Great video as usual! I'm missing some good digging weather here because of deer season so I gotta get my fix from UA-cam...lol... We located a camp where Franz Sigel camped near Rolla Mo. after his glorious retreat from the battle of Wilson's Creek. The camp was along a nice little spring fed creek with a rock bluff on the east side so I decided to go along the bottom of the bluff just to see if anything was there. I started finding several .69 caliber three ringers and some Colt revolving rifle bullets at the base of the rock. They were all badly deformed from impacting the rock, and you could pick out some impact spots in the rock ( which is soft sandstone). Over the last three years we've probably taken 300 bullets from along the bluff and Lord only knows how many dropped bullets and other relics from the fields surrounding the bluff.
Wow. I mean, WOW. That sounds like a jackpot honey hole. I think my fav part is the spots where the bullets hit rocks, still visible all these years later. Now THAT's wild.
The gopher from Caddyshack gathered them and that was his stash location. Will be one of those “how” we will never know unfortunately. Good stuff Walker, thanks for the vid.
Watching these from County Durham in England . American Civil War is one of my favourite topics to read about . Hopefully one day I can get over there and visit some of the places I have read about😊
An honor to be seen across the pond. Seriously! If you tour Virginia, contact me. I know some spots that are off the beaten trail and incredible to stand on.
Nice hunt. That downed tree was not there in 1864, but it was standing full grown when the first guy with a detector hunted that spot. If you found that many bullets under it, imagine how thick they must have been for the early relic hunters, and not just bullets. Your 19 bullet riddle is something to ponder.
Absolutely Chris. That's why UNDER big root balls is so profitable. This spot was a mile from my home place. THOUSANDS of fired bullets came from here.
Another entertaining video. Thanks Walker. Clueless about the concentration of various bullets in that small space. Just let your imagination run wild. Also, I get a chuckle out of your edit comments as you digging up something mysterious. Been there - done that!
The concentration of different bullets in that small area could have been unbeknownst to a previous relic hunter lost hiking back to their vehicle. Their relic pouch could have slipped untied from their waist. The first pouch I used was an old cloth nail pouch. It could have ripped open and poured out if he sat down or stumbled....what ever happened they were left there for you to recover and continue the story. Thanks for sharing and have a Blessed Day 🙏
Lots if lead in a relatively small area validates the intensity of the fight that I have read about. My 2x great grandfather; Co B, 8th NY Heavy Artillery, was wounded at Cold Harbor. Spent the rest of the war recovering in hospitals. The brass disc you found reminds me of an adjustment wheel you might see on some equipment. Was there knurling around the edges?
Hey Korn! New York heavies were thrown under the BUS and suffered horrendously. All the armchair-generals agree that they should never have been asked to do what they were asked to do. Incredible bravery on their part. I envy you that you know that much about your ancestor. And no knurling around the edges. Actually a very thin "channel" like it was a pulley for a very thin wire . . . (Some have suggested for old radio dial or clock weight)
@@thebattlefieldwalker2841 Yeah, its baffling to a heavy art unit would be pressed into an infantry role. when my grandfather passed, we came across his grandfather's discharge paper from the Civil War. With the info on that doc, i was able to request his military records from the National Archive. Surprising how much they sent me, and it included additional genealogical leads as well. Its a deep rabbit hole. I enjoy your digs brother, keep em coming !
Thanks Walker for another grate hunt I look forward for your next one . On those 19 bullets you found maybe someone in the past had found them many years ago and had stopped by the creek to clean there finds and maybe just forgot to pick them up but really who knows lol .
Another interesting video! I agree with your commentary about fired bullets. I understand why someone who is specifically interested in bullets would want to find specimens in pristine shape. I've always been interested in fired bullets because like you said, they each have a story and were fired in the heat of battle. A story that will never be known, but wondering if the soldier who loaded and fired it survived the battle? I'm collecting artifacts from two battles my ancestors fought in to put in a display, and both will have plenty of fired bullets.
Interesting hunt Walker, lve seen in a couple of instances where presumably the soldiers instead of pulling the bullets out of the muskets if not needed would pic a spot for target practice & simply fire the weapon, it's anybody's guess, that's the beauty of relic hunting, you can find most anything & when it's a mystery speculation is endless, look forward to your next adventure!
Is that brass wheel grooved like a pulley and is that a hole all the way through the center? If so it reminds me of an old radio "pointer" mover, when you turned the knob a string wrapped around another pulley on the other side of the dial. Both ends of the string terminated where the ends were attached to the pointer.
I've committed before, family history says a member was the preacher in mosby's raiders. This part I haven't posted. Watching dig some family history brings back good and ill feelings. Second wife n I has dispute. In the end went to jail. Sheriff confiscated 54 guns. Wasn't concerned about any but 58 Cal. Unfortunately only received 53 back from sheriff. 😢 Not a day goes by I don't think about that day🤠
2:10 could that be a pully wheel for a window counterweight? or maybe for grandfather clock weight? that was a good day. any civil war bullet tells a tale. my (fanciful) theory, is that that was one of those trees you see that had a spooky or human like outline that every soldier boy sentry whether union or rebel, that saw it took a pot shot at it out of fear, spite or mirth. and eventually, as with all living things, it died and decomposed in that hole leaving the plethora of bullets as its only trace.
Thurin, others talked of a grandfather clock weight pulley. I think that's a very strong possibility. But I do think it's way to thin for a window weight pulley. The groove is just wide enough to contain a thin wire.
My thought is maybe they were collecting the damaged bullets they found to remelt back into usable bullets. They might have run out of bullets and never got time to repurpose the damaged bullets before they had to retreat or move out. They wouldnt want to be weighted down carrying the weight of unusable bullets in battle.
I concur...it was very likely from a battle field surgeon who either dumped them all in one spot or the container/bucket was thrown out in haste or discarded and forgotten in a hurry to move out as troops are called to do in times of war. Very interesting to think of who was the last one to have touched or carried that bullet and was it to their final day or did they survive and live on after that terrible conflict? Only God knows but it is a fascinating thing to think on and wonder about. Mike in sunny Florida
@ Yep. Kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck when I think about the battles and the soldiers who fired or dropped them every time I see a bullet.
Yeah, we'll never know, but is plausible. Just thought I'd find something else if it was a medic. Mybe he paused there just long enough to take care of a few soldiers and then got the heck out of Dodge . . .
I like the idea that it was a surgeon next to the water and he was taking the slugs out, put them in a pan and when he was done, just reached out over and dumped them think about it that many bullets and one pot or pan or rag just disposed onto the ground they would spread out the size of a 2 1/2 gallon bucket. Why would there be that many different types of bullets very interesting?
I agree, it's a field hospital. The spot is a safe distance behind the lines and has water. All the bullets were fired, and there was a selection of all the different bullets being fired that day. What a historic collection to have. Imagine thet lives those bullets changed forever.
Good on the hunt hope for you to have a great Thanksgiving with your friends coming up next week a prayer from the Catholic subscriber to you "Bless us, O Lord, and these, Thy gifts, which we are about to receive from Thy bounty. Through Christ, our Lord. Amen." A sign of the of the cross to watch over you for safety. Still researching about it friend.
Nice assortment of finds! & a Soggy time was had by all. Thank You for taking us along
You got THAT right Steve!
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Great video as usual! I'm missing some good digging weather here because of deer season so I gotta get my fix from UA-cam...lol... We located a camp where Franz Sigel camped near Rolla Mo. after his glorious retreat from the battle of Wilson's Creek. The camp was along a nice little spring fed creek with a rock bluff on the east side so I decided to go along the bottom of the bluff just to see if anything was there. I started finding several .69 caliber three ringers and some Colt revolving rifle bullets at the base of the rock. They were all badly deformed from impacting the rock, and you could pick out some impact spots in the rock ( which is soft sandstone). Over the last three years we've probably taken 300 bullets from along the bluff and Lord only knows how many dropped bullets and other relics from the fields surrounding the bluff.
Wow. I mean, WOW. That sounds like a jackpot honey hole. I think my fav part is the spots where the bullets hit rocks, still visible all these years later. Now THAT's wild.
The gopher from Caddyshack gathered them and that was his stash location. Will be one of those “how” we will never know unfortunately. Good stuff Walker, thanks for the vid.
Jedi, If that Gopher retired to Fredericksburg, then I'll consider that theory!
Watching these from County Durham in England . American Civil War is one of my favourite topics to read about . Hopefully one day I can get over there and visit some of the places I have read about😊
An honor to be seen across the pond. Seriously! If you tour Virginia, contact me. I know some spots that are off the beaten trail and incredible to stand on.
Nice hunt. That downed tree was not there in 1864, but it was standing full grown when the first guy with a detector hunted that spot. If you found that many bullets under it, imagine how thick they must have been for the early relic hunters, and not just bullets. Your 19 bullet riddle is something to ponder.
Absolutely Chris. That's why UNDER big root balls is so profitable. This spot was a mile from my home place. THOUSANDS of fired bullets came from here.
Nice Lead filled day BW! Love to see you saving history! Take care Brother God bless!
Appreciate that Shane!
Another entertaining video. Thanks Walker. Clueless about the concentration of various bullets in that small space. Just let your imagination run wild. Also, I get a chuckle out of your edit comments as you digging up something mysterious. Been there - done that!
Um YEAH Gary. It can be quite frustrating!!!
The concentration of different bullets in that small area could have been unbeknownst to a previous relic hunter lost hiking back to their vehicle. Their relic pouch could have slipped untied from their waist. The first pouch I used was an old cloth nail pouch. It could have ripped open and poured out if he sat down or stumbled....what ever happened they were left there for you to recover and continue the story. Thanks for sharing and have a Blessed Day 🙏
I like the way you wrapped that up, Jeff. And sure a good possibility. I had a cotton sack on a cotton belt back in the 70s too!
Every one of your videos are good. I'm in eastern NC. We don't have the battlefields like you do.
Thanks for the kind words, J. I'm so glad I grew up where I did, NC is a SWEET spot, too! I vacation there!
Lots if lead in a relatively small area validates the intensity of the fight that I have read about. My 2x great grandfather; Co B, 8th NY Heavy Artillery, was wounded at Cold Harbor. Spent the rest of the war recovering in hospitals. The brass disc you found reminds me of an adjustment wheel you might see on some equipment. Was there knurling around the edges?
Hey Korn! New York heavies were thrown under the BUS and suffered horrendously. All the armchair-generals agree that they should never have been asked to do what they were asked to do. Incredible bravery on their part. I envy you that you know that much about your ancestor. And no knurling around the edges. Actually a very thin "channel" like it was a pulley for a very thin wire . . . (Some have suggested for old radio dial or clock weight)
@@thebattlefieldwalker2841 Yeah, its baffling to a heavy art unit would be pressed into an infantry role. when my grandfather passed, we came across his grandfather's discharge paper from the Civil War. With the info on that doc, i was able to request his military records from the National Archive. Surprising how much they sent me, and it included additional genealogical leads as well. Its a deep rabbit hole. I enjoy your digs brother, keep em coming !
Thanks Walker for another grate hunt I look forward for your next one . On those 19 bullets you found maybe someone in the past had found them many years ago and had stopped by the creek to clean there finds and maybe just forgot to pick them up but really who knows lol .
A very plausible theory, Duck. And maybe the best one! Not exciting but could've happened that way...
Another interesting video! I agree with your commentary about fired bullets. I understand why someone who is specifically interested in bullets would want to find specimens in pristine shape. I've always been interested in fired bullets because like you said, they each have a story and were fired in the heat of battle. A story that will never be known, but wondering if the soldier who loaded and fired it survived the battle? I'm collecting artifacts from two battles my ancestors fought in to put in a display, and both will have plenty of fired bullets.
They have more personality - that's for sure!
Think I'll walk a creek and shovel wet dirt and sand all day. 😂 God Bless
Got our first snow yesterday.
Yeah! Muck pulled the boot right off my foot one time. Soft spot in the creek. Hey, keep your snow up there, OK?
Interesting hunt Walker, lve seen in a couple of instances where presumably the soldiers instead of pulling the bullets out of the muskets if not needed would pic a spot for target practice & simply fire the weapon, it's anybody's guess, that's the beauty of relic hunting, you can find most anything & when it's a mystery speculation is endless, look forward to your next adventure!
Well said, Benjamin! "Endless speculation." I like that!
Is that brass circle the lid of a pistol percussion cap holder maybe? They had a device that held the percussion caps under spring-loaded pressure
I still don't know!
Is that brass wheel grooved like a pulley and is that a hole all the way through the center? If so it reminds me of an old radio "pointer" mover, when you turned the knob a string wrapped around another pulley on the other side of the dial. Both ends of the string terminated where the ends were attached to the pointer.
YES! It might be exactly that. Others have said from a clock (The weighted pendulum)
Awesome hunt
Thanks Michael!
I've committed before, family history says a member was the preacher in mosby's raiders. This part I haven't posted. Watching dig some family history brings back good and ill feelings. Second wife n I has dispute. In the end went to jail. Sheriff confiscated 54 guns. Wasn't concerned about any but 58 Cal. Unfortunately only received 53 back from sheriff. 😢 Not a day goes by I don't think about that day🤠
Evan, to me, that's a HORROR story!!
@thebattlefieldwalker2841 Thank you 🤠🇺🇸
2:10 could that be a pully wheel for a window counterweight? or maybe for grandfather clock weight?
that was a good day. any civil war bullet tells a tale.
my (fanciful) theory, is that that was one of those trees you see that had a spooky or human like outline that every soldier boy sentry whether union or rebel, that saw it took a pot shot at it out of fear, spite or mirth. and eventually, as with all living things, it died and decomposed in that hole leaving the plethora of bullets as its only trace.
Thurin, others talked of a grandfather clock weight pulley. I think that's a very strong possibility. But I do think it's way to thin for a window weight pulley. The groove is just wide enough to contain a thin wire.
A friend of mine found over 40 fired bullets in a hole about that size and he thinks they were all fired into a hole when returning to camp!
A good theory. For this spot though, zero evidence of a camp anywhere nearby, but ya never know!
My thought is maybe they were collecting the damaged bullets they found to remelt back into usable bullets. They might have run out of bullets and never got time to repurpose the damaged bullets before they had to retreat or move out. They wouldnt want to be weighted down carrying the weight of unusable bullets in battle.
never considered that Derek!
IN THE MUCK
Yeah. Not my favorite conditions Todd!
@@thebattlefieldwalker2841 oh well your finding stuff
I concur...it was very likely from a battle field surgeon who either dumped them all in one spot or the container/bucket was thrown out in haste or discarded and forgotten in a hurry to move out as troops are called to do in times of war. Very interesting to think of who was the last one to have touched or carried that bullet and was it to their final day or did they survive and live on after that terrible conflict? Only God knows but it is a fascinating thing to think on and wonder about. Mike in sunny Florida
Agreed Mike. I thought I was the only one who could stare at a mangled bullet for 15 minutes, thinking of the possibilities . . .
Not sure what to think of that bullet story. Very strange. I don't have a clue!
I would LOVE to know (without a doubt)
@ Yep. Kinda makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck when I think about the battles and the soldiers who fired or dropped them every time I see a bullet.
I think the surgeon theory is the best for that bucket of bullets.
Yeah, we'll never know, but is plausible. Just thought I'd find something else if it was a medic. Mybe he paused there just long enough to take care of a few soldiers and then got the heck out of Dodge . . .
Just think of all those mangled bullets and what they hit.
I'd rather NOT, Fred!
God bless CSA
In the words of Tiny Tim - God bless us every one!
I like the idea that it was a surgeon next to the water and he was taking the slugs out, put them in a pan and when he was done, just reached out over and dumped them think about it that many bullets and one pot or pan or rag just disposed onto the ground they would spread out the size of a 2 1/2 gallon bucket. Why would there be that many different types of bullets very interesting?
Lee, I like that theory best, too.
I agree, it's a field hospital. The spot is a safe distance behind the lines and has water. All the bullets were fired, and there was a selection of all the different bullets being fired that day. What a historic collection to have. Imagine thet lives those bullets changed forever.
@@davidallison2112 Oh my gosh David, if true, those bullets altered history, in a small or large way.
Model A ford Gas pedal is the whatzit.
That small?
Just a thought but, have these bullets ever produced any type of blood remnants that may have come from a field hospital?
Not that I know of William . . .
Good on the hunt hope for you to have a great Thanksgiving with your friends coming up next week a prayer from the Catholic subscriber to you "Bless us, O Lord, and these, Thy gifts, which we are about to receive from Thy bounty. Through Christ, our Lord. Amen." A sign of the of the cross to watch over you for safety. Still researching about it friend.
Thanks Kolbe! Right back atcha -
Maybe where an old relic hunter emptied his pouch ? And left all the shot bullets?
Several have suggested that Jessie, and it's as good a theory as anything else!
Probably the bullets were lost or dumped by someone metal detecting.
You know Jay, that's not a bad theory, and one I didn't think of . . .
I didn't get an invite😔
Surely it was lost in the mail . . . Get us a permission in Southside! We'll go! Lot's of Civil War activity over there . . . !
Mabey a soldier was gonna melt them to make more and didn't make it back to camp?
As good a guess as any, Grisham!
Maybe another detectorist dug them and only wanted droped bullets and discarded the fired bullets after a day of detecting?
Sure possible . . .
A human meat grinder of sorts.
You're exactly right.