Batteries made from Iron, salt, water, and common metals that can be recycled and non toxic is exactly what our future needs. I hope this company succeeds because the demand for large scale and safe electrical storage will be necessary forever.
❤ Great tour. Seeing the battery evolution was fascinating. So was seeing the assembly of an energy warehouse. As an investor I appreciate the insights!
Stellar video of history of the technology and manufacturing process! Great tool for educating folks about the company and efficiency of manufacturing.
Technology + Assembly + Packaging: interesting. On your website I would like to see a financial comparison between a lithium ion or iron phosphate battery of comparable kW power or kWh capacity.
Hey Drezza, how come you got those metal spokes stickin' out the sides of those batteries? People are going to want to be able to move these things around cheaply & easy. Thus, their size should conform to shipping standards. Your next big batt should be flush (no spokes) & should have the length & width of a shipping pallet, with a height 0.5x (stackable) or 1x the internal height of a shipping container. If you want to go even bigger, subsequent batts should be the size of quadcon, tricon or better yet bicon shipping containers. The tanks look sweet. These membranes tho - ain't people tryna ditch them altogether? Good work, & get those Portlandians of yours to keep 'em coming. Thanks for the tour & regards, G.M. o/
They don't ship individual batteries, they pack the batteries and the tanks and the AC inverters in a 40-foot shipping container that's ready to go on site. (As far as membranes if you have fluids you're exchanging ions between, you can't avoid that sort of a permeable barrier, so far as I can imagine)
They have something like 30-50 container units installed and operating at utilities and customers. It would be neat to see some more of the assembly and and testing, for sure.
Interesting video. However, it seems like this company may be headed toward the same destiny as Arcimoto. It looks like the battery is "expensive" from a manufacturing point of view, and of course, is gigantic for a very nominal amount of power at 50kW, less than the battery in my car. Yes, I understand the arguments with "safe" and commodity components and electrolyte, but I'm not convinced this is competitive overall--that the cost of production can be driven down significantly and there is sufficient market demand for this type of battery. Given cash burn and revenue thus far (very little), this company will either be facing bankruptcy or significant dilution within a few years.
According to your comment, you have not understood how a flow battery works. Please do not confuse kW with kWh. The Energy Warehouse from ESS has a storage capacity of 400 kWh to 600 kWh with a rated output of 50 kW to 90 kW. The storage capacity of Flow Batteries is only limited by the volume of the electrolyte tank.
I'm a long term stockholder, the reasoning for my belief in them is their IP gives them a nice technological moat. First advantage is that their battery won't lose capacity as it cycles, cycle it as often as you want, it doesn't care. It will still be putting out that same kw/kwh rating 25-30 years from now, also that's 25-30 years of not having to pay all the hazmat licenses, fees and training you would need with almost any other chemistry. Lithuim-ion requires many, many kw's worth of thermal management in order to not go into shutdown, so that's not only an unspoken drain on the battery packs but it's also a budgetary item as it will need constant PM's and repairs performed. While the power output of an individual energy warehouse isn't terribly impressive, when it scales up to their energy centers and you can output up to 6MW/72MWH on a single acre of land, for 25 years, it suddenly sounds like the kind of things that cities and municipality would love. Throwing in that's non-toxic, easily recyclable and water-based is just whipped cream on top. I can't read the future so I don't know if/when they will pull it off but after spending a lot of time studying the issues with lithuim-ion and other battery chemistries, I believe they have the best chance of capturing a large share of the C&I and utility markets.
@@salvadordavinci7 its a relatively new technology and utilities like certainty, no one wants to buy into the next Betamax, so it's slow going until people realize that this tech works. They do have quality customers though and as they become comfortable that these products will perform as advertised, I expect they will grow the deliveries at a healthy pace
Batteries made from Iron, salt, water, and common metals that can be recycled and non toxic is exactly what our future needs.
I hope this company succeeds because the demand for large scale and safe electrical storage will be necessary forever.
❤ Great tour. Seeing the battery evolution was fascinating. So was seeing the assembly of an energy warehouse. As an investor I appreciate the insights!
This was awesome! Thank you so much for posting this.
Great video all! Hope we get to see them more often
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Stellar video of history of the technology and manufacturing process! Great tool for educating folks about the company and efficiency of manufacturing.
Would be nice to see this built into big buildings for energy independence and grid stability
You would think that they would put solar panels on the roof of that factory.
Thank you! Very informative and so cool!
Thank you very much for the video! Having the comments turned-on for your videos is also a good indicator for me.
Great to see! Thank you for putting this up. :)
Awesome 👏
Great to see !!
Technology + Assembly + Packaging: interesting. On your website I would like to see a financial comparison between a lithium ion or iron phosphate battery of comparable kW power or kWh capacity.
Awesome to look under the hood guys, keep it up!
I'd like to be able to buy one of those 12kW stacks for home off grid capabilities
Hey Drezza, how come you got those metal spokes stickin' out the sides of those batteries? People are going to want to be able to move these things around cheaply & easy. Thus, their size should conform to shipping standards. Your next big batt should be flush (no spokes) & should have the length & width of a shipping pallet, with a height 0.5x (stackable) or 1x the internal height of a shipping container.
If you want to go even bigger, subsequent batts should be the size of quadcon, tricon or better yet bicon shipping containers. The tanks look sweet. These membranes tho - ain't people tryna ditch them altogether? Good work, & get those Portlandians of yours to keep 'em coming. Thanks for the tour & regards, G.M. o/
They don't ship individual batteries, they pack the batteries and the tanks and the AC inverters in a 40-foot shipping container that's ready to go on site.
(As far as membranes if you have fluids you're exchanging ions between, you can't avoid that sort of a permeable barrier, so far as I can imagine)
So all that to store about the same energy as a 5 gallon (or less) can of gasoline?
Please show us in a real world test.
They have something like 30-50 container units installed and operating at utilities and customers. It would be neat to see some more of the assembly and and testing, for sure.
Interesting video. However, it seems like this company may be headed toward the same destiny as Arcimoto. It looks like the battery is "expensive" from a manufacturing point of view, and of course, is gigantic for a very nominal amount of power at 50kW, less than the battery in my car. Yes, I understand the arguments with "safe" and commodity components and electrolyte, but I'm not convinced this is competitive overall--that the cost of production can be driven down significantly and there is sufficient market demand for this type of battery. Given cash burn and revenue thus far (very little), this company will either be facing bankruptcy or significant dilution within a few years.
According to your comment, you have not understood how a flow battery works.
Please do not confuse kW with kWh.
The Energy Warehouse from ESS has a storage capacity of 400 kWh to 600 kWh with a rated output of 50 kW to 90 kW.
The storage capacity of Flow Batteries is only limited by the volume of the electrolyte tank.
@@SPalr Yes, that was an oversight on my part. Thank you for the correction.
I'm a long term stockholder, the reasoning for my belief in them is their IP gives them a nice technological moat. First advantage is that their battery won't lose capacity as it cycles, cycle it as often as you want, it doesn't care. It will still be putting out that same kw/kwh rating 25-30 years from now, also that's 25-30 years of not having to pay all the hazmat licenses, fees and training you would need with almost any other chemistry. Lithuim-ion requires many, many kw's worth of thermal management in order to not go into shutdown, so that's not only an unspoken drain on the battery packs but it's also a budgetary item as it will need constant PM's and repairs performed. While the power output of an individual energy warehouse isn't terribly impressive, when it scales up to their energy centers and you can output up to 6MW/72MWH on a single acre of land, for 25 years, it suddenly sounds like the kind of things that cities and municipality would love. Throwing in that's non-toxic, easily recyclable and water-based is just whipped cream on top. I can't read the future so I don't know if/when they will pull it off but after spending a lot of time studying the issues with lithuim-ion and other battery chemistries, I believe they have the best chance of capturing a large share of the C&I and utility markets.
Do you have an idea why there stock is so undervalued?
@@salvadordavinci7 its a relatively new technology and utilities like certainty, no one wants to buy into the next Betamax, so it's slow going until people realize that this tech works. They do have quality customers though and as they become comfortable that these products will perform as advertised, I expect they will grow the deliveries at a healthy pace