2024!! I can't wait 🤣 suzannemathews6268 makes a very good point tbf, get the mistakes ironed out before the big trip! Regarding the puncture thing, it's not very fair people pointing the finger at you? A puncture in a tubeless tyre is usually fixable at the side of the road, not so easy with a tubed tyre!!! Great video as always, love you guys x
Thanks bud, yes upto now ive always carried a couple methods of plugging a tubeless tyre, and fixed many, but we got caught out on the twins, Its a skill i am going to have to master! We will try to practice all these things before we go if we can get time, as you say, try and find problems here before it matters
Hi here's one for ya going to Australia soon Brisbane to cairns . & back . About 4.000 miles 12 days camping most of the way up . Riding mt07 . Wish me luck . Is it a mistake .... 😊 Rolley
Hi Roland, an adventure is never a mistake! I wonder, what precautions do you take when camping in Australia against snakes and other nasties getting to you in the tent when camping?
Hi well I tell them to go away normally works :) secondly never open the tent at night . You never know what out there because every thing wants to eat you :) :) . Snakes well one won't go looking for them that's for sure . But the biggest thing to watch out for is them big hopping things to get off the roads before roo time . This trip will be on utube hopefully. On my Assie frends channel roads I'v ridden . He's says in 5 parts if it goes to plan . This will be my 5th trip to Australia & have covered a few thousand miles now on my adventure in mostly Queensland. A 500 mile ride would be like a normal days ride out as you can just eat up the miles so easily & get enough protein from the bugs in your face . :( :) :) England fits in Australia 39 times & Oueensland 9 times . Lifes adventure one life live it everyday. Rolley :)
Why not a part camping part hotel holiday? I’ve tried camping many times when I was younger but now I cringe at the thought… even so there’s a part of me that sees the appeal. Funny thing is I used to love being cozy in the tent when it was raining, provided it didn’t leak!
Hi guys, if it is any consolation it is cold with snow flurries here in central France. If it was me touring I would leave it a month before setting off.
Trouble with lone rider is it isnt big enough in the sleep area for our two large Air matts, we bought xl thermarest. Also the area out side the bed room is exposed to the grass, creepy crawlies etc. We want our kit inside in the dry. Dont want Scorpions in our boots!
We did consider the 300 can go but we notice it’s not sealed between the ground sheet and tent which means snakes and scorpions can get into the living area… Don’t fancy that too much…
Where on earth are you going?🙂 From the tents I’ve got and have seen the inner is usually sealed to keep the bugs out but the groundsheet isn’t sewn in. That will give you better ventilation to stop condensation. There can be pitching benefits too eg if it’s raining putting the outer up first or taking the inner out first, packing separately to keep things dry. One more tip split the tent when packing distribute a bit of weight and pack in dry bags. Enjoy the outdoors! 🙂
The cheapest way to go tubeless is probably Outex. I wouldn't recommend it. It's not a proper job. It's why I didn't mention it before. If you don't want to spend between 1500 and £1700 per bike getting proper tubeless wheels, you'd be better off learning to change a tube, but that's not fun when it's dark and wet beside the road. You'll need to practice at home. Its easy enough once you've got the technique right and practiced. Basically you've got the wrong bikes for foreign travel. Sorry.
I’m confident I can learn to be efficient at changing the tubes, it’s like anything, easy once you know how. I bought the motion pro bead breakers and I’m going to have a go before we leave at changing my tube…
@@ontheroadadventureBreaking the bead is only part of the job. The bead breaker will add to the clutter and weight that you carry, and will very rarely get used. I suggest using the centre stand on the second bike to break the bead. It's also possible to use the bike that has the punctur, but it's more awkward. Also, bear in mind that you need to carry additional clobber with you: a decent set of tyre levers (I recommend the original Buzzetti ones, but they're not small or light); some lube for the tyre; a spare tube - a 19" will do for both at a pinch :); and a means of inflating the tyre afterwards. And some spare clothes incase you end out doing the work in 30-odd degrees. Don't worry about the thick tube that they fitted in Italy, but if you are concerned about it being balanced properly, just remove the wheel and balance it.
@@RedRupert64 I’d rather have the kit and have a chance at repairing it myself even if it means carrying it all round with us. Luckily we have two bikes to spread all our stuff over
@@ontheroadadventure Yes, I understand where you're coming from, but Ewa is already planning to pack a hairdryer with a battery, so there won't be much free space on her bike!
@RedverzGear They have a proper a motorcycle tent, and the rest of the gear you ned to go camping. You have two bikes and room for a big tent and chairs. A small tent is not good for several night`s, for me anyway. 😉
😂 camp not a chance b&b or Hotel every time especially a I'm way older than you especially as we are 2up. My thoughts on Home to Rome don't try to cover to may miles per day. if you use the motorway yes you can do bigger miles, in the mountains or off the main roads you have drop the miles. We try to be on the road by 9 and at the accommodation by 16.30 but whatever you do enjoy it which you do in spades 😊
Brian, you are spot on! Our Previous tours have always been B roads and far less but the Home to Rome had time restraints which we would never do again as this was the first and last time we did so much motorways as a plan. Go slow and see more is the plan, also we want to show you guys places and experiences, not just riding and roads. Motocamping is going to be a much slower pace for a longer time.... Thats our plan anyway...
Can you not fit tubeless tyres save the hassle of carrying tubes, Rich where’s the positivity once you get the hang of erecting the tent and a routine between the two of you I’m sure you’ll enjoy it all the more, or is it a case of you prefer your home comforts when on tour and that’s understandable
Honestly - I really want the Moto camping to work and to be comfortable.... We will see how it pans out... Its just my sense of humour thats all. The Africa twin would need different wheels to go tubless really and thats just too costly for us
I ride a lot in Europe on the "Trans Euro Trail" which is an off-road route through Europe I use to camp with the lightest tent I could but now I pretty much use local accommodation wherever I'm traveling through using Airbnb or Internet search or even just asking the locals and the value as been incredible. I still carry the tent just in case 🤷🏻 but my last 3 trips I haven't used it 🤔. I've also changed a lot of tubes 😂 technique is the key and until you've got that down it'll be a bastard, you can always help by using "slime" -" puncture sealant" in the tubes but you guys on the big adventure bikes like balanced and I'm not sure if you can balance the wheel with slime in 🤷🏻
Hi, yes I did look into the slime but I’m not keen on the idea of riding at motorways speeds not knowing if goo is holding my tube together, I’d rather know I had a problem and deal with it. I have looked at the ACT but do you think that would be too risky on big Africa twins fully loaded with hard panniers? Could be an expensive mistake?
@@ontheroadadventure I rode the ACT Pyrenees September just gone there are a couple of very easy gravel roads that I think would be very easy going if you wanted to include them on your travels there's even another gravel track on the TET which I rode on my GS 1200 with my son as pillon through the beautiful Val d'Aran
Yes, we plan to have another Motorcycle camp trip over night to test all our new kit before the big trip coming up, will have to see how it goes i guess.... Have you done moto camping? If so what tent are you using?
It is just like Eva sayes, it is big fun, camping. btw, what kind of communication set do you use now a days? on your recommondation, i bought the sena.
Senas are great, however we discovered they are not waterproof on the outside of the helmet as we found out on the Home to Rome tour. We have now bought Cardo Edge to try....
Hi, yes we did that in the Episode at the Bikers campsite in wales which was great. In Germany we stayed in what looked like a large beer barrel with two beds inside! That was a good one, we love anything a bit different to the norm, have you come across any unique places like that?
Well, you have a point there, you can always take this with you on the road, then at least you can drive again, until you can replace it, Benson Tire Repair Spray - 500 ml, I put the name here since a link is not possible, just search for internet @@ontheroadadventure
Why go for 30 nights from the off , Why not just do a 4/5 nights and see how you get on with your new kit and new tent and sleeping bags, it seems a bit much 30 nights tbh, definitely go for a bigger tent if possible because if you don't you will regret it when you're stuck in a small tent and no space for you and your kit, I would of thought with there being 2 of you you would have enough carrying capacity for a decent amount of kit, looking forward to seeing how you get on, definitely think a practice run on the changing a tube before you go is a good idea mate .
Thanks bud, good advice, we will plan to do a practice trip before the big one and find any problems or mistakes we will have made... Either way, its going to be entertaining!
Ewa - 9/10 for both the plate stacking and carvery knowledge. Excellent. Rich - 4/10 a disgrace frankly. Only got 4 due to the deference shown to the Yorkshire Pudding. Must do better.
Rich get that MX tube out of your wheel and replace it with a road tube asap mate for your own safety, MX tubes and heavy duty off road tubes generate too much heat in road bikes and can easily fail at speed without warning and we all know what happens then don't we 🥴 . .
Thanks Dave, Im on it, i ordered a new tube for this reason and a spare to carry with us on the Trip. This also means il get a practice run before we may have to do it at the side of the road
After being a squaddie, living in a trench or hole in the ground, camping no thank you. If you do 30 consecutive nights, ill send you the money for the tent. ❤
@ontheroadadventure I can't tell you how miserable you will feel. Tents are great for stopping off but not staying in. Tenting needs a car and trailer. On a bike it's just instability and headaches. Pull up to your pitch tired. 3 hours of arguing over which poke goes where? No thanks lol
@ontheroadadventure makes a great video. I'm off to Germany in April touring the mosel and rhine. Rented a house for a week to ride out from. It was cheaper than camping 😉
Before you set off for a 30 night adventure, you absolutely have to go away somewhere closer to home with all the gear, for a couple of nights at least.
Even if it's a campsite 20 minutes from home.
That way you can check everything is working as it should, the tent doesn't have any missing poles etc. You can get the feel of the bikes' handling with the additional weight.
If you are riding every day and pitching the tent in a different place every day, you'll need a tent that's quick to set up and take down. You don't want to be doing it in the dark.
Are you wild camping or using campsites?
I would suggest campsites as you've not done this before.
At least with a campsite you have shower and toilet facilities. Some sites have somewhere to dry wet things when the weather isn't great as well.
Stay safe you lovely people x
Hi, yes thats all very good advice. We will have a practice run soon like you say and try to discover any problems before we go on the big tour. Yes we will use proper campsites, a proper toilet and shower is essential. Our plan is to go slow and see more this time so we will alway try to finish well before dark to allow time to set up etc...
Looking forward to it. Absolutely love camping after a long spell away from it, even love the cooking it chills me right out. You’ll love it.
We really like food and the whole process of finding good ingredients and cooking it up so we are also looking forward to this part of it, we should have plenty of time in the evenings for this so hoping this tour will be a slower pace than our usual epic journeys
When changing a tyre take your time and use plenty of lobe also keep the tyre pushed down in the rim or spend the money on a tubeless conversion also remember to match the dot on the tyre with the valve
Thanks Keith, I’ve been watching lots of tutorials etc I plan to change my tube at home in the next few days so hopefully I will have at least one successful tube change under my belt before we go on the next tour.
I have a africa twin and have converted to tubeless. .Best thing I've ever done
How have you done this ?
Thanks for sharing 😎🏍️💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻
Thanks for joining us John, the big tour will be on very soon!
Rich ....dont be such a defeatist, you'll love it! Eva's so enthusiastic!Mandy
Ewa is expectation, i am reality lol! Dont worry im just as game, If we can make it comfortable we can make our travels so much more affordable, which means we can do more... Got any top tips for us?
@ontheroadadventure we manage on one bike, so its harder for us. Your lucky enough to be able to carry a decent size tent, weve been trawling the net looking for a pop up one for a good price, as its no fun putting up a tent in the rain. We're looking at the Slummit Gobi as it has a bit of a porch. None of the outdoor shops really cater for bikers needing ultra light weight stuff, its all online, so you dont get to check it out first.
@@a2bmotorcyclemovers2 yeah we found the same problem, you’d think there would be a huge store somewhere with all the top brands you can think of. Best we have found so far is go outdoors and that’s closing down
I can't wait for these camping vids, should be so funny 👍👍
I predicts a sh*t show lol
@@ontheroadadventure looking forward to it, your both very comical
@@a2bmotorcyclemovers2 We have so much we want to tell you all already…. Just can’t make it up lol… A couple more weeks of work and then we are both all in…
That local cider you were drinking is made in NZ. 😊😊
Yes, I think we were had there 😂🤷♂️
Test your camping equipment before you go. Before leaving for Scandinavia, I set up camp in my friends' garden, and after the first night I knew I needed a better sleeping bag. Thanks to this experience, I didn't get cold later on Noordkapp. Stay safe guys.
Good advice there 👍 We will do this
Ive got the same bike as you both, i have fitted the Outex tape conversion to front and rear wheels , so now carry tubless plug kit with the mini gas cannisters ,also carry a 12v pump, i have the Vango Galaxy 300 tent for camping, you can stand up and change your clothes etc ,not to heavy to strap to back seat, Good luck & hope to see u "on the road " one day ,great videos by the way .
Thanks so much for joining us. As I understand the Outex tape is not ideal on tubed wheels? I’ve head tyres can come off at low pressures and that the tape can fail? I’m not sure I have much confidence in that… Sounds like it’s just fancy gaffa tape lol
Bless you both.. You so remind me of our experiences.. I have camped across Europe, and enjoyed it in the main.. Although must admit I'd rather have a proper bed in a hotel anyway.. Or we did do some glamping at the bikers camp in Wales which was good..
Anyway, tent wise, try the tents first.. See the displays.. We used to need at least a 4 berth. Need storage and slightly more room in case of bad weather and you are stuck in your tent.. Buy a double skinned tent, and able to take constant rain.. (not all tents are the same I promise you..). Look forward to your next video..
Cheers Phil, Bikers campsite is great, we stayed in the pod there. Its good that your comments are confirming what we think we know to be the right decision. We are very close to being the all the gear and no idea camping couple!
Go for a tent that is slightly bigger than you think you need ( carrying a little extra bulk on the bike is far better than uncomfortable night ) and really do your homework to choose one that is easy to put up and take down.
Yes we have been to see some tents and think we are close to deciding on a 4 man we can stand up in
One tip that's a must do, pitch whatever tent you get in your garden or anyone that will let you, just to get used to how it goes up, use a sprinkler over it to make sure it's waterproof and you know how to do the guy lines, poles, it won't be as difficult when you do it for real on your tour. Also, tents always seem a lot bigger when trying to pack them away again after the 1st unpacking.
In fact, test all of your new gear, from cooking equipment to making sure your sleeping arrangements won't deflate during the night. I'm looking forward to watching your tour.
Thanks for sharing and see you on your next adventure ✌️ 🤙 🤟
Hi, that all sounds like good advice, we will do our best to have at least one test camp before we go and try to find any problems, We are buying all new kit which is a plus but of course this means at the moment its untested and we have almost zero camping experience! What have we done!
How do we source power from electric hookups when camping to charge gadgets each evening? we went to go outdoors today who shown us a huge great 4 gang with 10 meters of cable and a adapter! far too big for us
@@ontheroadadventure some camping sites have electric hook ups, that you'll have to ask the owners, most do, though you'll pay a little more for electricity access 😉
@@ontheroadadventure oops I miss read your message, you can run a small cable into your tent which will be sheltered from the elements and the hook up itself should be weather proof with a rain cover. I've not actually used one myself, so that I'm afraid to say would be down to asking the owners of the site where you'll be staying, even more difficult if it's abroad. Just different plugs I guess and there are plenty about.
Gone for the new Triumph 400x Scrambler in the matt green to sit alongside the Multistrada. Should get it in June.
Did you see my review of it? I thought very highly of the bike indeed
I love these video’s ,my first camping trip in France iI spent 2 nights in tent .woke up the second morning and packet everything up in a nice ball and true it in the bin ,had a great 3 week trip after that .😂
😂 Well this could well be a similar expedition!!
Yes. I rode both the 400’s settled on the scrambler as I want to do a bit of light off road, tracks and lanes. Perfect lightweight for that where we both live. Best get it coated to recover a bit of your winter costs 😂😂😂
I think you have made a fantastic choice, i think this bike is perfect and capable to do any kind of riding and at the price its a steal.... I am certain these will rise in price over the next couple years considerably
And of course, you are welcome to call on Shiny side up!
Can’t fault you. I know I’ve said before about a small tent,but I’ve changed my mind, because there’s 2 of you,you can share the kit on the bikes,the reason I pack down small is because I’m solo camping, you can take a palace with you now,all the best guys,👏🏴✊KTF.
With two bikes , you've got lots of carrying capacity ,
Get a big tent , but not one of those with a garage , they are ridiculous . Take a tarp and poles as well for additional cover .
Camp chairs make life tolerable too . Cooking gear , keep it simple , my favourite is the Swedish army Messkit , avoid the expensive gasoline burners unless you're absolutely sure you want that kind of thing . Cooking on a fire is best , so don't spend a lot on pans etc . Plates , bowls and cutlery can weigh a lot so go lightweight and use foldable bowls to save space
Practice your puncture repair - tyre replacement . Take 3 tyre levers and you can use washing up liquid as a tyre lubricant , also there's a way to fit tyres using cable ties , so check that out . And a good powerful electric tyre compressor obviously .
Tools, but just enough for every bolt and screw on the bike ,+ gaffer tape , hose clamps etc.
I prefer soft panniers , Mosko and Kriega are expensively very good , Lomo is cheap , cheerful and easily replaced .Either/Or .
[ Aluminum boxes are a no no for me after getting my leg trapped under them a couple of times .]
Soft sided cooler for food and drinks , especially the drinks .
The more camping you do , the easier it gets and the more you look forward to it .
So go for it !
Hi bud, thanks, some useful info there. what are you doing about power? Electric hook up or powerbanks?
@ontheroadadventure I use a car booster Jumpstart thing . The bike charges it up when I'm riding . It's probably bigger than I need . But it will start a diesel truck so bikes and phones etc are no problem .
@@dungspreader We think we may have found a solution in something similar 👍
Folks, take a peep at the Vango Galaxy 300, a great piece of kit 👌
@@jamesmclaughlin2204 will do cheers
Aww Love ewa’s enthusiasm. I think it’s important to be as comfortable as possible we have a Vango 4 , always go up two berth dead easy to put up. Always have a few practise set ups in a garden.Has some nice storage bits each end. Had a rare sunny day today and jumped out on the bike but still chilly does take the edge of roads still rubbish. But good therapy 👍
Lol Lets see how the Enthusiasm is when reality hits after a few days lol We both really want to be good at the motocamping and make it comfortable, it will enable us to do so much more travelling. It seems going larger on the tent is the thing to do which we are pleased about, we dont fancy the small tents really even if its more sensible for carrying. We just returned from a local bike night, Nice to get out and ride whenever possible
Loving the vlogs . Love your optimism on camping for a month !!! Done it for a week on the bikes and if you don’t have a comfy bed then your back will give you hell to then have to ride a bike as well !! But enjoy I’m sure you will love it or hate it . Keep the vlogs going
..... And the Tours name was born... The Marmite Tour!
Should just point out that if you get a puncture and just replace the inner tube, you need to make sure the inside of the tyre hasn't got any metal sticking out, which could puncture the new inner tube. Something I learnt when I got a puncture on my Interceptor. Good luck with the camping!
Thanks, yes this is good advice 👍
When there's two of you , I would take as BIG a TENT as you want. When the weathers CRAP its a GODSEND. If the weathers great its not an issue. I ALLWAYS carry both. Best of both worlds. There not heavy. You will decide whats best. 👍👍👍
Thanks Ian, its great that your comments are confirming our thoughts and that we not being silly going for a bigger tent even though we will have extra to carry
Hi just a suggestion on the tube change get a cheep wheel and tyre off The net and practice on that not on your nice rims another great vid thanks good luck with the camping
Thats a really good idea, but in this case i have a Heavy duty Tube in my rear from the problem in Italy on the last tour so id like to swap it for what should be there again so il have a go at that and see how i get on i guess
Good luck hope all goes well
Thanks bud
@@Leonard-kd7uj
It's already been said in other comments. tent, go bigger rather than lighter. Lone Rider or Wolf Walker or Redverz, there is even a Vango that does the same job. 6kgs is not huge when you have two bikes.... actually it's not huge solo, but you guys can share the load. Definitely do an overnighter, somewhere close to home, say Bude or Boscastle or maybe North Devon. You HAVE to try your kit out before you go and with enough time between try out and trip to change things if needed. Sleep systems are the hardest things to get right as it's very hard to advise. Bit of a haul but it might be worth a ride up to Attwooll's near Gloucester as they have a massive display area / showroom. They are not super cheap but you can at least see what you are thinking of buying. The cafe there serves some excellent cake too.
Thanks Neil, we will look that shop up, we have been trying to find just this, We have found Go outdoors only offer more budget stuff and another camp store we went to had very little to actually show us. We will try and do as you say and do a practice camp soon
On all my trips I mix it up ... some camping and then a few nights in a hotel ... 90% of my trips I go solo and use a 2 man tent minimum and have the extra space ... I have had £400+ tents but always return to my trusty Eurohike Tamer 2, its pitches as one, loads of space and it was £40 (think now around £60?) ... but when my missus came the odd time we used a 3 person as the bike can take the weight and size no issue. But with you both riding then you can go large and just split the weight ... one has the main tent, one has the poles and pegs etc you will appreciate the space and then when it gets a bit like too much hard work then an hotel, too hot or too wet for camping etc .... What I have learnt is this, unless I am 100% going to do any wild camping then I dont haul the stove, cooking stuff, pans etc etc ... just the tent, mat and sleeping bag, dont even do a pillow as I just fold up my jeans and jacket and place my Airhawk seat cushion, comfy as owt! 😉
We are decided on a large 4 man tent, as you say we need more room, we will also need to be editing and doing youtube stuff as we go so will need a comfortable space. Getting enough power for all our tech is our next concern...
Lone rider tent, and i can't wait to see the videos 👏👍
We did look at the lone rider but the sleeping area is not big enough for two XL Sleeping mats. The smaller one fits the mats and would be great for shorter trips
There is a big difference between doing a one night try out with a tent and weeks at a time in one. Particularly with two of you needing to get dressed into your biking kit then, take down and pack away in the morning and set up again that evening. Make sure you give it some thought.
😂 I love Rich’s enthusiasm! We’re off Moto camping at the beginning of May for the first time and are currently buying all sorts of crap we probably don’t need. Ideally I would have liked the Lone Rider Moto tent but decided on a cheaper Vango Beta 550 to start with, that I picked up from John Lewis for £175. It’s probably a bit big really but sits ok on the back of my Tiger 1200. And I can stand up in it which is a must for me. We’re planning a test weekend sometime soon when it warms up a little bit to iron out the wrinkles in the kit.
I’m really looking forward to your videos of this. 😊
Yeah we have also gone for a big tent we can stand in. One look at those small tents you need to crawl in and out of put me right off! The most common advice seems to be spend big on your sleep system and get the best you can afford, we have done this so banking on it being bearable!
@@ontheroadadventure not sure if we’ve got the sleep system sorted or not, but a trial run will soon answer that. We also discovered bags you can pee in overnight to save having to do the trip to the loo in the small hours. They’re called Peebol and available on Amazon. We used them at a festival last year and they worked really well.
@@GreyBiker99 lol now that would make a comedy moment on UA-cam 😂 I don’t think ewa would be too chuffed
As always i love your videos you two crack me all the time just stay safe look forward to the next video 👌💯👍
Well Brace yourself for whats to come!
@@ontheroadadventure looking forward to it 🤣🤣👍
Not sure I am…. But Ewa is!
I’m with you Richard, a few nights in a tent then a hotel. If you go somewhere sunny I find a tent is fine but if it rains it makes you want to slash your wrists. I agree with the bigger tent. I started with something the size of a coffin but soon traded up. The accepted advice is always get a tent one more berth than you need. I’ve seen some excellent reviews of the ‘Wingman of the Road’ single berth which includes mattress and sleeping bag. They also do a two berth version which maybe worth looking at but I suspect will be too small. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with
We saw the Wingman ones but the pack size is massive and the space when up is small. Doesnt make sense for us, nice idea if alone though just for simplicity
I’m new to watching you guys I think you’re great say how it is and I know it’s not nice having the problems you come across but you work them out and you both make me laugh doing a runner from a pretty ruff looking site/tent that made me cry keep up the brilliant entertainment cheers Les
Thanks Les, Youll get the good, bad and ugly here! But we will always have a laugh along the way! Thanks for joining us!
Loved the video Eva was saying with carvery you only go once if you’ve got a TOBY down yours you can go up for seconds the only thing you can’t do is have meat again but everything else you can have ride safe
Surely if your stacking the carvery right, you cant do a second plate?! Sounds like a food challenge coming soon!
@@ontheroadadventure yes you can have as much as you like go up as may times as you like and help yourself to all veg obviously roasties and of course the gravy I’ve been going to them every now and again for last 10 years it’s not bad quality if your near one try it you might be surprised anyway ride safe down there I’m holidaying in Cornwall in June eat lots of pasty’s😂😂😂
Toby's coming up! Cornwall is amazing, Stick to the coast all the way round and you cant go wrong@@nicholasjarrold8649
If you riding in the ass end of nowhere take a tent if your not don’t bother. “Been there done that” I’ve lived in the same area as you all my life but the traffic nowadays is driving me mad so we all need to get away for our sanity.
Love your true to life content. Cheers
Yeah we know the feeling, I used to enjoy being a City boy, the older i get the more i want to abandon ship and go find the Quite life with less people and traffic around.
@@ontheroadadventure Ditto
You can’t beat a nice cosy hotel, en-suite and a decent toilet!!! Camping is uncomfortable, noisy and you really don’t get the sleep you need for the ride ahead.
Well..... 50% of Team on the road adventure agrees with you!
Hi,if you haven't got a compressor to blow up your tube,I'd recommend the "Rocky Creek" About £65 .Avoids the potential heart attack from using a cycle pump!
I do love motorbike camping but you do have to take a load of gear to make it comfortable - definitely recommend a chair and a pillow.As others have said during a long journey it's good to take a few days out in a hotel and treat yourselves.After doing camping several times now I've got a checklist of kit but it's different for everyone but happy to share.
Richard (Bristol 500cbx)
Hi Rich, yes we would be interested to see your checklist and see if we are missing anything! Are you on the FB group? Search On the Road adventure riders group and you can post pics there 👍
Hi, I have replied but it doesn’t seem to have taken.I included two internet links;do these get rejected ?
Guys an advice: I don't know what program you use to edit the videos, but add a compressor effect to the audio because there's too much difference between the different sections, from inside the helmet, when you talk outside, the music, and so on. That will keep every sound at the same level. Cheers.
Thanks bud, we will look into it
If you're going to a formal camp site with showers, etc, I found them to be not that much cheaper than a cheap hotel/b&b, so the maths in going camping saving money is significantly different when taking that and the cost of EVERYTHING (including all your previous "test" equipment) you've bought to go camping. Give me a small room with a shared bathroom down the hallway compared to camping any day! What IS very handy and will save money is taking some cooking gear.
All said and done, I wish you well. Just stay in a hotel every now and again to recharge your batteries, figuratively and literally! 😁👍
But it all looks lovely and cosy according to ewa…. She’s been watching too many UA-cam videos lol Who knows maybe it will be as good as those guys make it look 😬
Hi guys, we found a 4 person tent was a great size for 2 people plus 2 sets of gear etc, worth the sacrifice in weight.
Also, on the Benelli trk 502x, I had an issue with the bike not starting, turned out to be faulty tip sensor which was replaced no issues under warranty... bike is just over a year old... at the same time I tried to get replacement hand guards as the finish was falling off around the bolts, but they said warranty on paint is only 6 months!...
Thanks, we are also looking at a 4 man MSR which seems to fit the bill. How many miles have put on the Benelli?
@ontheroadadventure just under 20,000, always kept in garage and washed after most rides, was very surprised at the "6 month warranty on paint/finish"
@@Blumen_adventures Yeah I mean firstly, only those two minor issues in 20k isn’t bad to be fair, I can definitely accept that at £6.5k with full luggage…
In a way I can understand a shorter warranty on the paint etc, a someone with experience as a motorcycle detailer I have seen how poorly some people will look after their own bikes, and so it must be hard to offer a fair promise on it’s longevity, although it is a shame being that you have been looking after yours
@ontheroadadventure yeah, I wasn't overly surprised I must say, and it didn't really bother me too much, I will just get them powder coated sometime soon as we get stuff powder coated at work, so will add it in with a job. looking forward to seeing how you get on with tent life mate, Im sure once you find the right gear etc you will be all good
@@Blumen_adventures we are hoping that’s the case, we are spending a fortune on the kit to ensure we have good stuff
Kyham biker + tent 👍
Will check it out 👍
I have A Kyham biker tent which is a pop up.
Video on UA-cam worth a try bit pricey but work for me at 3 berth got loads of room and cheap camping chair off ebay 😀
We got the Oxford folding chairs, we will check out that tent cheers
Hi guys can’t wait for the next adventure, how about changing your back tyres to tubeless so all you need to do is put a plug in would be a lot easier the front is easier to get off
I dont think its as simple as just changing the tyre...
No it’s not if you have spoke wheels you would need to get them sealed to stop air escaping
I’ve seen there is some sort of rim tap but it’s prone to failing. Only real option is to change the wheels but that’s big bucks
Love it, when it is pissing it down and you can’t dry your gear it will be all your idea about going camping 😂 nice warm bed and breakfast all day long. Hats off to you both for having ago. Can not wait for the video stay safe both of you 👍👍
lol yes that sounds about right! This is typical us though, straight in at the deep end, it’s sink or swim time!
I can remember a particularly wet two weeks in Cornwall where everything was wet. We ended up sitting in a launderette in perranporth to dry everything out. Still camping 50 years later, but have learnt more about camping since then.
Cant be that bad then if your still going!@@boringtouringwhenpouring5038
Hi guys love watching your adventures, we have also had many fantastic motorcycle travel adventures over the years. But a must on the motorcycle bucket list is to tour northern Sweden and Norway.
We moved form Cornwall and now own a B&B in Swedish Lapland, which you would be more than welcome to stop overnight. Not unless you enjoy putting your tent up and down every night. Roads are amazing and very little traffic, stunning landscape. You are also allowed to stop and set up your tent almost anywhere.
Just an idea and always good to plan and explore other places.
Ride safe and looking forward to your next adventure, :-)
Hi, We maywell take you up on that! If you message us either here or on the Facebook group your details we will add your BnB to our map, We would love to come there
Excellent looking carvery! And love old moult, excellent to see they have an alcohol free one 😊
Definitely try a few nights away first, get the bigger then for room when it’s raining as it’s miserable having no space, get a good insulated mattress and chuck a silver blanket under it too.
Not sure I’d manage 30 nights without a few B&B’s along the way, unless the weather here was exceptionally good 😂
Hi Jennie, Yes we have spent a small fortune on our Thermarest mats and Looking at silly expensive sleeping bags as we speak. We realise if we get this wrong, the game is up... Im with you on the 30 nights being too much but we will see how it pans out...
Same here, one of our mats died over the summer and made for an uncomfortable weekend away, I need to get a new one, possibly a klymit double. I lusting over sea to summit or big Agnes sleeping bags, but alll the £££
Oh, camp shoes I live in flip flops, but not always great if we’re doing lots of exploring, so I chuck some lightweight hiking trainers Altra or Salamon and yes! I own crocs 🤣
I laughed at bringing a hair dryer 😉 my camping hair = fluffy curly mess hidden by a neck buff or plaits or stolen 🧢
Check out the Nemo Disco 15 Sleeping bag, thats a strong contender, i also like the look of the Zenbivvy but they are in america so would have customs on top of the outrageous prices.. I do draw the line at crocs! @@JennieAshdown
@@ontheroadadventure ooh, I’ve actually added that in my Amazon list so I’ll have another look before I order anything.
Ha ha I tried not too, for a long time, but in the end midnight loo trips and showers and nearly sliding about to my death in flip flops I gave in. They are black and the least conspicuous looking I could find 🤣🤣
Can't wait to watch you and you're experiences on this up and coming trip/tour. (And Rich, mind out for dog sh#t on your boot again, lol)
Lol - Its funny the things people remember about our Motorbike trips! We promised you all the good, bad AND ugly!
@ontheroadadventure yes and to this day if I need cheering up then I go back and watch that episode. But honestly you both are great and I love watching your vids, very inspiring, thank you. Maybe see you out on the roads one of these days.
Well if you do see us, make sure you say Hi! Plenty more funny videos coming up I’m sure!
Redverz Atacama tent - big to pack but worth it for the room.
Trangia 25 series stove with gas burner and alcohol burner.
We looked at that tent but Rich said that snakes will crawl in the porch area as there is no groundsheet sewn inn 🤣
I’ve been bike camping for years now, tried literally 10-15 different tents from small, easy erect, large, exoskeleton ones, 1 man , 2 man & 3 man ones but always go back to the Redverz for the headroom, space and porch area where you can sit & cook or chill out. Also have the awning kit which is great for sunny days for a shield from the sun.
Having 4 doors it’s great in hot weather too for airflow.
Sounds like you found a way to make it comfortable for yourself 👍
If you get any new inner tubes get the standard thickness .they are easier to fit and most tubes that fail on an adventure bike are caused by over heating over time due to high speeds on a heavy bike .thinner tubes don't build up some much heat Thick tubes are better left to low speed light Enduro bike. Can't wait to see your trip I like you guys.
Thanks martin, yeah i been watching lots of youtube vids on this and now im concerned enough about the Heavy duty MX tube thats in mine from Italy that im going to have a practice go at home with the new tools etc and see if i can change the tube without pinching it
@@ontheroadadventure it will be fine as long as you stick to road tyre pressure . I did the same thing .
Id do a episode of the tyre change but i suspect it would contain even more swearing than usual
@@martinfretwell
We've got the same tyre levers and put them to the test this weekend swapping the tyres on mine (rather than using the more workshop type). They do work but it's worth carrying a small bottle of shampoo to lubricate the bead, both for refitting the tyre and for breaking the bead. On our tigers the fronts easy as it doesn't have the safety bead but the rear has a tubeless profile so was a pain to break hence the need for some lubricant.
Previously we've used a small tent which easily fits in one pannier but due to headroom issues have gone for a larger one this year that will go across the pillion seat. For me an advantage is that it will also act as a back rest. We'll probably also take the small one just for ease of pitching and as there's 2 of us space isn't an issue.
Bed wise there's a lot to be said for the oex cot beds, more comfy in my opinion than the self inflating tyes and neither big or heavy when packed away.
You dont have tubes on the tiger? Its pinching the tube that was a big problem the last time i tried this... OEX do some good stuff, We didnt consider the cots, will see how the matts work out now we spent so much on them
Ours are the 800 xc, so spoked and tubed. With hind sight we should have gone for the xr with alloys that are tubeless but as with most things bike related you buy with the heart 😂😂. The 1200s and 900s have tubeless spoked wheels like the gs but at the time they were cost prohibitive.
Yes same problem we have, new AT is tubeless but would be a big expense to upgrade both bikes just for this reason
Get the bigger tent, it’s easier to do everything in. If you have side panniers the tent will sit across back seat and panniers.
We agree with you! We been looking at MSR habitute 4 as it’s big enough can stand up inn and under 6kg. What is your go to tent or do you have a better suggestion for us?
I use the highpeak tessin 4. Plenty of room and you can stand up. Also you can pick one up for under £200.
We will look it up and see, cheers
Don´t do the 30 nights. Go for 2-3 max and than a night in a hotel/airbnb. The possibility of taking a normal shower is one of the best things and feels like all the luxury you were missing your whole life. And as someone else already said, if you have bad luck with the weather your equipment and clothes will never get dry.
We plan to use proper camp sites so hopefully toilets and shower etc wont be a issue, I suspect we will end up in hotels at least sometimes but i guess time will tell
This will be hysterical, bring it on. Please don't kill each other. BTW bigger tent 100%, especially in bad weather. Keep some space to buy food ingredients. And of course the age-old hunt for lightweight camping chairs. If you're doing payed camp sites you can get away without a chair Don't forget the head torch.
Funny for you Vince!! Nah I think it will be a entertaining trip no matter how it works out in the end, we will either master moto camping or it will come to a end in a dramatic I told you so kinda way!
Oxford products have given us some folding chairs that seem good. Head torch is a good one and needs to be bought. Is there a well known one or really good brand to get?
You'll love camping it great fun even I the rain, is tyer slim any good to provent punchers.
I guess time will tell one way or the other…
I’m not a fan of tyre slime, if we have a puncture I want to know about it before I’m doing motorway speeds with goo holding the air inside my tube.. I think changing tubes is just a skill il have to learn
For the reasons you have stated we have bought a Lone Rider tent and for extra comfort we are looking at a Coleman raised airbed good luck
We have discovered our XL Sleeping matts dont quite fit in the big lone rider tents sleeping compartment so that one is ruled out, however there small one looks good for short trips
Old Mout Cider is not really "local", it comes from New Zealand 😂. Now there's an idea for a tour.
Sounds like a plan! Let’s go!
Well, you have a point there, you can always take this with you on the road, then at least you can drive again, until you can replace it, Benson Tire Repair Spray - 500 ml, I put the name here since a link is not possible, just search on the internet
Thanks Casper il take a look now
You and me both. This weeks purchase is an aluminium pump that fits under the seat and rubber puncture plug 😂Last week was adventure boots 😂😂
Can be expensive winter months! We could have gone on a cruise for the cost of all this camping and filming kit lol
Cost me two skiing holidays and that’s without buying the bits for the bike trips this year ( and I haven’t even included another new bike 😂😂)
Ohh which bike have you gone for? @@simonryder4857
Carry On Camping 2024!! I can't wait 🤣 suzannemathews6268 makes a very good point tbf, get the mistakes ironed out before the big trip! Regarding the puncture thing, it's not very fair people pointing the finger at you? A puncture in a tubeless tyre is usually fixable at the side of the road, not so easy with a tubed tyre!!! Great video as always, love you guys x
Thanks bud, yes upto now ive always carried a couple methods of plugging a tubeless tyre, and fixed many, but we got caught out on the twins, Its a skill i am going to have to master! We will try to practice all these things before we go if we can get time, as you say, try and find problems here before it matters
Hi here's one for ya going to Australia soon Brisbane to cairns . & back . About 4.000 miles 12 days camping most of the way up . Riding mt07 . Wish me luck . Is it a mistake .... 😊
Rolley
Hi Roland, an adventure is never a mistake! I wonder, what precautions do you take when camping in Australia against snakes and other nasties getting to you in the tent when camping?
Hi well I tell them to go away normally works :) secondly never open the tent at night . You never know what out there because every thing wants to eat you :) :) . Snakes well one won't go looking for them that's for sure . But the biggest thing to watch out for is them big hopping things to get off the roads before roo time . This trip will be on utube hopefully. On my Assie frends channel roads I'v ridden . He's says in 5 parts if it goes to plan . This will be my 5th trip to Australia & have covered a few thousand miles now on my adventure in mostly Queensland. A 500 mile ride would be like a normal days ride out as you can just eat up the miles so easily & get enough protein from the bugs in your face . :( :) :) England fits in Australia 39 times & Oueensland 9 times . Lifes adventure one life live it everyday.
Rolley :)
@@rolandstaines3249 This sounds epic! I can’t believe you’re more bothered by Rio’s than snakes! I want to see this! 😂
Why not a part camping part hotel holiday? I’ve tried camping many times when I was younger but now I cringe at the thought… even so there’s a part of me that sees the appeal. Funny thing is I used to love being cozy in the tent when it was raining, provided it didn’t leak!
I suspect you maywell be right Geoff, We will see how long the Romantic notion of camping lasts for ewa... Maybe we will become pros.....
Have you looked at the Vango Galaxy 300?
Plus a tarp to act as a porch that keeps the rain from entering the vestibule and somewhere to sit in shelter out of the rain.
Hi guys, if it is any consolation it is cold with snow flurries here in central France. If it was me touring I would leave it a month before setting off.
lone rider tent ,like a portable house .
Trouble with lone rider is it isnt big enough in the sleep area for our two large Air matts, we bought xl thermarest. Also the area out side the bed room is exposed to the grass, creepy crawlies etc. We want our kit inside in the dry. Dont want Scorpions in our boots!
Vango galaxy 300 and crocs job done 🙂
We did consider the 300 can go but we notice it’s not sealed between the ground sheet and tent which means snakes and scorpions can get into the living area… Don’t fancy that too much…
Where on earth are you going?🙂 From the tents I’ve got and have seen the inner is usually sealed to keep the bugs out but the groundsheet isn’t sewn in. That will give you better ventilation to stop condensation. There can be pitching benefits too eg if it’s raining putting the outer up first or taking the inner out first, packing separately to keep things dry. One more tip split the tent when packing distribute a bit of weight and pack in dry bags. Enjoy the outdoors! 🙂
We did say we wouldnt be making it easy n ourselves....!@@pete36524
The cheapest way to go tubeless is probably Outex. I wouldn't recommend it. It's not a proper job. It's why I didn't mention it before.
If you don't want to spend between 1500 and £1700 per bike getting proper tubeless wheels, you'd be better off learning to change a tube, but that's not fun when it's dark and wet beside the road. You'll need to practice at home. Its easy enough once you've got the technique right and practiced.
Basically you've got the wrong bikes for foreign travel. Sorry.
I’m confident I can learn to be efficient at changing the tubes, it’s like anything, easy once you know how. I bought the motion pro bead breakers and I’m going to have a go before we leave at changing my tube…
@@ontheroadadventureBreaking the bead is only part of the job. The bead breaker will add to the clutter and weight that you carry, and will very rarely get used. I suggest using the centre stand on the second bike to break the bead. It's also possible to use the bike that has the punctur, but it's more awkward.
Also, bear in mind that you need to carry additional clobber with you: a decent set of tyre levers (I recommend the original Buzzetti ones, but they're not small or light); some lube for the tyre; a spare tube - a 19" will do for both at a pinch :); and a means of inflating the tyre afterwards. And some spare clothes incase you end out doing the work in 30-odd degrees.
Don't worry about the thick tube that they fitted in Italy, but if you are concerned about it being balanced properly, just remove the wheel and balance it.
@@RedRupert64 I’d rather have the kit and have a chance at repairing it myself even if it means carrying it all round with us. Luckily we have two bikes to spread all our stuff over
@@ontheroadadventure Yes, I understand where you're coming from, but Ewa is already planning to pack a hairdryer with a battery, so there won't be much free space on her bike!
You should see the kit we seem to be gathering for this next trip.... This is going to be moto Glamping tour!
Looking forward to your 30 day tenting adventures. Going to be epic!
…. And possible only 2 days long 😂😂
Yes Rich is going to enjoy every second of camping 🤣🤣🤣🤣✌
Well…. At least it’s only a mere 30 nights planned 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@ontheroadadventure
@RedverzGear They have a proper a motorcycle tent, and the rest of the gear you ned to go camping. You have two bikes and room for a big tent and chairs. A small tent is not good for several night`s, for me anyway. 😉
Thanks we will look them up, Big tent it is i think, we are not up for crawling on hands and knees after a long day
😂 camp not a chance b&b or Hotel every time especially a I'm way older than you especially as we are 2up. My thoughts on Home to Rome don't try to cover to may miles per day. if you use the motorway yes you can do bigger miles, in the mountains or off the main roads you have drop the miles.
We try to be on the road by 9 and at the accommodation by 16.30 but whatever you do enjoy it which you do in spades 😊
Brian, you are spot on! Our Previous tours have always been B roads and far less but the Home to Rome had time restraints which we would never do again as this was the first and last time we did so much motorways as a plan. Go slow and see more is the plan, also we want to show you guys places and experiences, not just riding and roads. Motocamping is going to be a much slower pace for a longer time.... Thats our plan anyway...
Can you not fit tubeless tyres save the hassle of carrying tubes, Rich where’s the positivity once you get the hang of erecting the tent and a routine between the two of you I’m sure you’ll enjoy it all the more, or is it a case of you prefer your home comforts when on tour and that’s understandable
Honestly - I really want the Moto camping to work and to be comfortable.... We will see how it pans out... Its just my sense of humour thats all. The Africa twin would need different wheels to go tubless really and thats just too costly for us
I ride a lot in Europe on the "Trans Euro Trail" which is an off-road route through Europe I use to camp with the lightest tent I could but now I pretty much use local accommodation wherever I'm traveling through using Airbnb or Internet search or even just asking the locals and the value as been incredible. I still carry the tent just in case 🤷🏻 but my last 3 trips I haven't used it 🤔. I've also changed a lot of tubes 😂 technique is the key and until you've got that down it'll be a bastard, you can always help by using "slime" -" puncture sealant" in the tubes but you guys on the big adventure bikes like balanced and I'm not sure if you can balance the wheel with slime in 🤷🏻
Hi, yes I did look into the slime but I’m not keen on the idea of riding at motorways speeds not knowing if goo is holding my tube together, I’d rather know I had a problem and deal with it.
I have looked at the ACT but do you think that would be too risky on big Africa twins fully loaded with hard panniers? Could be an expensive mistake?
@@ontheroadadventure I rode the ACT Pyrenees September just gone there are a couple of very easy gravel roads that I think would be very easy going if you wanted to include them on your travels there's even another gravel track on the TET which I rode on my GS 1200 with my son as pillon through the beautiful Val d'Aran
This was my thinking to start with some gravel roads and see how we get on with the easy stuff first…
practice makes it perfect
Yes, we plan to have another Motorcycle camp trip over night to test all our new kit before the big trip coming up, will have to see how it goes i guess.... Have you done moto camping? If so what tent are you using?
@@ontheroadadventure yea, we drag a trailer with camping stuff in it
You have a trike?
@ontheroadadventure I had a 1500 goldwing , but I changed it for a 1800
It is just like Eva sayes, it is big fun, camping. btw, what kind of communication set do you use now a days? on your recommondation, i bought the sena.
Senas are great, however we discovered they are not waterproof on the outside of the helmet as we found out on the Home to Rome tour. We have now bought Cardo Edge to try....
Why not convert to tubeless tyres-Easy to repair.
As I understand it there’s only some sort of rim tape that’s not very reliable or buy new wheels?
Hi, Tins on Tour converted his bike and had no problems.
il check it out but im pretty sure the options came down to either really expensive over two bikes or not reliable... Maybe i missed something...
Have you thought about trying a camping pods ,cheaper than hotels
Hi, yes we did that in the Episode at the Bikers campsite in wales which was great. In Germany we stayed in what looked like a large beer barrel with two beds inside! That was a good one, we love anything a bit different to the norm, have you come across any unique places like that?
Quite a few places on pitch up UK ,
Maustin park ,netherby ,near Harrogate is a good one
We have been looking at that app, hopefully it will come in useful@@StephenReynolds-n1c
Are there any rims for your motorcycle so you can ride tubeless??
As far as in know you have to get the Adventure sport wheels, but two sets of them for us is not a cheap thing to do
Well, you have a point there, you can always take this with you on the road, then at least you can drive again, until you can replace it, Benson Tire Repair Spray - 500 ml, I put the name here since a link is not possible, just search for internet
@@ontheroadadventure
Will check it out cheers
Why go for 30 nights from the off , Why not just do a 4/5 nights and see how you get on with your new kit and new tent and sleeping bags, it seems a bit much 30 nights tbh, definitely go for a bigger tent if possible because if you don't you will regret it when you're stuck in a small tent and no space for you and your kit, I would of thought with there being 2 of you you would have enough carrying capacity for a decent amount of kit, looking forward to seeing how you get on, definitely think a practice run on the changing a tube before you go is a good idea mate .
Thanks bud, good advice, we will plan to do a practice trip before the big one and find any problems or mistakes we will have made... Either way, its going to be entertaining!
Cheap, b a b sod that camping lark 😂
It seems it’s tradition we learn everything the hard way just for entertainments sake 😂
Least u both stayed up right ,rubber side down 👍
@@eddiemizen3703 That’s the plan 👍
Ewa - 9/10 for both the plate stacking and carvery knowledge. Excellent.
Rich - 4/10 a disgrace frankly. Only got 4 due to the deference shown to the Yorkshire Pudding. Must do better.
Lol Must try harder!
If your worried about scorpions in your boots, just take some fresh sage leaves and place them in there, they wont go near them.
I wonder if this actually works? Will have better smelling boots if nothing else!
Rich get that MX tube out of your wheel and replace it with a road tube asap mate for your own safety, MX tubes and heavy duty off road tubes generate too much heat in road bikes and can easily fail at speed without warning and we all know what happens then don't we 🥴 . .
Thanks Dave, Im on it, i ordered a new tube for this reason and a spare to carry with us on the Trip. This also means il get a practice run before we may have to do it at the side of the road
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Thanks for watching
After being a squaddie, living in a trench or hole in the ground, camping no thank you. If you do 30 consecutive nights, ill send you the money for the tent. ❤
LOL Game on, We getting a expensive tent mind! Although im confident your pennies are safe!
Bit of advice on the camping
DON'T DO IT.
Lol..... Well i knew that already!!
30 consecutive nights? You will be in a hotel by night 3. Your going to ache after riding, your not going to be comfy ever!! Your gear will never dry.
I believe ya Bud! Tell ewa pleaseee! lol
@ontheroadadventure I can't tell you how miserable you will feel. Tents are great for stopping off but not staying in. Tenting needs a car and trailer. On a bike it's just instability and headaches. Pull up to your pitch tired. 3 hours of arguing over which poke goes where? No thanks lol
Lol - You sound just like me! But im in..... Just for the I told you so moment that surely will inevitably come!@@bruinsma2009
@ontheroadadventure makes a great video. I'm off to Germany in April touring the mosel and rhine. Rented a house for a week to ride out from. It was cheaper than camping 😉
We love Germany, a nice clean place, good roads and good food
Cold? Rain? Snow? Wettest winter in 250 years? Blame global warming!! 😂😂😂🏍️🇬🇧👍🇿🇦
Cold? Rain? Snow? Wettest winter in 250 years? Blame global warming!! 😂😂😂🏍️🇬🇧👍🇿🇦
Yes, all makes sense now eh