I know that bark lol! They have a few different ones but there is one, particularly from Bo, that reminds me of him almost talking to the night 🤗 Thanks for watching and commenting!! Take care ✌🏻
My Great Pyr is amazing! She weights 140 lbs and adores her job. She loves wintertime and turns into a huge puppy bouncing around everywhere! She sleeps most of the day so she can stay awake all night long patrolling her farm. She has free rein of our farm and loves her people, chickens, cats, and horses. There have been many instances where wild turkey and deer have hovered around our place just so they can have her protection from predators. I think I will never ever have any other dog but a Great Pyrenese from now on. They are absolutely wonderful.
Growing up I spent summers on my grandmother's dairy farm until I was 10. She had a working dog named Duke. He was a rough collie. Duke's job was to corral and protect on the cattle and their calves from coyotes. He also protected the chickens. He would never let us go into the woods alone and would always be on the lookout. Then, he would lead us back home through the woods. I could tell Duke, where are the chickens? He'd run to the chicken barn and check them out, then look at me with an expression saying, they are fine. He would never step foot in my grandmother's home and always lived outside. No one ever put a leash on him. I saw that a dog at its happiest is a noble being with a cause, responsibilities and gravitas, like Duke had. Since then, I have never wanted a dog at home, castrated, on a leash, frustrated.
@@joey_the_farmdawg Thanks for reading Duke's story! You would understand. A dog is a different being being on a farm, with a mission. So here are a couple more stories about Duke. The coyotes would come close to the farm and at night, I could hear Duke warning them to stay away. I could see him out there at night, standing, waiting for the coyotes. My grandmother said that sometimes he ran with them. He knew her voice commands to go round up the cows and bring them in. They'd normally come on their own but there would be a stray or two who would wander off. One of Duke's loved to go out and find a stray cow with us. He'd be all excited when we set off. This was also one of my own best memories of that farm, wandering around looking for cows that went on walk about, often in the rain (the farm was in Washington state). To this day one of my favorite poems is this one and I always think of Duke and those stray cows when I read it. The Lost Heifer (Austin Clarke) When the herds of the rain were grazing In the gap of the pure cold wind And the watery hazes of the hazel Brought her into my mind, I thought of the last honey by the water That no hive can find. Brightness was drenching through the branches When she wandered again, Turning the silver out of dark grasses Where the skylark had lain, And her voice coming softly over the meadow Was the mist becoming rain.
I had a giant Pyr up in the mountains of Colorado. Amazing dog on so many levels but my neighbor used to call me in tears about the barking. That SOB would bark at leaves falling to the ground. WOOOooo….WOOOOOO…….WOOWOOWOOWOOwoooo…..like a metronome.
@@danielgabalski2312 😂😂 yes the barking can be out of control sometimes but I have learned as excessive as it may seem, usually there is a reason! Usually when they’re young they will bark out of insecurity and as they mature it becomes more fine-tuned.
Im so happy you are raising awareness. So many people buy dogs because they are pretty and lock them up in a house. 1 hour walking around the neighborhood is not a life for these working dogs. Much luv 💗
I have said this so many times in my working dog group whenever someone says “He still wants to play after a 3-mile walk.” We have Heelers, and they need exhaustive play to be great pets if they don’t have a job. A walk is NOT enough. 🐶♥️
Great video 👍. We have 2 Caucasian Ovcharkas. Our female is 9 years old and our male is almost a year and a half. They have 2 totally different personalities. Our girl has always been on the lazy side and our boy can get crazy from time to time. We have socialized them since they were pups. It is a lot of work but so worth it. Livestock guardian/protection dogs are definitely not for everyone. People need to do their research before adopting any type of dog breed, but especially when it comes to these powerful independent breeds. We love our giant fluffy babies ❤
@@nicolemcdaniel2260 Caucasians are definitely one to know exactly what you’re getting into! Good to hear you worked on socializing them- it’s important for being able to take them to the vet and other things like that. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience ✌🏻😊
My boy, Alabai/Malakli, is a true 36" at the withers and 220 lb hulk of muscle. He has perhaps the best work ethic of any k9 or person I have met. Not the job normally associated for LGD, but he excels and stays busy which he loves. Actually a quiet boy, but when he alerts everyone in the county knows it. Great video!
People in the city shouldn't get working dogs unless they can give them the jobs, exercise, and stimulation that they NEED. Such an important message. Research the breed, know your lifestyle and make sure your dog fits in it.
I have a 168 pound Great Pyrenees. He dug up my yard and I was sued by my HOA. I bought a place in the mountains that is steps away from a National Forest. When dusk comes, the coyotes start up. There are also bears and deers. He guards all night long and LOVES IT. I have 2 acres fenced in for him but it is literally a stones throw from the Forest. It gets down to 10 degrees and wants to be outside. It is also much much cooler. He is does not dig anymore. He sleeps in his huge bed during the day with me and my other pack and then he guards all night. More than 10 times I have said to my BF - CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING THIS DOG IN AN APARTMENT??? I write all this to say: You are 100% right. 💯🩷. Edit: I want to add, I *NEVER* would get a GP. Someone threw him out at my house and I took him in. He is so smart that I believe it is like a super hero.
@@SiberiaDreams that’s so beautiful what you did for him! Mine were rescues and literally changed my life and where I lived too! Thanks for sharing your story ✌🏻❤️
@@07negative56 Oh yes. Sadly I lost some money but it was insane. Retired old men who would walk around the neighborhood and take notes on your property - what they perceived as wrong. It was a nightmare.
I too once bought in a HOA. After interviewing board’s members. All claimed to be conservatives. But they laid out the basic “Do’s & Do Not’s.” Said nothing I couldn’t have fruit trees. Fined me for fruit trees. I put it on market in 2 weeks. HOA’s are horrible! I even looked at one in Arkansas. They had a rule. No homes less than 3,000 sqft.
Excellent video! To call these dogs a mere pet would be an insult to them, they are a working partner and a management system. In proper use you get very attached to them, even when you do have to make allowances for their management techniques learning that if you do it their way everything will be alive in the morning. I have even seen one move an older lamb away from a fresh set of twins, without disturbing the ewe or the newborns then quietly walk away (couldn't have done it better myself, would have missed it if I hadn't been looking out of the window).
@@jeanettegray7462 wow that’s an incredible opportunity to witness that! Lucky you! They never cease to amaze me with their independence and intelligence. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
We knew some neighbors and ahe said. Do not pet my great Pyrenees. They are working. Dogs she also warned neighbors to keep their dogs out of her fields because I he dogs would kill them .
Oh, they definitely won't guard against people, that's for sure! My sweet girl never barks when someone comes and instead runs behind the house to hide. 🤣 She is one of the most timid dogs I've ever seen, but takes protecting her charges seriously against any animal threat. She really is the happiest with her goats, birds, and cats, I can't imagine having her inside.
The same thing happens with Estrela moutain dogs, they are dogs that only attack as a last resort, they know how strong they are. In many years, none have ever jumped on my chest without me telling them to, they know it is an attack position, even though it is an act of affection for most dogs.
@@joycelima3051 wish Bo knew that. He has a tendency to get up on me sometimes but I think it’s because he wants to inspect me or smell my face- like making sure everything is ok 🤗 Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences ✌🏻
I got a marrema to be an urban guard dog. Unfortunately she's the friendliest dog on the block if not the town. She is a perfect dog for nursing home visits and needs to be around people, especially new people.
Met one while I was walking the Camino de Santiago in Spain. He was a Dehesa dog and about one year old. I had to cross his land. Before we met, I saw him biting into a bike tire, just for fun. Afterwards he sat in front of me and waited, if sth interesting might happen. I calmly asked him for permission to cross his land and after I asked, he just walked away. I am 6ft4 and around 260lbs and was brought up with dogs, but until I realized his age, I really peed my pants.
Different breeds, lineages of breeds, need thoughtful intention, true herding breeds need a job. Please match your individual environment to these details ..great video....having a mismatched dog is cruel, having intention to the best fit is real love for these wonderful creatures.
This is great! It's 10PM now while I'm watching this and my Fluffy (Pyre/Border Collie mix) is out in the backyard barking at the moon! And I love him, I am his pet!
A couple of Pyrenees mauled a lady who was bicycling and got between them and their sheep. I can understand the needs for them to be working dogs, but there are dogs who need to be socialized with other dogs and people or they will be aggressive and maul humans, even children. If you watch Seanthesheepman, Sean let's his 3 BCs be working dogs, but they're also loving dogs. Our BC JackBNimble was not a livestock dog and had no sheep-or cattle ( some of his relatives herded cattle too in North Ga,), yet he had a thick double coat like his daddy Andy because my brother kept him outside and he never got to come inside the house. He could sleep on the deck with snow falling about him, but he did have an Igloo doghouse and a doggie door that he could enter into his crate inside the garage if the weather got really bad and his girlfriend, LittleBoPeep had one litter before she got spayed. When his mother Tess Siobhan died, he came to stay with me and BoPeep's cousin/ BFF my Gypsy Rose Lee and gave her 4 girls and 2 boys as we before we spayed her too After this first litter. Most of the pups went to farms, but a few were trained as service dogs for those with CP, Epilepsy, Diabetes (Tess learned to alert me to my Diabetic² highs and lows in her own somehow), and other disabilities-like PTSD or Autistic Sprectrum Disorder-etc.
Thank you for sharing your video. Over the years, my LGDs have been Maremmas and a Kangal. My farm shares the territories of a cougar, a pack of wolves, the occasional bear, various raptors and owls, martens, weasels, foxes, skunks, and lynx. I bought my first three Maremmas 13 years ago. Before then, the coyotes were literally coming up to the kitchen door trying to get my cats - they managed to snag two. I lost one cat to a Great Horned Owl. Hawks were harassing the chickens. The cougar was scoping out the horses. Once the Trinity was established and were old enough to be let out to deal with the predators, they quickly set the them straight. With the exception of losing one gander to the cougar - managed to snag him from behind the horse trailer before the dogs knew she was there - I have not lost any cats or livestock to predation. And people coming onto the property in my absence also stopped. But dogs do age, some get injured. They die. New pups take their place. I lost the oldest of the original Trinity two years ago. My new Maremma, whom I got as a pup, just turned two and has just reached the turning point where he now understands that the chickens are not chew toys and that he has a job to do. And he now takes his job seriously. Soon, I can bring in a pup for him to teach. Over the years, each one of my dogs has been loyal to me, has physically stood between me and many a perceived threat in the darkness and, yes, at least one or another watched over me whenever I ventured out in the pastures or walk the fence lines whilst the rest watched the livestock. I do believe they thought I was one of the goats. Sometimes we played, I gave them their milk bone treats before shutting the farm down for the night, I sat with them and enjoyed a moment of relaxation watching the animals with them on a lazy summer afternoon between chores. They hated being groomed, but they let me brush the burrs out of their coats. Going into the house is the last thing they wanted. They preferred the snow. But they were not pets. They never were. Just as my young boy, who insists on playing fetch, and racing up and do down the driveway and lane playing his form of tag with me, and shadowing me when I am doing my chores, is not a pet. They all were, and still are, working dogs first.
@@miraleatardiff8543 Wow, what a great comment! You sure do have a heavy predator load where you are! We have tons of coyotes and our area is known as grizzly bear alley and lots of hawks and bald eagles. They sure are amazing at what they do. I had 3 at once and may try to tell that story if I can get through it without crying too much 😔 Thanks so much for commenting and watching. Take care ✌🏻
Just say thanks to all the people preserving our amazing working line dogs, they are specific bread for the traits needed for their job .... they are not your average fur-baby.
Certain dog breeds are not meant to be inside cuddling with you. Maybe sometimes when they get old then they might enjoy being house dogs. When my Border Collie/Lab was young she liked being outside with us. She herded the chickens & the kids. Now she is older she does not like being outside for more than a few minutes. She still points out the scent paths of rats, skunk or whatever because it’s her instinct.
My Caucasian Shepherd bitch, rescued from Romania at age of 5 and in a rescue centre in the UK, was a perfect pet and friend to me for 5 years. Fortunately, I have more knowledge about dogs than you and, looking for a new pet, I brought her home. It is incorrect and unfair to generalise and say livestock guardians are not pets. Many many livestock guardians are indeed wonderful, loved pets and living their best lives. Your first mistake is stating simply "livestock guardians" There are a number of lsg breeds, each with different instincts, temperaments and needs. You keep just 2 as working dogs and specify that you speak from your own experience only. Your knowledge is therefore very limited and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing resulting in spreading misleading information. Some information you are giving is totally incorrect. There are livestock guardians in rescue centres, desperately needing homes and they could now be passed by because of the misinformation in your video. Please take a critical look at your video and think about changing, or removing it.
CUDDLE BUG 😍!! Animals are so much more fun to be around than people! The name literally says this is a dog who needs a job. This is a dog with a purpose and must be able to work. I would be so rich if I could figure out how to bottle common sense.
You mentioned German Shepherds. They, historically, were herding/guardian dogs. They’re intelligence and need for enrichment is what makes them so great as military, law enforcement employees and family members. Being a family member is a job!!!! Takes work!!!! I grew up with LSG and herding dogs. Border Collies, Aussies, Queensland Heelers, Great Pyrenees, Anatolian Shepards, etc. They all had their talents, individual jobs with one common goal. They make wonderful family members. Yes they do! I get what message you’re trying to convey. It would be more accurate to say that LSG dogs make wonderful companions but your lifestyle and their needs should be compatible. My 8 year old, darling, 65 pound Aussie has a HUGE job and that job is me! And she’s all in!!!! *yes! That’s big for an AS but she’s lean* I can’t get up to go to the restroom without her jumping up to see what’s next. She lacks the concept of personal space. 🙄🤭 Got her when she was three months and we are always together. If she’s not welcome, then neither am I. Super high energy! Needs to bust ass for about four straight hours. Then sleeps on the foot of my bed in between. Always at the ready this one! Luckily, I work on a ranch so there’s plenty of individuals for her to invade their personal space with gentle, kind love while I’m working with the equines. She’s wonderful!!!!🥰 It’s time to get her a baby brother or sister though. I’m getting older and not as into intense wilderness activities and convincing magnificent creatures that could end me with one kick that everything that we do together is their idea! Love and trust! I’m thinking Corgi. The swinging hips in a more manageable size!!!!
I have never had a GSD but I do understand they have a very high prey drive and need A LOT of exercise and thrive off of commands. So happy your girl found the perfect life for her and you! Thanks for watching and sharing! Take care ☺️✌🏻
Yep. Family members of mine got an LGD because they thought they were cute and fluffy. They lived in a residential neighborhood. When it was inside, it was in their laundry room. When it was outside it was tethered. Ending up biting someone and they gave it away 🙄
From a groomers perspective on their coat. Technically yes dog fur has the ability to insulate from the heat and the cold. They go through cycles where they basically blow coat and grow in a specific kind of coat for the summer vs the winter. Often times a dog with a coat like this will have a very thin undercoat in the summer. HOWEVER these breeds are not bred specifically for hot weather and it would be cruel to keep them in hotter climates. There are limits to their coat because they were bred for the cold. Also, you HAVE to brush them out when they blow their coat or their coat cannot function properly in order to maintain their temperature and can overheat in the summer. Also worth noting DO NOT SHAVE THEM. I know that this owner knows that but the coat functions as more than just temperature regulation. It is also to help keep dirt and debris off them and protect from the sun. If it is shaved it will destroy the function of the coat. Sometimes it can be grown back like normal but it is a shock to their hair growth system (its in their skin and the skin is an organ) and is really taxing to grow it all back and might not ever function the same if it does.
Great video, I agree with you with the caveat that there are numerous examples of homeowners having LGDs and very successfully using them for property protection and personal protection in both urban and suburban environments. It comes down to having the knowledge and experience and understanding of LGD breeds in general and choosing the right breeds (mostly the ones that still remain land race breeds) that have a long history of use both as LGDs and property/human guardians.
Very fair opinion! Like I mentioned, they don't all fit into one set definition and there are exceptions. Thanks for sharing and watching! Take care ✌🏻
yes, in their countries of origin, this kind of dogs were used as protectors of animals and respectively of the people who took care of those animals, their purpose was both to warn shepherds and to fight with predators if necessary
If you want a giant breed for a,pet, buy a Mastiff. We’ve had three and they are fantastic pets. Be prepared though, they are expensive because they eat about 12 cups of food a day and when they need vet care, hang on, since most vet care is based on weight and Mastiff are the largest dog in the world-our male was 230 and females were 190 and 170. Also, they don’t love long, like most Giant breeds. Our all died in their 8th year, which is so hard because you get so attached to them.
I couldn't believe it had taken so long to figure out that dogs and cats are not experiencing our affection the way we think. I think they are meant to respond to people who are not seeing them as "pets" or a plaything/curiousity toy. It comes down to living in a society which is very distracted and out of touch with itself, there will be little healthy interaction with animals.
A great video, very well spoken. Your experience shines through. Many working dogs can be pack family members too. Having a job is a good thing. Live long and prosper.
Thanks for the video. I grew up on a wheat and sheep farm and we had a number of working dogs (sheep/cattle dogs, not LGDs). I see the same problem with Kelpies and Heelers coming into our rescue because they needed "a job" and misbehaved. Glad your dogs are living their best life doing what they were born to do.
@@matthewvelo It’s sad to see any dog in a shelter and very frustrating when it’s because they weren’t provided the right environment to thrive 😕 thanks for your comment and for watching ✌🏻
If they don't feed themselves or hunt for their own food their pets or there slaves that work for you, and I know you live them as we all do, dogs do need a job to do no matter where you live
100% agree. Even with more PETLIKE dogs we are not honouring them by treating them as little toys. Research the breed you want and if you can't commit to their physical and mental needs then move on and get a dog that suits your lifestyle. Hey I'd love a belgian malionois but I'm no where near capable of working that breed. So i have a mutt. He's happy with morning walk 2 hours, sniffing around in the afternoon and watching me clean. Then 1 hour at night and some fetch or hiding and go find it... got to love the dog for who they are.
You make a great point! Yes, most dogs (even mutts) have genetics from working dogs. Malionois seem to be a lot of work so sounds like you found what works best for you. Thanks for sharing and watching ☺️✌🏻
@@joey_the_farmdawg thanks for your reply. I make sure to include activities that may be from breeds in the mix, like digging, herding, searching etc. Great channel.
My grand father used German shepherds for for livestock protection and farm security on a cattle farm. Never had any problems cause the dogs were on duty !
The fact you have to apologize for your working dogs to a bunch of over domesticated, kakapo humans that have undergone island syndrome is inverted. People who sit at a desk drinking coffee all day are not entitled to an explanation from anyone who works out in the elements as our agrarian ancestors. As long as you treat them fairly, respect them and have their health and welfare covered you’re good. We once thought getting working line Rottweilers for pets was a good idea, it wasn’t. Luckily we had two acres of space, a relatively harsh climate during winter (which they prefer) and I was in my late teens that I spent time doing physical activity with them daily. Dogs, whilst they seem to adapt to laying around the house all day are happier doing something. Feed them the best food, be fair, and give them something to do and they’ll live a fulfilled life.
Hey guys, sorry about the audio. It was raining and it threw off the noise reduction feature on my editing app. Good news is, lav mics are on the way 🙌🏻 Thank you so much for watching ✌🏻❤️
Hallo, ich sehe Dein Video und bin absolut begeistert. Der Ton ist absolut unwichtig, das Video ist so wertvoll, da interessiert kein Ton so lange man Dich versteht und man versteht Dich gut. Mir sind diese Fakten sehr wohl bekannt, deshalb habe ich auch keinen solchen Hund obwohl ich sie liebe und bewundere. Eine russische Züchterin hat mir damals 1 Stunde lang erklärt, weshalb ich es nicht tun soll, obwohl wir Garten und Haus haben und ich 24h für den Hund da bin. Dein Video sollte Pflichtvideo für alle Züchter und vor allem Tierheime werden, dort werden solche Hunde oftmals an Menschen vermittelt , bei denen mal genau weiß, dass Deine Argument NICHT beachtet werden. Furchtbar so viel Ignoranz . Tausend Dank im Namen aller Herdenschutzhunde.
What breed is the smaller one? Is there any Chihuahua there? Would maybe be a mix but I think I see Chi in the face. Yes, the smallest can be the most aggressive and protective. Unfortunately while they bring it, they don't bring much. Great alerters though
@@tscully1504 The small dog is Joey and his mom is some sort of terrier mix (I suspect mostly rat) and his dad is supposedly a corgi but I think he looks more like a chi-weenie maybe mixed with some corgi 🤭
@@joey_the_farmdawg Ah ok, the Rat Terrier makes sense. I wasn't familiar with the breed but see they are similar to Chis in the face but have a short tail like yours. They sound like similar temperments too. Long lifespans as well, like Chis, which I find ironic that the most high strung apparently thrive on stress. :D
@ The nub of a tail is rat terrier and Joey looooves to get them! He is very bossy and not what you would call a snuggly dog so I’m sure he’ll be around for quite some time torturing the cats 😂
I adopted a 4 year old Golden Retriever Great Pyrenees. I would say he had more Golden in him. He was our 4 legged child. My neighbor is a lot younger and can walk miles so I have him walk Emmett for me to get a good walking in. Emmett would get excited when my neighbor would come over because he knew he was going for a good walk. Sadly, at 10, he died of cancer. It was all of sudden.
@ : You are welcome. It has been 2 years that Emmett died. We are at that age now that it questionable whether to get another dog or not. It would be a rescue dog again probably 4 to 7 years old and a lot smaller. We do have a indoor cat that lived with Emmett so the next dog would have to be cat friendly.
I've always wanted a Great Pyrenees or a Maremma Sheepdog. Unfortunately, I don't have a farm and never will, and I just don't think it would be ethical for me to have such a dog given the lazy/beach/travel lifestyle I live. Maybe I'll get a St. Bernard. I just want a big dog that's not super energetic.
Is the dog in the video a Carpathian Shepherd? I have Carpathian Shepherd, is the sweetest dog, but he needs a lot of socialization and training and when I say a lot means a lot, almost all my free time is dedicated to him. When it comes to guarding his territory it is very serious, but I like it, for me it is fine.
Their parents were both working LGDs but because Bo and his sister, Franny were rescues I am not 100% on their lineage. Dad looks mostly GP (but I suspect some Caucasian) and Mom was of Anatolian/Kangal line. Thanks for watching! ✌🏻
Hey, when you walk up to them, or speak to them, and they start to wag their tails, my guess is that they think of themselves in the same affectionate way any "pet" would. As the saying goes; "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
Oh girl i hear ya. Ive had dogs all my life, but this one ,1/2 basenji and a little red healer. Smart, natural born hunt'n dog, very protectiv, loves people, except other dogs. If you have a comment or advice, please let me know. Im moving to NW Wisconsin by the Wisconsin/ Minnasota border, way out in the " Daniel Boon" area. 13 acres in the forrest. Bears,wolves,deer, and turkey and deer. Any advice???
Congrats on your move! Keep that pup close to you and maybe consider a perimeter of hot wire around the area he/she will be loose in- hard to win against wolves 😕 Take care and best of luck to you ✌🏻
I have Anatolians and 100 percent agree. I have been preaching this to people with UA-cam channels promoting them as pets for years. One guy was telling people that Kangals as great house pets even and good for first time dog owners. I have tried to get these people to understand how bad this is for the breeds because they end up in shelters and many getting euthanized. I question any breeders that sell to people who are equipped for these kinds of dog as well.
@@johnpruitt2516 Amen to that my friend! It’s hard to explain what it is about them that’s different than a pet dog, it’s that aloof independence 🤗 thanks for watching! Take care ✌🏻
I have an Anatolian that was abused by the several owners before me who expected a working dog (I’m owner 4). She is afraid of the dark and all she wants is a human to protect her. She is happy being a pet. We roam a lot every day. There are always exceptions to the rule :)
@ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you for loving her! I wouldn’t be surprised if she changes a little once her security is stronger. Building confidence with them is a HUGE part of their success. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
Watching this while my Pyr/Leonberger is laying next to me, on the couch, snoring away. Lol We had an Ovcharka/Pyrenees that almost killed us. We were TERRIFIED. Do your research. TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR TAKE.
Picturing belly up, legs curled up to the chest, upper lip curled back exposing gums 😂😂 Yes, Caucasian Shepherds are a spicy breed! Mine are rescues so I not sure 100% what the bloodline is but I suspect some Caucasian. Thanks for sharing and watching! Take care ✌🏻
I understand that they are working dogs but I still consider them pets. You own them and they have a purpose but their not livestock. So basically there like I said s pet with a specific purpose other than just loving. They are amazing animals and my cousins had 1 when we were kids and we played with them all the time and they pulled our sled up a hill so we didn't have to then he would chase us down the hill. Lots of fun.
They were bred to do a job and that is protect their herd,, that is it.. and that is their purpose they know it and love it.. same as a pulling horse or mule or they love it..
here in our animal shelter are many kangals, 1-2 Owcharkas - why do they have to be there?? Because people think it is a good Idea to own them, and that does not work - specially in a 1-2 room apartment - but because people do not think - all these dogs have to suffer a lot - and there are not many potential owners who are able to give these dogs enough space, and the work that they are breeded for
Ugh, that breaks my heart 💔💔💔 even more so that those breeds are certainly not for a first time dog/LGD owner- very intense breeds! Thank you for sharing and watching. ✌🏻
You are incorrect (partially) about a couple of things though I completely agree with your main premise. are the only reason I have successfully had a pet great Pyrenees for eight years in the suburbs is because I am willing to make it a part-time job because I realize a working dog has needs that must be fulfilled. Most people should not get one as a pet. however they’re primitive double fur coat does help them regulate their temperature so they adapt remarkably well to the heat in Florida where we live also disagree with your idea that they will not protect a human as much as it is livestock as their only flock you become the focus of their protection they do make the most fantastic pet if you know what you’re doing and are willing to put in the work don’t get a working dog unless you’re willing to work lol. And as much as ours loves being outside he also loves being in the house especially when it’s hot and the air conditioning is on full blast lol
@@OffGridDogs very fair opinion! That’s why I wanted to be clear about my statements- that they are based on my own experience and research and that not all 💯 fit in that category! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! Take care ✌🏻
Observant you are 😀 He has a broken toe nail close to the paw on his back left leg so he's been hobbling around. Although I realize they can be prone to displasia I think he still has time on his side (he's 4.5).
Maybe it doesn't keep them cool where you live. But where I am, summers barely crack +30c for more than a week, and winters dip to -40. My LGD will lay out in the full sun and bask in it all summer long and doesn't seem to feel the heat like I do. 😂
I have always had Australian Shepherd’s and they are also working dogs. Not a good dog for an apartment or a small yard. I am a retired person and I keep my dog busy all day until he drops at night.
My experience being around Aussies are they are pretty high energy and absolutely need "something/a job" to do! Sounds like yours is getting the best and that's awesome! Take care and thanks for watching ✌🏻
You are deeply involved in your animals and their behaviour. 👍🏻 But... there are different experiences in these types of dogs. I have lived (not owned) with Caucasian Ovcharkas for a decade+. Currently i live with 2 of which one is a pure military style dog. My experience together with the breeds history show that there are a lot of misconceptions regarding the CO. Earlier i had a flock of goats which they proteted well but was split in protecting me, which then stressed the dogs. I sold the goats and let the dogs be what most of the current available blood lines are bred for: Territorial guarding. And yes the will protect the property and it's owner by literally ripping apart intruders, especially when having more than one dog. (The pack mentality kicks in and reinforces their protective instincs.) Now people will have questions.😮!?😮 Yes, many Ovcharkas will function as live stock guardians due to the fact that they originates from LGD dogs. These lines are called Aboriginal Caucasian Ovcharkas. These pure lines are rare in the West. A better LGD choice would be the Central Asian Ovcharka (CAO), Anatolian Shepherd, Gampr or Kangal. Most of the Ovcharkas today originates from the dog lines that the Russian military took from the mountains in the Caucasus Mountains (in Georgia). These went to extensive breeding programs in the Russian Red Star kennel. The aim was selective breeding for military purposes. (Human aggressive territorial guard dog.) Several 1000's was placed at the Berlin Wall for border guard duties. When the wall fell in 1989 these dogs were suddenly "unemployed". Many was eutenised due to their ferrocious temperament while many dogs was scattered around Europe as guard dogs. These lines has thereafter been crossbred with so called "family" Ovcharkas (today sometimes called show line dogs) and Aboriginal Ovcharkas. (The "family" lines are dogs rejected for military breeding due to "softer" temperament and was given to people wanting a guard dog for property/homes in Russia) The result is that in many litters there will be one or more puppies that will display the temperament of the military dog lines: One person dog with ferrocious temperament with almost no delay before physically attacking. These lines are usually more obidient and soft towards the owner. Most people can't handle this temperament and require an experienced responsible owner with a strong natural leadership instincts. At the same time most kennels avoid breeding these lines because the difficulties to find suitable owners and therefore the Ovcharka lines has soften the past decade. The Caucasian Ovcharka is a fantastic dog for the right owner under right circumstances and it brings a lot of joy and a total peace of mind as long as it has a meaningful work to do. (A large well fenced property to guard) /My personal observations and experience studying and living full time with the breed. My network of Ovcharka owner share similar experiences.
Wow! What a fantastic comment! For some reason I didn’t get the notification and am just seeing this. I really appreciated reading this!! Thank you so much for sharing. This actually may have answered something that had happened and I have struggled with for 3 years now. Thank you for watching and sharing!! Take care ✌🏻
@@cynthiaamitrano8915 haha yeah I had a laugh about Turkey Dude pacing in the background 😆 Yes, Bo’s coat and markings lead me to suspect they may have some Caucasian Shepherd in their bloodline. Thanks for watching ✌🏻
We have a Texas healer, also not a pet just a tool. He is a great dog but bad pet. Australia shepherd great pet blue healer great pet put them together and all you get is a work tool like a tractor, screwdriver, or hammer. He is cute
@@fairwind8222 Knowing the specific needs of a dog based on genetics is important. Even some pets can have certain requirements based off their bloodline. Thanks for watching! ✌🏻
They’re actually living a very fulfilling life! Doing what a dog does best and loves to do!
@@cherylj7460 Absolutely 💯 Thanks for watching ✌🏻
Our LGD's bark lulls me right to sleep! I feel a lot of contentment knowing he's out there protecting the herd ❤ thank you for this!
I know that bark lol! They have a few different ones but there is one, particularly from Bo, that reminds me of him almost talking to the night 🤗 Thanks for watching and commenting!! Take care ✌🏻
My Great Pyr is amazing! She weights 140 lbs and adores her job. She loves wintertime and turns into a huge puppy bouncing around everywhere! She sleeps most of the day so she can stay awake all night long patrolling her farm. She has free rein of our farm and loves her people, chickens, cats, and horses. There have been many instances where wild turkey and deer have hovered around our place just so they can have her protection from predators. I think I will never ever have any other dog but a Great Pyrenese from now on. They are absolutely wonderful.
On point
Your video needs to be watched by millions. Everything you said is 100% accurate. I am shocked. You "get it".
Growing up I spent summers on my grandmother's dairy farm until I was 10. She had a working dog named Duke. He was a rough collie. Duke's job was to corral and protect on the cattle and their calves from coyotes. He also protected the chickens. He would never let us go into the woods alone and would always be on the lookout. Then, he would lead us back home through the woods. I could tell Duke, where are the chickens? He'd run to the chicken barn and check them out, then look at me with an expression saying, they are fine. He would never step foot in my grandmother's home and always lived outside. No one ever put a leash on him. I saw that a dog at its happiest is a noble being with a cause, responsibilities and gravitas, like Duke had. Since then, I have never wanted a dog at home, castrated, on a leash, frustrated.
Sounds like Duke lived his best life 🤗 Thanks for watching and sharing your story ✌🏻
@@joey_the_farmdawg Thanks for reading Duke's story! You would understand. A dog is a different being being on a farm, with a mission. So here are a couple more stories about Duke. The coyotes would come close to the farm and at night, I could hear Duke warning them to stay away. I could see him out there at night, standing, waiting for the coyotes. My grandmother said that sometimes he ran with them. He knew her voice commands to go round up the cows and bring them in. They'd normally come on their own but there would be a stray or two who would wander off. One of Duke's loved to go out and find a stray cow with us. He'd be all excited when we set off. This was also one of my own best memories of that farm, wandering around looking for cows that went on walk about, often in the rain (the farm was in Washington state). To this day one of my favorite poems is this one and I always think of Duke and those stray cows when I read it.
The Lost Heifer (Austin Clarke)
When the herds of the rain were grazing
In the gap of the pure cold wind
And the watery hazes of the hazel
Brought her into my mind,
I thought of the last honey by the water
That no hive can find.
Brightness was drenching through the branches
When she wandered again,
Turning the silver out of dark grasses
Where the skylark had lain,
And her voice coming softly over the meadow
Was the mist becoming rain.
I just love the turkey in the background. Great video.
Yeah they are pretty hilarious! Thanks for watching and take care ✌🏻
I had a giant Pyr up in the mountains of Colorado. Amazing dog on so many levels but my neighbor used to call me in tears about the barking. That SOB would bark at leaves falling to the ground. WOOOooo….WOOOOOO…….WOOWOOWOOWOOwoooo…..like a metronome.
@@danielgabalski2312 😂😂 yes the barking can be out of control sometimes but I have learned as excessive as it may seem, usually there is a reason! Usually when they’re young they will bark out of insecurity and as they mature it becomes more fine-tuned.
I was relieved at your last statement - love them! How could you not?
I have had Franny since she was a week old. I love them probably more than a pet 😉✌🏻 Thanks for watching!!
"They are always alert" as the dog yawns next to her.😂
Don’t be fooled, they go 0 to 60 in a second.
Haha, we couldn't have planned it better 😂😂 they may seem sleepy but they are always "aware" of their surroundings. Thanks for watching! ✌🏻
Oh yeaaaaah 😎
Im so happy you are raising awareness. So many people buy dogs because they are pretty and lock them up in a house. 1 hour walking around the neighborhood is not a life for these working dogs. Much luv 💗
Absolutely 🙌🏻💯 thanks for watching ✌🏻
I have said this so many times in my working dog group whenever someone says “He still wants to play after a 3-mile walk.” We have Heelers, and they need exhaustive play to be great pets if they don’t have a job. A walk is NOT enough. 🐶♥️
Great video 👍. We have 2 Caucasian Ovcharkas. Our female is 9 years old and our male is almost a year and a half. They have 2 totally different personalities. Our girl has always been on the lazy side and our boy can get crazy from time to time. We have socialized them since they were pups. It is a lot of work but so worth it. Livestock guardian/protection dogs are definitely not for everyone. People need to do their research before adopting any type of dog breed, but especially when it comes to these powerful independent breeds. We love our giant fluffy babies ❤
@@nicolemcdaniel2260 Caucasians are definitely one to know exactly what you’re getting into! Good to hear you worked on socializing them- it’s important for being able to take them to the vet and other things like that. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience ✌🏻😊
My boy, Alabai/Malakli, is a true 36" at the withers and 220 lb hulk of muscle. He has perhaps the best work ethic of any k9 or person I have met. Not the job normally associated for LGD, but he excels and stays busy which he loves. Actually a quiet boy, but when he alerts everyone in the county knows it. Great video!
Sounds like a good boy! Wow 220 lbs 😲 Take care and thanks for watching ☺️✌🏻
People in the city shouldn't get working dogs unless they can give them the jobs, exercise, and stimulation that they NEED. Such an important message. Research the breed, know your lifestyle and make sure your dog fits in it.
Absolutely 💯 Thanks for watching ✌🏻
The turkey walking around like he owns the place 😂😂
😂😂 That's Turkey Dude, he's my front gate security officer 😂 Thanks for watching ✌🏻
Only noticed from your comment but yeah sure was strutting 😂😂😂
I have a 168 pound Great Pyrenees. He dug up my yard and I was sued by my HOA. I bought a place in the mountains that is steps away from a National Forest. When dusk comes, the coyotes start up. There are also bears and deers. He guards all night long and LOVES IT. I have 2 acres fenced in for him but it is literally a stones throw from the Forest. It gets down to 10 degrees and wants to be outside. It is also much much cooler. He is does not dig anymore. He sleeps in his huge bed during the day with me and my other pack and then he guards all night. More than 10 times I have said to my BF - CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING THIS DOG IN AN APARTMENT??? I write all this to say: You are 100% right. 💯🩷. Edit: I want to add, I *NEVER* would get a GP. Someone threw him out at my house and I took him in. He is so smart that I believe it is like a super hero.
@@SiberiaDreams that’s so beautiful what you did for him! Mine were rescues and literally changed my life and where I lived too! Thanks for sharing your story ✌🏻❤️
Hope you sold that house. HOA’s are another layer of government.
@@07negative56 Oh yes. Sadly I lost some money but it was insane. Retired old men who would walk around the neighborhood and take notes on your property - what they perceived as wrong. It was a nightmare.
I too once bought in a HOA. After interviewing board’s members. All claimed to be conservatives. But they laid out the basic “Do’s & Do Not’s.” Said nothing I couldn’t have fruit trees. Fined me for fruit trees. I put it on market in 2 weeks. HOA’s are horrible!
I even looked at one in Arkansas. They had a rule. No homes less than 3,000 sqft.
@@07negative56 It is truly a nightmare. I will *NEVER* again. Yes, my HOA would not allow...gardens! You could not have a garden.
Excellent video! To call these dogs a mere pet would be an insult to them, they are a working partner and a management system. In proper use you get very attached to them, even when you do have to make allowances for their management techniques learning that if you do it their way everything will be alive in the morning. I have even seen one move an older lamb away from a fresh set of twins, without disturbing the ewe or the newborns then quietly walk away (couldn't have done it better myself, would have missed it if I hadn't been looking out of the window).
@@jeanettegray7462 wow that’s an incredible opportunity to witness that! Lucky you! They never cease to amaze me with their independence and intelligence. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
We knew some neighbors and ahe said. Do not pet my great Pyrenees. They are working. Dogs she also warned neighbors to keep their dogs out of her fields because I he dogs would kill them .
Oh, they definitely won't guard against people, that's for sure! My sweet girl never barks when someone comes and instead runs behind the house to hide. 🤣 She is one of the most timid dogs I've ever seen, but takes protecting her charges seriously against any animal threat. She really is the happiest with her goats, birds, and cats, I can't imagine having her inside.
Awe, yours sounds like a sweetheart 🤗 Thanks for sharing! ✌🏻
They are another gentle giant with God given purposes that need to be attained 🐾🐾
The same thing happens with Estrela moutain dogs, they are dogs that only attack as a last resort, they know how strong they are. In many years, none have ever jumped on my chest without me telling them to, they know it is an attack position, even though it is an act of affection for most dogs.
@@joycelima3051 wish Bo knew that. He has a tendency to get up on me sometimes but I think it’s because he wants to inspect me or smell my face- like making sure everything is ok 🤗 Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences ✌🏻
I got a marrema to be an urban guard dog. Unfortunately she's the friendliest dog on the block if not the town. She is a perfect dog for nursing home visits and needs to be around people, especially new people.
Totally agree...except with the claim that there are 1000s of Great Pyrenees in shelters
Met one while I was walking the Camino de Santiago in Spain. He was a Dehesa dog and about one year old. I had to cross his land. Before we met, I saw him biting into a bike tire, just for fun. Afterwards he sat in front of me and waited, if sth interesting might happen. I calmly asked him for permission to cross his land and after I asked, he just walked away. I am 6ft4 and around 260lbs and was brought up with dogs, but until I realized his age, I really peed my pants.
@@Robjay1795 😂😂 sounds like an experience you’ll never forget! Thanks for sharing and watching ✌🏻
@@joey_the_farmdawg It was a Mastín Español. They grow up to 90Kg (about 200lbs) . An absolute beast, but that one just wanted to have some fun.😂
Beautiful!
Different breeds, lineages of breeds, need thoughtful intention, true herding breeds need a job. Please match your individual environment to these details ..great video....having a mismatched dog is cruel, having intention to the best fit is real love for these wonderful creatures.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video! Working dogs can be hard to explain to (and understood) by individuals who have never been exposed to them. ☺️
This is great! It's 10PM now while I'm watching this and my Fluffy (Pyre/Border Collie mix) is out in the backyard barking at the moon! And I love him, I am his pet!
@@JeffpRRR666 Awe 🤗 Yes, I’d imagine with that combo of genetics you’d have to be his pet 😂 Thanks for watching, take care ✌🏻☺️
A couple of Pyrenees mauled a lady who was bicycling and got between them and their sheep. I can understand the needs for them to be working dogs, but there are dogs who need to be socialized with other dogs and people or they will be aggressive and maul humans, even children. If you watch Seanthesheepman, Sean let's his 3 BCs be working dogs, but they're also loving dogs. Our BC JackBNimble was not a livestock dog and had no sheep-or cattle ( some of his relatives herded cattle too in North Ga,), yet he had a thick double coat like his daddy Andy because my brother kept him outside and he never got to come inside the house. He could sleep on the deck with snow falling about him, but he did have an Igloo doghouse and a doggie door that he could enter into his crate inside the garage if the weather got really bad and his girlfriend, LittleBoPeep had one litter before she got spayed. When his mother Tess Siobhan died, he came to stay with me and BoPeep's cousin/ BFF my Gypsy Rose Lee and gave her 4 girls and 2 boys as we before we spayed her too After this first litter. Most of the pups went to farms, but a few were trained as service dogs for those with CP, Epilepsy, Diabetes (Tess learned to alert me to my Diabetic² highs and lows in her own somehow), and other disabilities-like PTSD or Autistic Sprectrum Disorder-etc.
You’re right, they are not pets. They’re family!
Thank you for sharing your video.
Over the years, my LGDs have been Maremmas and a Kangal.
My farm shares the territories of a cougar, a pack of wolves, the occasional bear, various raptors and owls, martens, weasels, foxes, skunks, and lynx.
I bought my first three Maremmas 13 years ago.
Before then, the coyotes were literally coming up to the kitchen door trying to get my cats - they managed to snag two. I lost one cat to a Great Horned Owl. Hawks were harassing the chickens. The cougar was scoping out the horses.
Once the Trinity was established and were old enough to be let out to deal with the predators, they quickly set the them straight.
With the exception of losing one gander to the cougar - managed to snag him from behind the horse trailer before the dogs knew she was there - I have not lost any cats or livestock to predation.
And people coming onto the property in my absence also stopped.
But dogs do age, some get injured. They die. New pups take their place.
I lost the oldest of the original Trinity two years ago. My new Maremma, whom I got as a pup, just turned two and has just reached the turning point where he now understands that the chickens are not chew toys and that he has a job to do.
And he now takes his job seriously.
Soon, I can bring in a pup for him to teach.
Over the years, each one of my dogs has been loyal to me, has physically stood between me and many a perceived threat in the darkness and, yes, at least one or another watched over me whenever I ventured out in the pastures or walk the fence lines whilst the rest watched the livestock. I do believe they thought I was one of the goats.
Sometimes we played, I gave them their milk bone treats before shutting the farm down for the night, I sat with them and enjoyed a moment of relaxation watching the animals with them on a lazy summer afternoon between chores. They hated being groomed, but they let me brush the burrs out of their coats. Going into the house is the last thing they wanted. They preferred the snow.
But they were not pets. They never were.
Just as my young boy, who insists on playing fetch, and racing up and do down the driveway and lane playing his form of tag with me, and shadowing me when I am doing my chores, is not a pet.
They all were, and still are, working dogs first.
@@miraleatardiff8543 Wow, what a great comment! You sure do have a heavy predator load where you are! We have tons of coyotes and our area is known as grizzly bear alley and lots of hawks and bald eagles. They sure are amazing at what they do. I had 3 at once and may try to tell that story if I can get through it without crying too much 😔 Thanks so much for commenting and watching. Take care ✌🏻
Just say thanks to all the people preserving our amazing working line dogs, they are specific bread for the traits needed for their job .... they are not your average fur-baby.
Certain dog breeds are not meant to be inside cuddling with you. Maybe sometimes when they get old then they might enjoy being house dogs. When my Border Collie/Lab was young she liked being outside with us. She herded the chickens & the kids. Now she is older she does not like being outside for more than a few minutes. She still points out the scent paths of rats, skunk or whatever because it’s her instinct.
The turkey in the background😄
@@heathermccue66 😂🤣😂 Gotta Love Turkey Dude 🤗 Take care ✌🏻
My Caucasian Shepherd bitch, rescued from Romania at age of 5 and in a rescue centre in the UK, was a perfect pet and friend to me for 5 years. Fortunately, I have more knowledge about dogs than you and, looking for a new pet, I brought her home. It is incorrect and unfair to generalise and say livestock guardians are not pets. Many many livestock guardians are indeed wonderful, loved pets and living their best lives. Your first mistake is stating simply "livestock guardians" There are a number of lsg breeds, each with different instincts, temperaments and needs. You keep just 2 as working dogs and specify that you speak from your own experience only. Your knowledge is therefore very limited and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing resulting in spreading misleading information. Some information you are giving is totally incorrect. There are livestock guardians in rescue centres, desperately needing homes and they could now be passed by because of the misinformation in your video. Please take a critical look at your video and think about changing, or removing it.
Working dogs will always have a job. If its not doing what their bred to do, its gonna be wrecking your house and driving you crazy
@@plastikloser 😂😂 absolutely correct! When they get bored they get destructive! Thanks for watching ✌🏻
CUDDLE BUG 😍!! Animals are so much more fun to be around than people! The name literally says this is a dog who needs a job. This is a dog with a purpose and must be able to work. I would be so rich if I could figure out how to bottle common sense.
You mentioned German Shepherds. They, historically, were herding/guardian dogs. They’re intelligence and need for enrichment is what makes them so great as military, law enforcement employees and family members. Being a family member is a job!!!! Takes work!!!!
I grew up with LSG and herding dogs. Border Collies, Aussies, Queensland Heelers, Great Pyrenees, Anatolian Shepards, etc. They all had their talents, individual jobs with one common goal. They make wonderful family members. Yes they do!
I get what message you’re trying to convey. It would be more accurate to say that LSG dogs make wonderful companions but your lifestyle and their needs should be compatible.
My 8 year old, darling, 65 pound Aussie has a HUGE job and that job is me! And she’s all in!!!! *yes! That’s big for an AS but she’s lean* I can’t get up to go to the restroom without her jumping up to see what’s next. She lacks the concept of personal space. 🙄🤭 Got her when she was three months and we are always together. If she’s not welcome, then neither am I. Super high energy! Needs to bust ass for about four straight hours. Then sleeps on the foot of my bed in between. Always at the ready this one! Luckily, I work on a ranch so there’s plenty of individuals for her to invade their personal space with gentle, kind love while I’m working with the equines. She’s wonderful!!!!🥰
It’s time to get her a baby brother or sister though. I’m getting older and not as into intense wilderness activities and convincing magnificent creatures that could end me with one kick that everything that we do together is their idea! Love and trust! I’m thinking Corgi. The swinging hips in a more manageable size!!!!
I have never had a GSD but I do understand they have a very high prey drive and need A LOT of exercise and thrive off of commands. So happy your girl found the perfect life for her and you! Thanks for watching and sharing! Take care ☺️✌🏻
That's right, these dogs are not four legged children. They are very reliable friends and alies. Equal, not dependent.
Yep. Family members of mine got an LGD because they thought they were cute and fluffy. They lived in a residential neighborhood. When it was inside, it was in their laundry room. When it was outside it was tethered. Ending up biting someone and they gave it away 🙄
Oh that’s too bad to hear. Sounds like a set up for failure from the start. 😔 Thanks for watching and take care ✌🏻
He's a sweetheart ❤❤❤
From a groomers perspective on their coat.
Technically yes dog fur has the ability to insulate from the heat and the cold. They go through cycles where they basically blow coat and grow in a specific kind of coat for the summer vs the winter. Often times a dog with a coat like this will have a very thin undercoat in the summer. HOWEVER these breeds are not bred specifically for hot weather and it would be cruel to keep them in hotter climates. There are limits to their coat because they were bred for the cold. Also, you HAVE to brush them out when they blow their coat or their coat cannot function properly in order to maintain their temperature and can overheat in the summer. Also worth noting DO NOT SHAVE THEM. I know that this owner knows that but the coat functions as more than just temperature regulation. It is also to help keep dirt and debris off them and protect from the sun. If it is shaved it will destroy the function of the coat. Sometimes it can be grown back like normal but it is a shock to their hair growth system (its in their skin and the skin is an organ) and is really taxing to grow it all back and might not ever function the same if it does.
@@Hi_Im_Akward Great advice! And yes I never plan on shaving mine- their coats are so ✨magical✨ the dirt comes right off 🤗 Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
Well done. You made a great point about how so many dogs end up in shelters because of owner's poor choices. From a shelter volunteer . . thank you.
@@pec757 Thank you and thanks for watching!! ✌🏻☺️
Great video, I agree with you with the caveat that there are numerous examples of homeowners having LGDs and very successfully using them for property protection and personal protection in both urban and suburban environments. It comes down to having the knowledge and experience and understanding of LGD breeds in general and choosing the right breeds (mostly the ones that still remain land race breeds) that have a long history of use both as LGDs and property/human guardians.
Very fair opinion! Like I mentioned, they don't all fit into one set definition and there are exceptions. Thanks for sharing and watching! Take care ✌🏻
never understood how double coats insulate from heat considering the body generates heat and coats keep that trapped. plus animals shed in summer.
I don’t either. Doubt it but maybe it’s possible 😆 Thanks for watching. Happy New Year ✌🏻
Great info. Aloha from Hawaii 🤙🏽
@@danielbadiang3817 Aloha ✌🏻
yes, in their countries of origin, this kind of dogs were used as protectors of animals and respectively of the people who took care of those animals, their purpose was both to warn shepherds and to fight with predators if necessary
@@ciui12 Absolutely, even though they are not traveling countryside we still need to remember to be their shepherd 🤗 thanks for watching ✌🏻
So funny the dog yawned right after you said they get bored.
Haha 😆
If you want a giant breed for a,pet, buy a Mastiff. We’ve had three and they are fantastic pets. Be prepared though, they are expensive because they eat about 12 cups of food a day and when they need vet care, hang on, since most vet care is based on weight and Mastiff are the largest dog in the world-our male was 230 and females were 190 and 170. Also, they don’t love long, like most Giant breeds. Our all died in their 8th year, which is so hard because you get so attached to them.
I couldn't believe it had taken so long to figure out that dogs and cats are not experiencing our affection the way we think. I think they are meant to respond to people who are not seeing them as "pets" or a plaything/curiousity toy. It comes down to living in a society which is very distracted and out of touch with itself, there will be little healthy interaction with animals.
@@davidm1149 The timing of your comment is perfect! My next video is going to explore this! Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts ✌🏻
A great video, very well spoken. Your experience shines through. Many working dogs can be pack family members too. Having a job is a good thing. Live long and prosper.
Thanks and I agree! Thanks for watching ✌🏻
Thanks for the video. I grew up on a wheat and sheep farm and we had a number of working dogs (sheep/cattle dogs, not LGDs). I see the same problem with Kelpies and Heelers coming into our rescue because they needed "a job" and misbehaved. Glad your dogs are living their best life doing what they were born to do.
@@matthewvelo It’s sad to see any dog in a shelter and very frustrating when it’s because they weren’t provided the right environment to thrive 😕 thanks for your comment and for watching ✌🏻
My neighbor had 2 huskies that would howl for hours when they wernt home. Ftp
Sounds like they needed a sled to pull 😂😂
Can I still hug ‘‘em and squeeze ‘em?
@@michaelderose397 oh trust me, they get a lot of hugs and squeezes 😆 They have the smooshiest necks 🤗 thanks for watching ✌🏻
Great question.
Bravo for the excellent explanation of the different breeds of dogs and their natural
genetic traits.
@@jeffreybishop9478 Thank you and thanks for watching! ✌🏻
If they don't feed themselves or hunt for their own food their pets or there slaves that work for you, and I know you live them as we all do, dogs do need a job to do no matter where you live
That view though @5:43. Aaaa-mazing!
@@lisameriedy 🤩🤩🤩
100% agree. Even with more PETLIKE dogs we are not honouring them by treating them as little toys. Research the breed you want and if you can't commit to their physical and mental needs then move on and get a dog that suits your lifestyle. Hey I'd love a belgian malionois but I'm no where near capable of working that breed. So i have a mutt. He's happy with morning walk 2 hours, sniffing around in the afternoon and watching me clean. Then 1 hour at night and some fetch or hiding and go find it... got to love the dog for who they are.
You make a great point! Yes, most dogs (even mutts) have genetics from working dogs. Malionois seem to be a lot of work so sounds like you found what works best for you. Thanks for sharing and watching ☺️✌🏻
@@joey_the_farmdawg thanks for your reply. I make sure to include activities that may be from breeds in the mix, like digging, herding, searching etc. Great channel.
@@marietighe6328 Excellent! Thank you!!
My grand father used German shepherds for for livestock protection and farm security on a cattle farm. Never had any problems cause the dogs were on duty !
That’s awesome 🤩 Thanks for watching ✌🏻
The fact you have to apologize for your working dogs to a bunch of over domesticated, kakapo humans that have undergone island syndrome is inverted. People who sit at a desk drinking coffee all day are not entitled to an explanation from anyone who works out in the elements as our agrarian ancestors. As long as you treat them fairly, respect them and have their health and welfare covered you’re good.
We once thought getting working line Rottweilers for pets was a good idea, it wasn’t. Luckily we had two acres of space, a relatively harsh climate during winter (which they prefer) and I was in my late teens that I spent time doing physical activity with them daily. Dogs, whilst they seem to adapt to laying around the house all day are happier doing something. Feed them the best food, be fair, and give them something to do and they’ll live a fulfilled life.
Hi Bow, first time watching u. I agree…working dogs need to do a job…people need to read a book. Learn what each dog needs.
Yes. It’s a common mistake unfortunately. Thank you for watching! Take care ✌🏻
You’re right there not pets dangerous guard working dogs and they love it 👍👍👍👍
@@ivanracine431 thanks for watching! ✌🏻
Hey guys, sorry about the audio. It was raining and it threw off the noise reduction feature on my editing app. Good news is, lav mics are on the way 🙌🏻 Thank you so much for watching ✌🏻❤️
Hallo, ich sehe Dein Video und bin absolut begeistert. Der Ton ist absolut unwichtig, das Video ist so wertvoll, da interessiert kein Ton so lange man Dich versteht und man versteht Dich gut. Mir sind diese Fakten sehr wohl bekannt, deshalb habe ich auch keinen solchen Hund obwohl ich sie liebe und bewundere. Eine russische Züchterin hat mir damals 1 Stunde lang erklärt, weshalb ich es nicht tun soll, obwohl wir Garten und Haus haben und ich 24h für den Hund da bin. Dein Video sollte Pflichtvideo für alle Züchter und vor allem Tierheime werden, dort werden solche Hunde oftmals an Menschen vermittelt , bei denen mal genau weiß, dass Deine Argument NICHT beachtet werden. Furchtbar so viel Ignoranz . Tausend Dank im Namen aller Herdenschutzhunde.
This is a good video! Thank you
@@theElvenPig TY ☺️✌🏻
Most ranchers have working dogs and cats. They also have pet dogs and a house cat. 2 completely different species of the same animals.
@@hrb2358 Good point with the cats! Those ferals are nothing like a house cat 😹 thanks for watching ✌🏻
What breed is the smaller one? Is there any Chihuahua there? Would maybe be a mix but I think I see Chi in the face. Yes, the smallest can be the most aggressive and protective. Unfortunately while they bring it, they don't bring much. Great alerters though
@@tscully1504 The small dog is Joey and his mom is some sort of terrier mix (I suspect mostly rat) and his dad is supposedly a corgi but I think he looks more like a chi-weenie maybe mixed with some corgi 🤭
@@joey_the_farmdawg Ah ok, the Rat Terrier makes sense. I wasn't familiar with the breed but see they are similar to Chis in the face but have a short tail like yours. They sound like similar temperments too. Long lifespans as well, like Chis, which I find ironic that the most high strung apparently thrive on stress. :D
@ The nub of a tail is rat terrier and Joey looooves to get them! He is very bossy and not what you would call a snuggly dog so I’m sure he’ll be around for quite some time torturing the cats 😂
I adopted a 4 year old Golden Retriever Great Pyrenees. I would say he had more Golden in him. He was our 4 legged child. My neighbor is a lot younger and can walk miles so I have him walk Emmett for me to get a good walking in. Emmett would get excited when my neighbor would come over because he knew he was going for a good walk. Sadly, at 10, he died of cancer. It was all of sudden.
Awe 🤗 So heartbreaking to lose them 😢 Thank you for watching and sharing your story ✌🏻
@ : You are welcome. It has been 2 years that Emmett died. We are at that age now that it questionable whether to get another dog or not. It would be a rescue dog again probably 4 to 7 years old and a lot smaller. We do have a indoor cat that lived with Emmett so the next dog would have to be cat friendly.
I've always wanted a Great Pyrenees or a Maremma Sheepdog. Unfortunately, I don't have a farm and never will, and I just don't think it would be ethical for me to have such a dog given the lazy/beach/travel lifestyle I live. Maybe I'll get a St. Bernard. I just want a big dog that's not super energetic.
Hope you find what you're looking for! Thanks for sharing and watching ✌🏻
Yeah you're are right. Thanks for the video.
@@quiz-blasters227 thanks for watching!! ✌🏻☺️
Weird, I made an additional comment earlier but don't see it. I may have forgot to hit send LOL. The GP dogs are perfect farm dogs!
Is the dog in the video a Carpathian Shepherd? I have Carpathian Shepherd, is the sweetest dog, but he needs a lot of socialization and training and when I say a lot means a lot, almost all my free time is dedicated to him. When it comes to guarding his territory it is very serious, but I like it, for me it is fine.
Their parents were both working LGDs but because Bo and his sister, Franny were rescues I am not 100% on their lineage. Dad looks mostly GP (but I suspect some Caucasian) and Mom was of Anatolian/Kangal line. Thanks for watching! ✌🏻
Hey, when you walk up to them, or speak to them, and they start to wag their tails, my guess is that they think of themselves in the same affectionate way any "pet" would. As the saying goes; "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
@@edprotas4148 they get baby talked to all the time 🤭🤭 thanks for watching! ✌🏻
The same goes for their relatively less known cousins - the Tatra mountain Shepherd dogs
Absolutely! Thanks for watching 🤗
Perfect pet for your horses. 😊❤
Oh girl i hear ya. Ive had dogs all my life, but this one ,1/2 basenji and a little red healer. Smart, natural born hunt'n dog, very protectiv, loves people, except other dogs. If you have a comment or advice, please let me know. Im moving to NW Wisconsin by the Wisconsin/ Minnasota border, way out in the " Daniel
Boon" area.
13 acres in the forrest.
Bears,wolves,deer, and turkey and deer. Any advice???
Congrats on your move! Keep that pup close to you and maybe consider a perimeter of hot wire around the area he/she will be loose in- hard to win against wolves 😕 Take care and best of luck to you ✌🏻
I have Anatolians and 100 percent agree. I have been preaching this to people with UA-cam channels promoting them as pets for years. One guy was telling people that Kangals as great house pets even and good for first time dog owners. I have tried to get these people to understand how bad this is for the breeds because they end up in shelters and many getting euthanized. I question any breeders that sell to people who are equipped for these kinds of dog as well.
@@johnpruitt2516 Amen to that my friend! It’s hard to explain what it is about them that’s different than a pet dog, it’s that aloof independence 🤗 thanks for watching! Take care ✌🏻
I have an Anatolian that was abused by the several owners before me who expected a working dog (I’m owner 4). She is afraid of the dark and all she wants is a human to protect her. She is happy being a pet. We roam a lot every day. There are always exceptions to the rule :)
@ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you for loving her! I wouldn’t be surprised if she changes a little once her security is stronger. Building confidence with them is a HUGE part of their success. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
Lost me with the stank sounds, we love our pets 🏆
And respect what they are don’t try to train the instinct out of the dog!
@@fairwind8222 💯 agree 👍🏻
I wish I could love my job like how they love to work 😅
😂😂 thanks for watching ✌🏻
Watching this while my Pyr/Leonberger is laying next to me, on the couch, snoring away. Lol We had an Ovcharka/Pyrenees that almost killed us. We were TERRIFIED. Do your research. TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR TAKE.
Picturing belly up, legs curled up to the chest, upper lip curled back exposing gums 😂😂 Yes, Caucasian Shepherds are a spicy breed! Mine are rescues so I not sure 100% what the bloodline is but I suspect some Caucasian. Thanks for sharing and watching! Take care ✌🏻
I understand that they are working dogs but I still consider them pets. You own them and they have a purpose but their not livestock. So basically there like I said s pet with a specific purpose other than just loving. They are amazing animals and my cousins had 1 when we were kids and we played with them all the time and they pulled our sled up a hill so we didn't have to then he would chase us down the hill. Lots of fun.
I love that way of describing them because they are very special to me 🤗 Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! Take care ✌🏻
They were bred to do a job and that is protect their herd,, that is it.. and that is their purpose they know it and love it.. same as a pulling horse or mule or they love it..
here in our animal shelter are many kangals, 1-2 Owcharkas - why do they have to be there?? Because people think it is a good Idea to own them, and that does not work - specially in a 1-2 room apartment - but because people do not think - all these dogs have to suffer a lot - and there are not many potential owners who are able to give these dogs enough space, and the work that they are breeded for
Ugh, that breaks my heart 💔💔💔 even more so that those breeds are certainly not for a first time dog/LGD owner- very intense breeds! Thank you for sharing and watching. ✌🏻
You are incorrect (partially) about a couple of things though I completely agree with your main premise. are the only reason I have successfully had a pet great Pyrenees for eight years in the suburbs is because I am willing to make it a part-time job because I realize a working dog has needs that must be fulfilled. Most people should not get one as a pet. however they’re primitive double fur coat does help them regulate their temperature so they adapt remarkably well to the heat in Florida where we live also disagree with your idea that they will not protect a human as much as it is livestock as their only flock you become the focus of their protection they do make the most fantastic pet if you know what you’re doing and are willing to put in the work don’t get a working dog unless you’re willing to work lol. And as much as ours loves being outside he also loves being in the house especially when it’s hot and the air conditioning is on full blast lol
@@OffGridDogs very fair opinion! That’s why I wanted to be clear about my statements- that they are based on my own experience and research and that not all 💯 fit in that category! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! Take care ✌🏻
you ever have it in the snow and cold and see how he or she reacts?
@ loves it gets Frisky
Looks like his rear hips are going out
Observant you are 😀 He has a broken toe nail close to the paw on his back left leg so he's been hobbling around. Although I realize they can be prone to displasia I think he still has time on his side (he's 4.5).
Maybe it doesn't keep them cool where you live. But where I am, summers barely crack +30c for more than a week, and winters dip to -40. My LGD will lay out in the full sun and bask in it all summer long and doesn't seem to feel the heat like I do. 😂
I have always had Australian Shepherd’s and they are also working dogs. Not a good dog for an apartment or a small yard. I am a retired person and I keep my dog busy all day until he drops at night.
My experience being around Aussies are they are pretty high energy and absolutely need "something/a job" to do! Sounds like yours is getting the best and that's awesome! Take care and thanks for watching ✌🏻
Livestock guardian dogs are bred as working dogs. The day is for sleeping and dusk is start of their shifts. They will insist on sleeping outside.
They always want to know what's going on and can't do it inside the house 😂 Thanks for watching ✌🏻
Very interesting a good overview of there job.
@@robertgoppelt5157 Thank you!! Hope you enjoyed it and thanks for watching! ✌🏻☺️
These dogs are so cool...
Thank you!! I love them so much 🤗 Thanks for watching ✌🏻
You are deeply involved in your animals and their behaviour. 👍🏻
But... there are different experiences in these types of dogs.
I have lived (not owned) with Caucasian Ovcharkas for a decade+.
Currently i live with 2 of which one is a pure military style dog.
My experience together with the breeds history show that there are a lot of misconceptions regarding the CO.
Earlier i had a flock of goats which they proteted well but was split in protecting me, which then stressed the dogs.
I sold the goats and let the dogs be what most of the current available blood lines are bred for:
Territorial guarding.
And yes the will protect the property and it's owner by literally ripping apart intruders, especially when having more than one dog.
(The pack mentality kicks in and reinforces their protective instincs.)
Now people will have questions.😮!?😮
Yes, many Ovcharkas will function as live stock guardians due to the fact that they originates from LGD dogs.
These lines are called Aboriginal Caucasian Ovcharkas.
These pure lines are rare in the West.
A better LGD choice would be the Central Asian Ovcharka (CAO), Anatolian Shepherd, Gampr or Kangal.
Most of the Ovcharkas today originates from the dog lines that the Russian military took from the mountains in the Caucasus Mountains (in Georgia).
These went to extensive breeding programs in the Russian Red Star kennel.
The aim was selective breeding for military purposes.
(Human aggressive territorial guard dog.)
Several 1000's was placed at the Berlin Wall for border guard duties.
When the wall fell in 1989 these dogs were suddenly "unemployed".
Many was eutenised due to their ferrocious temperament while many dogs was scattered around Europe as guard dogs.
These lines has thereafter been crossbred with so called "family" Ovcharkas (today sometimes called show line dogs) and Aboriginal Ovcharkas.
(The "family" lines are dogs rejected for military breeding due to "softer" temperament and was given to people wanting a guard dog for property/homes in Russia)
The result is that in many litters there will be one or more puppies that will display the temperament of the military dog lines:
One person dog with ferrocious temperament with almost no delay before physically attacking.
These lines are usually more obidient and soft towards the owner.
Most people can't handle this temperament and require an experienced responsible owner with a strong natural leadership instincts.
At the same time most kennels avoid breeding these lines because the difficulties to find suitable owners and therefore the Ovcharka lines has soften the past decade.
The Caucasian Ovcharka is a fantastic dog for the right owner under right circumstances and it brings a lot of joy and a total peace of mind as long as it has a meaningful work to do.
(A large well fenced property to guard)
/My personal observations and experience studying and living full time with the breed.
My network of Ovcharka owner share similar experiences.
Wow! What a fantastic comment! For some reason I didn’t get the notification and am just seeing this. I really appreciated reading this!! Thank you so much for sharing. This actually may have answered something that had happened and I have struggled with for 3 years now. Thank you for watching and sharing!! Take care ✌🏻
Absolutely stunning dogs ❤❤❤
@@debbiesmith4322 they are big old sweethearts ☺️✌🏻
I see Tom strutting his stuff in the background. Handsome dogs. I’ve never seen one with such dark markings.
@@cynthiaamitrano8915 haha yeah I had a laugh about Turkey Dude pacing in the background 😆 Yes, Bo’s coat and markings lead me to suspect they may have some Caucasian Shepherd in their bloodline. Thanks for watching ✌🏻
Very informative video...
Thank you and thanks for watching! ✌🏻
now all the burglars are going to see this and come in all the houses
@@kurumais 😂 don’t get me wrong, they will take care of business but most people wouldn’t dare come on the property after just seeing them.
We have a Texas healer, also not a pet just a tool. He is a great dog but bad pet. Australia shepherd great pet blue healer great pet put them together and all you get is a work tool like a tractor, screwdriver, or hammer. He is cute
@@fairwind8222 Knowing the specific needs of a dog based on genetics is important. Even some pets can have certain requirements based off their bloodline. Thanks for watching! ✌🏻
Awesome informative video! ❤
Thank you and thanks for watching ✌🏻
I have never considered the dogs I have been honored to share life with as just a pet. It seems disrespectful and does not honor the bond of pack.
good channel, keep going
Thank you so much! Appreciate the support ✌🏻
Great Video*, Love your hair!
@@jamtlandhomesteaders2710 thanks you!! Hope you enjoyed it, take care ✌🏻☺️
No different from a very bright child, then tell them to sit down and shut up. it just does not work.
Well said that why the educated system doesn't work.
They're equipment thats all
LGD are farm employees. If you want a pet dog get a chihuahua.
His a very Good looking GP 💯💯💯
Thank you!! ✌🏻
They are so fun to watch their instinct at work, sometimes so subtle in their actions amazing dogs!!
Yes, absolutely! So many subtleties you can pick up on by observation. I’ve had mine 4.5 years now and still learn from them. Thanks for watching ✌🏻☺️
Great video. I shared it with a couple of people.
@@a.wilcox5690 wow, thank you so much!! Thanks for watching ✌🏻☺️