Yo, that’s my bike!!! You guys did an absolutely amazing job. I couldn’t be more happy with the tune. This thing runs like a jet. I just wanted to personally thank you and everyone for being so proactive and thorough with my bike making my overall experience excellent. You guys really take pride in your work and it definitely shows. By far the best in Florida. Thank you💯
Congrats on a lovely bike that has an extra 5% more horsies putting out glorious performance. I just posted a question on fuel autonomy literally a few seconds before you posted this. Could you please enlighten us on how many miles you get per tank fill compared to before? That is, assuming you ride the bike in the streets, it isn't clear to me this is strictly a track bike. Cheers and enjoy your year round riding ability down there in FLA. Here in Canada I'm constantly looking out the window just waiting for the snow to melt enough so that I can take the Gixxer out. Do so every chance I get, even if it means having to dodge black ice and all the gravel the city puts out on the roads when snow falls. Coming home in one piece is always a win while winter riding.
@@mxracinguy5993won’t make much of a difference unless you are full throttle constantly. Ran my e85 r1 on the street all the time and never had much of a fuel milage issue in comparison. Maybe 15 mile less per tank at the most with normal riding. About 80 miles per tank on track which cmon it’s a 4 gallon tank so that’s not bad
@mxracinguy5993 it all comes down to driving habits! If you do a lot of "cruising" at a lower rpm range then mileage should be somewhat similar to pump gas but if you are more of an aggressive driver then mileage will drop off considerably. The guys who do a mixture of the 2 usually are getting around 80 miles per tank. But again, if you are more of a cruiser type then you should expect to get around 120 miles per tank. Also depends on the tune in your bike for e85 🤙
@@provenpowercycles Hah in that case E85 definitely isn't for me. The prospect of getting 8 to 9km per litre would mean heading across town to fill up at the sole station that carries this fuel every couple of days. Since I'm not a tree hugger I couldn't justify the expense/headache, although the added HP does sound sweet. Add our cold climate and the added warm up times it becomes unpractical. Suppose this would be a viable solution as a track bike for the added performance and cost savings compared to pure racing fuel. But it's neat to see that a Gixxer can run on this fuel with a tune and who knows, perhaps in the future we will all be using it whether we choose to or not. 'Till then I'll stick to E10. Would hate to wake up one cold morning and realize the bike won't start. Canada is a long way from Florida and its year round warm weather, you lucky guys.
Eric give yourself credit bro that bike is running good because the tuner tuned it right. FACTS !!! On clutch tension. This isn’t a car guys. My 750 was slipping the clutch because previous owner had the cable tight and non Suzuki clutch plates (which are trash if anything but oem) what I do is loosen clutch cable by the grip bezel to where the clutch arm at engine is loose enough for you to push by hand slightly. I hold arm in with very little tension and turn bezel. The moment I feel the cable build tension I stop pushing slightly on arm and I’m done. If you want your lever tight. Adjust it by the lever tension if aftermarket. Also said owner if you don’t plan on switching maps back and forth between Ethanol and pump. Change your oil after 800-1000 miles. Period.
Dude, you have to change the oil sooner because ethanol attracts more moisture and degrades the lubricant. Here, our gasoline has 30% ethanol. On our bikes, we change the oil every 2,000 km at most. Ethanol really does give you more power, but there are many delicate things. Another thing you have to be careful about is that ethanol creates cinnabar inside the fuel pump, which ends up blocking the pump and injectors when the bike is stopped. Another thing we do here is increase the flow rate of the injectors to feed the engine. I'm from Brazil, here it's common to use vehicles with ethanol, normally low-displacement cars and motorcycles, we don't use it in high-displacement motorcycles due to engine degradation, our ethanol is "hydrated" that is, it has water, you're probably using pure ethanol, it gives much more power.
Dope video 👍🏽 stock motor/weekend warrior mr12 and high compression race motor e85 or other ethanol blends above 20%….mr12 is more forgiving if you have a fuel pump issue while e85 isn’t.Both are corrosive but mr12 builds up a lot deposits on your valves potentially causing valve clearance issues in the future.
E 85 keeps the bike cooler overall, but I wouldn't leave a full tank in the bike, most don't know e85 gets gunked up if you let it sit. Mr12 is oxygenated, so you get more bang per RPM, but also it will eat up your injectors if you leave it sitting. But it's MR FTW
Been a while since you tuned my 16 r1. Going to the dealer in Feb and picking up a new 25 gsxr 1000. Ordered a full system, f1 filter, smog plates, cb dimpled velocity stacks, ceramic trans bearings, and a 520 conversion. Hoping to have you tune it on e85 for me and pull out 200+ whp after I break the motor in 😎
A blocked fuel vent in the cap will also cause fuel supply problems. The condition is worse the more full the tank. Over time fuel residue and dirt build within the cap. This will cause the bike to fall on its face during high hp operation, especially after re- fueling. J
I got a couple of e85 questions. 1 I noticed one time the bottles of oil that I put in my car say for gasoline engines. So do I need to run a different oil for e85? 2. With having to run more percentage of fuel, do you have a little bit more blow-by or fuel getting into the oil? So with the factory evap system, is it recommended to change your oil at a different interval or how should that be addressed on a street vehicle?
A few months ago while vacationing in Brazil I rented a flex car that run on 100% ethanol. It performed great in the city and highway and saved me some money in fuel costs. However living in Canada I wouldn't want to run this on my Gixxer, as I often ride the bike when it's -5C or colder. Can't begin to imagine how long it'd take to warm up, if it starts at all as I parked it outside. A key question I'd like to know is how many km (or in your case, miles) it gets per tank fill compared to normal E10 pump gas.
3:20 This makes me cringe so hard. My buddy ruined his clutch plates that way. Brand new bike, just hit 10k miles. Story time! Had a kid try and tell me his buddy was pushing 200hp on his 600 on pump gas (as if the type of fuel would bring any 600 even close to 200hp). I almost laughed in his face but I decided to be nice and let him think he knows better. What do I know! I've only been working on motors since I was 10 years old. I'm a newbie! Lmao
@walterskinner2147 usually you want to look at it as a percentage so it can give you realistic expectations as far as gains go. So 600s would gain roughly 5whp - 7whp gains.
Anyone have any experience with Blendzall gold label racing castor? I use it 1 pint mixed with 5 gallons of 93 pump. I have only used it on high comp. Dirtbikes and Rotax twins. It smells amazing, i just wonder if it is actually doing anything.
@provenpowercycles I've all but begged multiple channels to test it. It would be awesome to see your results. Check it out... Blendzall gold label racing castor. I order it online from chaparell motorsports by the gallon or pint.
Can't wait for my tune. Quick question.. say I put 93 in my bike but add the right amount of octane booster. Will that help with numbers and would i have to KEEP putting booster in every fill to keep the A/F perfect?
Yes, you would have to keep adding octane boost or it will fall back to that pump 93. You might have a little octane boost left if you you skipped it every other fuel up but the booster is burning with the fuel and when it's gone it's gone. Think of it like adding a drop of food coloring (octane boost) to water (fuel) and then dumping out 3/4 of the glass and then filling it back up with plain water, eventually that water is going to be crystal clear again.
@Aj_onabike Jensenmiller6410 is right. Perfect example to give you a visual. When we tune the bikes, they are tuned for the setup you bring the bike in with. If you physically change the octane of the fuel you're running afterwards then you will need to retune for the adjusted octane (depending on how much that octane level changed). 👍
It’s super common for them to be clogged/blocked from factory for whatever reason. Some have luck flushing and burping but a replacement usually fixes it 8/10 times (because Italy)
Would love to know what the cold starts will be like 6 months to a year later. You hear cars with race gas taking 7-10 business days to start - would be interesting information. What are the cons to doing this? A lot of information that could've been talked about. I genuinly think its a waste, youll be changing oil practically after every second ride. Yes it runs cooler but at what expense? Someone explain, this is crazy to me.
Modern motorcycles all can handle e85 and are designed for ethanol use because all fuel has it these days. Ran e85 in my 16 r1 and never once had an issue. Only thing you don’t want to do is let it sit stagnant in your tank for over 6 months because it does collect water and can cause the inside of your to rust if you allow that to happen. But if your someone that rides often it’ll never be an issue.
@@wudntulike2no32 That's true but in 10 to 15 % the higher number not recommended in auto and bikes. If care is used higher E85 # can be used if the tuned for it.
@marktarascio4766 i used to have a cbr1000rr back in 2012. I was told numerous times I couldn't run it (back in 2012) because the ethanol content would destroy everything and all that jazz. Well I also did a research project on e85 back in college (2008-2009 range) and knew as long as fuel system voukd handle the extra load then I should be okay. I ended up running the bike on a pcv with secondary fuel module and ig module for about 2 years straight. Never had an issue with my fuel system taking it 🤙
Yo, that’s my bike!!! You guys did an absolutely amazing job. I couldn’t be more happy with the tune. This thing runs like a jet. I just wanted to personally thank you and everyone for being so proactive and thorough with my bike making my overall experience excellent. You guys really take pride in your work and it definitely shows. By far the best in Florida. Thank you💯
Congrats on a lovely bike that has an extra 5% more horsies putting out glorious performance. I just posted a question on fuel autonomy literally a few seconds before you posted this. Could you please enlighten us on how many miles you get per tank fill compared to before? That is, assuming you ride the bike in the streets, it isn't clear to me this is strictly a track bike.
Cheers and enjoy your year round riding ability down there in FLA. Here in Canada I'm constantly looking out the window just waiting for the snow to melt enough so that I can take the Gixxer out. Do so every chance I get, even if it means having to dodge black ice and all the gravel the city puts out on the roads when snow falls. Coming home in one piece is always a win while winter riding.
@@mxracinguy5993won’t make much of a difference unless you are full throttle constantly. Ran my e85 r1 on the street all the time and never had much of a fuel milage issue in comparison. Maybe 15 mile less per tank at the most with normal riding. About 80 miles per tank on track which cmon it’s a 4 gallon tank so that’s not bad
@mxracinguy5993 it all comes down to driving habits! If you do a lot of "cruising" at a lower rpm range then mileage should be somewhat similar to pump gas but if you are more of an aggressive driver then mileage will drop off considerably. The guys who do a mixture of the 2 usually are getting around 80 miles per tank. But again, if you are more of a cruiser type then you should expect to get around 120 miles per tank. Also depends on the tune in your bike for e85 🤙
@Sloow.1k thank you for the good words Joe! We appreciate your patience on it all! I'm very glad you're enjoying it brother! 🙌🤟
@@provenpowercycles Hah in that case E85 definitely isn't for me. The prospect of getting 8 to 9km per litre would mean heading across town to fill up at the sole station that carries this fuel every couple of days. Since I'm not a tree hugger I couldn't justify the expense/headache, although the added HP does sound sweet. Add our cold climate and the added warm up times it becomes unpractical. Suppose this would be a viable solution as a track bike for the added performance and cost savings compared to pure racing fuel.
But it's neat to see that a Gixxer can run on this fuel with a tune and who knows, perhaps in the future we will all be using it whether we choose to or not. 'Till then I'll stick to E10. Would hate to wake up one cold morning and realize the bike won't start. Canada is a long way from Florida and its year round warm weather, you lucky guys.
Eric give yourself credit bro that bike is running good because the tuner tuned it right.
FACTS !!! On clutch tension. This isn’t a car guys. My 750 was slipping the clutch because previous owner had the cable tight and non Suzuki clutch plates (which are trash if anything but oem) what I do is loosen clutch cable by the grip bezel to where the clutch arm at engine is loose enough for you to push by hand slightly. I hold arm in with very little tension and turn bezel. The moment I feel the cable build tension I stop pushing slightly on arm and I’m done. If you want your lever tight. Adjust it by the lever tension if aftermarket. Also said owner if you don’t plan on switching maps back and forth between Ethanol and pump. Change your oil after 800-1000 miles.
Period.
Dude, you have to change the oil sooner because ethanol attracts more moisture and degrades the lubricant. Here, our gasoline has 30% ethanol. On our bikes, we change the oil every 2,000 km at most. Ethanol really does give you more power, but there are many delicate things. Another thing you have to be careful about is that ethanol creates cinnabar inside the fuel pump, which ends up blocking the pump and injectors when the bike is stopped. Another thing we do here is increase the flow rate of the injectors to feed the engine. I'm from Brazil, here it's common to use vehicles with ethanol, normally low-displacement cars and motorcycles, we don't use it in high-displacement motorcycles due to engine degradation, our ethanol is "hydrated" that is, it has water, you're probably using pure ethanol, it gives much more power.
Eric, Daryl, Louis the Proven Power Cycle Krew..... LET'S GO!!!! GIXXER BRAH😳😳🤣🤣👍👍👍
@@chaz951 🙌🙌🙌🤟
It would be interesting to make a video talking about the drawbacks and also about the cold start.
Dope video 👍🏽 stock motor/weekend warrior mr12 and high compression race motor e85 or other ethanol blends above 20%….mr12 is more forgiving if you have a fuel pump issue while e85 isn’t.Both are corrosive but mr12 builds up a lot deposits on your valves potentially causing valve clearance issues in the future.
You know I'll need to see a vid on that '22 14R strapped on the dyno 😅
E 85 keeps the bike cooler overall, but I wouldn't leave a full tank in the bike, most don't know e85 gets gunked up if you let it sit.
Mr12 is oxygenated, so you get more bang per RPM, but also it will eat up your injectors if you leave it sitting. But it's MR FTW
Im betting the fuel filter was a mess. I changed my filter out on my 2012 zx10r and it was super crusty even after a life on Shell 93.
Been a while since you tuned my 16 r1. Going to the dealer in Feb and picking up a new 25 gsxr 1000. Ordered a full system, f1 filter, smog plates, cb dimpled velocity stacks, ceramic trans bearings, and a 520 conversion. Hoping to have you tune it on e85 for me and pull out 200+ whp after I break the motor in 😎
Make sure they change that oil very often I would do every 300 miles on my busa running e85
A blocked fuel vent in the cap will also cause fuel supply problems.
The condition is worse the more full the tank.
Over time fuel residue and dirt build within the cap.
This will cause the bike to fall on its face during high hp operation, especially after
re- fueling.
J
I got a couple of e85 questions.
1 I noticed one time the bottles of oil that I put in my car say for gasoline engines. So do I need to run a different oil for e85?
2. With having to run more percentage of fuel, do you have a little bit more blow-by or fuel getting into the oil? So with the factory evap system, is it recommended to change your oil at a different interval or how should that be addressed on a street vehicle?
You coming to Miami ?
A few months ago while vacationing in Brazil I rented a flex car that run on 100% ethanol. It performed great in the city and highway and saved me some money in fuel costs. However living in Canada I wouldn't want to run this on my Gixxer, as I often ride the bike when it's -5C or colder. Can't begin to imagine how long it'd take to warm up, if it starts at all as I parked it outside.
A key question I'd like to know is how many km (or in your case, miles) it gets per tank fill compared to normal E10 pump gas.
3:20 This makes me cringe so hard. My buddy ruined his clutch plates that way. Brand new bike, just hit 10k miles.
Story time!
Had a kid try and tell me his buddy was pushing 200hp on his 600 on pump gas (as if the type of fuel would bring any 600 even close to 200hp). I almost laughed in his face but I decided to be nice and let him think he knows better. What do I know! I've only been working on motors since I was 10 years old. I'm a newbie! Lmao
So it was the injectors that were clogged or was it the e85 tune no sitting right in the Bmode ?
Do you target the same afrs as pump gas with e85? Very interested in this
Given close to 7-10hp gain across the board on a 1000cc, would it be realistic that a 600cc could pick up 4-5hp and a bit of extra torque?
@walterskinner2147 usually you want to look at it as a percentage so it can give you realistic expectations as far as gains go. So 600s would gain roughly 5whp - 7whp gains.
We're at in Florida I need a tune
@GASBASSASSANDBRASS We are in Saint Petersburg, FL but will be moving to Tampa soon 🤙
Can you guys tune a 2017 EBR 1190RX? It came with the EBR race tune and the HMF exhaust and a quick shifter from EBR.
@That-Dude-DRASTIC537 we don't have access to the EBR stuff unfortunately
Anyone have any experience with Blendzall gold label racing castor? I use it 1 pint mixed with 5 gallons of 93 pump. I have only used it on high comp. Dirtbikes and Rotax twins. It smells amazing, i just wonder if it is actually doing anything.
I just bought a mint k5 gsxr1000! I love it and can't wait until spring to rip it!
@@jasonmilam9930 we have not but we are always down for some testing!
@provenpowercycles I've all but begged multiple channels to test it. It would be awesome to see your results. Check it out... Blendzall gold label racing castor. I order it online from chaparell motorsports by the gallon or pint.
Can't wait for my tune. Quick question.. say I put 93 in my bike but add the right amount of octane booster. Will that help with numbers and would i have to KEEP putting booster in every fill to keep the A/F perfect?
Yes, you would have to keep adding octane boost or it will fall back to that pump 93. You might have a little octane boost left if you you skipped it every other fuel up but the booster is burning with the fuel and when it's gone it's gone. Think of it like adding a drop of food coloring (octane boost) to water (fuel) and then dumping out 3/4 of the glass and then filling it back up with plain water, eventually that water is going to be crystal clear again.
@Aj_onabike Jensenmiller6410 is right. Perfect example to give you a visual. When we tune the bikes, they are tuned for the setup you bring the bike in with. If you physically change the octane of the fuel you're running afterwards then you will need to retune for the adjusted octane (depending on how much that octane level changed). 👍
Why wouldn't it take map on b mode
@@6.5creedmoorrips6creedmoor2 we think it was a software glitch. I've never had that happen before on a gsxr.
that bike has more horsepower than my car lmao
Have you guys figured out the overheating issue with aprilia? 😊
It’s super common for them to be clogged/blocked from factory for whatever reason. Some have luck flushing and burping but a replacement usually fixes it 8/10 times (because Italy)
@The_Mod_Scientist appreciate the follow up. Keep up the good work!
Would love to know what the cold starts will be like 6 months to a year later. You hear cars with race gas taking 7-10 business days to start - would be interesting information. What are the cons to doing this? A lot of information that could've been talked about. I genuinly think its a waste, youll be changing oil practically after every second ride. Yes it runs cooler but at what expense? Someone explain, this is crazy to me.
You change the oil just as frequently with 93. I would recommend around 3k miles.
@Kawi_lou That's not bad, thanks bro
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That fuel injection system is not designed for E85 ....fuel pump ,gas lines,and injectors can fail prematurely....rust ,water ,wiring damage too
Modern motorcycles all can handle e85 and are designed for ethanol use because all fuel has it these days. Ran e85 in my 16 r1 and never once had an issue. Only thing you don’t want to do is let it sit stagnant in your tank for over 6 months because it does collect water and can cause the inside of your to rust if you allow that to happen. But if your someone that rides often it’ll never be an issue.
Ethanol has been in your fuel for over 15 years.
@@wudntulike2no32 That's true but in 10 to 15 % the higher number not recommended in auto and bikes. If care is used higher E85 # can be used if the tuned for it.
Rust water and wiring damage will not happen with e85. Ethanol had over 15 years to damage things and it didn't. It doesn't matter if it's 10% or 85%.
@marktarascio4766 i used to have a cbr1000rr back in 2012. I was told numerous times I couldn't run it (back in 2012) because the ethanol content would destroy everything and all that jazz. Well I also did a research project on e85 back in college (2008-2009 range) and knew as long as fuel system voukd handle the extra load then I should be okay. I ended up running the bike on a pcv with secondary fuel module and ig module for about 2 years straight. Never had an issue with my fuel system taking it 🤙
What is “that” being said? Lol
He should make it the trade mark of the channel, he says it at least 5 times a video.😊
Ich verstehe nur bahnhof😂