The Porsche is racing, the Subaru is not. Track days at the ring explicitly say that you are NOT TO RACE and if someone is quicker than you then you MUST pull to the right and let them pass. Just another Porsche owner whose car far outweighs their ability. Go down at the weekends, you will find a car park full of GT3's that dont get driven properly.
+RiceCake WTF are u posting mate?!_ For sure almost every 9XX+Boxter+Cayman series have an H6 engine and as a matter of fact we call it a boxer engine_H4 and H6 for Su and H6 for Porky (present engine models) I don't want to imagine discussing about shock diamonds on full afterburner exhaust nozzle plume
+ej20daZe if you would like to research, the Subaru H4 and the Porsche H6 are not alike. Their firing order is different and how horizontal the engine is placed; which makes it flat vs. boxer.
+RiceCake I know firing order is not the same, because in H4 Su the pistons into opposite cylinders the reach e.g. the TDC together, if you're point was that, to indicate the differences of flats ("V"180deg) to true opposite movement (i assume meant as boxer's), i am wrong% /\/
Also to be fair, this sti at the time of recording was easily more than 15k stock. Add in the mods and it's cost is even higher. Still not near the stock price of that Porsche though. Stock v. Stock with the same driver and no traffic the Porsche would obviously win. That being said, I drive an STI and absolutely love Subies but I do also like Porsches. Anyways, great driving by the STI!
It's always been a dream of mine to lap Nordschleife. I know the track very well for someone that has never been there. Throughout all the racing sims I've played on console it is my favorite and it's the main track I tune my cars on when I'm playing forza 6. (I know 7 has been out but I prefer 6) I've driven it for hours trying to best my time in rival mode. I had no idea the traffic was this insane though. I see less driving to work in Hawaii and we have amazingly awful traffic.
according to the dash (if it's the vehicle's original one>>yellow needled - speedometer in the center) that's a bugeye wrx (GDA-A or GDA-B??), not an original STi. Well done for the chassis and engine improvements-mods_ thank you for sharing ur video_
what a brilliant ride - thanks. Actually morally you beat the guy in the Porsche because A. you caught up and B. he couldn't get away. It was just fluke you couldn't get past. Also what a fine piece of machinery that Subaru is. Half the price of a GT3 and even if the GT3 was properly driven (which this one wasn't) not much to spare. @PaulH - Subarus owe all their development to Europe, mostly Britain (with Finnish driver-input). Japanese precision, European know-how. Symbiosis.
he didnt need to move, the Scooby just didn't quite have enough power to decisively overtake him, Porsche driver did block a little, but had the power to deny the 'ru
I then waisted 4 sets of bolts down for each strutt varying amounts which means I can adjust the camber between 2 and 5 degrees just by swapping the top bolt simalar to the way its was done on mk1 Clio cup cars. I also did this on the rear as well. Camber is around -4 front and -3 rear. Front spring rates are 550 and rears are around 450. Sorry cant remeber what size arbs I'm running but i'l measure and let you know. Hope this helps.
If anyone is still coming across this video, can we get some feedback on what the Porsche driver was doing? To me, someone who loves driving, drives for a living, yet has never tracked a car, it looks pretty unsafe and of poor etiquette...
In fact, I have. And the Subaru forgives mistakes, but the 911 just tries to kill you, as Jeremy Clarkson would say ;) especially on in-turns and sloping corners, of which the ring has a lot
First of all nice driving. But give the Swiss driver a bonus, they re just alllowed to drive 120 km/h in Switzerland and have no racetracks. And by the way he didn't want you to overtake him, cannot blame him :D Still tough you got a weight advantage and as you mentioned a track prepped car (stiffer etc. prob. slick tyres) And you need to be a damn good driver to drive a 911 around there fast, then you are much faster than everybody else ;)
bad sportsmanship from the driver of the GT3.... He can clearly see that your car is faster yet he won't let you pass him. You're a good driver and it can be seen from your quite limited hand movement. You also know your car very good Great video !
Nice video man! Good driving and awesome subie! If I was you, I would brake late and dive into the corner.. to me its more fun and enjoyable when you have to fight your way through. Peace!
I remember your thread on Scoobynet. What did you have done to the arms? I was looking at doing something similar, or just buying Spec C arms. Any chance you could share? :)
The gt3 driver didnt kept his line..he was pretty slow actualy..giv the porsche to someone that CAN drive one it would be another story..that wrx is movin man,good driving!
great work juts a thing , what type of tires that used on a circuit like that , in central amrica is very normal to see toyo , yoko , with treadwear 180 , 100 @bridgecrafteng
Oh, right ok. I moved the wishbones forward by taking about 10mm off the front of the wishbone and threading the bush bore.I then made a top hat bush which housed a spherical bearing that screwed into the new thread I'd just put in the wishbone. This allowed me to move the wishbone forward 20mm after I'd made spacers to run with the spherical bearings. I then junked my top mounts and and made some simple ones that moved the strutt as far back as the inner wing strutt apature would allow.
well its actually a 997 gt3. You can tell by the tail lights, rear bumper, wing and center exhaust. But you are right, on the straights he was definitely pulling away and could not be passed. to the OP: Just because you were on his tail at moments didnt mean you could pass him. granted the gt3 did dog some of those corners but I dont under any circumstances think that you can call that car a piece of shit. especially considering its probably faster then your car just with a mediocre driver.
Nice run mate ;), looks like a heavy traffic lap at the ring, always 1 or 2 that wont move out the way! bank holiday weekend? how much castor are you running :O car turns in very nicely. D
Great driving dude. You without doubt whipped him....but if I was him in a 10x more expensive car I'd be a bit miffed that I didn't have the talent to keep you in the distance lol. What BHP is the STI running?
bridgecrafteng I would say another 100 bhp, you would of had him defo, you just lacked that bit of grunt that he had over to you to give you the confidence to take him.good job all the same. Scooby owner.
This meant i had now got shed loads of caster which was what I was aiming for. As I'd moved the wishbones forward i had to take some of the bend out the ARB and move it forward by making new mounting brackets. I also made used male/female rose joints for my drop links which meant I could set the corner weights correctly. On top of this I machined the strutt so I could fit oversize 12.9 tensile bolts in the top bolt hole only.
he gave you many a chance to get passed him. If any thing, he made push along and drive better compared to the first half of the video Just turbo lag let you down in speed Nice driving any way
Well that gt3 driver demonstrated some 'interesting' lines!
The Porsche is racing, the Subaru is not. Track days at the ring explicitly say that you are NOT TO RACE and if someone is quicker than you then you MUST pull to the right and let them pass. Just another Porsche owner whose car far outweighs their ability. Go down at the weekends, you will find a car park full of GT3's that dont get driven properly.
boxer vs boxer.... beautiful
Boxer vs. flat. Porsche is not a boxer engine due to different components, alignments, and piston setups.
+RiceCake
WTF are u posting mate?!_ For sure almost every 9XX+Boxter+Cayman series have an H6 engine and as a matter of fact we call it a boxer engine_H4 and H6 for Su and H6 for Porky (present engine models)
I don't want to imagine discussing about shock diamonds on full afterburner exhaust nozzle plume
+ej20daZe if you would like to research, the Subaru H4 and the Porsche H6 are not alike. Their firing order is different and how horizontal the engine is placed; which makes it flat vs. boxer.
+RiceCake
I know firing order is not the same, because in H4 Su the pistons into opposite cylinders the reach e.g. the TDC together, if you're point was that, to indicate the differences of flats ("V"180deg) to true opposite movement (i assume meant as boxer's), i am wrong%
/\/
+ej20daZe that was kind of my point but couldn't find the words like you did haha
Really good job. You feel tyres like your feet.
I like your comment thanks!
If you want to go faster, you can throw your partner out of the car
Too much traffic! Great work, it looks like you've spent some time on that track.
Ao48's, front end grip is also due to the fact I have rose jointed wishbones relocated forward 20mm.
Ta for the comments.
That awkward moment when 135k car couldn't shake away a 15K STI..
Aaendewy8D GT3RS can destroy a sti easily... the only difference is the driver ! And this is a really great driver with the sub !
Also to be fair, this sti at the time of recording was easily more than 15k stock. Add in the mods and it's cost is even higher. Still not near the stock price of that Porsche though. Stock v. Stock with the same driver and no traffic the Porsche would obviously win. That being said, I drive an STI and absolutely love Subies but I do also like Porsches. Anyways, great driving by the STI!
Hechter Rémi no shit, idiot xD But put a RWD 911 on the rally track, the subie is a rally car.
135k ??? Don't know which 997 GT3 cost that much new, not even in Euros :')
superb skills shown there sir
It's always been a dream of mine to lap Nordschleife. I know the track very well for someone that has never been there. Throughout all the racing sims I've played on console it is my favorite and it's the main track I tune my cars on when I'm playing forza 6. (I know 7 has been out but I prefer 6) I've driven it for hours trying to best my time in rival mode. I had no idea the traffic was this insane though. I see less driving to work in Hawaii and we have amazingly awful traffic.
looks like it can perform miracles of handling, gt3 driver thought he was in a battle but you were on another level and being polite frankly.
according to the dash (if it's the vehicle's original one>>yellow needled - speedometer in the center) that's a bugeye wrx (GDA-A or GDA-B??), not an original STi. Well done for the chassis and engine improvements-mods_
thank you for sharing ur video_
Thanks for the comment. No, I've still got the 306 but I've been spending time on the Subaru as I'm addicted to boost.
Awesome driving. Inspirational. I just moved up to advanced in HPDE and I know I have a long way to still go!
Credit to the porsche driver aswell, he had the engine power but i know what id rather be pushing the limits of braking and cornering in.
finally someone who drives an wrx in a good way at nurbergring !
Your scooby is a beast! Clearly the twit in the GT3 doesn't like being passed.
Dude the subie guy is no joke lol
good driving sir...didn't quite have the edge on the Porsche but enjoyed the video
Very nice driving! Show the Porsche driver what a real car looks like :)
Porsche is not a real car? pff ok then. >.>
not when driven by a knob like the guy in the video, the ring rules say you must give way to a quicker car which the porsche didn't
You should have went with real driver vs. real car.... that GT3 is more car than that modified STI. The driver on the other hand...
Ha Ha Ha! you must be joking surely.
Fair play to the scooby driver now let him drive the gt3 so it can be driven properly lol
Great video. Very scary hand positioning on the wheel...
Wow you're really pushing your car to the limits, great video!
Hi! Astonishing performance for the small mods, nice driving, very nice!! :-)
Wow sounds like a lot of work, but it clearly works! Thanks for sharing
Those track spec scoobies are still no joke in 2022 haha
I think it was cool the GT3 didn't move out of the way... Makes a little bit of action, little bit of challenge... makes a good video!
Dam, that Subaru is rapid mate, good race with the GT3 too.
what a brilliant ride - thanks. Actually morally you beat the guy in the Porsche because A. you caught up and B. he couldn't get away. It was just fluke you couldn't get past. Also what a fine piece of machinery that Subaru is. Half the price of a GT3 and even if the GT3 was properly driven (which this one wasn't) not much to spare.
@PaulH - Subarus owe all their development to Europe, mostly Britain (with Finnish driver-input). Japanese precision, European know-how. Symbiosis.
Why you feeding the wheel? Hold it properly and Keep your hands on the thing!
he didnt need to move, the Scooby just didn't quite have enough power to decisively overtake him, Porsche driver did block a little, but had the power to deny the 'ru
If you've ever driven the Ring, you'd know that if a faster car (on a lap) catches you up, you let it past.
I then waisted 4 sets of bolts down for each strutt varying amounts which means I can adjust the camber between 2 and 5 degrees just by swapping the top bolt simalar to the way its was done on mk1 Clio cup cars.
I also did this on the rear as well.
Camber is around -4 front and -3 rear.
Front spring rates are 550 and rears are around 450.
Sorry cant remeber what size arbs I'm running but i'l measure and let you know.
Hope this helps.
Carraciola entrance...WHATS UP WITH ´IM ...
If anyone is still coming across this video, can we get some feedback on what the Porsche driver was doing? To me, someone who loves driving, drives for a living, yet has never tracked a car, it looks pretty unsafe and of poor etiquette...
A very nice ride! Here everybody can see that a fast car more needs than a powerfull engine!
In fact, I have. And the Subaru forgives mistakes, but the 911 just tries to kill you, as Jeremy Clarkson would say ;) especially on in-turns and sloping corners, of which the ring has a lot
quick wrx fella
example of good car, bad driver vs good car, good driver. the difference that it makes :)
GT3 driver can see only foward.
Truly enjoyable to watch .... great driving. ...
u got skillz man...gotta give u that... will u do a video of ur car?. would like to this screamer
BTG ~8:25 - considering the chronic blocker, a nice time
really wanted you to get 'em at the end there!
First of all nice driving. But give the Swiss driver a bonus, they re just alllowed to drive 120 km/h in Switzerland and have no racetracks. And by the way he didn't want you to overtake him, cannot blame him :D Still tough you got a weight advantage and as you mentioned a track prepped car (stiffer etc. prob. slick tyres) And you need to be a damn good driver to drive a 911 around there fast, then you are much faster than everybody else ;)
I like that mat you have on the dash... I need one of those for my WRX.
And does the CEL come on every time like that when you hit redline?
Fantastic lap Martin!
man this guy have skillz. Japanese cars are really good at cornering
bad sportsmanship from the driver of the GT3....
He can clearly see that your car is faster yet he won't let you pass him.
You're a good driver and it can be seen from your quite limited hand movement. You also know your car very good
Great video !
Love the sound of that blow off valve
Nice video man! Good driving and awesome subie! If I was you, I would brake late and dive into the corner.. to me its more fun and enjoyable when you have to fight your way through. Peace!
Nice driving. You certainly have bigger balls than I.
I remember your thread on Scoobynet. What did you have done to the arms? I was looking at doing something similar, or just buying Spec C arms. Any chance you could share? :)
Love the vid. What tyres did you run on this car? You've got some serious front end grip.
thats what i call driving bro ! Nice Car !
Take care !
Great driving great upload..
The gt3 driver didnt kept his line..he was pretty slow actualy..giv the porsche to someone that CAN drive one it would be another story..that wrx is movin man,good driving!
Was that Jeremy Clarkson with the girl from German TopGear in the van? About 2:20
I was thinking the exact same thing! Could be right? Not many vans on that track haha
Thought it was colin mcrae for a minute lol
nice driving but whats up with the vs? You cant keep up with the porsche on the straight?
Got my HR up just watching this. Imagine being in the car? Whew!!
Great driving bud. pity the beetle didn't move out your way.
That was unbelievable! Thanks for the video!
Nice driving.
nice driving! that was fun to watch
Must be that time of the month. x x
great work juts a thing , what type of tires that used on a circuit like that , in central amrica is very normal to see toyo , yoko , with treadwear 180 , 100 @bridgecrafteng
Am I right in thinking you had something done to the front arms to improve front end response? Care to share? :)
good job mate, nice driving
What has been done to lighten your car? 1.3 tonne is light for an 05 STi!
Es mucho pedir un circuito así, acá?
looked like a hell of a time!
what size steering wheel is that? looks perfect.
Oh, right ok.
I moved the wishbones forward by taking about 10mm off the front of the wishbone and threading the bush bore.I then made a top hat bush which housed a spherical bearing that screwed into the new thread I'd just put in the wishbone. This allowed me to move the wishbone forward 20mm after I'd made spacers to run with the spherical bearings.
I then junked my top mounts and and made some simple ones that moved the strutt as far back as the inner wing strutt apature would allow.
awesome driving bud. whats the rough spec of the impreza? would love to get mine up to or around this level of awesomeness 😁 great lap bud.
Thats was really good. For you to keep up with and at parts be fast than the gt3 was great.
Awesome driving!
Did you get rid of the 306? Nice lap tho!
Who needs a G meter when you have that key ring :-)
maaaaadddd driving skills, nice man
Nice Subaru, how did you get it for 2k?
a porsche in denial..
well its actually a 997 gt3. You can tell by the tail lights, rear bumper, wing and center exhaust. But you are right, on the straights he was definitely pulling away and could not be passed. to the OP: Just because you were on his tail at moments didnt mean you could pass him. granted the gt3 did dog some of those corners but I dont under any circumstances think that you can call that car a piece of shit. especially considering its probably faster then your car just with a mediocre driver.
Indeed Porsche should have higher corner speed after the Hoch Acht but this one just don't. Symmetrical rule the ring :)
awesome footage mean race , giving it to the subbie
Nice run mate ;), looks like a heavy traffic lap at the ring, always 1 or 2 that wont move out the way! bank holiday weekend? how much castor are you running :O car turns in very nicely. D
Yes I have mate,how did you know?
Great driving dude. You without doubt whipped him....but if I was him in a 10x more expensive car I'd be a bit miffed that I didn't have the talent to keep you in the distance lol. What BHP is the STI running?
360bhp
bridgecrafteng I would say another 100 bhp, you would of had him defo, you just lacked that bit of grunt that he had over to you to give you the confidence to take him.good job all the same. Scooby owner.
the german porche mightve thought fuckit tommy this is my track
Why so many bad comments about the Porsche? Seemed to b holding his own with what looked 2 b a rookie/newbie driver.
That was some awesome fun to watch !!
Supercar cannot shake off a good scooby
Thx for the video, nice driving!
That looked fun !
why does hey need to move out the way heys quicker on the straight and your faster in the corners.....
The subuaru driver was much better. If you cloned him in the porsche, the race would have been the porsche disappearing from the subaru.
great driving!
Nice driving!
This meant i had now got shed loads of caster which was what I was aiming for.
As I'd moved the wishbones forward i had to take some of the bend out the ARB and move it forward by making new mounting brackets. I also made used male/female rose joints for my drop links which meant I could set the corner weights correctly.
On top of this I machined the strutt so I could fit oversize 12.9 tensile bolts in the top bolt hole only.
he gave you many a chance to get passed him.
If any thing, he made push along and drive better compared to the first half of the video
Just turbo lag let you down in speed
Nice driving any way
both rivers could use a driving lesson or two!
it is a track or the country route