Racism will never go away if we pretend it never existed. I think teaching children the truth about racism throughout history would contribute to an awareness of how wrong it was and still is, which can only be a good thing.
letting racism go away doesn't mean it did not happen it just means it won't happen to you If i said blacks are the dealer and slaver in slavery for 2000 years, that would NOT be a theory critical of the african race, it would be a fact blaming their descendants and holding them responsible would be racism and CRT slavery was so ingrained in african culture, africa has no historic jails and all blacks born today are descendant of slave dealer and slavers germany used CRT in the 1930's, the democrat's klan used CRT in the 1800's
@@palofthepaw I think that you have that backwards. If you don´t talk about Race in this country IT WILL NEVER GO AWAY. You have to understand Racism has been around this country and the world since it´s inception. IT WILL NEVER, NEVER GO AWAY? Go away? Let´s get this straight. You think ignorance will ever go away? No of course not, due to it being part of human emotion. Do you think Prejudices will go away? No it is part of the human trait. Racism is a INVENTED emotion that is taught and passed down from generation to genertion due to fragil egos, thinking that some Race is superior to another due to INDOCTRINATION of that said RACE of people to practice it and have it not only known verbably from group to group but having it ENGRAINED into the MINDS of those people until it is so embedded there that they CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT IT. They MUST have it and practice it. Without it THEIR HOUSE OF CARDS WILL COME CRASHING DOWN. Some may change, but the vast majority of them WILL NEVER CHANGE. They would rather DIE than change the way they have always been taught that they are better, wiser, prettier, invented all things that are usable to make life easier, and that all that they have is due to HARD WORK and they are ENTITLED TO IT ALL . Just them. No one else.
I agree. The way it is now little white children are taught that they are better people just on their skin color alone. You don't even have to say it. Just teach that same old drag they've been teaching for over a couple of centuries now.
He literally didnt realize what he got himself into when he published his Book, because it is absolutely clear that he is struggling and cant seem to confidently defend his position or what he's claiming...even in this short Interview.
@@jayregal6478 You're tricking yourself by playing with words. History is made up of events. All events (why they happened, etc.) can be, and are theorized.
@@michaeldelyjah5696 TRUE! But lets look at it this way. Acknowledging that an event happened and the brutality of the event , and how the event affected the the lives of certain people is a known fact and not subject to interpretation. Two plus two is four. No need to theorize.
@chris lauricella as if the racism it is exposing wasn't racist to begin with. The problem is the initial racism not speaking about how that racism is and was implemented within society through institutions.
@Monday night We're not the ones worried about CRT. The white nationalists are the ones twisting it to create chaos and confusion. Ignorance is never the way. Now that it's in the collective consciousness it would behoove us to know something about it
@Monday night Whoa whoa whoa watchyaself son!!! It ain't gon be what you want it to be. Pump ya breaks. The whole CRT talking points were made a thing by white people who are fighting tooth and nail to hold on to what little bit of power they have left b4 Amerikkka crumbles. I don't care about democrat or republican, it's all the same to me. You're right, they build factories to continue to enslave other human beings. And to capitalize off the pockets of fools who don't see it for the reality it is. You don't have to teach homosexuality it is and an always has been a part of the human experience like it or not. You need to chill b4 you blow a gasket. Go in peace not in pieces
@Monday night Cleary you're the ignorant one!! U insist on name calling rather than engaging in a productive conversation. Find somebody else's time to waste with your non productive back and forth bullshit
@Monday night Look Amazon, WalMart, Levi Strauss( who happens to have a factory in Haiti) let's see how much they pay their employees or invest in the communities they profit from. You really are ignorant. At first I thought you just felt like debating but I now see clearly. Being ignorant is not the problem it's remaining ignorant that makes you the fool. I'm done sir
Goddamn! Can all the black people that refuse to stick up for black people get on a spaceship and leave earth??! Surely, we can criticize ourselves, but some people are frigging ridiculous!
@@jaredquick644 admitting and speaking about how racism and white supremacy specifically against and centered around black people is bred into this country is not taking up. It's frigging weird to see supposed black people say it.
I just want to know why is everyone so hell bent on protecting white children. Who protected our children when they were not even allowed to go to school. This is exhausting!
Every child needs to be protected. And CRT, and its equity tentacles, is making ALL children less safe. In my school district, there is no longer any suspension because of accusations of racism. They will not suspend any children under any circumstances - especially if they’re brown/black. Even if that child has done something inexcusable. For example, a black boy in my daughter’s high school threw a chair at a teacher. He was not suspended, and the teacher refused to call the police because she didn’t want to be seen as “racist.” They had a “mediation” with the boy, and put him back in class… Three days later, that boy punched another boy of color in the face, and ended up pushing a black girl down the stairs. She broke her clavicle and arm. The father of the girl finally called the police. None of that should ever have happened. But CRT says: 1. The violence by people of color is the result of racism by white people. 2. Suspensions for violent behaviors is evidence of racism. 3. That boy had no ability to make decisions for himself because of structural racism… As a brown/black man myself, where is personal responsibility? Do these people not think I’m capable of self-modulation just because I’m brown? CRT, progressivism, wokism, etc., has been destroying schools for decades. I’m happy people are finally starting to realize how truly dangerous and destructive it is.
There is something seriously wrong when black people, or "mixed race" as this interviewee prefers, start sympathizing with and advocating for the perpetrators of racism while condemning the victims of racism. Btw, they hate using that term "victim," because if there is no victim, there's no crime, right?
@@kingc1198 you know which group of people historically oppressed others? almost every other group of people in the world. africans still do it to africans in 2021. asians do it to asians, etc. LOL you know what the Aztecs did to their slaves?
@@BLaCkKsHeEp ok and ? That like saying " well other guys rape so its ok for me to rape too".that basically how you sound about slavery and beside there were more events that happened to blacks after slavery
@@kingc1198 lol if that's the case then why continue doing it to their own people in this day and age if the sole oppressors are white folks? and sure, there were more events. there was a genocide in africa for one. you heard what the chinese did to their own people during Mao's reign? you know how many civilians Japan killed during ww2 in Asia? oppression/slavery/genocide is not exclusive to black people nor is it exclusively committed by white people.
The professor is going to sell a tremendous amount of books. The value of “shock and awe” is a very lucrative angles, this new phenomenon, Black immorality. How to peddle, radical incendiary, unethical rhetoric for profit. Love his nefarious smirk, he of all people, knows he’s selling nonsense
He has obviously taken the position of being one of the "Black" folks who make it his business to make "White" folks feel "comfortable"about the atrocities committed and the ones that continue.
The real problem is that the black community by and large continues to vote and support the Democratic party. The Democratic party leadership has built anti-black institutions beginning with the war on poverty all the way through the war on terrorism that are built to surveil and oppress poor, black and brown communities. The black community has no one to blame but themselves for their own oppression because they continue to support their oppressors. Both Democrats and Republicans continue to fund these institutions they've built over the last 60 years like militarized police, no knock warrants, mandatory minimums, different sentencing for different drugs based on what a community prefers like crack rock versus cocaine powder, and it goes on and on allowing things like redlining in the banking institutions only now it's by a different algorithm or data set. You need to wake up and vote libertarian 💯. You need to fundamentally change who you're voting for and why. The Democratic and Republican parties are your oppressors.
It’s funny that he doesn’t go this hard for the millions of Black children’s souls who have been and are being murdered in this white supremacist world for centuries 🙄. These white kids will be fine and hopefully better if they learn about this.
None of thus CRT stuff means anything. Children will continue sitting with their own race in the school cafeteria and adults will continue assembling with their own race in prison.
Exactly Advent! These white kids will be fine, and even if they aren't that's not a problem. Maybe if white children start exhibiting psychological trauma, the world will finally take us seriously!
Maybe it's just a cosmic order after untold millions of Black childrens' souls and bodies been destroyed! The sins of the fathers be visited on generations after....
@@hendricktheodule9793 eh we'll all die anyway like odc if youre one of the few to die peacefully youll be decomposed and fed in by the microbes lol god as far as i know doesnt exist nor is he relevant.
@@hendricktheodule9793 I followed the conversation perfectly but added a different take on it. Sorry you are so narrow in your views as to what is being spiritual and what is Christian. Too bad.
I think he's saying it's mutated over the years. Yes, there are people lumping too much under the heading of CRT. But CRT theories and philosophies and terminology has fueled a lot of these diversity trainings. And some of the serious academic CRT writings have very problematic elements, even though the main aim of CRT to critically review laws and systems and their racial effects is laudable and worthwhile.
@@charliewatts6007 That's a long essay that would be hard to do justice to in a short comment. My best short summary is that it uses a lot of terminology that made sense coming out of the 1960s when you had laws blatantly defining, dividing, and oppressing people on the basis of being black or white. But the U.S. has become more diverse and complex with it's racial definitions and power dynamics, even genetically with a growing racially mixed population, and a lot of CRT thinking and terminology seems to be clinging to the 60s. And we have new waves of black immigrants whose ancestors didn't go through slavery, Jim Crow, etc. which makes a profound difference in their U.S. experience. In sociology studies, sometimes you need to divide people into broad groups to chart broad trends, but that always runs the risk of trying to define the whole group by the trend. CRT for all it's academic niche, often lacks a lot of subtlety and nuance. It hyper focuses on certain aspects of racism while ignoring others. And some of that is necessary if it's restraining itself to legal theory, but if you want to aim to dismantle racism at all levels, you need those more nuanced discussions. Particularly if you apply it to teaching practices, psychological impact needs to be considered. Even here, you have a body of writings from different authors who are batting around ideas, so some of the ideas are better than others. I listened to another interview with Hill where he explains himself better than he does here. And I'm not 100% in agreement with his stance either. I just think CRT is complicated, and we need to be willing to criticize where it falls short, even if we embrace the general aim. It had a lot of academic controversies while it was still a niche ideology most people hadn't heard of.
@@minimumwagesink5956 -- Before we enter into a discussion of Critical Race Theory, it might be a good idea to see if we can come to an agreement on what exactly we're going to talk about. In one sentence, I use to term "Critical Race Theory" to signify the Critical Race Theory movement -- a collection of what I refer to as Critical Race Theory scholars and theorists who share an interest in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power. What do you have in mind when you use the term? Thanks.
@@minimumwagesink5956 -- I use the term "Critical Race Theory" to mean the Critical Race Theory movement -- a collection of activists and scholars interested in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power. Is that what you are referring to? Thanks.
After doing a background check of his origin, where he’s from, I’m not surprised of his position. It’s almost safe to assert and expect a non-Foundational Black man to take this position.
Plant!!!!!! When a so called black man cannot find fault in the false history of america they are trying destroy any attempt to tell the truth. they feel they must protect whites by any means necessary. Would there even be any discussion if no one challenged the founding fathers.
Do you people even try anymore with your ad hominems? "Oh he's not ADOS so of course he won't agree with us." I wonder what your reaction is to ADOS who disagree with you on the subject. "Oh they're not really black but have been indoctrinated by white supremacy blah blah blah"
@@leonardu6094 the term, “you people is insulting and racist!” Clown!!!! I speak from experience attending college with foreign students who might resemble me in complexion, however, they WERE conditioned “ supporting the white agenda” while degrading what the descendants of slaves on the continent of America have experienced. Same I corporate America.
Whoa there guy... Jamaicans/Caribbeans/etc are foundational to the Black experience and I dare add our contributions are essential so don't go creating hierarchies of Blackness and stating generalities. That said, while he states his point in inflammatory way, he's not wrong. CRT aims to elucidate the truth of systemic racism and if some people who cling to their ideology of whiteness get crushed, if their soul of "whiteness" (eg. the sense of privilege and whiteness as default, the bubble of white identity lies, the spurious belief that the past actions of amerikkka have no effect on the present) if all that is murdered THEN LET IT BE MURDERED. Let them become empathetic, let them gain humanity, let them see how the falsehoods of whiteness and the shackles of white supremacy not only lessen and weaken human potential (becuase white/western supremacy is the core of current economic hegemony)... but whiteness also makes that child a fool and a liability to the human race. Why are we still dealing with racism in America? Because white people are still raising their children to be racists! Fortunately, education is powerful tool for breaking the chain of inherited racism.
The fact that this man just calmly and passively ignore the questions about his derogatory terms that he used shows how dangerous his mindset is, but he’s supposedly is an educator 🤦🏾♂️
I've always been amazed that they think we should protect their children from the truth that our children live. Let the truth speak for itself. They're afraid their children will see the the truth of what was done and is being done and make the needed changes. They fear CRT will be the end of ws.
Are you as equally amazed that educators are not teaching how black males, making up for less than 7% of the population, are responsible for more than 50% of homicides? Shouldn't we avoid anything that implies an entire race as mostly responsible for any social ills of American society? Isn't it better to teach kids how to think, as opposed to what to think. (One is education, the other is indoctrination). As for "What was done," it was not done by whites alone and there is not a single person that you nor I know, who was part of it. What should amaze you is that seniors are graduating high school with a 6th grade reading level. As for what is being done, please point out these "white supremes."
U and everyone that thinks like u is why it should be stopped , y'all don't care about white people u think ur some how better bc ur black lol it's ridiculous and u think that white people think they are better but we don't white people teach their kids that race DNT matter y'all teach ur kids to hate white people bc of something that happened 100 yrs ago
The issue I have personally with the CRT debate is. 1.) CRT is a college course and it’s not being taught in elementary and high school classes. 2.) People are using CRT as a scare tactic to remove certain books from their classrooms’ curriculum. We can all agree that Dr. King was a great man but now under the guise of it being CRT Speech most of his speeches post I Have A Dream are not being taught in classrooms. Malcolm X is to diverse and so many other influential black people are not being taught in classrooms. Even the guest is a college professor not a high school or elementary school teacher. So that should tell you that an agenda is being pushed. The uncomfortable parts of American history which include black people and the mistreatment at the hands of this country that we have received they now want to leave on the cutting room floor and reshape the narrative of this country’s history. That is what truly needs to be discussed not CRT.
We gotta stop letting these guys flow from their scholastic language into their religious language so easily. As soon as he says "infallibility", I'm asking, "who claimed CRT (THEORY) was infallible?" Also, he doesn't get to call other teachers "radical" when the admittedly "incendiary" title of his article is abt murdering souls. Can't give them that premise.
They want to keep that 'narrative so they DONT have to speak about race in America. Whenever the subject of race is brought up, they find an 'excuse' to dodge it with their dogmas.💯
Very easy, the proponents of CRT claim it is infallible by proxy. Just call every attempt to criticize it racially motivated or biased or bad faith and then say that there are good faith criticisms but these aren't it. Then they do t give an example criticism, it has no areas that they point to and say that it could be weak or wrong. Any theory whether scientific or otherwise must have a way of being disproven, even gravity can technically be disproven its just extremely unlikely, CRT can't be disproven and it's literally baked into the CRT argument. If your theory can't be disproven it isn't theory, it's religion.
@@jaxmiller724 this is BS. You didn't answer the question. WHO? That would involve names. You can say "they" all you want and say that all of "them" refuse to hear your critiques but when you are given a chance to argue and give your sources you spend all your time complaining about the refs.
The purpose of Critical Race Theory is to have endless debates like this. Institutional Racism is not a “Theory” to be debated! The constant debate keeps the focus off of real solutions that dismantle the Racist Systems. Our focus should be on a Black Political Agenda. 1.Reparations for FBA 2. Protected Class Status for Black Americans. 3. Police Accountability and Punishment. 4. Economic Martial Plan to close the Wealth Gap. 5. Affordable Home and Land Ownership for Blacks. 6. Anti Black Hate Crime Bill. 7. Tax Exemption for Black Descendants of American Slavery, etc.
Exactly....an we are (FBA) Foundational Black Americans....our ancestors built the foundation of this country through their back breaking work 7days a week 12-16hour days....along with their many inventions (many of them stolen by the way) which enabled all of us black an white to enjoy a better standard of living
Although he sort of acknowledges what “the right” is doing I still find it very disturbing. All I have to ask is, what about our souls ? Why do we as black students feelings and life experiences have to be suppressed in order for white kids to feel comfortable? Our souls are damaged everyday we wake up. We have to worry about getting killed by the police and white people because of our skin, we have to worry about being s*x trafficked or trafficked for our organs, and when we become adults we’ll constantly face being locked out of opportunities systemically and wealth. White people, even poor whites don’t have to go through that. But ofc let’s “protect their fragile souls” 🙄🙄.
What does making black children feel safer and less burdened by experiences of prejudice or the fear of such experience- what does that have to do with instilling white guilt in white children, whether explicitly or implicitly? There needs to be a move in our culture towards compassion for ALL conscious creatures: white and black children are both conscious creatures, and we must care about them equally. It isn't enough to say "Oh white kids have more money, they don't suffer as much or their suffering doesn't matter as much, so we don't need to be careful in how we treat them": that is ethical laziness. For example (in general), white kids are much more likely to suffer from social isolation, various mental disorders, and a lack of healthy physicality, than are black kids whose culture provides much of that for them. The point is this though, there is no way for black people to rise if respect is not given to non-black people too. I can guarantee you that this "anti-white" trend, as much as it does exist, makes white people more defensive and unsympathetic to black troubles, not less. And where it *seems* to work (like in wealthy white liberals) it is out of FEAR of being called a racist and ostracized by their peers (i.e. other wealthy white people).
@@julianmarx2002 bro stfu. Nobody is anti white. Personally, I’m not going to sugar coat history or what white people have done to us. It’s not about making white children feel guilty, it’s about them knowing their history so they’re aware of what’s going on around them. I’m a black dark skinned teenager. You can’t deny that this country was built for white people, not anyone else. So because im interested and invested in what’s best for my race it makes me anti white ? Boy bye ✌🏿. The only people I care about is the African diaspora and indigenous peoples because other “minorities” have been anti-black and colorists since they had civilizations . miss me with that bs✌🏿. This system wasn’t built and designed for us so it’ll never work for us. good bye, I don’t sympathize with colonizers ✌🏿.
Don’t be confused black brother this man speaks the truth! CRT is waste of our black children’s time, when they can barely read, write and do math! CRT is an excuse as to why they can’t compete. Even those illegal immigrants are now out performing black children. If this CRT foolishness continues these kids will be asking illegal immigrants for jobs!
@@horaceward6737 , Crt only reveals the truth about american history regarding systemic racism. It points out why and seeks solutions. Your ideals sounds insidious and deceptive.
@@marwar819 As a Jamaican, I believe that Hill represents the inability of the half-caste/red Jamaican middle class to see itself in terms of the Balck American cultural and social milieu.
@@anthonybailey8317 Well, why don't you explain it to us then? It couldn't be much different than any half caste people all over the world. Many of y'all are trying to look half caste by using those bleaching products that are unhealthy and are going to kill you.🙄🤔
One big problem with this discussion is a refusal for the majority community to closely examine their behaviors and both what and when they're energized to "fight". Well before Hip-Hop existed, Mark Twain, Charles Dickens, and ALL of the classic authors used in school either didn't mention Black people at all or referred to them as the N-Word....FOR OVER a CENTURY.... No Town Hall meetings. All children's books had White people at the center- actually, let's take it a step further. Our education system is an extension of European Imperialism so they brought all of the things THEY thought were valuable - ALL "important" history is told from White people's perspective. All Honors, AP, and highly valued curriculum is based on White writers, philosophers, scientists, etc. Again...since the beginning of our education system that's been the case. By the way, that reality has ALWAYS been intentional and we take for granted how consistent exposure to one thing begins to shape our preferences...and eventually our values and beliefs. So introducing something different into the curriculum, removing White people from the center of the conversation, etc., is a deviation from the norm. Do we realize the harm that our books have caused to non-White people? We never even cared actually. As with MOST things in this country, we don't care unless White people are hurt by it. The unwillingness to examine that reality is mystifying when it's right in our face. But to examine it would mean an acknowledgement that there's an active resistance to changing the status quo because it works for the majority and the rest of us have figured out ways to find comfort in a system that's harder to navigate for some than others.
Thank you for your outstanding comment!! We have ALL been deeply indoctrinated through a controlled narrative of European centrality and their belief of superiority to the point where we simply remove an analysis of power, oppression, and control based on phenotypic characteristics. We have an inability to detect its ubiquitous existence. It is the fish's inability to recognize it is swimming in water. To the fish, the water isn't something to detect. The water simply "is" with no expectation to question its presence or origin. This is America...
@@listener84 But even he said he looked at school districts and decided to make an interpretation based on parents and teachers, but he doesn't actually point out where there is actual CRT. He used discussions on race in school districts to say they were teaching CRT because he wanted it to sound incendiary. So yeah at best its well written anecdotal evidence with no supporting curriculum to point to
@@lamarholmes4573 No, the first thing he does is mention the articles where he goes into that in detail. It’s the first thing he says after MLH’s question at 9:13
At 9:13 he literally talks about how he got anecdotal evidence and never mentions actual curriculum. He also admits it was meant to be incendiary to drive his point
@@lamarholmes4573 no he doesn’t. He said in those 3 previous publications, he identifies the districts and schools in Seattle and Ohio but that he wanted to make this paper a distillation for brevity. This was in response to the claim that “it’s never a teacher, it’s never a district, it’s never a school.” (Paraphrased)
Consider how blacks, Browns, Natives, Japanese, and Chinese feel about the lack of inclusion in American history. It is killing our souls when our story is left out. What they are calling CRT in schools is simply history.
If you want to see what a people with broken souls look like just look at the native Americans. America should feel utter shame about what they did to these people.
@@jamberry8026 I don’t think many native Americans would describe themselves as having broken souls, and it’s a bit fucked up for you to claim they do for them to make a political point…
What about Hungarians? I only know about why Hungarian immigrants came to America from my Hungarian family, they never taught it to me in school. What about my history?
@@jamberry8026 I know some Natives. I've dated a few. I've an adopted family member who is Hochunk. I lived near and worked on a Shoshone reservation in Ely, Nevada for some years. They are NOT people with broken souls. I'm an atheist but "soul", from my understanding of the concept that it is a transcendent force, is the strongest thing about the Natives that I encountered.
@@willisverynice what legacy do Hungarians have in America? What is the landmark case that they have? Is there a historical event that shifted the America's way of thinking or had groundbreaking impact? 🤔
I have a problem with racism period especially white people. When, it comes from my own people towards me as a black man, it makes me want to be violent and insane. I grew up in the south and experienced things people like this professor will never experience.
Anytime I've tried to sell some of my old shit like ps4 or laptop the black Clerk always thinks I stole it and the white one has to tell him to chill smdh
There is no Black person alive who has or is even able to marginalize you so just cut the bullshit. People not liking you has nothing to do with racism.
He's saying critical race theory isn't the problem. It's the way it's being taught(teachers). And teaching critical race theory will upset white children. Well if I found out my great grandfather was a rapist, I'd be upset too. But does that mean we hide the truth from children? Or teach the teachers the correct way of teaching critical race theory?
Just b/c some white people were racist. Doesn't mean their grandfather was racist, but that's the way they want the kids to feel. Teaching Slavery obviously teaches that some people were racist. Systemic Racism is true in some situations, but teaching the entire system is racist is INDOCTRINATION! "C'mon Man"
The system in America was built to be beneficial to mainly one race and the wealthy. There were whole cities and towns that didn't allow black and brown. Higher rates on loans , less pay with the same qualifications, steeper penalties for the same violations of the law. Advances in medicine because of experiments, operations and surgeries done on blacks and browns. Done during a time when it was believed that black and brown didn't feel pain. Using black and brown for scientific experiments. Using black and brown neighborhoods as social experiments. America became a super power because of 100s of years of (free labor) slavery. And was able to build the American system we have today. Come on Bro?! 60-65 years ago we couldn't go to the same schools as white people. The fact people in America believe that the American system isn't racist, with the history America has. Shows how messed up the educational system is.
@@ghettotrippin9498 They've literally separated Black history from world history & American history, give us a month in public schools(shortest month of the year BTW)... Like the thing's that happened in America to black and brown people aren't part of American history. And you still think the American system is not racist? Come on bro!
@@rusone2516 U make a compelling argument about education in America. I agree that more Black history should be taught. More good than bad. In my opinion & the opinion of many other parents. "The Devil is in the Details." It's not what they teach, it's how they teach it. Just as America History was designed to instill Pride, Patriotism , & a Capitalist ideology in its citizens. Culturally Responsive Teaching (CRT) is designed to break that Pride, Patriotism, & Capitalist ideology in our current system. There is a bigger agenda @ play here. Not only are they teaching history. Their agenda is to change American Culture by changing the mindset about Capitalism , Pride, Patriotism in America. Therefore Indoctrinating this generation & future generations. End game is SOCIALISM. They ain't slick & it will not work! "C'mon Man"
@@ghettotrippin9498 My statements/ argument, have nothing to do with the "political agendas" of the government. Fact is black and brown have been mistreated under every system America has. You say CRT is being used to push a socialist agenda. Have you thought to ask yourself, what agenda ( and has been for 100s of years) is being pushed to American children in our educational system? A system that teaches, slave owners are heroes to the descendants of those same slaves. A system that puts a verse from a racist's poem, as its national anthem. A system that sweeps under the rug the most important contributors (slaves, who were forced into 100s of years of free labor) to America as we know it. Separating their history from world history. So now you're worried about agendas... But the agenda to purposely teach lies and belittle my people history, should keep going? Sounds like an excuse to keep teaching the same BS they been teaching.
@@benjaminperez969 -- If you can't answer the following basic questions about Critical Race Theory correctly, you don't know enough about it to have a well informed intelligent opinion on the subject.
In one sentence, what is Critical Race Theory? What problem did Derrick Bell, Alan Freeman and other legal scholars wrestle with in the 1970s that eventually led to the founding of the Critical Race Theory movement? How did the Godfather of Critical Race Theory shatter the shining image of a celebrated Supreme Court civil rights ruling? What is the Interest-Convergence Dilemma? What was “The Alternative Course?” Name three of the founders of the Critical Race Theory movement? Who coined the term "Critical Race Theory" and what did it mean? Is Critical Race Theory a noun or a verb? Name one of the key tenets of Critical Race Theory? Is race biologically real, or is race a social construct? Is racism a normal feature of society? Is racism embedded within systems and institutions, like the legal system, that replicate racial inequality? Is racism confined to a few “bad apples?” Is racism codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy? Why does Critical Race Theory reject claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness?” Does the systemic nature of racism bear primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality? Are people’s everyday lives relevant to scholarship? Can legal scholarship be neutral and objective? What is the goal of the Critical Race Theory movement? Who are the faces at the bottom of the well? Who are the Space Traders? What are silent covenants? How did you do? Are you well informed, or do you need to learn more about the Critical Race Theory movement?
@@charliewatts6007 Those are darn good questions. I can answer 90% of 'em, actually. I've actually read a lot of CRT "classics," as well as more recent CRT-informed texts. (That said, I'm not sure what "Space Traders" is.) That said, the way you framed/"packed" your response strikes me as a kind of "No true Scotsmen" fallacy, or something kind of like it. (If you know which logical fallacy you're committing, or close to committing, by your framing/"packing," please let me know.) On another topic, I'm half way through Jonathan Rauch's new book The Constitution of Knowledge; as much sympathy that I have for CRT (especially real CRT), I'm pretty darn sure that the best ideas and arguments in Rauch's book are better, stronger than even the best of the best CRT. If you ever read Rauch's new book, I'd be keen to hear what you think. Thank you for your good questions. Best, B.P.
This show presents many people who are critical of CRT! Where are the people who will just come on and tell us EXACTLY what CRT TEACHES? What is the "theory" if there is one?
What CRT supporters say it is and what is being taught to young children (including whites) are not the same thing. Therein lays a VERY serious problem.
What these news reporters need to do is go to these schools and ask them what they think and what they experience. My daughters, who are white, go to a predominantly black school outside of Baltimore. I can tell you they've never experienced more racial prejudice, also known as racism, because of what you're teaching these children. It is okay to be racist against white kids, and anything a white kid does means they're allowed to be harassed, berated, and threatened with violence. That is what you're teaching these children, and that is how they're interpreting these theories. I now have to homeschool them because they could no longer take the abuse.
This professor is Jamaican, my question is can an Irish person speak for a German person in terms of whats best for their community ,i highly doubt it but within the Black American community the attempt to dilute our culture by those with a similar skin tone seems to be the thing however Black Americans are very aware of these deceptive titles like "Black Professor Says Critical Race Theory Murders The Soul of White Children", the controlled opposition needs to up their game.
@@LuisVelazquezLV3 Kamala is not FBA/AA. Those people are ignorant. FBA/AA is an ethnicity and heritage, which she does not belong to. Immigrants aren’t FBA or Descendants of American slaves.
@@King-fz8iw if u born in America u ain't a immigrant Harris was born in Oakland. She's an American. Her heritage is Indian and Jamaican. But she is American.
@@TheBigThinker944 I never said she wasn’t American. I said she wasn’t AA/FBA. AAs/FBAs don’t descend from immigrants, we descend from American slaves/indigenous. Her being Jamaican and Indian means she isn’t AA/FBA
@@marcuseldridge3783 WE ACT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE SOULS WHEN WE ARE ROBBING EACH OTHER AND BURNING SCHOOLS AND STORES DOWN !! AND THE WHITES HAVE TO COME BEHIND AND CLEAN UP THE MESS !! BLESS THE WHITES AND ASIANS FOR PUTTING UP WITH US AND NOT PUTTING US BACK IN CHAINS !!
@@marcuseldridge3783 THE BIBLE ASLO SAYS CERTAIN ISRAELITES WILL HAVE A HARD TIME IN LIFE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THEY DID AGAINST GOD !! LIVE WITH IT FOOL !!
If anyone was serious about resolving this issue, the debate should be around the specific material that is being taught. Dr. Hill gave a specific example - the exercise in White children being told to take for steps forward, from an equal position with Black students, while Black students are told to take four steps backward, from that same position. The question becomes for opponents of CRT, since they are the ones claiming harm, is how White children are harmed by this exercise. Certainly young children would not know how TO process/understand the purpose of this exercise, given their limited experience. Youth and adolescents, would still need adequate supporting information to do so. Then the argument becomes the accuracy or quality of the information. This should lead us to question the curriculum, in our public schools. I'm not sure what has been covered in social studies and history class, in recent decades. Even with what I remember being taught, significant adults of today act as if the education we know they've had, does nothing to influence their preconceived notions and attitudes, when it comes to race and some other issues as well. Older Americans know how this land was acquired, and the facts of the slave trade. Yet they cling to the mythology of American purity and nobility - while the true history contradicts this mythology. It seems the best that we can hope to achieve, is a more thorough and honest history being taught, without the social political commentary, being given favor, one way or the other. Let Afrocentric Indigenous-Americana history be taught, and just point out that these are varying perspectives and disagreements, that have a history in and of themselves. Social and Mass media, can then be used, to have the specific broader social debate, over these various perspectives of history and the current state of affairs. One important thing I think both sides need to consider, is the likelihood that a White child in the U.S. could develop at the least a subconscious feeling of superiority over Black children, after years of noticing the disparities that exist. The reserve would likely be true for a Black child. This could explain older generations of behavior and attitudes. These old even internalized attitudes are likely weaved into the culture of the country, and are at least subconsciously, passed on to newer generations.
What makes me laugh is the same ppl saying crt is racist are the same ones are actually racist against black ppl lol it's just a racist accusing another of being a racist
From your writing it's clear that you can understand that telling other people that they are inherently racist is probably the most racist thing one can do.
Why not? The left seems to deny anyone else has engaged in slavery or bad behavior historically. My bad. They admit it happened but are of the oppion it doesn't count because they weren't white.
This professor is off the chain. He declared that he taught CRT 20+ years ago and identified it as what it truly is, but still he goes on to paint those teachers as CRT educators, even though what they are teaching is not rooted in CRT. Racial discourse existed decades before CRT was conceived. Therefore, Mark's analysis of his article was spot on! He is a bad-faith actor who has chosen to provide fuel for anti-CRT, right-wing racists. Furthermore, slavery ended more than a century ago, we got Civil Rights over 5 decades now, and still, we have issues of racial injustice. Therefore, if some teachers are taking a new strategy of teaching racial empathy, why are these bad-faith actors so quick to condemn this approach without even checking to see if it will bear good fruits? To tell a white student that they are a part of a racist system cannot be as harmful as continuing a system that sees and treats a black child as inferior and less deserving of fairness.
You do know that Coleman Hughes is also from the islands. They don't know that we know that the only reason they were allowed over here is because of their view point that mirrors white supremacy. Even Nelson Mandela was not allowed to come here and was on the no fly list until he died.
@@jamberry8026 I know it is tempting to give into the FBA/ADOS ideology of black nativism to contextualize the problematic positions of some black immigrants. But if you do so, then you would then be compromising your integrity because how then do you explain the countless "native" black Americans who are also vehemently opposed to CRT, BLM, Kneeling, the reality of Systemic Racism, etc., and are pushing the right-wing talking points about these things? I did not know of Coleman Hughes until the reparation sitting, and since then, I have not wasted my time on him. However, Hughes was born in America, and one of his parents is from Puerto Rico. Therefore, he would be a U.S citizen even if he was born there. On the other hand, Dr Jason Hill was born in Jamaica, so he can be considered an immigrant. However, like Hughes, he did not identify as "black." He accepted that categorization for the sake of his existence in America. But unlike Hughes, Hill does not see CRT as intrinsically problematic - He used to teach it. But he has given over to the hysteria that CRT has somehow evolved into the teaching that white people are innately evil (which is a damn lie). Mandela visited the U.S in 1990 and 1994. However, the real revolutionary was Winnie Mandela. Nelson Mandela, in my opinion, is not the hero many make him out to be because he weakened the black movement in South Africa by forcing black people to apologize during the truth and reconciliation commission, he agreed to the disarmament of South Africa's nuclear weapon, and failed to give justice to black, poor, disenfranchised South Africans, and that is why he is so embraced by the West because they like when they can use you to impress upon black people that the right way is to be forgiving and peaceful even in the face of your injustice. That is why we saw Bill Clinton at John Lewis' funeral attacking Kwame Ture who died 22 years earlier, and he attacked Kwame because unlike John Lewis (the integrationist), John Lewis was a radical who consistently attacked White Power: Bear in mind, John Lewis was the native black American and Kwame was the immigrant. Therefore, we cannot use the FBA playbook to assess black traitors because these people can also be traced to the days of slavery in Georgia, Virginia, Alabama, etc.
There is no happy way to explain the genocide of the American Indian, the enslaved African, and the Holocaust. History is unfortunately brutal and unflinching.
Its even harder when to tell yourself and others how exceptional you are. And you're the greatest nation in the history of all other nations, then suddenly hit with all this grim bloody reality. Its no wonder they are flipping out.
Well,it seems he did not want to be left out of all the action & the debate about CRT & now we know who he is...so now he has his 15 min of fame as a scholar ...But why does CRT has to remain in the ivory tower of academe, anyway ? We are in a time in history that such concept (theory) should be applied to the every day realities ..to help shed light on a subject that has been hidden to long from the masses esp .of white citizens ...Yes, their might be some miss use of CRT by some, but you don't throw the baby out with the bath waters...
Nah, the lies about Manifest Destiny and American exceptionalism have been murdering their souls forever and they've been OK with that because a dead soul makes for a better imperialist
Are you crazy. CRT and what these teachers are doing to children is sickening. They are literally telling kids that ALL blacks kids are now and always will be oppressed by ALL white people. They tell white kids that they are racist simply because of their race. They teach kids who don’t care about race, that racial identity is what will dictate who will be success and who will struggle and be held back, and that the reason why certain kids (black kids) will be held back from success is that their white friends aren’t really friends they are the enemy and will be responsible for keeping them down. What’s wrong with not even mentioning race. Kids aren’t born racist or hateful, that is taught. the way you get rid of racism is stop talking about race. CRT is dangerous. And Marc Lamont Hill is biggest clown on tv. The reason he said CRT kills the souls of white kids is because it does. To me it does because it tells white kids they are All racist, hateful, ignorant, oppressors. And that the only reason white people succeed is due to privilege not merit. That is dangerous because it will get in some kids minds that they don’t have to try they don’t have to work hard they are white and they will succeed regardless. That’s dangerous.
Why teach CRT when many of our children can't do the basics at their appropriate grade level? There's demand for ethnic studies...but where's the demand for life skills classes that teach you how to invest in yourself...the stock market, real estate, etc.?
As a Black PhD "professor" in the US, he's trained to protect white/European philosophy (Kant, Aristotle, Marx, Montague, etc) and the children of that lineage. IMO he's a DELIBERATE deflector using a nice tone to do serious harm. You can't discuss Derrick Bell's CRT systemic analysis of the DELIBERATE impact of white supremist POLICIES across our local, state and federal legal, political and economic systems using qualitative analysis alone. Even if he can prove CRT education/training of the nation's majority white teacher corps is the reason American K12 education is declining the past 30 years (ludicrous), as an educated person he should also provide the quantitative economic data on 155 years post enslavement, and inequities in wealth lineage that CRT policies reveal. Mark did well to challenge his data and click bait opportunism as someone who is contributing to the war against Black children's mental health and success. Wonder if he thinks his kind of scholarship ever freed any slaves.
@@listener84 everything a person does for money isn't positive. Is being a hit man positive? Personally I don't support CRT because I think it's milquetoast and not radical enough. This man knows what critical race theory is, the rightwing is using it to fire up its racist base. The man is throwing gas on their flame. Some things you don't do no matter how much money you get paid.
@@WilliamSmith-mz9qz you’re the one who put a context on him getting paid, not me. I pointed out that calling him out for getting paid is useless, which it is. Both on the screen are getting paid, there’s no value in pointing out one of them getting paid.
My mother went to school in South Carolina back in the day. I remember telling her some American Renaissance talking points about Africa since I found them so ridiculous. They ended up being basically what she was led to believe in school. It's shit like that that needs more attention than the bs CRT backlash.
He keeps saying that these are "out-layer examples" to the scholar who put hundreds of hours of research into several specific examples and was convinced it was important enough to write a book about. So obviously it isn't as rare or "out-lying" as the interviewer would have us to believe. His arrogance is blinding him from wisdom.
First off from his dialect I can tell he is not from this country. So that is already a knock because he does not see things from the lens of black folks from this country , so we can stop the conversation there.
Hey so just so you understand, being from a group doesn't make you a better candidate to research and speak on it because you're biased. Cultures don't self research because they have the issue of not understanding when something is unusual, that's why outsiders usually do research on them. Try knowing literally any fieldwork theory before trying to dismiss the argument of a scholar.
@@jaxmiller724 so let me understand your logic. Just because I’m from a certain group I can not speak on such group, but someone else who is not can speak on it because they have done the research? Ok, got it! Smh
Absolutely idiotic; first CRT is not taught to children, second CRT does not blame or concern itself with individual behaviors - its focus is racist institutions not racist individuals. Any professor that does not know that, needs to STHU!
My takeaway is that this professor, unlike most of the CRT opponents that have appeared on this program, knows what CRT actually is, but, that his protestations against it seem to uncover an agenda. Like, who is paying him to espouse these views?
Note the lack of sincerity in his convictions. The back-peddling of his alarmist headlines, the discreditation of the Black intelligentsia. Can publishers posses similar agendas for the sake of book sales or does Depaul University’s endowment pose incentives for provocative academics? I believe it’s the latter.
@@Pedaissance mmmmmm🤔 how is China "supporting " CRT? So looking into how Racism influences the Criminal Justice System is a bad thing? So Equality is "Communistic "?
@@victorwilliams1304 this is what believing in the MSM makes you believe. They openly admitted they are trained Marxists. They gave none of their money to black causes. All their money goes to the Democrats and to enrich the BLM leaders so they can buy rich homes in white neighborhoods in Cali (Patrisse Cullors.) Even some of the posterchildren for BLM like Tamir Rice's family says BLM gave them nothing and that they're nothing more than a grift.... 'black lives" is just a front.. they're actual communists. The sister of Cullors just recently bought a mansion formerly owned by Canadian communists. They push a lie (like black people being disproportionately murdered by police) and people like you eat it up..
Lies, lies, lies it's getting hard to think of a alibi. He does not repeat does not believe what he wrote, he's here for fair skin fellows. If he did he would have done it right and not go with the conservative definition.
CRT isn't even a solution. The solution is liberalism and gradual progress that has been happening over 150 years. Color indifference is real and achievable. If you don't believe it's possible, tell me why people don't discriminate based on other people's hair color? They notice it, but it doesn't bring up any ill will - how is that possible?
FYI : Blue eyes, Brown eyes..... truth is painful, just as life is, but when the pain of truth is revealed at a young age it allows for us to grow freely, and to make informed decisions. It does not break us, he'll Black children have been living with the realities of the negative effects of the construct of whiteness since the 1600's, hell, pain shared is pain lessened and awareness is growth.
He sounds nervous?? He just sounded soft-spoken. A raging bull is typically not a careful thinker. Besides, haven’t you ever noticed how much Hill stutters when he gets excited or pushed back on? I never fault him for that. It’s just his way of speaking.
Booom!! People need to open their dam eyes. His ancestors didn’t go through American slavery, so he will say anything against ADOS for a check. His POV does not matter.
@@Rook20 you sound exactly like tucker Carlson. Same ethnonationalism and misplaced bigotry with a different color. I’m not a fan of the guest either he seems like an academic who’s trolling for attention to sell books
Need more timeeee!!! These are great conversations and this needs to be hashed out so people can have a full understanding of what CRT is about. Give Marc a full hour show to discuss these issues pleaseeee!!
This can't be hashed out with two black men talking about it. It would be good if Marc and Biden could have this conversation...but not to understand CRT but to expose how racist Biden really is.
@@knownbutunknown Biden is an idiot. Being distracted by your racist ideology and hatred for White successful people will continue to divide Americans so the Chinese can easily take over in the next 25 years.
@@sovereigncitizen3633 actually, you are a racist and a Xenophob as evidenced by your statement on the Chinese. You post racial people try to hide your racism and white supremacy and blame others for it. You are part of the problem. I actually believe you are devoid of a soul.
@@knownbutunknown Well that went no where didn’t it? Lol ppl are too damn sensitive. I think we should all get along and not be judged by the color of our skin. As Americans we must come together or we WILL be destroyed. I have nothing against Chinese ppl. The Chinese Communist Party is the enemy. The CCP wants to destroy this country, and they love it when we are divided. It will make it easier for them to conquer us.
Jason Hill was born and grew up in Jamaica. He describes himself as "mixed race" in Caribbean terms, but "perceived as being black in America." He immigrated to the U.S. in 1985 when he was 20 years old, and eventually became a U.S. citizen. Hill has written about his journey to the United States, most notably in his last book, We Have Overcome: An Immigrant's Letter to the American People. Hill, a gay man, has credited Ayn Rand's work with helping him come to terms with his homosexuality, especially as someone who grew up in Jamaica, a country he describes as "the most homophobic culture in the world. ~wiki
@@3fsportstalklive833 Michael is trying to make whatever he possibly can relevant to the conversation. The reality no longer matches the demands, so we have to delve further and further back or even superimpose a fictitious reality to remain relevant.
As a Jamaican-American, I am disgusted by Caribbean immigrants who will come, make their money in America and gain from sweat of black Americans, only to deny validity of the black American struggle.
I work at a school. It's a strange world where the teaching of specialized history is getting more money, press and dialogue than the basics in reading, writing and arithmetic. My father received the so-called Three Rs in a poor, one-room school house in the the Great Depression. With determination, hard work and goals, he rose beyond anyone's expectations to graduate with a master's degree in English. He later became a professor of English literature at a Black college. The Three Rs should be the core of every school curriculum around which other disciplines are built. Many schools are becoming sidetracked by their main mission, which is graduating well-rounded students that can support themselves and their future families.
Your father sounds a lot like other great men - George Washington Carver, Henry Ford, Abraham Lincoln, etc. who didn't need abstract theories or preferential treatment to advance the human condition. What the CRT crew is missing is that fields like math and language are TOOLS for communicating, creating and elevating mankind. Those 3 R's are objectively useful, and objectively distinct. If you want an efficient car engine, you need math, metallurgy, etc., not social justice. The overriding theory that "white people are oppressors" misses the fact that "white people" in the distant past rarely came in contact with non-white people, yet managed to invent everything from plant breeding to space travel, thanks in large part to learning and developing the fundamentals of education. History is full of injustice. We should be working on preventing more of it by elevating the minds of young kids rather than turning them against each other.
Reading, writing and arithmetic are what's being taught in our schools. Any discussion of race is minimal. The right has turned critical race theory into their new Boogeyman to frighten white people into voting for them.
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 Nothing is happening to them. Those experiences don't exist outside of their minds. CRT has become a boogeyman for right wing nut cases.
@I McCormick In your long and meandering response to my year-old post, you seemed to have missed my whole point. I vaguely addressed giving precedence to CRT (a higher education and legal framework) in elementary schools over the basics and common core teaching of a State. From there, I briefly related my father's difficult road to intellectual enlightenment, where he earned three degrees in English and English literature and ultimate success. I hope you know that courses in American and world history are a requirement of advanced degrees or at least they used to be when my father attended three different colleges throughout the 50s. I did not specifically address history in my post, but I did simply say that: "The Three Rs should be the core of every school curriculum around which other disciplines are built." Other disciplines can be history, science, art, music, etc., etc. At almost 60 years old, I've known so many people who were good in sports, art and other things in grade school that allowed them to slide through to a diploma, only to find that they were ill-prepared for college or a good job because they were deficient in math or communication skills. Surprisingly, I still see this happening in the personal computer age, when children have so many advantages that my father did not have in a small Kansas town. 😉
I taught school in the south and every year during black history, Although it was not CRT, white parents was so upset that their kids were being taught about Langston Hughes, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Fredrick Douglass, George Washington Carver ect...
Everything boils down to reparations ‼️ , I mean if someone’s 20’ 30’ + isn’t learned enough to not to be racist the problem isn’t us it’s them 🤷🏿♂️ just give us our dam money and we’ll build our own schools, businesses, hospitals to stay away from those “specific people” that don’t like us. I’m finally ok with that. Some people feel threatened if their kids learn true American history smh
There are entire major cities with monumental budgets controlled either entirely or nearly entirely by black voters and politicians. If you have the solution to make things work why not go to Baltimore, for instance, and make it happen?
@@jayarah5000 you guys burned it down... billions of dollars worth of damage to black communities perpetuated by blm protestors, there is no accountability in the black community
critical race theory isnt true American history, its revisionism to push a marxist agenda.... billions of dollars worth of blm donations lining democrat politician pockets. Majority of urban areas have black city councils, black police chiefs, black mayors... the problem isnt racism
I agree with the guest, crt is not history of slavery, it is a bunch of people presenting their opinions about race, everyone is for teaching the history of slavery, and the unique suffering of blacks in this country. The problem with crt is it is not about history or about not making mistakes of history, it is about unhinged teachers making children feel bad about their color, being white. Children today are not at fault for sins of the past. Slavery has been a world problem, since the beginning of time, and we need to teach that is an evil as well as other forms of oppression, or subjugation. But, Marc saying people don’t want to talk about race, slavery, and examples of subjugation is flat out wrong, that is what the media says. I am 54 years old, we learned about evils of slavery and subjugation in school throughout elementary, junior high, and high school, and we all, meaning everyone I grew up with had sincere desire to change things and do away with any racist behavior, Marc refuses to see the problem with crt being used as reverse racism by unhinged individuals. That is the issue. We always need to be on alert that we are treating all people the way we would want to be treated. CRT is being used as a means to harm, and pit races against each other. I want my children to live in harmony with others, no matter race. But, many today want to keep divides. When will it end.
The basic fact that most biologists and anthropologists do not consider race to be a valid concept in grouping humans should be a starting point for any conversation surrounding race.
But he doesn’t want to, because then he would not be able to pick and choose what he needs for his argument, and would have to argue the whole ugly thing…
If we could all trace our ancestry back, we all might not like what we see. After all, racism and slavery did not begin in the Americas or in Europe. Unfortunately with human beings, these things are timeless.
...were not just talking about "slavery" in the US. Were talking about the history of Racism in our Country and how Racism has influenced and has infiltrated almost every level of our society since the beginning of this Nation. Seriously...as a Citizens of this Country all of us and even you have to accept and acknowledge all of our Country's History even the Racist and Disgusting past that is US History. NO MATTER WHAT...and because of this Country's Racist past to this DAY it still effects POC and their everyday lives.
Glenn white washing facts with something white people made up is the main reason we will remain pushing the envelope... the truth will be told to every American...
Blackwashing facts isn't helpful either. The 1619 Project does just that. Anyone who says that the original sin was slavery does just that. If the erasure of black history by white people is racist, than the erasure of indigenous history by black people and white people is also racist. And both black people and white people are guilty of doing that a lot.
...so what about the souls of Black children?? Does he have an article for us. I'm so confused🤔🤔 Some of our children need healing and all of our children need positive promotion. I agree that activist don't need to teach kids. They usually have an agenda. I knew a teacher who took it to far. Luckly he taught in an all Black/Latino school. This guy is smart but off his rocker with this so-called theory.
I think he had an off day here. I listened to other interviews where he's far more articulate. Part of the problem is his article got taken out of the academic discussion circles it was written for. He didn't coin the phrase "spirit" murder. It's a response to other articles which had used the same or very similar phrase to discuss the negative impact teachers can have on black and minority children. He was drawing a parallel to build on a concept. He has also written other articles to talk about the impact on black children. That said I took the trouble to read the article and was not overly impressed with it, but the language made more sense once put in context of other articles.
Has this professor ever considered what's been done to the souls of his own people?
No
So true!!! Good point!!!
Seems to me he's baiting for both sides I can almost guarantee you he has a white parent
@@stevies6251 LOL!!! Or a white companion
@@stevies6251 .....or spouse; maybe both..
Racism will never go away if we pretend it never existed. I think teaching children the truth about racism throughout history would contribute to an awareness of how wrong it was and still is, which can only be a good thing.
Racism will never go away if you never stop talking about it.
letting racism go away doesn't mean it did not happen
it just means it won't happen to you
If i said blacks are the dealer and slaver in slavery for 2000 years, that would NOT be a theory critical of the african race, it would be a fact
blaming their descendants and holding them responsible would be racism and CRT
slavery was so ingrained in african culture, africa has no historic jails and all blacks born today are descendant of slave dealer and slavers
germany used CRT in the 1930's, the democrat's klan used CRT in the 1800's
@@palofthepaw I think that you have that backwards. If you don´t talk about Race in this country IT WILL NEVER GO AWAY. You have to understand Racism has been around this country and the world since it´s inception. IT WILL NEVER, NEVER GO AWAY? Go away? Let´s get this straight. You think ignorance will ever go away? No of course not, due to it being part of human emotion. Do you think Prejudices will go away? No it is part of the human trait. Racism is a INVENTED emotion that is taught and passed down from generation to genertion due to fragil egos, thinking that some Race is superior to another due to INDOCTRINATION of that said RACE of people to practice it and have it not only known verbably from group to group but having it ENGRAINED into the MINDS of those people until it is so embedded there that they CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT IT. They MUST have it and practice it. Without it THEIR HOUSE OF CARDS WILL COME CRASHING DOWN. Some may change, but the vast majority of them WILL NEVER CHANGE. They would rather DIE than change the way they have always been taught that they are better, wiser, prettier, invented all things that are usable to make life easier, and that all that they have is due to HARD WORK and they are ENTITLED TO IT ALL . Just them. No one else.
The truth would be nice, but you aren't advocating for truth
I agree. The way it is now little white children are taught that they are better people just on their skin color alone. You don't even have to say it. Just teach that same old drag they've been teaching for over a couple of centuries now.
This professor should just admit that he used inflammatory language as a means to promote shock and outrage to increase sales and gain notoriety.
He literally didnt realize what he got himself into when he published his Book, because it is absolutely clear that he is struggling and cant seem to confidently defend his position or what he's claiming...even in this short Interview.
In the end it’s still just about marketing and capitalism.
@@websterbrandcoaching9724 Right! White folks are going to put king james down and take his book as their new bible!😂
Exactly. He sure isn't fired up. Civil disagreements...snooze fest
He literally admitted that in the interview lol. Did you watch it?
TRUE history is NOT a theory!
You don't seem to know what a scientific theory is.
@@michaeldelyjah5696 History is NOT a theory!
@@jayregal6478 You're tricking yourself by playing with words. History is made up of events. All events (why they happened, etc.) can be, and are theorized.
@@michaeldelyjah5696 TRUE! But lets look at it this way. Acknowledging that an event happened and the brutality of the event , and how the event affected the the lives of certain people is a known fact and not subject to interpretation. Two plus two is four. No need to theorize.
REAL TRUTH AND REAL HISTORY IS WINNING. THEORIES ARE FOR MORONS WHO LOVE LIES.
Have schools not taught enough lies? Let the truth be taught.
4 of my bosses have been black surgeons.
That's what I'm talking about! Best question on here that I heard so far.
As LONG AS THE MURDERS OF BLACK PPLS SOULS ARE STILL OCCURRING IT'S FINE FOR WHITES APPARENTLY..
They'll never teach the truth until they acknowledge the truth
@@WLNS4Life WHO IS THEY? LOL
This conversation needs to be longer. The CRT thing is being exploited to be something that it isn't.
CRT (an offshoot of Critical Theory) is Marxism and should be exposed as such.
@chris lauricella as if the racism it is exposing wasn't racist to begin with. The problem is the initial racism not speaking about how that racism is and was implemented within society through institutions.
@chris lauricella is it implying that? So systematic racism has never existed in America?
@chris lauricella so you're not sure if it was in a mild form or not?
@chris lauricella so what extent was it?
These types of dialogues deserve more than a 20min segment. Perhaps for challenging topics BNC can create an opportunity for extended dialogue.
@Monday night We're not the ones worried about CRT. The white nationalists are the ones twisting it to create chaos and confusion. Ignorance is never the way. Now that it's in the collective consciousness it would behoove us to know something about it
@Monday night Whoa whoa whoa watchyaself son!!! It ain't gon be what you want it to be. Pump ya breaks. The whole CRT talking points were made a thing by white people who are fighting tooth and nail to hold on to what little bit of power they have left b4 Amerikkka crumbles. I don't care about democrat or republican, it's all the same to me. You're right, they build factories to continue to enslave other human beings. And to capitalize off the pockets of fools who don't see it for the reality it is. You don't have to teach homosexuality it is and an always has been a part of the human experience like it or not. You need to chill b4 you blow a gasket. Go in peace not in pieces
Literally the first discussion opposing CRT I want to hear more than 20 minutes.
@Monday night Cleary you're the ignorant one!! U insist on name calling rather than engaging in a productive conversation. Find somebody else's time to waste with your non productive back and forth bullshit
@Monday night Look Amazon, WalMart, Levi Strauss( who happens to have a factory in Haiti) let's see how much they pay their employees or invest in the communities they profit from. You really are ignorant. At first I thought you just felt like debating but I now see clearly. Being ignorant is not the problem it's remaining ignorant that makes you the fool. I'm done sir
Goddamn! Can all the black people that refuse to stick up for black people get on a spaceship and leave earth??! Surely, we can criticize ourselves, but some people are frigging ridiculous!
Facts family
@@dobblewis8111 yes, ma'am/ sir
He/him
How is disagreeing with CRT=refusing to stick up for black people?
@@jaredquick644 admitting and speaking about how racism and white supremacy specifically against and centered around black people is bred into this country is not taking up. It's frigging weird to see supposed black people say it.
I just want to know why is everyone so hell bent on protecting white children. Who protected our children when they were not even allowed to go to school. This is exhausting!
Every child needs to be protected. And CRT, and its equity tentacles, is making ALL children less safe. In my school district, there is no longer any suspension because of accusations of racism.
They will not suspend any children under any circumstances - especially if they’re brown/black. Even if that child has done something inexcusable. For example, a black boy in my daughter’s high school threw a chair at a teacher. He was not suspended, and the teacher refused to call the police because she didn’t want to be seen as “racist.” They had a “mediation” with the boy, and put him back in class… Three days later, that boy punched another boy of color in the face, and ended up pushing a black girl down the stairs. She broke her clavicle and arm. The father of the girl finally called the police.
None of that should ever have happened. But CRT says: 1. The violence by people of color is the result of racism by white people. 2. Suspensions for violent behaviors is evidence of racism. 3. That boy had no ability to make decisions for himself because of structural racism…
As a brown/black man myself, where is personal responsibility? Do these people not think I’m capable of self-modulation just because I’m brown?
CRT, progressivism, wokism, etc., has been destroying schools for decades. I’m happy people are finally starting to realize how truly dangerous and destructive it is.
He said he wrote an earlier piece on how it affects black children.
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You are the embodiment of emotional insecurity.
@@TheBellePerspectiveTV You're the embodiment of emotional insecurity
There is something seriously wrong when black people, or "mixed race" as this interviewee prefers, start sympathizing with and advocating for the perpetrators of racism while condemning the victims of racism. Btw, they hate using that term "victim," because if there is no victim, there's no crime, right?
Fr!! .like why are they defending a group of people who had historically oppress brown people thoroughout the world
@@kingc1198 he was talking of children who have oppressed nobody
@@kingc1198 you know which group of people historically oppressed others? almost every other group of people in the world. africans still do it to africans in 2021. asians do it to asians, etc. LOL you know what the Aztecs did to their slaves?
@@BLaCkKsHeEp ok and ? That like saying " well other guys rape so its ok for me to rape too".that basically how you sound about slavery and beside there were more events that happened to blacks after slavery
@@kingc1198 lol if that's the case then why continue doing it to their own people in this day and age if the sole oppressors are white folks?
and sure, there were more events. there was a genocide in africa for one. you heard what the chinese did to their own people during Mao's reign?
you know how many civilians Japan killed during ww2 in Asia?
oppression/slavery/genocide is not exclusive to black people nor is it exclusively committed by white people.
The professor is going to sell a tremendous amount of books. The value of “shock and awe” is a very lucrative angles, this new phenomenon, Black immorality. How to peddle, radical incendiary, unethical rhetoric for profit. Love his nefarious smirk, he of all people, knows he’s selling nonsense
TRUTH HURTS !!
He has obviously taken the position of being one of the "Black" folks who make it his business to make "White" folks feel "comfortable"about the atrocities committed and the ones that continue.
The real problem is that the black community by and large continues to vote and support the Democratic party. The Democratic party leadership has built anti-black institutions beginning with the war on poverty all the way through the war on terrorism that are built to surveil and oppress poor, black and brown communities. The black community has no one to blame but themselves for their own oppression because they continue to support their oppressors. Both Democrats and Republicans continue to fund these institutions they've built over the last 60 years like militarized police, no knock warrants, mandatory minimums, different sentencing for different drugs based on what a community prefers like crack rock versus cocaine powder, and it goes on and on allowing things like redlining in the banking institutions only now it's by a different algorithm or data set. You need to wake up and vote libertarian 💯. You need to fundamentally change who you're voting for and why. The Democratic and Republican parties are your oppressors.
It’s funny that he doesn’t go this hard for the millions of Black children’s souls who have been and are being murdered in this white supremacist world for centuries 🙄. These white kids will be fine and hopefully better if they learn about this.
None of thus CRT stuff means anything. Children will continue sitting with their own race in the school cafeteria and adults will continue assembling with their own race in prison.
Exactly Advent! These white kids will be fine, and even if they aren't that's not a problem. Maybe if white children start exhibiting psychological trauma, the world will finally take us seriously!
Ryte let's once again leave ppl of color at the bottom and worry abt the greater topic...everyone else's feelings. FOH
He's a jamaican American. Another non-FBA interjecting themselves in FBA business.
Seems like you live in the very small bubble
Maybe it's just a cosmic order after untold millions of Black childrens' souls and bodies been destroyed! The sins of the fathers be visited on generations after....
@@hendricktheodule9793 Right, because taking out your revenge on black and white children is something that should be promoted.
@@artgurrl u sound uneducated
@@hendricktheodule9793 eh we'll all die anyway like odc if youre one of the few to die peacefully youll be decomposed and fed in by the microbes lol god as far as i know doesnt exist nor is he relevant.
@@hendricktheodule9793 I followed the conversation perfectly but added a different take on it. Sorry you are so narrow in your views as to what is being spiritual and what is Christian. Too bad.
@@romey70able Coming from an answer like what you gave? LMAO.
The dr. says CRT is being misrepresented so he writes a book misrepresenting CRT, cmon
I think he's saying it's mutated over the years. Yes, there are people lumping too much under the heading of CRT. But CRT theories and philosophies and terminology has fueled a lot of these diversity trainings. And some of the serious academic CRT writings have very problematic elements, even though the main aim of CRT to critically review laws and systems and their racial effects is laudable and worthwhile.
@@minimumwagesink5956 "CRT writings have very problematic elements."
What might those elements be?
Thanks.
@@charliewatts6007 That's a long essay that would be hard to do justice to in a short comment. My best short summary is that it uses a lot of terminology that made sense coming out of the 1960s when you had laws blatantly defining, dividing, and oppressing people on the basis of being black or white. But the U.S. has become more diverse and complex with it's racial definitions and power dynamics, even genetically with a growing racially mixed population, and a lot of CRT thinking and terminology seems to be clinging to the 60s. And we have new waves of black immigrants whose ancestors didn't go through slavery, Jim Crow, etc. which makes a profound difference in their U.S. experience.
In sociology studies, sometimes you need to divide people into broad groups to chart broad trends, but that always runs the risk of trying to define the whole group by the trend. CRT for all it's academic niche, often lacks a lot of subtlety and nuance. It hyper focuses on certain aspects of racism while ignoring others. And some of that is necessary if it's restraining itself to legal theory, but if you want to aim to dismantle racism at all levels, you need those more nuanced discussions. Particularly if you apply it to teaching practices, psychological impact needs to be considered.
Even here, you have a body of writings from different authors who are batting around ideas, so some of the ideas are better than others. I listened to another interview with Hill where he explains himself better than he does here. And I'm not 100% in agreement with his stance either. I just think CRT is complicated, and we need to be willing to criticize where it falls short, even if we embrace the general aim. It had a lot of academic controversies while it was still a niche ideology most people hadn't heard of.
@@minimumwagesink5956 -- Before we enter into a discussion of Critical Race Theory, it might be a good idea to see if we can come to an agreement on what exactly we're going to talk about.
In one sentence, I use to term "Critical Race Theory" to signify the Critical Race Theory movement -- a collection of what I refer to as Critical Race Theory scholars and theorists who share an interest in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power.
What do you have in mind when you use the term?
Thanks.
@@minimumwagesink5956 -- I use the term "Critical Race Theory" to mean the Critical Race Theory movement -- a collection of activists and scholars interested in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power.
Is that what you are referring to?
Thanks.
After doing a background check of his origin, where he’s from, I’m not surprised of his position. It’s almost safe to assert and expect a non-Foundational Black man to take this position.
Plant!!!!!! When a so called black man cannot find fault in the false history of america they are trying destroy
any attempt to tell the truth. they feel they must protect whites by any means necessary. Would there even be any discussion if no one challenged the founding fathers.
Do you people even try anymore with your ad hominems?
"Oh he's not ADOS so of course he won't agree with us."
I wonder what your reaction is to ADOS who disagree with you on the subject. "Oh they're not really black but have been indoctrinated by white supremacy blah blah blah"
@@leonardu6094 the term, “you people is insulting and racist!” Clown!!!! I speak from experience attending college with foreign students who might resemble me in complexion, however, they WERE conditioned “ supporting the white agenda” while degrading what the descendants of slaves on the continent of America have experienced. Same I corporate America.
@@leonardu6094 The truth is obvious 🤡!!!
Whoa there guy... Jamaicans/Caribbeans/etc are foundational to the Black experience and I dare add our contributions are essential so don't go creating hierarchies of Blackness and stating generalities. That said, while he states his point in inflammatory way, he's not wrong. CRT aims to elucidate the truth of systemic racism and if some people who cling to their ideology of whiteness get crushed, if their soul of "whiteness" (eg. the sense of privilege and whiteness as default, the bubble of white identity lies, the spurious belief that the past actions of amerikkka have no effect on the present) if all that is murdered THEN LET IT BE MURDERED. Let them become empathetic, let them gain humanity, let them see how the falsehoods of whiteness and the shackles of white supremacy not only lessen and weaken human potential (becuase white/western supremacy is the core of current economic hegemony)... but whiteness also makes that child a fool and a liability to the human race. Why are we still dealing with racism in America? Because white people are still raising their children to be racists! Fortunately, education is powerful tool for breaking the chain of inherited racism.
The fact that this man just calmly and passively ignore the questions about his derogatory terms that he used shows how dangerous his mindset is, but he’s supposedly is an educator 🤦🏾♂️
Coleman Hughes as well
I've always been amazed that they think we should protect their children from the truth that our children live. Let the truth speak for itself. They're afraid their children will see the the truth of what was done and is being done and make the needed changes. They fear CRT will be the end of ws.
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Hogwash.
Are you as equally amazed that educators are not teaching how black males, making up for less than 7% of the population, are responsible for more than 50% of homicides? Shouldn't we avoid anything that implies an entire race as mostly responsible for any social ills of American society? Isn't it better to teach kids how to think, as opposed to what to think. (One is education, the other is indoctrination). As for "What was done," it was not done by whites alone and there is not a single person that you nor I know, who was part of it. What should amaze you is that seniors are graduating high school with a 6th grade reading level. As for what is being done, please point out these "white supremes."
U and everyone that thinks like u is why it should be stopped , y'all don't care about white people u think ur some how better bc ur black lol it's ridiculous and u think that white people think they are better but we don't white people teach their kids that race DNT matter y'all teach ur kids to hate white people bc of something that happened 100 yrs ago
until 'they' and their children see the truth, there will be no reconciliation and no peace. and all of us including them will suffer!
How much are they paying this guy? Let’s not offend white children? SMH.
Yeah.. tell white children they’re born racist instead and can never redeem themselves
Exactly ✊🏾
@@bulleitupyourazz8168 that's not what they are told
@Dutch Meyer no they aren't you can't go to one school and prove that
@Dutch Meyer your ancestors are the ones who brought this onto you..thats who you should be upset with
He got paid to say the wild things.
Get that money hunny!
The issue I have personally with the CRT debate is. 1.) CRT is a college course and it’s not being taught in elementary and high school classes. 2.) People are using CRT as a scare tactic to remove certain books from their classrooms’ curriculum. We can all agree that Dr. King was a great man but now under the guise of it being CRT Speech most of his speeches post I Have A Dream are not being taught in classrooms. Malcolm X is to diverse and so many other influential black people are not being taught in classrooms. Even the guest is a college professor not a high school or elementary school teacher. So that should tell you that an agenda is being pushed. The uncomfortable parts of American history which include black people and the mistreatment at the hands of this country that we have received they now want to leave on the cutting room floor and reshape the narrative of this country’s history. That is what truly needs to be discussed not CRT.
We gotta stop letting these guys flow from their scholastic language into their religious language so easily. As soon as he says "infallibility", I'm asking, "who claimed CRT (THEORY) was infallible?"
Also, he doesn't get to call other teachers "radical" when the admittedly "incendiary" title of his article is abt murdering souls. Can't give them that premise.
First of all the term is an attack and we are letting them use that term 💡by this term they can control the outcome 💡
They want to keep that 'narrative so they DONT have to speak about race in America. Whenever the subject of race is brought up, they find an 'excuse' to dodge it with their dogmas.💯
boom! best take.
Very easy, the proponents of CRT claim it is infallible by proxy. Just call every attempt to criticize it racially motivated or biased or bad faith and then say that there are good faith criticisms but these aren't it. Then they do t give an example criticism, it has no areas that they point to and say that it could be weak or wrong. Any theory whether scientific or otherwise must have a way of being disproven, even gravity can technically be disproven its just extremely unlikely, CRT can't be disproven and it's literally baked into the CRT argument. If your theory can't be disproven it isn't theory, it's religion.
@@jaxmiller724 this is BS. You didn't answer the question. WHO? That would involve names. You can say "they" all you want and say that all of "them" refuse to hear your critiques but when you are given a chance to argue and give your sources you spend all your time complaining about the refs.
The purpose of Critical Race Theory is to have endless debates like this. Institutional Racism is not a “Theory” to be debated! The constant debate keeps the focus off of real solutions that dismantle the Racist Systems. Our focus should be on a Black Political Agenda. 1.Reparations for FBA 2. Protected Class Status for Black Americans. 3. Police Accountability and Punishment. 4. Economic Martial Plan to close the Wealth Gap. 5. Affordable Home and Land Ownership for Blacks. 6. Anti Black Hate Crime Bill. 7. Tax Exemption for Black Descendants of American Slavery, etc.
Exactly....an we are (FBA) Foundational Black Americans....our ancestors built the foundation of this country through their back breaking work 7days a week 12-16hour days....along with their many inventions (many of them stolen by the way) which enabled all of us black an white to enjoy a better standard of living
Although he sort of acknowledges what “the right” is doing I still find it very disturbing. All I have to ask is, what about our souls ? Why do we as black students feelings and life experiences have to be suppressed in order for white kids to feel comfortable? Our souls are damaged everyday we wake up. We have to worry about getting killed by the police and white people because of our skin, we have to worry about being s*x trafficked or trafficked for our organs, and when we become adults we’ll constantly face being locked out of opportunities systemically and wealth. White people, even poor whites don’t have to go through that. But ofc let’s “protect their fragile souls” 🙄🙄.
Preach 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
You don’t get it
What does making black children feel safer and less burdened by experiences of prejudice or the fear of such experience- what does that have to do with instilling white guilt in white children, whether explicitly or implicitly?
There needs to be a move in our culture towards compassion for ALL conscious creatures: white and black children are both conscious creatures, and we must care about them equally. It isn't enough to say "Oh white kids have more money, they don't suffer as much or their suffering doesn't matter as much, so we don't need to be careful in how we treat them": that is ethical laziness. For example (in general), white kids are much more likely to suffer from social isolation, various mental disorders, and a lack of healthy physicality, than are black kids whose culture provides much of that for them.
The point is this though, there is no way for black people to rise if respect is not given to non-black people too. I can guarantee you that this "anti-white" trend, as much as it does exist, makes white people more defensive and unsympathetic to black troubles, not less. And where it *seems* to work (like in wealthy white liberals) it is out of FEAR of being called a racist and ostracized by their peers (i.e. other wealthy white people).
@@julianmarx2002 bro stfu. Nobody is anti white. Personally, I’m not going to sugar coat history or what white people have done to us. It’s not about making white children feel guilty, it’s about them knowing their history so they’re aware of what’s going on around them. I’m a black dark skinned teenager. You can’t deny that this country was built for white people, not anyone else. So because im interested and invested in what’s best for my race it makes me anti white ? Boy bye ✌🏿. The only people I care about is the African diaspora and indigenous peoples because other “minorities” have been anti-black and colorists since they had civilizations . miss me with that bs✌🏿. This system wasn’t built and designed for us so it’ll never work for us. good bye, I don’t sympathize with colonizers ✌🏿.
The idea that your soul is damaged everyday you wake up...Listen, ask yourself...who is with you when you wake up? Your sorrow is in your own mind.
This dude seems to be all over the place. He’s been paid off.
Don’t be confused black brother this man speaks the truth! CRT is waste of our black children’s time, when they can barely read, write and do math! CRT is an excuse as to why they can’t compete. Even those illegal immigrants are now out performing black children. If this CRT foolishness continues these kids will be asking illegal immigrants for jobs!
@@horaceward6737 , Crt only reveals the truth about american history regarding systemic racism. It points out why and seeks solutions. Your ideals sounds insidious and deceptive.
Sure seems like it
This guy is a perfect example of why a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Which guy?
@@marwar819 As a Jamaican, I believe that Hill represents the inability of the half-caste/red Jamaican middle class to see itself in terms of the Balck American cultural and social milieu.
@@anthonybailey8317 Well, why don't you explain it to us then? It couldn't be much different than any half caste people all over the world. Many of y'all are trying to look half caste by using those bleaching products that are unhealthy and are going to kill you.🙄🤔
@@marwar819 • that's right, display your ignorance.
@@anthonybailey8317he don't know anything about black people in Satanstolen country his people jumped off the boat and went to Jamaica
One big problem with this discussion is a refusal for the majority community to closely examine their behaviors and both what and when they're energized to "fight". Well before Hip-Hop existed, Mark Twain, Charles Dickens, and ALL of the classic authors used in school either didn't mention Black people at all or referred to them as the N-Word....FOR OVER a CENTURY.... No Town Hall meetings. All children's books had White people at the center- actually, let's take it a step further. Our education system is an extension of European Imperialism so they brought all of the things THEY thought were valuable - ALL "important" history is told from White people's perspective. All Honors, AP, and highly valued curriculum is based on White writers, philosophers, scientists, etc. Again...since the beginning of our education system that's been the case. By the way, that reality has ALWAYS been intentional and we take for granted how consistent exposure to one thing begins to shape our preferences...and eventually our values and beliefs. So introducing something different into the curriculum, removing White people from the center of the conversation, etc., is a deviation from the norm. Do we realize the harm that our books have caused to non-White people? We never even cared actually. As with MOST things in this country, we don't care unless White people are hurt by it. The unwillingness to examine that reality is mystifying when it's right in our face. But to examine it would mean an acknowledgement that there's an active resistance to changing the status quo because it works for the majority and the rest of us have figured out ways to find comfort in a system that's harder to navigate for some than others.
Thank you for your outstanding comment!!
We have ALL been deeply indoctrinated through a controlled narrative of European centrality and their belief of superiority to the point where we simply remove an analysis of power, oppression, and control based on phenotypic characteristics. We have an inability to detect its ubiquitous existence. It is the fish's inability to recognize it is swimming in water. To the fish, the water isn't something to detect. The water simply "is" with no expectation to question its presence or origin.
This is America...
These are the Double Agents
Malcolm spoke of!
Yep, Marc Lamont Shill even helped his fellow bootlick come up with names
Jason D hill, And all these so called black conservatives, are nothing more then a 20th Century Uncle Tom’s.
Trustees!!!
Always anecdotal. Never any names.
9:13 Listen to what he says… you’re not listening. You’re regurgitating Lamont’s view PRE him being given examples of that not being true
@@listener84 But even he said he looked at school districts and decided to make an interpretation based on parents and teachers, but he doesn't actually point out where there is actual CRT. He used discussions on race in school districts to say they were teaching CRT because he wanted it to sound incendiary. So yeah at best its well written anecdotal evidence with no supporting curriculum to point to
@@lamarholmes4573 No, the first thing he does is mention the articles where he goes into that in detail. It’s the first thing he says after MLH’s question at 9:13
At 9:13 he literally talks about how he got anecdotal evidence and never mentions actual curriculum. He also admits it was meant to be incendiary to drive his point
@@lamarholmes4573 no he doesn’t. He said in those 3 previous publications, he identifies the districts and schools in Seattle and Ohio but that he wanted to make this paper a distillation for brevity. This was in response to the claim that “it’s never a teacher, it’s never a district, it’s never a school.” (Paraphrased)
Consider how blacks, Browns, Natives, Japanese, and Chinese feel about the lack of inclusion in American history. It is killing our souls when our story is left out. What they are calling CRT in schools is simply history.
If you want to see what a people with broken souls look like just look at the native Americans. America should feel utter shame about what they did to these people.
@@jamberry8026 I don’t think many native Americans would describe themselves as having broken souls, and it’s a bit fucked up for you to claim they do for them to make a political point…
What about Hungarians? I only know about why Hungarian immigrants came to America from my Hungarian family, they never taught it to me in school. What about my history?
@@jamberry8026 I know some Natives. I've dated a few. I've an adopted family member who is Hochunk. I lived near and worked on a Shoshone reservation in Ely, Nevada for some years. They are NOT people with broken souls. I'm an atheist but "soul", from my understanding of the concept that it is a transcendent force, is the strongest thing about the Natives that I encountered.
@@willisverynice what legacy do Hungarians have in America? What is the landmark case that they have? Is there a historical event that shifted the America's way of thinking or had groundbreaking impact? 🤔
Privilege is real but it's not race based it's class based. Those with money raise children that are miles ahead of their peers.
I have a problem with racism period especially white people. When, it comes from my own people towards me as a black man, it makes me want to be violent and insane. I grew up in the south and experienced things people like this professor will never experience.
Anytime I've tried to sell some of my old shit like ps4 or laptop the black Clerk always thinks I stole it and the white one has to tell him to chill smdh
There is no Black person alive who has or is even able to marginalize you so just cut the bullshit. People not liking you has nothing to do with racism.
@@FlagWaverFlagBearer The Black clerk is only trying to keep his job. Your hyperbole is messy!
So when it comes from another black person your fine with it?
If some of that privileged soul is destroyed they might not be so haughty.
He's saying critical race theory isn't the problem. It's the way it's being taught(teachers). And teaching critical race theory will upset white children.
Well if I found out my great grandfather was a rapist, I'd be upset too. But does that mean we hide the truth from children? Or teach the teachers the correct way of teaching critical race theory?
Just b/c some white people were racist. Doesn't mean their grandfather was racist, but that's the way they want the kids to feel. Teaching Slavery obviously teaches that some people were racist.
Systemic Racism is true in some situations, but teaching the entire system is racist is INDOCTRINATION!
"C'mon Man"
The system in America was built to be beneficial to mainly one race and the wealthy.
There were whole cities and towns that didn't allow black and brown. Higher rates on loans , less pay with the same qualifications, steeper penalties for the same violations of the law. Advances in medicine because of experiments, operations and surgeries done on blacks and browns. Done during a time when it was believed that black and brown didn't feel pain. Using black and brown for scientific experiments. Using black and brown neighborhoods as social experiments.
America became a super power because of 100s of years of (free labor) slavery. And was able to build the American system we have today.
Come on Bro?! 60-65 years ago we couldn't go to the same schools as white people.
The fact people in America believe that the American system isn't racist, with the history America has. Shows how messed up the educational system is.
@@ghettotrippin9498 They've literally separated Black history from world history & American history, give us a month in public schools(shortest month of the year BTW)... Like the thing's that happened in America to black and brown people aren't part of American history.
And you still think the American system is not racist?
Come on bro!
@@rusone2516 U make a compelling argument about education in America. I agree that more Black history should be taught. More good than bad. In my opinion & the opinion of many other parents. "The Devil is in the Details." It's not what they teach, it's how they teach it.
Just as America History was designed to instill Pride, Patriotism , & a
Capitalist ideology in its
citizens. Culturally Responsive Teaching (CRT) is designed to break that Pride, Patriotism, & Capitalist ideology in our current system.
There is a bigger agenda @ play here. Not only are they teaching history. Their agenda is to change American Culture by changing the mindset
about Capitalism , Pride, Patriotism in America.
Therefore Indoctrinating this generation & future generations. End
game is SOCIALISM. They ain't slick & it will not work!
"C'mon Man"
@@ghettotrippin9498 My statements/ argument, have nothing to do with the "political agendas" of the government. Fact is black and brown have been mistreated under every system America has.
You say CRT is being used to push a socialist agenda.
Have you thought to ask yourself, what agenda ( and has been for 100s of years) is being pushed to American children in our educational system? A system that teaches, slave owners are heroes to the descendants of those same slaves. A system that puts a verse from a racist's poem, as its national anthem. A system that sweeps under the rug the most important contributors (slaves, who were forced into 100s of years of free labor) to America as we know it. Separating their history from world history.
So now you're worried about agendas...
But the agenda to purposely teach lies and belittle my people history, should keep going?
Sounds like an excuse to keep teaching the same BS they been teaching.
He didn’t even know Audre Lorde, Kimberlee Crenshaw, Patricia Hill Collins by name… he’s not qualified to have these discussions, let alone teach CRT
He knew their names, he just wanted to list them correctly in the order of "waves," first, second, and now third. Maybe be a more generous listener?
@@benjaminperez969 -- If you can't answer the following basic questions about Critical Race Theory correctly, you don't know enough about it to have a well informed intelligent opinion on the subject.
In one sentence, what is Critical Race Theory?
What problem did Derrick Bell, Alan Freeman and other legal scholars wrestle with in the 1970s that eventually led to the founding of the Critical Race Theory movement?
How did the Godfather of Critical Race Theory shatter the shining image of a celebrated Supreme Court civil rights ruling?
What is the Interest-Convergence Dilemma?
What was “The Alternative Course?”
Name three of the founders of the Critical Race Theory movement?
Who coined the term "Critical Race Theory" and what did it mean?
Is Critical Race Theory a noun or a verb?
Name one of the key tenets of Critical Race Theory?
Is race biologically real, or is race a social construct?
Is racism a normal feature of society?
Is racism embedded within systems and institutions, like the legal system, that replicate racial inequality?
Is racism confined to a few “bad apples?”
Is racism codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy?
Why does Critical Race Theory reject claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness?”
Does the systemic nature of racism bear primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality?
Are people’s everyday lives relevant to scholarship?
Can legal scholarship be neutral and objective?
What is the goal of the Critical Race Theory movement?
Who are the faces at the bottom of the well?
Who are the Space Traders?
What are silent covenants?
How did you do? Are you well informed, or do you need to learn more about the Critical Race Theory movement?
@@charliewatts6007 Those are darn good questions. I can answer 90% of 'em, actually. I've actually read a lot of CRT "classics," as well as more recent CRT-informed texts. (That said, I'm not sure what "Space Traders" is.) That said, the way you framed/"packed" your response strikes me as a kind of "No true Scotsmen" fallacy, or something kind of like it. (If you know which logical fallacy you're committing, or close to committing, by your framing/"packing," please let me know.) On another topic, I'm half way through Jonathan Rauch's new book The Constitution of Knowledge; as much sympathy that I have for CRT (especially real CRT), I'm pretty darn sure that the best ideas and arguments in Rauch's book are better, stronger than even the best of the best CRT. If you ever read Rauch's new book, I'd be keen to hear what you think. Thank you for your good questions. Best, B.P.
@@benjaminperez969 I'll check out Rauch's book.
Thanks.
You don’t need to know names to understand a theory
No one told him to teach CRT. And getting rid of black history courses isn't the remedy for him teaching CRT.
Imagine being a reasonable person trying to argue on cable news.
Reasonable? You using yourself as a measure for reason? That's laughable!
@@jamberry8026 reading comprehension fail?
@jambeery - what’s w all the hate man?
@@ianalan4367 Hate? In cyber space? How does that work? What, you think I'm going to capslock you to death?🤣
@@jamberry8026 yes, reasonable. Not emotional. Not bigoted. Not hateful.
This show presents many people who are critical of CRT! Where are the people who will just come on and tell us EXACTLY what CRT TEACHES? What is the "theory" if there is one?
It is exactly what the critics are saying it is.
@@puckloki873 No, it's their perspective. Alfred is right, we need an expert on the subject to come on the show and present what it really is.
I think it's called American history.
Telling the truth is CRT😆
What CRT supporters say it is and what is being taught to young children (including whites) are not the same thing. Therein lays a VERY serious problem.
What these news reporters need to do is go to these schools and ask them what they think and what they experience. My daughters, who are white, go to a predominantly black school outside of Baltimore. I can tell you they've never experienced more racial prejudice, also known as racism, because of what you're teaching these children. It is okay to be racist against white kids, and anything a white kid does means they're allowed to be harassed, berated, and threatened with violence. That is what you're teaching these children, and that is how they're interpreting these theories. I now have to homeschool them because they could no longer take the abuse.
My Racoon radar went off. Please send him my best basket of my butter biscuits.
😂!!
Interpretation: I wrote those things about CRT because the other 3 articles I wrote didn't get any attention.
Clever right?
Exactly. He wrote an article to pander to the panic of white conservatives.
Why for someone to be a conservative, you have to hate or dislike other people?
This professor is Jamaican, my question is can an Irish person speak for a German person in terms of whats best for their community ,i highly doubt it but within the Black American community the attempt to dilute our culture by those with a similar skin tone seems to be the thing however Black Americans are very aware of these deceptive titles like "Black Professor Says Critical Race Theory Murders The Soul of White Children", the controlled opposition needs to up their game.
then why do people call Kamala the first African American female vice president?
@@LuisVelazquezLV3 Kamala is not FBA/AA. Those people are ignorant. FBA/AA is an ethnicity and heritage, which she does not belong to. Immigrants aren’t FBA or Descendants of American slaves.
@@King-fz8iw if u born in America u ain't a immigrant
Harris was born in Oakland. She's an American. Her heritage is Indian and Jamaican. But she is American.
@@TheBigThinker944 I never said she wasn’t American. I said she wasn’t AA/FBA. AAs/FBAs don’t descend from immigrants, we descend from American slaves/indigenous. Her being Jamaican and Indian means she isn’t AA/FBA
America really has issues dealing with its racist past. Crazy!!!
Past is the key word
Democrat.....main word missing
@@David-wm8jp When did anti-black racism actually go out of style in America, Brazil, Ukraine, etc. I'll wait...
@MYO Sabriye: It's not very good at dealing with its racist present either. How did that "police reform" thing work out?
@@dpeasehead about a decade or so after Civil rights act.
How the hell can you teach a law school course in kindergarten, 2nd or 8th grade? Impossible, unless the kids are geniuses.
What I hate most about academics is the byzantine route they take to making a point.
Kill theyre Soul ? IF they truly had a soul we wouldnt be in this situation in the first place This is what CRT is truly exposing
WHITE CHILDREN DONT HAVE SOULS? WTF ARE YOU HIGH ON BROTHER> CRACK? LMAO
@@salamjihad3449 no, they don't have souls, there demons and devils. The bible say so
@@marcuseldridge3783 WE ACT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE SOULS WHEN WE ARE ROBBING EACH OTHER AND BURNING SCHOOLS AND STORES DOWN !! AND THE WHITES HAVE TO COME BEHIND AND CLEAN UP THE MESS !! BLESS THE WHITES AND ASIANS FOR PUTTING UP WITH US AND NOT PUTTING US BACK IN CHAINS !!
@@marcuseldridge3783 THE BIBLE ASLO SAYS CERTAIN ISRAELITES WILL HAVE A HARD TIME IN LIFE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THEY DID AGAINST GOD !! LIVE WITH IT FOOL !!
If their souls get hurt by truth, then so be it.
If anyone was serious about resolving this issue, the debate should be around the specific material that is being taught. Dr. Hill gave a specific example - the exercise in White children being told to take for steps forward, from an equal position with Black students, while Black students are told to take four steps backward, from that same position. The question becomes for opponents of CRT, since they are the ones claiming harm, is how White children are harmed by this exercise. Certainly young children would not know how TO process/understand the purpose of this exercise, given their limited experience. Youth and adolescents, would still need adequate supporting information to do so. Then the argument becomes the accuracy or quality of the information. This should lead us to question the curriculum, in our public schools. I'm not sure what has been covered in social studies and history class, in recent decades. Even with what I remember being taught, significant adults of today act as if the education we know they've had, does nothing to influence their preconceived notions and attitudes, when it comes to race and some other issues as well. Older Americans know how this land was acquired, and the facts of the slave trade. Yet they cling to the mythology of American purity and nobility - while the true history contradicts this mythology. It seems the best that we can hope to achieve, is a more thorough and honest history being taught, without the social political commentary, being given favor, one way or the other. Let Afrocentric Indigenous-Americana history be taught, and just point out that these are varying perspectives and disagreements, that have a history in and of themselves. Social and Mass media, can then be used, to have the specific broader social debate, over these various perspectives of history and the current state of affairs.
One important thing I think both sides need to consider, is the likelihood that a White child in the U.S. could develop at the least a subconscious feeling of superiority over Black children, after years of noticing the disparities that exist. The reserve would likely be true for a Black child. This could explain older generations of behavior and attitudes. These old even internalized attitudes are likely weaved into the culture of the country, and are at least subconsciously, passed on to newer generations.
What makes me laugh is the same ppl saying crt is racist are the same ones are actually racist against black ppl lol it's just a racist accusing another of being a racist
From your writing it's clear that you can understand that telling other people that they are inherently racist is probably the most racist thing one can do.
He's white
The dude talking is not ADOS.. Why does his opinion on this subject even matter?
Hahah
Right ! I could only listen to this knucklehead for a few minutes.
"Hill was born and grew up in Jamaica." ADOS like...this the ish we be talking about. SMH
Your headline's wrong:
"🦝 Carries Masta's Water"
...There, I fixed it.😉
You aren't a slave. No one is your master.
@@bee509 Not me, him...keep up.
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@@IMRJT3 Your a Professional Victim
@@dannywitt5160 a victim of what?
White Americans, Black people. Black Americans, white people. What about black kids? 💔
You can't deny history!! Professor!! Come on!!
Why not? The left seems to deny anyone else has engaged in slavery or bad behavior historically. My bad. They admit it happened but are of the oppion it doesn't count because they weren't white.
Nobody is “denying history.”
they should also teach how Europeans acquired slaves. Sold by other Africans. If we are going to learn the truth then the entire truth should be given
Seems we can't agree on it either.
You can't deny that Critical Race Theory is pure racism in itself, it's a desperate attempt to control black people.
This professor is off the chain. He declared that he taught CRT 20+ years ago and identified it as what it truly is, but still he goes on to paint those teachers as CRT educators, even though what they are teaching is not rooted in CRT. Racial discourse existed decades before CRT was conceived. Therefore, Mark's analysis of his article was spot on! He is a bad-faith actor who has chosen to provide fuel for anti-CRT, right-wing racists. Furthermore, slavery ended more than a century ago, we got Civil Rights over 5 decades now, and still, we have issues of racial injustice. Therefore, if some teachers are taking a new strategy of teaching racial empathy, why are these bad-faith actors so quick to condemn this approach without even checking to see if it will bear good fruits? To tell a white student that they are a part of a racist system cannot be as harmful as continuing a system that sees and treats a black child as inferior and less deserving of fairness.
You do know that Coleman Hughes is also from the islands. They don't know that we know that the only reason they were allowed over here is because of their view point that mirrors white supremacy. Even Nelson Mandela was not allowed to come here and was on the no fly list until he died.
@@jamberry8026 I know it is tempting to give into the FBA/ADOS ideology of black nativism to contextualize the problematic positions of some black immigrants. But if you do so, then you would then be compromising your integrity because how then do you explain the countless "native" black Americans who are also vehemently opposed to CRT, BLM, Kneeling, the reality of Systemic Racism, etc., and are pushing the right-wing talking points about these things?
I did not know of Coleman Hughes until the reparation sitting, and since then, I have not wasted my time on him. However, Hughes was born in America, and one of his parents is from Puerto Rico. Therefore, he would be a U.S citizen even if he was born there. On the other hand, Dr Jason Hill was born in Jamaica, so he can be considered an immigrant. However, like Hughes, he did not identify as "black." He accepted that categorization for the sake of his existence in America. But unlike Hughes, Hill does not see CRT as intrinsically problematic - He used to teach it. But he has given over to the hysteria that CRT has somehow evolved into the teaching that white people are innately evil (which is a damn lie).
Mandela visited the U.S in 1990 and 1994. However, the real revolutionary was Winnie Mandela. Nelson Mandela, in my opinion, is not the hero many make him out to be because he weakened the black movement in South Africa by forcing black people to apologize during the truth and reconciliation commission, he agreed to the disarmament of South Africa's nuclear weapon, and failed to give justice to black, poor, disenfranchised South Africans, and that is why he is so embraced by the West because they like when they can use you to impress upon black people that the right way is to be forgiving and peaceful even in the face of your injustice. That is why we saw Bill Clinton at John Lewis' funeral attacking Kwame Ture who died 22 years earlier, and he attacked Kwame because unlike John Lewis (the integrationist), John Lewis was a radical who consistently attacked White Power: Bear in mind, John Lewis was the native black American and Kwame was the immigrant. Therefore, we cannot use the FBA playbook to assess black traitors because these people can also be traced to the days of slavery in Georgia, Virginia, Alabama, etc.
If a young black child had to endure it during the Civil rights Era. A young white child should brme strong enough to learn about.
There is no happy way to explain the genocide of the American Indian, the enslaved African, and the Holocaust. History is unfortunately brutal and unflinching.
It's not history that is brutal. It's the people that made it so.
@@jamberry8026 so most humans that have ever existed then?
Its even harder when to tell yourself and others how exceptional you are. And you're the greatest nation in the history of all other nations, then suddenly hit with all this grim bloody reality. Its no wonder they are flipping out.
@@MrBOASTMAN32 I'm talking about America.
He’s talking around in circles. And it seems he’s more worried about the souls of white people and not what’s going on with the souls of POC.
Well,it seems he did not want to be left out of all the action & the debate about CRT & now we know who he is...so now he has his 15 min of fame as a scholar ...But why does CRT has to remain in the ivory tower of academe, anyway ? We are in a time in history that such concept (theory) should be applied to the every day realities ..to help shed light on a subject that has been hidden to long from the masses esp .of white citizens ...Yes, their might be some miss use of CRT by some, but you don't throw the baby out with the bath waters...
Souls of black people not POC. These people's number 1 object of concern has always been black people.
Jason is paid off.
This guy is supposed to be a Professor? If people are teaching something that isn't CRT then its not CRT. Thank you Marc for pointing that out to him
Nah, the lies about Manifest Destiny and American exceptionalism have been murdering their souls forever and they've been OK with that because a dead soul makes for a better imperialist
Get a job and you’ll have less time to think about that bs. Life is short, don’t spend it blaming others. ✌🏽
@@ursamajor6347 Thank u
Are you crazy. CRT and what these teachers are doing to children is sickening. They are literally telling kids that ALL blacks kids are now and always will be oppressed by ALL white people.
They tell white kids that they are racist simply because of their race. They teach kids who don’t care about race, that racial identity is what will dictate who will be success and who will struggle and be held back, and that the reason why certain kids (black kids) will be held back from success is that their white friends aren’t really friends they are the enemy and will be responsible for keeping them down.
What’s wrong with not even mentioning race. Kids aren’t born racist or hateful, that is taught. the way you get rid of racism is stop talking about race. CRT is dangerous. And Marc Lamont Hill is biggest clown on tv. The reason he said CRT kills the souls of white kids is because it does. To me it does because it tells white kids they are All racist, hateful, ignorant, oppressors. And that the only reason white people succeed is due to privilege not merit. That is dangerous because it will get in some kids minds that they don’t have to try they don’t have to work hard they are white and they will succeed regardless. That’s dangerous.
Noooo! He's a republican? Never would have guest it.
*Guessed
MAGA
@ Good ! That means hes not a Marxist Dip Shit
He an conservative, not an Republican! Do your research.
He taught CRT and had to look down at paper to remember names...bell hooks is not a CRT scholar.
He taught it 25 years ago. He said he doesn't currently teach it.
Agree. That was seriously revealing that he had to check his notes for names that even I know without looking them up.
Why teach CRT when many of our children can't do the basics at their appropriate grade level? There's demand for ethnic studies...but where's the demand for life skills classes that teach you how to invest in yourself...the stock market, real estate, etc.?
CRT is not taught to children. It’s taught in law school or graduate school. The racist right wingers are lying when they say it’s taught to children.
As a Black PhD "professor" in the US, he's trained to protect white/European philosophy (Kant, Aristotle, Marx, Montague, etc) and the children of that lineage. IMO he's a DELIBERATE deflector using a nice tone to do serious harm. You can't discuss Derrick Bell's CRT systemic analysis of the DELIBERATE impact of white supremist POLICIES across our local, state and federal legal, political and economic systems using qualitative analysis alone. Even if he can prove CRT education/training of the nation's majority white teacher corps is the reason American K12 education is declining the past 30 years (ludicrous), as an educated person he should also provide the quantitative economic data on 155 years post enslavement, and inequities in wealth lineage that CRT policies reveal. Mark did well to challenge his data and click bait opportunism as someone who is contributing to the war against Black children's mental health and success. Wonder if he thinks his kind of scholarship ever freed any slaves.
He's not even from America. Why is he speaking on black American history?
Dr. Jason Hill should have just come on the show and said I wrote my article and book to make money 💰
That’s an incredibly lazy take, but ok.
@@listener84 that's a realistic take.
@@WilliamSmith-mz9qz na, newsflash, he gets paid to write. Do the work and read some of his published work. Work, don’t be lazy
@@listener84 everything a person does for money isn't positive. Is being a hit man positive? Personally I don't support CRT because I think it's milquetoast and not radical enough. This man knows what critical race theory is, the rightwing is using it to fire up its racist base. The man is throwing gas on their flame. Some things you don't do no matter how much money you get paid.
@@WilliamSmith-mz9qz you’re the one who put a context on him getting paid, not me. I pointed out that calling him out for getting paid is useless, which it is. Both on the screen are getting paid, there’s no value in pointing out one of them getting paid.
The professor seems to care a lot about our enemy than his own people.
He is mixed raced or he is working for team white supremacy and zionism.
So White People are u enemy?
you're the enemy.
ENEMY? ARE YOU ACTUALLY FOR REAL? YOU ARE YOUR OWN REAL ENEMY !!
What would W.E.B. Dubois say?
Well, I don’t know what the hell he’s talking about 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
They already did CRT to black ppl in school. They said black ppl came from slavery. Now that's critical.
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My mother went to school in South Carolina back in the day. I remember telling her some American Renaissance talking points about Africa since I found them so ridiculous. They ended up being basically what she was led to believe in school. It's shit like that that needs more attention than the bs CRT backlash.
Notice how he had to specify that he's not a Marxist!
He keeps saying that these are "out-layer examples" to the scholar who put hundreds of hours of research into several specific examples and was convinced it was important enough to write a book about. So obviously it isn't as rare or "out-lying" as the interviewer would have us to believe. His arrogance is blinding him from wisdom.
I could do hundreds of hours of research into toe fungus and write a book. Does that automatically grant me a pass?
First off from his dialect I can tell he is not from this country. So that is already a knock because he does not see things from the lens of black folks from this country , so we can stop the conversation there.
truth
Oh, look, a wild racist appears.
@@waakow you make no sense, but carry on. Smh
Hey so just so you understand, being from a group doesn't make you a better candidate to research and speak on it because you're biased. Cultures don't self research because they have the issue of not understanding when something is unusual, that's why outsiders usually do research on them. Try knowing literally any fieldwork theory before trying to dismiss the argument of a scholar.
@@jaxmiller724 so let me understand your logic. Just because I’m from a certain group I can not speak on such group, but someone else who is not can speak on it because they have done the research? Ok, got it! Smh
Absolutely idiotic; first CRT is not taught to children, second CRT does not blame or concern itself with individual behaviors - its focus is racist institutions not racist individuals. Any professor that does not know that, needs to STHU!
My takeaway is that this professor, unlike most of the CRT opponents that have appeared on this program, knows what CRT actually is, but, that his protestations against it seem to uncover an agenda. Like, who is paying him to espouse these views?
Note the lack of sincerity in his convictions. The back-peddling of his alarmist headlines, the discreditation of the Black intelligentsia.
Can publishers posses similar agendas for the sake of book sales or does Depaul University’s endowment pose incentives for provocative academics? I believe it’s the latter.
@@ssboxer let me go ask my man from DePaul.
When China is pushing crt,you might be supporting the wrong thing
@@Pedaissance mmmmmm🤔 how is China "supporting " CRT? So looking into how Racism influences the Criminal Justice System is a bad thing? So Equality is "Communistic "?
@@victorwilliams1304 this is what believing in the MSM makes you believe. They openly admitted they are trained Marxists. They gave none of their money to black causes. All their money goes to the Democrats and to enrich the BLM leaders so they can buy rich homes in white neighborhoods in Cali (Patrisse Cullors.) Even some of the posterchildren for BLM like Tamir Rice's family says BLM gave them nothing and that they're nothing more than a grift.... 'black lives" is just a front.. they're actual communists. The sister of Cullors just recently bought a mansion formerly owned by Canadian communists. They push a lie (like black people being disproportionately murdered by police) and people like you eat it up..
Lies, lies, lies it's getting hard to think of a alibi. He does not repeat does not believe what he wrote, he's here for fair skin fellows. If he did he would have done it right and not go with the conservative definition.
This prof. Sounds Caribbean to me! Light skin people in the Caribbean see themselves as "Whites" we need to redifine what "Black" is and is not!
How come the black News channel doesn't want to talk about Darrell Brooks Jr
These dudes NEVER offer a better solution
CRT isn't even a solution. The solution is liberalism and gradual progress that has been happening over 150 years. Color indifference is real and achievable. If you don't believe it's possible, tell me why people don't discriminate based on other people's hair color? They notice it, but it doesn't bring up any ill will - how is that possible?
FYI : Blue eyes, Brown eyes..... truth is painful, just as life is, but when the pain of truth is revealed at a young age it allows for us to grow freely, and to make informed decisions. It does not break us, he'll Black children have been living with the realities of the negative effects of the construct of whiteness since the 1600's, hell, pain shared is pain lessened and awareness is growth.
If this man is teaching my children I want my tuition money back. What a freaking joke!
He's an immigrant, I'm tired of these ppl sticking their nose in our business, paid opp. He's not one of us. He sounds nervous. Hmm?
He sounds nervous?? He just sounded soft-spoken. A raging bull is typically not a careful thinker. Besides, haven’t you ever noticed how much Hill stutters when he gets excited or pushed back on? I never fault him for that. It’s just his way of speaking.
Booom!! People need to open their dam eyes. His ancestors didn’t go through American slavery, so he will say anything against ADOS for a check. His POV does not matter.
@@crisjunfan2139 Dude go away.. Tucker Carlson is calling.
@@Rook20 you sound exactly like tucker Carlson. Same ethnonationalism and misplaced bigotry with a different color. I’m not a fan of the guest either he seems like an academic who’s trolling for attention to sell books
@@Unclejamsarmy Had to get your other account huh? 😂😂🤣🤣
Need more timeeee!!! These are great conversations and this needs to be hashed out so people can have a full understanding of what CRT is about. Give Marc a full hour show to discuss these issues pleaseeee!!
YES!
This can't be hashed out with two black men talking about it. It would be good if Marc and Biden could have this conversation...but not to understand CRT but to expose how racist Biden really is.
@@knownbutunknown Biden is an idiot. Being distracted by your racist ideology and hatred for White successful people will continue to divide Americans so the Chinese can easily take over in the next 25 years.
@@sovereigncitizen3633 actually, you are a racist and a Xenophob as evidenced by your statement on the Chinese. You post racial people try to hide your racism and white supremacy and blame others for it. You are part of the problem. I actually believe you are devoid of a soul.
@@knownbutunknown Well that went no where didn’t it? Lol ppl are too damn sensitive. I think we should all get along and not be judged by the color of our skin. As Americans we must come together or we WILL be destroyed.
I have nothing against Chinese ppl. The Chinese Communist Party is the enemy. The CCP wants to destroy this country, and they love it when we are divided. It will make it easier for them to conquer us.
Jason Hill was born and grew up in Jamaica. He describes himself as "mixed race" in Caribbean terms, but "perceived as being black in America." He immigrated to the U.S. in 1985 when he was 20 years old, and eventually became a U.S. citizen. Hill has written about his journey to the United States, most notably in his last book, We Have Overcome: An Immigrant's Letter to the American People. Hill, a gay man, has credited Ayn Rand's work with helping him come to terms with his homosexuality, especially as someone who grew up in Jamaica, a country he describes as "the most homophobic culture in the world. ~wiki
Just tell the truth.
That's the only thing that matters and that's the only thing they won't do. Either side
The truth is ugly and brutal and cast America in an unenviable light.
Emmit tills mother knows plenty about having a soul ripped out and he himself knows plenty about murder.
What does any of this have to do with emmit tills murder?
@@3fsportstalklive833 Michael is trying to make whatever he possibly can relevant to the conversation. The reality no longer matches the demands, so we have to delve further and further back or even superimpose a fictitious reality to remain relevant.
As a Jamaican-American, I am disgusted by Caribbean immigrants who will come, make their money in America and gain from sweat of black Americans, only to deny validity of the black American struggle.
There is nothing that you guys going to do and stop the white genocide. Nothing, once the whites are gone it will be free and prosper.
Jesse Lee Peterson’s son right here y’all 😂
Yes he is 🤣🤣🤣
Amazzzinnnn😂😂😂
Mullato version of Jesse Lee Peterson
I work at a school. It's a strange world where the teaching of specialized history is getting more money, press and dialogue than the basics in reading, writing and arithmetic. My father received the so-called Three Rs in a poor, one-room school house in the the Great Depression. With determination, hard work and goals, he rose beyond anyone's expectations to graduate with a master's degree in English. He later became a professor of English literature at a Black college. The Three Rs should be the core of every school curriculum around which other disciplines are built. Many schools are becoming sidetracked by their main mission, which is graduating well-rounded students that can support themselves and their future families.
Your father sounds a lot like other great men - George Washington Carver, Henry Ford, Abraham Lincoln, etc. who didn't need abstract theories or preferential treatment to advance the human condition. What the CRT crew is missing is that fields like math and language are TOOLS for communicating, creating and elevating mankind. Those 3 R's are objectively useful, and objectively distinct. If you want an efficient car engine, you need math, metallurgy, etc., not social justice. The overriding theory that "white people are oppressors" misses the fact that "white people" in the distant past rarely came in contact with non-white people, yet managed to invent everything from plant breeding to space travel, thanks in large part to learning and developing the fundamentals of education. History is full of injustice. We should be working on preventing more of it by elevating the minds of young kids rather than turning them against each other.
Reading, writing and arithmetic are what's being taught in our schools. Any discussion of race is minimal. The right has turned critical race theory into their new Boogeyman to frighten white people into voting for them.
@@exiledfrommyself and you know this how? You ignore the thousands of parents who are having negative experiences?
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 Nothing is happening to them. Those experiences don't exist outside of their minds. CRT has become a boogeyman for right wing nut cases.
@I McCormick In your long and meandering response to my year-old post, you seemed to have missed my whole point. I vaguely addressed giving precedence to CRT (a higher education and legal framework) in elementary schools over the basics and common core teaching of a State. From there, I briefly related my father's difficult road to intellectual enlightenment, where he earned three degrees in English and English literature and ultimate success. I hope you know that courses in American and world history are a requirement of advanced degrees or at least they used to be when my father attended three different colleges throughout the 50s. I did not specifically address history in my post, but I did simply say that: "The Three Rs should be the core of every school curriculum around which other disciplines are built." Other disciplines can be history, science, art, music, etc., etc. At almost 60 years old, I've known so many people who were good in sports, art and other things in grade school that allowed them to slide through to a diploma, only to find that they were ill-prepared for college or a good job because they were deficient in math or communication skills. Surprisingly, I still see this happening in the personal computer age, when children have so many advantages that my father did not have in a small Kansas town. 😉
I taught school in the south and every year during black history, Although it was not CRT, white parents was so upset that their kids were being taught about Langston Hughes, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Fredrick Douglass, George Washington Carver ect...
CRT rejects black leaders that you named on account that it rejects individualism and merit. You chose the wrong people.
Exactly! Whites have a problem with anything Non-white....
This guy thinks he is smarter than he is
@Dutch Meyer as long as he says the bs you like.
Everything boils down to reparations ‼️ , I mean if someone’s 20’ 30’ + isn’t learned enough to not to be racist the problem isn’t us it’s them 🤷🏿♂️ just give us our dam money and we’ll build our own schools, businesses, hospitals to stay away from those “specific people” that don’t like us. I’m finally ok with that. Some people feel threatened if their kids learn true American history smh
Your absolutely correct
We built our own already, the burn it down.
There are entire major cities with monumental budgets controlled either entirely or nearly entirely by black voters and politicians. If you have the solution to make things work why not go to Baltimore, for instance, and make it happen?
@@jayarah5000 you guys burned it down... billions of dollars worth of damage to black communities perpetuated by blm protestors, there is no accountability in the black community
critical race theory isnt true American history, its revisionism to push a marxist agenda.... billions of dollars worth of blm donations lining democrat politician pockets. Majority of urban areas have black city councils, black police chiefs, black mayors... the problem isnt racism
I agree with the guest, crt is not history of slavery, it is a bunch of people presenting their opinions about race, everyone is for teaching the history of slavery, and the unique suffering of blacks in this country. The problem with crt is it is not about history or about not making mistakes of history, it is about unhinged teachers making children feel bad about their color, being white. Children today are not at fault for sins of the past. Slavery has been a world problem, since the beginning of time, and we need to teach that is an evil as well as other forms of oppression, or subjugation. But, Marc saying people don’t want to talk about race, slavery, and examples of subjugation is flat out wrong, that is what the media says. I am 54 years old, we learned about evils of slavery and subjugation in school throughout elementary, junior high, and high school, and we all, meaning everyone I grew up with had sincere desire to change things and do away with any racist behavior, Marc refuses to see the problem with crt being used as reverse racism by unhinged individuals. That is the issue. We always need to be on alert that we are treating all people the way we would want to be treated. CRT is being used as a means to harm, and pit races against each other. I want my children to live in harmony with others, no matter race. But, many today want to keep divides. When will it end.
Bob Marley! The truth is an offence but not a sin. Is he who laugh last is he who win!
The basic fact that most biologists and anthropologists do not consider race to be a valid concept in grouping humans should be a starting point for any conversation surrounding race.
Wonderful point!
You need to define CRT before you have a public discussion about it.
But he doesn’t want to, because then he would not be able to pick and choose what he needs for his argument, and would have to argue the whole ugly thing…
If we could all trace our ancestry back, we all might not like what we see. After all, racism and slavery did not begin in the Americas or in Europe. Unfortunately with human beings, these things are timeless.
What's wrong with teaching US history without leaving that facts out
@@jayjohnson7708 because it did not start in America that's why!
...were not just talking about "slavery" in the US. Were talking about the history of Racism in our Country and how Racism has influenced and has infiltrated almost every level of our society since the beginning of this Nation. Seriously...as a Citizens of this Country all of us and even you have to accept and acknowledge all of our Country's History even the Racist and Disgusting past that is US History. NO MATTER WHAT...and because of this Country's Racist past to this DAY it still effects POC and their everyday lives.
Glenn white washing facts with something white people made up is the main reason we will remain pushing the envelope... the truth will be told to every American...
Blackwashing facts isn't helpful either. The 1619 Project does just that. Anyone who says that the original sin was slavery does just that. If the erasure of black history by white people is racist, than the erasure of indigenous history by black people and white people is also racist. And both black people and white people are guilty of doing that a lot.
...so what about the souls of Black children?? Does he have an article for us. I'm so confused🤔🤔 Some of our children need healing and all of our children need positive promotion. I agree that activist don't need to teach kids. They usually have an agenda. I knew a teacher who took it to far. Luckly he taught in an all Black/Latino school. This guy is smart but off his rocker with this so-called theory.
Thank youuuuuu
Wtf are these ppl talkn about
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You gave him no room to provide his argument
This professor writes strong language in his book but concedes everything to mlh. The most bizarre interview I've ever seen.
I think he had an off day here. I listened to other interviews where he's far more articulate. Part of the problem is his article got taken out of the academic discussion circles it was written for. He didn't coin the phrase "spirit" murder. It's a response to other articles which had used the same or very similar phrase to discuss the negative impact teachers can have on black and minority children. He was drawing a parallel to build on a concept. He has also written other articles to talk about the impact on black children.
That said I took the trouble to read the article and was not overly impressed with it, but the language made more sense once put in context of other articles.