Completely agree with your backroom take. "Spooky monster" is much less scary than an infinity of impossible, empty architecture. You can run, you can hide; it doesn't matter. The humming of an infinity of neon light echoing through an infinite empty hallway makes my spine shiver in a way that is truly unique. I always imagine that you do not die of starvation or thirst, it's a glitch in reality and you are stuck in your current state, you're essentially damned to purgatory.
That makes me imagine the idea that because of the nature of the backrooms you can't die no matter how damaged your body is. Like your HP is "bugged" and you just can't die. doesn't matter if you haven't eaten or drunken anything in 2 years, or if you tried to end your suffering by falling somewhere. Even if you are basically a blood spatter you will just suffer eternally. The idea of just stumbling across the body of someone who has gone mad from the pain of being a broken corpse for all eternity is spine chilling.
Back in the day vine showed how profitable it is to prey on lowered attention spans of younger people who use technology. Now tiktok took our attention spans and hammered em into nothing. Its why people of this generation and many following wont be able to enjoy some of the more complex or subtle forms of media and entertainment. I personally think its also why good cinema and gaming died sometime after the 90s and early 2000s
Your take about the backrooms was very based, it was much better when it was more original, the mystery of an empty sub-space that you could "slip" into was much more intriguing (to adults), I think. Plus, SCP already did the whole "creepy and odd monsters/objects" thing, but I think what ended up happening is that Gen Z wanted to have their own version of SCP and kids found the original idea behind the backrooms a little boring, so they started making changes, and just never stopped... I mean the backrooms wiki people literally turned it into a Zelda dungeon level, where there's like a thousand different levels of horror before you can escape, which is so cheesy lol. I also find it funny that people on most social medias say they vehemently hate 4chan, but then all their coolest ideas become radically popular and yet, nobody says anything about that lol.
Both SCP and the backrooms started on 4chan. Both of them became shit the moment 4channers stopped being involved. SCP became LGBTSCP where all the monsters became tumblr tier fanfiction bullshit or power scaling autism, and you already know about the backrooms. People hate 4chan because any idea that goes against the mainsteam narrative is viewed as evil and should be erased. Many people outright call for the eradication of such kinds of free speech, labelling it as "hate speech" and therefore should be illegal. I personally don't care about any of that shit, but people should be allowed to do whatever they want, regardless of what it is. 4chan, being a place with basically no rules (aside from stay on topic, or don't post CP or porn on a blue board) breeds this kind of creativity.
Worse yet, the cool ideas they make drop in quality once people start to change it. SCP started there and the mods started to become reddit, because they came from tumbler and reddit
You fall into error room because of Pluto being weird and making your hitbox very very silly and allowing you to clip through some things You can't do this if you just small BUT if you don't have Pluto, you can become smaller 5 times then you can bomb yourself into error room through crawls space down corners
13:01 he says he could be more op, the thing that i dont like about glitched crown is that 1: you can always mess up ant take tmtrainer instead of r key and when you get two quality four items, you are limited to picking one. Also, you give up the comfort of alt floors since you can see that whatever you dont like you can just not pick and you will still have a great chance of getting a good item whilst with glitched you exhaust the pools extremely fast and can still get screwed over!
Honestly, A24 is one of my favorite studios. They make great slow burn horror movies, which I feel would add to the exploration of a liminal backrooms film
I like the idea of the like, the first few floors. Make them all liminal spaces, and maybe one has some monster thing. But the main horror becomes what could be, and the helplessness
Regarding the backrooms, I think the more explanations, descriptions and visual representations we get, the less scary it becomes, so a film wouldn't be ideal. But if there is going to be one, I'd say your idea is pretty good. The backrooms were indeed better in the original post. The appeal and terrifying nature of the concept comes from how it's familiar yet something is really off, how it's almost infinite, a maze of nonsensical arquitecture, the FEELING that somethig bad could happen any moment and the hopelessness of being alone yet fearing that you are not, that there might be something else lurking in a corner. It's a wonderful concept, really, though I'd say I'd have liked it even more if the original post didn't strongly hint at a monster being there. The original idea works because you only know enough about it to put yourself in that place, the rest is left to your imagination. But only late teens or adults can picture the existential dread such a situation would cause, how easily it would drive you insane. Kids, or people who didn't experience certain things, can't, so when it reached them, creating monsters seemed necessary to them for the idea to be creepy, and it went down hill from there. It's such a shame. Sorry for the looooong comment, it just frustrates me to see the downfall of such an eerie and original horror-story-thingy.
Based Mattman, I loved the concept of the backrooms as something to play with paranoia, fear and hopelessness. Adding critters and monsters just feels like cheating and takes all the mystique away. But it is understandable as well that that kind of horror is more subjective and harder to transmit. If someone is not willing to suspend disbelief, this kind of scenarios become waaaay harder to get into compared to *le spooky monster appears in le screen
I like your take about the backrooms movie and I have to say I agree. What if occasionally through through the movie certain things are heard or seen? Like at some point you hear some very quite distorted crying or an extra set of footsteps when character/s aren't moving? a long set of grey fingers disappearing behind a distant wall in the background, etc
If your hitbox is small enough, you can clip through the walls of the crawl space (since they are obstacles). Leaving crawl spaces from unintended places sends you straight to the error room
I really agree with Mattman on the Backrooms stuff, it became SCP but kids really like it. When compared to the horror of a slow death or eternity in loneliness and insanity, dying to a weird creature is a blessing. I love the idea of different floors, monsters and ways of survival, but fr Backrooms now are to the Infinite Ikea what Gmod is to Half-Life
Completely agree with your backrooms take. I love SCP, and there’s definitely a lot of potential in complex stories with many different entities and details, but the appeal of backrooms was completely different. Kane’s videos are super cool and interesting, but they didn’t really have to be the backrooms exactly. It’s just an interesting anomalous space. Unfortunately, the liminality is lost
Imagine not taking glitched crown with death certifiacte when you had an entire talk about how it was the best item to take while ALSO having judgement garenteeing you to get rock bottom 100% in the secret room anyways because glitched crown + reroll average Mattman Moment
I so agree with you on the back rooms. At this point it is just a new SCP but the og rooms are scary because you’ll die in there and it’s because of nothing.
absolutely a based take regarding the backrooms, i feel like a lot of the horror of the original concept gets lost when you add infinite levels because you just kinda lose the fear of the unknown. However the lore of kane pixels has been very good thus far and does stick to the horror of it all while adding in meaningful ways
Was actively yelling at the screen like a dad watching a football game when he took rock bottom, he couldve taken glitched crown and been guaranteed rock bottom anyways with the reverse judgement rolls
a lot of people have said it already but totally agree with the backrooms take. being alone in an unknown space is where the fear comes from imo. a24 please make a 1 1/2 hour film of unnerving ambiance
1:34 im still wondering why matt places a bomb then pushes it to where he wants to bomb and not just place the bomb there.... its stupid imo also edit: 9:20 if ur small enough or fast enough (over 2 speed with for example spin to win) you can clip through the bottom which always sends you to the error room. if you manage to clip through the celling you will just go out like you would with the staircase but thats harder to do
For the backroom movie I'm more worried that they'll take everything interesting about Kane's take on the backroom (ambiance, analog, surrealism), and get rid of it in favour of cliché Hollywood horror. I'm scared that the people ultimately making the final calls on that movie won't be the ones with an actual understanding of what made Kane's internet series good.
Bro im not gonna lie if the movie comes out and it's an hour and a half of walking around in the fucking pool rooms and then 10 minutes of horror im coming for you, unless those ten minutes are the best minutes of horror ever written or somethin
Nothing brings me greater joy than seeing Isaac players bomb themselves trying to push bombs up against walls. Will they learn from their mistake and just place the bomb against the wall next time? No, no they will not.
Stopwatch might make a win easier, but Black Candle prevents all the annoying outcomes that come of curses, like taking a bad ❓item, or missing Boss Rush/ Hush because of Curse of the Lost/ Maze.
Objectively glitched crown is probably a better item, but personally I think they're more boring of a run. Sacred Orb early makes it a normal fun run but POGGER
The way to talk about your ideal plot of the Backrooms movie is almost exactly how the indie horror film Skinamarink is filmed. Very liminal space feeling but it's filmed in the director's childhood home. Maybe check it out!
idk why but when lazy mattman found the holy mantle on angle room i screamed at the same time he did i guess watching lazy mattman daily has got to me🤣
Monsters in the backroom gives hope that you can survive there - They did since before you went there. If not anything else you could potentially eat the monsters. Just empty rooms on and on and on and on... That's earie. Nothing to fight or love or anything.
Day 6. It Happened, Matts Kidney Stone + Rock Bottom........ Unfortunately he took the devil of all items, Epic Fetus. I sill await for the day my beloved shall shine
Catching up on vids so this is 2 months later, but hard agree on the backrooms take at 9:55. The original concept was so much cooler than just another ooga booga realm imo
When you were talking about the back rooms movie, what you described already exists as a movie called “Skinamarink” and in my opinion it’s a mid snoozer.
completely agree with the backrooms now treated as a scp thing. Even some people of the backrooms community think the same way, it used to be some strange place, the liminial feeling of something its going to happen but it wont happen, just you alone... its pretty much a interesting concept then people got the idea of add monster because they want to and it got unnecessary complex lore and stuff and let me start about "huggy wuggy amogus vs boyfriend with bendy at the backrooms" that straight up a joke for the backrooms
Matt when he starts with Sacred Orb: OOOOOOOOOOOO
Matt when he finds Sacred Orb: This never helps me
well starting with it is way better
He is just wrong
To be fair, he usually finds it real close to the end
@@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708tell me what good sacred orb does in like The Dark Room
Cus free 🤑
Completely agree with your backroom take. "Spooky monster" is much less scary than an infinity of impossible, empty architecture. You can run, you can hide; it doesn't matter. The humming of an infinity of neon light echoing through an infinite empty hallway makes my spine shiver in a way that is truly unique. I always imagine that you do not die of starvation or thirst, it's a glitch in reality and you are stuck in your current state, you're essentially damned to purgatory.
That makes me imagine the idea that because of the nature of the backrooms you can't die no matter how damaged your body is. Like your HP is "bugged" and you just can't die. doesn't matter if you haven't eaten or drunken anything in 2 years, or if you tried to end your suffering by falling somewhere. Even if you are basically a blood spatter you will just suffer eternally. The idea of just stumbling across the body of someone who has gone mad from the pain of being a broken corpse for all eternity is spine chilling.
@@inanis5888 this is horrifying but honestly so fucking cool as a concept
Back in the day vine showed how profitable it is to prey on lowered attention spans of younger people who use technology. Now tiktok took our attention spans and hammered em into nothing. Its why people of this generation and many following wont be able to enjoy some of the more complex or subtle forms of media and entertainment. I personally think its also why good cinema and gaming died sometime after the 90s and early 2000s
@@inanis5888 That's a really great idea and I'm stealing that for my D&D campaign lol
@@joem2457I’ll take pretentious bs for 200
I cried when he matted all the basement
that truly was a mattman moment
Matting time forever !!!!!!!!
3:29
"JUDGEMENT"
-Mattman Prime, binding of ultrakill
truly one of the moments of all time
I thought I was the only one who thought of that. 😂
Binding of the council, v1 told gabriel to kill them
You are so right about the back rooms. I liked it more with no monsters. The fear is being stuck in a never ending room.
i mean then it just becomes boring
To be fair in the original post it alluded to monsters being there but never explicitly said there was any.
@@Burning_the_toast scary monster in labirynth is very intrensting and scary yes
It always had monsters the original post even said "god help you if you hear something in the backrooms"
@@Fridge_fuckeryeah tbh, favorite entity is Jerry the parrot or smth like that
9:02 Taking goathead on hush floor is a true Mattman moment
r key
Loved the part where LazyMattman said “it’s Mattman Time”
Brought to tears😢
😐
True and the mattman everywhere
+tears up
"time to get lazy"
I agree with you when it was just the liminal space, It's what creates the scary atmosphere
yeah
Your take about the backrooms was very based, it was much better when it was more original, the mystery of an empty sub-space that you could "slip" into was much more intriguing (to adults), I think. Plus, SCP already did the whole "creepy and odd monsters/objects" thing, but I think what ended up happening is that Gen Z wanted to have their own version of SCP and kids found the original idea behind the backrooms a little boring, so they started making changes, and just never stopped... I mean the backrooms wiki people literally turned it into a Zelda dungeon level, where there's like a thousand different levels of horror before you can escape, which is so cheesy lol. I also find it funny that people on most social medias say they vehemently hate 4chan, but then all their coolest ideas become radically popular and yet, nobody says anything about that lol.
agreed big time.
Both SCP and the backrooms started on 4chan. Both of them became shit the moment 4channers stopped being involved.
SCP became LGBTSCP where all the monsters became tumblr tier fanfiction bullshit or power scaling autism, and you already know about the backrooms.
People hate 4chan because any idea that goes against the mainsteam narrative is viewed as evil and should be erased. Many people outright call for the eradication of such kinds of free speech, labelling it as "hate speech" and therefore should be illegal.
I personally don't care about any of that shit, but people should be allowed to do whatever they want, regardless of what it is. 4chan, being a place with basically no rules (aside from stay on topic, or don't post CP or porn on a blue board) breeds this kind of creativity.
Worse yet, the cool ideas they make drop in quality once people start to change it. SCP started there and the mods started to become reddit, because they came from tumbler and reddit
The idea that you can escape and that there are multiple levels on the backrooms make it sound more like a game rather than horror
15:40 well now we know how mat gets his luck, he sacrifices people to the rigging gods
Takes chaos and immediately tries to reroll the secret room. Classic Mattman moment.
i don’t think i’ve ever heard a more visceral scream in my life than 5:57. i cannot stop laughing at how flabbergasted Matt is
9:18 "i don't even need to fight hush... actually i do cuz i can't go down.... EXCUSE ME?? WHAT?" That timing was perfect
You fall into error room because of Pluto being weird and making your hitbox very very silly and allowing you to clip through some things
You can't do this if you just small
BUT
if you don't have Pluto, you can become smaller 5 times then you can bomb yourself into error room through crawls space down corners
the backrooms moment
13:01 he says he could be more op, the thing that i dont like about glitched crown is that 1: you can always mess up ant take tmtrainer instead of r key and when you get two quality four items, you are limited to picking one. Also, you give up the comfort of alt floors since you can see that whatever you dont like you can just not pick and you will still have a great chance of getting a good item whilst with glitched you exhaust the pools extremely fast and can still get screwed over!
Matt: Gets Sacred Orb
Also Matt: Is surprised when he gets good items
4:16 I got jumped when ever he yelled OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
10:55 it should have those very long silence parts with only bsckground noises or heavy bresthing with nothing more like in a space oddosey
i loved the part where matt said ''AAEEEEOOUGGHHHH!!'', brought me to tears (+tears up)
Glitched Crown IS better than Sacred Orb, but with Sacred Orb you don't get that moment where you're kinda bored of trying to get the right item.
Honestly, A24 is one of my favorite studios. They make great slow burn horror movies, which I feel would add to the exploration of a liminal backrooms film
Sacred Orb: OOOOOOOOH
Death Certificate: AEAEAEAEAEAEEAEAH
Poly:OOOOOOOOOAH
20/20: OOOoh... OAAHHHH
Ah yes, more videos by Lazy Mattman where he TEARS UP the mic and sound barrier :3
Funny noises:
0:04 2:24 3:59 4:16 5:03 5:57 (!!!) 6:54 (lol) 11:59 & 12:02 12:41 15:05 17:09
thanks man
soo many grunt bro
I like the idea of the like, the first few floors. Make them all liminal spaces, and maybe one has some monster thing. But the main horror becomes what could be, and the helplessness
3:30 the moment Lazy Mattman became Pinos Mprime 🗿
Regarding the backrooms, I think the more explanations, descriptions and visual representations we get, the less scary it becomes, so a film wouldn't be ideal. But if there is going to be one, I'd say your idea is pretty good.
The backrooms were indeed better in the original post. The appeal and terrifying nature of the concept comes from how it's familiar yet something is really off, how it's almost infinite, a maze of nonsensical arquitecture, the FEELING that somethig bad could happen any moment and the hopelessness of being alone yet fearing that you are not, that there might be something else lurking in a corner.
It's a wonderful concept, really, though I'd say I'd have liked it even more if the original post didn't strongly hint at a monster being there. The original idea works because you only know enough about it to put yourself in that place, the rest is left to your imagination. But only late teens or adults can picture the existential dread such a situation would cause, how easily it would drive you insane. Kids, or people who didn't experience certain things, can't, so when it reached them, creating monsters seemed necessary to them for the idea to be creepy, and it went down hill from there. It's such a shame.
Sorry for the looooong comment, it just frustrates me to see the downfall of such an eerie and original horror-story-thingy.
We loved the part when Mattman sayd: its mattmanin' time and then mattmaned all over the place.
Truly one of the moments of all time.
9:20 ; the moment isaac fell into the backrooms
5:12 It always does something, you can't get items below quality 2 and quality 2 items have a chance to reroll
9:21 I have never seen this happen ever wtf. Pluto moment.
Calling it a tampon when it’s clearly a pad is a matman moment
The scream at 5:56 sounded like he was in pain lmao
Based Mattman, I loved the concept of the backrooms as something to play with paranoia, fear and hopelessness. Adding critters and monsters just feels like cheating and takes all the mystique away. But it is understandable as well that that kind of horror is more subjective and harder to transmit. If someone is not willing to suspend disbelief, this kind of scenarios become waaaay harder to get into compared to *le spooky monster appears in le screen
9:21 bro got teletransported to the backrooms 💀
11:08 you'd like Skinamarink, very much fits into the "oh fuck is something there?" type of psychological horror you're describing
I like your take about the backrooms movie and I have to say I agree. What if occasionally through through the movie certain things are heard or seen? Like at some point you hear some very quite distorted crying or an extra set of footsteps when character/s aren't moving? a long set of grey fingers disappearing behind a distant wall in the background, etc
If your hitbox is small enough, you can clip through the walls of the crawl space (since they are obstacles). Leaving crawl spaces from unintended places sends you straight to the error room
0:20 “that’s honestly better than the tampon” 💀💀
you screaming when you get a good item is my favorite part of the day
Sacred orb start is like "here is all good items on game, have fun"
Jeez this luck man
I really agree with Mattman on the Backrooms stuff, it became SCP but kids really like it.
When compared to the horror of a slow death or eternity in loneliness and insanity, dying to a weird creature is a blessing.
I love the idea of different floors, monsters and ways of survival, but fr Backrooms now are to the Infinite Ikea what Gmod is to Half-Life
Completely agree with your backrooms take. I love SCP, and there’s definitely a lot of potential in complex stories with many different entities and details, but the appeal of backrooms was completely different. Kane’s videos are super cool and interesting, but they didn’t really have to be the backrooms exactly. It’s just an interesting anomalous space. Unfortunately, the liminality is lost
Imagine not taking glitched crown with death certifiacte when you had an entire talk about how it was the best item to take while ALSO having judgement garenteeing you to get rock bottom 100% in the secret room anyways because glitched crown + reroll
average Mattman Moment
Matt gonna be the next item speedrunner
I so agree with you on the back rooms. At this point it is just a new SCP but the og rooms are scary because you’ll die in there and it’s because of nothing.
about the backrooms part, the last part of the 4chan posts implies theres a monster, so its essentially the same as it is now
absolutely a based take regarding the backrooms, i feel like a lot of the horror of the original concept gets lost when you add infinite levels because you just kinda lose the fear of the unknown. However the lore of kane pixels has been very good thus far and does stick to the horror of it all while adding in meaningful ways
mattman forgetting the pertho and knowing it but not going back it is truly a moment mattman
3:28 POV: You´re going to be obliterated by minos prime
I felt so emotional when Matt said "OOOOOOOO" Truly a gamer moment
Bro nobody screams so loud...mattman 5:58
12:02 Lazy Mattman turns into a monster from the backrooms
Was actively yelling at the screen like a dad watching a football game when he took rock bottom, he couldve taken glitched crown and been guaranteed rock bottom anyways with the reverse judgement rolls
Damn that scream 5:57
3:29 bro turned into minos prime for a second there
5:56 OOOOO*BREAKS MIC*
Seeing you take rock bottom instead of pyromaniac was a sad moment. You could've done an incredible bomb build there
5:54 mattman was pulled down to hell
matt: sees 20/20 and apple
matt: O-O-OOOO(goes monke mode)
a lot of people have said it already but totally agree with the backrooms take. being alone in an unknown space is where the fear comes from imo. a24 please make a 1 1/2 hour film of unnerving ambiance
Ma man, that don't eat like MattStonie, but have the luck of the gods to compensate. Love the video
Mattman fans when he misses tinted rock: MY ANGER IS OVER 9000
1:34 im still wondering why matt places a bomb then pushes it to where he wants to bomb and not just place the bomb there.... its stupid imo
also edit: 9:20 if ur small enough or fast enough (over 2 speed with for example spin to win) you can clip through the bottom which always sends you to the error room. if you manage to clip through the celling you will just go out like you would with the staircase but thats harder to do
9:20 Isaac: the backrooms accident
This man just no clipped into the backrooms again
His screams always make me giggle so hard that I start feeling something heavy in my pants.
For the backroom movie I'm more worried that they'll take everything interesting about Kane's take on the backroom (ambiance, analog, surrealism), and get rid of it in favour of cliché Hollywood horror. I'm scared that the people ultimately making the final calls on that movie won't be the ones with an actual understanding of what made Kane's internet series good.
Bro im not gonna lie if the movie comes out and it's an hour and a half of walking around in the fucking pool rooms and then 10 minutes of horror im coming for you, unless those ten minutes are the best minutes of horror ever written or somethin
Nothing brings me greater joy than seeing Isaac players bomb themselves trying to push bombs up against walls. Will they learn from their mistake and just place the bomb against the wall next time? No, no they will not.
Pro tip: Sing the specialist dance song every time matt enters a room with a pedestal.
ugh love a mattman vid before the Super Bowl 🫶🏼
Stopwatch might make a win easier, but Black Candle prevents all the annoying outcomes that come of curses, like taking a bad ❓item, or missing Boss Rush/ Hush because of Curse of the Lost/ Maze.
I was waiting for thisss
Average mattman run:
Also bro became an living nuke fr
Gets error room with black runes, nothing in card slot, doesn't take one to next floor. Mattman just hates black runes confirmed.
Me when i get a sacred orb: nice
Me after watching Mattman’s videos: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Objectively glitched crown is probably a better item, but personally I think they're more boring of a run. Sacred Orb early makes it a normal fun run but POGGER
The way to talk about your ideal plot of the Backrooms movie is almost exactly how the indie horror film Skinamarink is filmed. Very liminal space feeling but it's filmed in the director's childhood home. Maybe check it out!
Stitches(the active item you rerolled from) is probably my favourite low quality item
10:00 unfathomably based
5:57 that sounded quite painful omg.
If brimstone + Dr fetus + haemolacria + sad bombs worked, your computer would just explode
idk why but when lazy mattman found the holy mantle on angle room i screamed at the same time he did i guess watching lazy mattman daily has got to me🤣
Minos Prime possessed Matt for one word
3:30
when he said its mattmaning time and matted all over the place i realy felt that
"First item sacred orb"
Me: how many " OHHHHHH" we gonna hear?
Babe wake up, Mattman uploaded
3:29 lazy mattman prime.
Fun fact, you can actually clip back into the crawlspace by running into the wall of the error room.
My fav part is when he said “it’s matting time” and then matter all over
Monsters in the backroom gives hope that you can survive there - They did since before you went there. If not anything else you could potentially eat the monsters.
Just empty rooms on and on and on and on... That's earie. Nothing to fight or love or anything.
Day 6. It Happened, Matts Kidney Stone + Rock Bottom........ Unfortunately he took the devil of all items, Epic Fetus. I sill await for the day my beloved shall shine
When matt did that mistake at that time on the video I couldn't help but scream. It sucks that he forgot to do the thing
I fr love re watching allot of videos while faded 9:30 this one time i did a crazy red key thing and went into the error room and skipped hush
5:55 he sounds so disgusted
I just found this channel and I’m binge watching everything
Catching up on vids so this is 2 months later, but hard agree on the backrooms take at 9:55. The original concept was so much cooler than just another ooga booga realm imo
When you were talking about the back rooms movie, what you described already exists as a movie called “Skinamarink” and in my opinion it’s a mid snoozer.
completely agree with the backrooms now treated as a scp thing. Even some people of the backrooms community think the same way, it used to be some strange place, the liminial feeling of something its going to happen but it wont happen, just you alone... its pretty much a interesting concept then people got the idea of add monster because they want to and it got unnecessary complex lore and stuff and let me start about "huggy wuggy amogus vs boyfriend with bendy at the backrooms" that straight up a joke for the backrooms
Matt is so insanely based for his back rooms opinion