NYC Subway Secrets: Why No I, O, U, P, Y Trains?
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- New York City doesn't have the busiest subway system in the world. That title actually belongs to Tokyo. And if you've ever taken a train here, you know we don't have the prettiest subway either. But we do have one that is easy to navigate. Trains either have numbers or letters. And as long as you know what direction you're headed, you're in.
The BMT, the IND, the IRT-if you think that all sounds like Greek to me, it is really quite simple. All three of those operating companies became part of the New York City subway system. So why is there no P train or no 8 train? So many questions, so little time. I found answers them at the New York Transit Museum in Downtown Brooklyn.
Associate Curator Jodi Shapiro is somewhat of a subway historian. She explained that the subway system used to be three different companies, each with its own nomenclature until the city unified the system in 1945.
The old BMT (Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit) system used numbers to order its trains, which prompted the IND (Independent) system to use letters. (The IRT [Interborough Rapid Transit] line was the city's first.)
As the MTA expanded, things changed. In 1979, the colors we see today were chosen. In 1985, all double-lettered trains were abolished. The KK morphed into a single K. Then in 1988, the K morphed into the A.
But why are some letters and numbers not represented at all? For instance, have you ever wondered why there's no P train?
Shapiro said a planned extension to the F line, officially known as the Culver line, was to be called the P line. But it never happened. The letters I and O were never used as designations because they look too similar to the numbers 1 and 0. The letters U and Y were never used because they sound like the words "you" and "why."
The moral of this story: there really is a method to the madness.
--CHRISTAL YOUNG
There was also a (9) train that existed with the 1, 2, and 3 routes until 2005.
The 9 train was discontinued because it was very unpopular. In my opinion they should do away with the Z train also.
The original #9 train was the Dyre Avenue Shuttle line in the Bronx!
8 train was the third ave el in the Bronx
Facts
It was cyan blue
@@BMTEnjoyer160 omg yes it was.
Every train is a pee train.
Yes, exactly! One train I don't like riding, though, is the "B" train. No matter what, I always wind up getting stung.
[Booing]
Very accurate
Avenue pee in Brooklyn,pee train lol.
Lol
The (8) Train did exist back when the Third Ave Line was still around.
Isaiah muniz In the Bronx or Brooklyn because the L train was there too.
John Jay Econimics The 8 was the remainder of the Third Avenue El in The Bronx, which ran from 149th to Gun Hill Road, where its terminal was on the lower level. It was marked 8 on maps but the trains never showed 8 on their signs -- the cars were so old they had no provision for numbers. (A similar situation existed in Brooklyn on the Myrtle Avenue El between Broadway and downtown Brooklyn at the Bridge & Jay streets station; that line was dubbed the MJ but the cars never showed that designation.) The L train was not the El. It was the 14th Street-Canarsie line. Parts of it are elevated, but it is not considered an El. In Chicago, 'L' is what the elevated trains in general are called, but in New York (And Boston, too) the elevateds were called Els.
(H) & (K) use to be canon.
See my post. The R-12s that eventually ran there did have numbers but the TA chose not to recycle the number 8 that was intended for use when the iRT still ran to Astoria.
I rode the 8 before it went extinct.
Presents a story about the details of the subway system...
Thinks the F train stops at Times Square...
Maybe they don't have brains.
justageneraluser lol.
But it does... Don't it? If you count Bryant Park, Herald Square, etc.
@@JoshuaTheTransitProdigy the f doesn't stop in times square.bryant part isn't in times square it 2 blocks down so that's where the f is
Joshua Coley Has times sqaure is the west side 42 is Times Square as234th street herald square I spent station
It was actually the IRT (not the BMT) that used numbers to name their train lines
It was both actually. The IRT had numbers way back in the 1920s that are almost exactly like those we see today. And the BMT had numbers too, such as the L train, which used to be the BMT 16.
www.thejoekorner.com/lines/suball-frame.htm
EDIT: the numbers on the IRT were not added until 1948.
Maxwell Apton
Ha! That would explain why the silver IRT number 3 trains number display can go up to double digits. I once saw one of those trains parked in a train yard and it was displaying the number 13 . Strange-but-true.
They were internally used but not publicly
And there was a number 8 Train that ran in the Bronx . The 8 ran on the remaining 3rd ave El
BMT used numbers as well.
I’ve been on the p train because some bum peed on it and then it became the P train.
MikeJ 2016 lmao
LoL Mike 2016
MikeJ 2016 i shouldnt like this cuz it’s stupid but I do 😂😂😂
Very funny!!
Well I have a new idea for the O and P Trains lol
The F train doesn't even stop at Times Square LOL
34 st; Bryant Park and Rockefeller Center.
More misinformation from a Fox News Affiliate.
Exactly wtf I said
2018 & we still confuse Herald with Time!
What the F?
Another reason why the 'P' train was never used because it sounds like pee
The H train was actually a Far Rockaway shuttle
Good report. The H or HH was off and on used for Rockaway Shuttles. The MJ was the Myrtle - Jay elevated for just two years and no train carried that sign. Many experimental or short lived routes existed from late 1967 into the 70s. The BMT numbering system 1 through 16 was officially changed to letters higher than H in 1961 but older trains running until 1969 didnt get the new roll signs. The original colors to accompany the routes appeared in late 1967 and lasted until the first version of the current map came out with new colors in late 1978 or 1979. The 1968 master plan of the MTA included a color map showing just single letter routes for all lines existing and proposed. The current system of trunk line colors is pretty good and will likely never change. having endured for 40 years.
Hello thanks for the information
the H is still used internally as the Rockaway Park Shuttle
IXofXIII no
@@harrythehamster72 I'm a former subway conductor. Yeah.
@@harrythehamster72 uhh yeah it is even the rollsigns carry the h sign
3:33 there is no F train to Times Square...
I think she meant a F train to a 7 train to go to time square
Fun fact: The (H) train does exist, it's just only referred to as the (H) train internally. Said train being the Rockaway (S)huttle.
3:26 When the 3 companies merged in 1940, it was known as the New York City Transit System. Then in 1953 the New York City Transit Authority. The MTA wasn't formed until 1968.
Some of these people are not native new Yorkers how do you not know there is no P train
I thought the same.
miss jackson exactly
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Not all take the subway (Taxi, bus, bike, even boat).
Can't wait for the (T) train to come back in service. It's been Decades!
Yes there was a number 8 3rd Avenue Local in the Bronx it was elevated. The latter portion 149th Street & Gun Hill Road. Portions are still up there on the 2 & 5 train...
The KK was replaced by the K (a shortened version of the KK) in 1973. That K train was discontinued in 1976. Later, in 1985 when double letters were eliminated, the K designation was brought back for a totally different route, the former AA train.
I remember the K train!!!! They used to use those really old, black cars for it. I've missed it so much since I was little!!
'Y' was considered for a Bronx-Second Avenue Subway service in the 1970s.
Actually it never existed y train on 2 Ave
To add more accuracy, the IRT, the oldest of the three, had numbers because of the age of each line, the oldest IRT (and oldest overall) was 1, the newest IRT is 7 (it used to be 8 until the 3rd Avenue elevated subway was demolished in the 1970s). The former IND is now lines A to G, was based off the routings and pairs and their six main lines 8th Avenue, 6th Avenue, Crosstown, Washington Heights, Concourse, and Queens Blvd. They first based pairing a local with an express. At first you had A and B, A - Washington Heights express via 8th Avenue and B-Washington Heights local via 6th Avenue. Then C and D, C - Concourse local via 8th Avenue, D - Concourse express via 6th Avenue. Then E and F, E - Queens Local via 8th Avenue, F - Queens Express via 6th Avenue. G was and still is the Manhattan bypass via Crosstown. There used to be a train called “H” which is now survived by the Rockaway Shuttle but it used to operate from Euclid Avenue and throughout the Rockaways, turning at Rockaway Park then to go to Far Rockaway via the Hammels Wye before returning back to Euclid in a sort of “loop”, so the H literally meant “(H)ammels”. Now that doesn’t include when the V ran because the V wasn’t created until 2001 so it only got a letter thrown to it. Again, that’s all how the IND system was based, before the use of double letters that eventually got eliminated. The BMT used to have numbers, which when taken over the city, were dissolved into the J through Z routes today, the letters given to them roughly represent their destination for the oldest BMT lines like J for (J)amaica, L for Canarsie (L)ocal, M for (M)yrtle Avenue, R for Bay (R)idge, Z for Jamaica (Z)oom. N and Q were more filler letters when the BMT came into Midtown Manhattan, same with when the BMT used to operate the T on West End which eventually was taken out for the IND B, which eventually was taken out when the W debuted in 2001 and ran on the (W)est End line, but got taken out for what’s now the D, now the W loosely represents (W)hitehall Street, it’s southern terminus. Again, this is just from the info I got and pretty much pieced together, feel free to correct any misinformation, but that’s as best and as accurate as I can put it.
and the B for (B)righton Beach
Their was an H train it was in the rockaways after Sandy hit
It ran from Euclid Ave to Rockaway when I was a kid although it was the HH back then. I thought it was cool that they brought it back after Sandy.
The following is common knowledge to native New Yorkers, but I'll say it anyways.
The numbered lines correspond to the IRT (Interborough Rapid Transit Company). The lettered lines from A to G roughly correspond to the city-run IND (INDependent Subway System). The lettered lines from J to Z roughly correspond to the BMT (Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Company). The M is a bit weird; it runs on former BMT trackage from Middle Village/Metropolitan Ave to the Chrystie Street Connection, and along IND trackage from the Chrystie Street Connection, on the 6th Ave Local, and along the Queens Blvd Local, to Forest Hills-71st Ave.
The Broadway-Seventh Ave, Lexington Ave, and Flushing lines (1/2/3, 4/5/6/, and 7/, respectively) are the core of the IRT system, which runs trains that are 10-car, 510 feet long, except for the 7/ which runs 11-car, 561 foot-long trains. The Nassau St, Canarsie, and Broadway lines (J/Z, L, and N/Q/R/W, respectively) form the core of the BMT network, at least of what remains of it. The BMT runs a mix of some 10-car trains with each car at 60 feet long, and some 8-car trains with each car at 75 feet long. Both combinations result in 600 foot-long trains, so both types fit the platform. I may be wrong on the length of J/Z trains; feel free to correct me. The L train only runs with 8-car trains that are 480 feet long (I think...). The Eighth Ave, Sixth Ave, and Crosstown lines (A/C/E, B/D//F/M, and G, respectively) form the core of the IND network. The two types of trains used on the IND are the same as the BMT, thanks to the IND being built with the same tunnel and rolling stock dimensions as the BMT. The exception is the G, which -- due to lower demand than other IND lines -- only runs 5-car trains at 300 feet long, although the platforms of G train stops can accommodate 600-foot trains.
The IRT portion is referred to internally as the A Division. The BMT and IND combined systems are referred to as the B Division. The 1-6 trains have 30 doors per side, and the 7 has 33 doors per side. The 10-car B Division trains have 40 doors per side, while the 8-car trains have 32 doors per side.
HostilePancakes, The One and Only most natives know no I don’t think a lot of us do lol I don’t. So thanks !
Yeah, the J, M, and Z are the same size as the L, 8 cars of 60 feet each, 480 foot long trains
The D also goes on BMT tracks in Brooklyn with the west end line
Im from Alabama and ive been to NYC twice in my life. I never rode the subway because i was told by cab drivers and other residents not to because they were so dangerous. I wish i had at least once. Just for the experience.
Of coarse the cab driver told you that because he wants his cab fare
2:05 Ummm they still have an A train... if that's what he said...
Trainsallday he said 8.
he said "8 train" buddy
there was a H train. in far rock!
Yup (H) & (K) use to be a thing.
@@Power-9Hunnid used*
Yeah I remember that why didnt the lady talk about it?
its actually Rock Park and its still used internally for the Shuttle
The U and Y seem like candidates for the Second Avenue Line if the MTA were to make it a 4 track system as originally intended in the IND Second System, with the T running express and the U and Y running local. The Z would also be rerouted to serve the express with the T.
The O, P, X, and V would run along another new main line in Manhattan: the 5th Avenue line. The O and X would run express while the P and V would run local.
@HeyItsVince the Z should be it's own branch and after 129th street or crescent street the Z should Merge with the J possibly making the J/Z interchangeable just like the 2/5
The T, U, V, Y should be the Second Av Trunk line. The T and U local, V and Y express. T terminates via 3 Av in The Bx in Wakefield, The U along Lafayette Av to Throgs Neck, the V as a crosstown 125th St Line, and Y terminates at Rosedale via Queens Blvd.
I say merge the J, L, and Z up Tenth Av/Amsterdam Av
Have the O be part of the Canarsie Line.
The I and X should be the Interborough Subway. The I being local and the X being express.
The H as part of the Eighth Av line, but send it down Myrtle Av into the Rockaways like originally planned.
The K and P should form a trunk with the G. Send the K up to College Point, and P down Lafayette/Myrtle Avs and terminate at Jamaica Center.
I was thinking they could reroute the W via Myrtle Av from Jay St - MetroTech to Jamaica Center.
Send the 7 down Flatbush Av and terminate at Kings Plaza.
Reroute the E and M via Stuyvesant/Utica Avs, branching off the Broadway lines
The W could have a new terminal in the Bronx in Pelham, via Madison Av, crossing into the 138th St Bridge then via Boston Rd
I actually found all this very interesting.
Put the U train on the track across from the F train
Lol
I heard the 0 (number) is actually used internally for the 42nd Street Shuttle, similar to how the Rockaway Park Shuttle is referred to as the H nowadays.
HOW ABOUT THE T TRAIN?
The T train is for the new Second Avenue Subway
The T train will go to the Second Avenue Subway after Phase 3 is completed
The T is for the second avenue if it ever get completed to lower Manhattan
I certainly don’t think the NYC subway is easy to navigate 😂 with different trains going to different places on weekends, some express, some local it actually seems like one of the worlds most complicated to me 😂
i kind of find it hard to believe that a New Yorker had no idea there was no I O U P Y train.... i figured that out my first few months living here.
Now Explain Queensboro Plaza😏🤔🤔
There are H trains, Still Today. It’s the Rockaway Pk Shuttle.
I found that if you can navigate the NYC subway system, going to other cities (like London) makes it easy to navigate their system! IMO
Don't get confused with the London subways if you're from America cause they drive on the left side of the road so will the subways in the train will be entering the station from the right instead of the left
Also if their was an o train, it just would look like a circle in a circle ⭕️. And true, O & 0 are similar/same shape (depending on font.)
The new Ttrain (SAS) or Q train should connect to the Bronx after 125street. Via new tunnel provisions and link up with B D on the grand concourse. The M going to middle village Queens to Manhattan and then Queens again is silly. M train should go to Brooklyn
Please bring back the V train!!
Contrary to what the reported stated, the MTA did NOT merge the three companies to one in 1940. The city did. The MTA wasnt created until 1968!
There use to be an 8 and a 9 under the IRT: the 8 was the old Third Ave elevated in The Bronx. The 9 ran skip stop with the 1 from 1988 to early 2000's
The H is the internal route for the Rockaway Park S shuttle in Queens
The IRT (numbers 1-7 and 42nd St Shuttle) is known as the "A" division while the BMT (letters J-Z, Franklin Ave Shuttle) and the IND (letters A-h and Rock Park shuttle) are known as the "B" division collectively.
the V ran as IND from 2001-2010
the W currently runs as BMT
Phase 3 of the Second Ave Subway (when service from 125th St to Houston ST begins) will introduce the T line
The New York City Transit Authority still has the #8 roll sign in each of their slightly older subway cars dating back to the 1980s. It’s just not use after the Third Avenue El was demolished in April 1973. So they can bring it back anytime the agency want to create a new subway line.
I doubt that anything newer than the R-15s (if those even have it) has the number 8 since by the time the next order of IRT cars came kin, the Astoria Line which was the original 8 was exclusively BMT.
The r62/a still has the 8 but green and 9 10 11 12 and 13. 10 and 12 Are green. 11 is purple. 9 and 13 are red
The r32/r46/r68/a still has the K AND H in blue
The r32 has a T U P I O Y but in white it also still has the brown R
The r32/r42 still has the brown m
The r46 has the L J M AND Z
The r32/42/46/68/a/160 still have the v
U train announcements Howard Beach to Bedford Park Boulevard
There has never been a T train, why was that never used?
It was used in the past
The T train is reserved for the new Second Avenue Subway when Phase 3 is completed through Manhattan
Also there was a K train too
The K train used to be the AA train until 1985 and the K train was discontinued in 1988
Wait a dam min, since when did F train stop at times square????
They should bring back the V train
I’m over here wondering why there isn’t any I C U P trains
But there is C.
Yes I know what the joke is, it's old.
Imagine the connection signs and announcements. "Transfer is available to the I, C, U, P trains."
@@kiyoshikimura977 LOL
I see you pee
Vermiculo there’s a c, fool
0:12 how TF is the nyc subway easy to navigate? Is it a joke that I didn't understand? Except tokyo, most subway systems are much easier to navigate than the nyc subway (with an understandable map, one color = one line, no trains that skip stations, no service that completely changes depending on the time of day and the day of the week, where you don't have to choose to right entrance to the station, etc ...)
Ouch. The BMT began using numbers with the arrival of the D-Type Triplex cars in 1925. The BMT switched to letter with the arrival of the R-27, R-30 & R-30A in 1960; the letters starting where the IND left off. Speaking of the IND, this was the City Built subway opened in Sept 1932. The line used letters for the routes, starting with A. The IRT, current numbered routed, didn't get their numbers until 1948, with the arrival of the SMEE cars, R-12 & R-14. Before 1948, the routes had names. BTW - There was an H train. It was a replacement for the HH train, both running on the Rockaway Peninsula, however, the original HH train was the Court Street Shuttle, going between Hoyt-Schermerhorn station and Court Street station, the current NYC Transit Museum.
Interestingly enough there are some subway maps around from the late 1940s that show the HH as a Fulton St Lcl between Court St and Bway/ENY with the Fulton St Line going to Euclid. Ironically, the HH shuttle was eliminated a year before the iND was extended that far. I have a photo of an R-1 mockup that shows a double digit number in the route sign box. Apparently when the city was no longer interested in putting the BMT out of business, it was hoping the BMT would take over operation of the new subway lines and it was expected that the BMT’s numbering scheme would be extended to those lines. When the BMT refused to operate the lines unless it was allowed to raise the fare, the city took over the lines as a subway system “independent” of either of the privates, hence the name “Independent Subway System” or IND and developed the lettering system which eventually was applied to former BMT lines.
The trains they need bring in service and back in service is the: (8) (9) (P) (X) (U) (V) and (T) Trains
There is a 9 train but the rest got cancelled
That no longer runs. 8 and 10-13 are just there for potential future use.
@@QuarioQuario54321 I've seen a 7 train with an "11" roll sign and have a picture of it. The color is magenta meaning that it would be a part of the Flushing line or maybe just a placeholder.
There was a 8 train but it ended in 1975
Looks like I have to put my Subway guide expertise into this. The K train was represented three different ways. First as the IND Subway traveling from 168th Street, Washington Heights to World Trade Center in the financial district. And then it ran along the Nassau Street line from Broadway Junction to 57th Street and 6th Avenue. Finally it was for a very short time the Rockaway shuttle which is now the S train and Rockaway Park. Now as for the the h train. The H train used to run from Rockaway Park to Euclid Avenue long before the S arrived. The X train is a work train it does exist its just not a commuter train, it's a work train.
The K and KK designations were used first on the Bway Bkln/6 Av lcl and used later on the Wash Hts Lcl to replace the AA as part of the program to eliminate double letters. It was NEVER uses for the Rockaway shuttle which fro most of its history used HH or H. Actually when Chrystie first opened in 1967, there was a train which ran from Brighton Bch to 57/7 through Stillwell and via the Sea Beach exp tks between 86 St and 8 Ave and the regular Sea Beach route to 57 St which was called the NX. Due to the lack of a truly smooth track arrangement, it was eliminated within a few month of operation.
.......how about Queensborough Plaza is the only station in the entire system where a "lettered" train stops on the same platform as a "numbered" train. They are the N, Q and 7 trains. Basically, u can transfer from the N or Q to the 7 without going up or down any stairs. You just cross the platform to transfer between trains.
The Astoria line originally opened with the IRT company as a spur off of the Corona line (corona line is now Flushing line even though only one stop is in Flushing). Eventually is was adopted by the BMT. The stations were then converted to adopt the wider bodied cars and the longer trains.
Notice hows theres a H train as a far rockaway shuttle xd
The H is just a designation, not the actual shuttle.
But the trains STILL gonna be late though.
The H train is just the historical way to say the Rockaway Park Shuttle
Also their are the PUXY billets, they are just for internal use.
The NYC subway sucks. The P train smelled like pee, I got stung by a bee on the B train, someone poked me in the eye in the I train, someone spilled their tea on me on the T train, and the C train fell off a bridge and into the sea!
Bad pun
Train widths also gives rise to this: number line trains can and do use letter line tunnels, but they will never stop at letter line platforms due to narrower train body leaving behind a gap between the train and the platform too wide to be safe. In reverse letter line trains will not use number line tracks at all since they are too wide to fit and forcing one down that track will result in equipment damage.
the P can come T is coming the X is Not In Service O is like a 0 and a circle
R142A and R142 were made in Japan The Kawasaki company
The H train existed as a shuttle from elucid avenue to the rockaways
u learn learn something new every day
We probably need a extension for the Culver Line With the F
The 42 street shuttle is the 0 train aka the toddler prince of irt.
OH! she was talking about trains, I was distracted.
i remember there was the bb cc aa LL trains in the 70s and when she say about the tunnels thats fact cause like the F train it was wide and the number 2 train it was wide but small..
BB was replaced by the B in 1967 with Chrystie. Due to the lack of planning on the part of the TA, proper signs were not ordered in time and many B trains continued to display the old BB signs.
The H train went to Far Rock
A and E are the only trains that are the vowels.
But the A train seems like i’m tryna go to a train not specifically
LOL I get it, a train
There used to be an H Train.
The p would look too much like a parking meter sticker the T had it on second Ave the h was on rockaways
Oh no girl the f train is officially the Eff’n train. Actually that’s all the trains at some point lol
No, it's the Fight train.
I’m gonna clear something up that was said in the video
The P was gonna be an extension of the Culver Line, like the 4 and 5 are essentially the 6 train but they go to Brooklyn
The number trains are also longer
There was an 8 train the Third Ave Elevated that was dismantled in the Bronx
I’m glad it’s been unified if it hadn’t been unified, subway riders would have to exit and pay another fare to transfer to another train which I find very stupid, a nuisance and too time consuming and not to mention it would have been expensive too.
Lets Pretend All Of This About The Mta; Lets Pretend That Only During Late Nights That Q Trains Stop At Queensboro Plaza, 39th Av, 36th Av, Broadway, 30th Av And Astoria Ditmars Blvd, Lets Pretend That Only During Late Nights That 2 Trains Stop At WTC Cortlandt, Rector Street And South Ferry, Lets Pretend That Only During Late Nights That C Trains Stop At 175th Street, 181st Street, 190th Street, Dyckman Street And Inwood 207th Street,
This is nuts.
You guys are natives, yet you haven't used the subway, to know the difference between the A division and B division?
Let me inform you of a few things.
U,X,Y,AND T were slated to be the Second Ave subway main trunk lines through midtown.
Since the line wasn't built as conceived, nor will it have express service whenever it's finished, the only line considered to operate there is the Q Broadway Express, and the T Second Ave local.
An connection to the Queens Blvd subway is in the works,but it is not known if a line will use it until capacity issues along the QB is addressed.
The subway will expand,slowly.
Several new routes and extensions are being planned as of this moment.
The BMT train cars were strong but the trains were not good SO they name the new train like R142A and R142 and the R160B and R160 and R46 also the R143 and the R179 and R68 all this models were call IRT
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I owe you pee why
there was an H train
what about the NX train
H was used as a shuttle in the Rockaways after the Hurricane Sandy destroyed everything in 2012.
Question I always wanted to know why is there no subway to Staten Island
Izzybx Cashtro there is, it’s called the Staten Island Railway
It’s on the East Side of Staten Island
mo zack thank you for know what I was asking 🗣
Because Staten Island currently has the Staten Island Railway, which is accessible via the Staten Island Ferry from Manhattan. Originally there were plans to build a tunnel to extend the Subway to Staten Island in the 1920’s but it never happened due to the Great Depression and the construction of the Verrazano Narrows Bridge in the early 1960’s. However New York City is considering future plans to build a Subway tunnel to Staten Island once the Second Avenue Subway is completed through Manhattan, The Bronx, and Brooklyn.
The H train use to run from The A train
There used to be a H train
Why no H, K and X? So many letters missed. Why no 9 and 10 train?
When I came back to New York City in 1979 JFK Express was in service calling The Train To The Plane
This has got to be the most lazily written news story I have ever seen.
Why would you mistake an O train for a 0 train? Why would the MTA even have a 0 train?
Plus ALL THE TIME people say 0 like O. It would make NO DIFFERENCE!
The H train still exists! Sure now it's a shuttle on the maps but internally it's still called the H.
The 8 train was on THIRD AVENUE. It was called the Third Avenue El for Pete's sake!
ALL double lettered trains abolished? A bunch of them were RENAMED! The AA became the K, CC became the H, the Diamond CC became the Diamond C, the GG became the G, the LL became the L, the diamond QB became the Q and both the the normal and diamond RR trains became the normal and diamond R trains.(upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Hey%2C_What%27s_a_%22K%22_train%3F_brochure_2.gif)
The F doesn't go to time square!
Next time Fox, when making a report,get your facts right!
Thumbs DOWN!
The CC never really became the H before it became the C. In non rush hours when the CC didn’t operate, the H shuttle operated between Broad Channel and Rock Pk and at night the H ran as the round robin.
Just bring back the red train's newly refined
I love maps and the NYC subway map is my favorite.
What about the t and v
Honestly in Adults minds, urine isn't called pee, it's called piss. For kids, idk, it depends on whether they're at the age of learning the alphabet or older.
This was stuff I knew since I was about 7 or 8. Tip, I live in Vancouver BC
Makes sense to me 👌🏾
Bring back the 9 train
And do what with it? It ran on the same line as the 1 train.
Some wrong info in this Fox5 skit. BMT was lettered not numbered. There was an 8 train that ran to Gun Hill Road, and there was an H train that ran for a short period of time servicing the A Train's Rockaway shuttle branch. When the transit woman mentioned the F Culver Line extension that "never" happened, I believe this was a reference to the Culver / 9 Street shuttle that ran from Ditmas Ave to 9th Street and was shut down in the early 1970's. The Culver shuttle designated as (S) or (SS) and was in fact an extension of the F. I don't know why the transit woman stated that never happened.
The bmt FIRST USED NUMBERS THEN LETTERS WHEN THEY ORDERED THE R27
Now I know my I have to walk 8 hours through Times Square stations to transfer..