As ActualPlastic and his guild mate were preparing for the upcoming gank, the guild mate asked him a question. “If we were to fight in the gank with the support build, who would win, them, or us? The real Plastic answered, “Well, if the enemy were to use an All The Dead Gods Silentheart build, it might cause me a little trouble.” “But would you lose?” “Nah, I’d support.”
Then his guildmate asked, "Do you support because your Plastic, or are you Plastic because you support." he then replied, "When it comes to debuffing and healing, my support abilities are truly sublime. Because across the depths and the Luminant's, I alone am the supporting one."
Ik I might be stupid saying this but I prefer fadetrimmer on a support build. I really have no problem healing them mid fight. A way I find it easy to get off very consistently is using shadow seekers, just pop those and heal your friend. Plus I actually can fight with it and I like using the mantras that it gives, precision cuts heals so much dmg with bloodless and it’s so easy to hit, close shave is an amazing gap closer that is very hard to parry/dodge. I can also just use the return command when all my friends are low and spam the heal on all of them. The charm hair spray also procs morale booster and other buffs to my allies. The flame hairspray procs phoenix flames and other fire talents as well. Overall linkstrider might be much stronger for supporting, I just find it more fun to use fadetrimmer and I prefer actually fighting a little bit.
Shadowseekers for days: Reload one hand gun? Shadow seekers. Running away? Shadowseekers. Brewing midfight (bro forgor 💀)? Shadowseekers. Play Gideshu March so your friend doesn't die from thirst and hunger? Shadowseekers.
I have a shadow fade trimmer support build (fade trimmer heal has such a short cd and heals like 20%) if I am with people who are competent enough to know how to use to there advantage the fact they have a support build, I have never lost a gank. Even if it’s like a 3v8.
I've done it myself. The big thing you have to watch out for is yourself getting targeted because it will absolutely happen and it's not fun, but otherwise everything here is extremely viable and there's many different tricks you can use. Self-preservation is the big thing though since without you, everyone dies.
a few inaccuracies, like for example v1 builds had around 2x the hp as current day builds c: but otherwise good coverage (that and ritual casting is consistent because there are no worthwhile modifiers on mindsooth, it takes less than a second to cast if you master it)
also my boyfriend plays fade trimmer for pvp over dawnwalker because he grills our friend group to have good coms so he can bulk heal us (blindseer would be better for this but he enjoys playing fadetrimmer, so we get value out of it)
run it back camped can also be countered using wind passage on the end of the bell, you get tped to ur wind passage location instead of your run it back location
4:03 It's actually 400 or more because if you have 500 it means you are not going be doing as much damage as you could be doing and if you have less than 400 you doing the peak of dmg but you don't have the hp to tank a combo like true combo you can't parry or block or dodge something that and 400 is the middle of things because you don't want to have too much hp and losing too much dmg but you don't to have to much dmg and losing too much health
@@speedlife735 Oathless is good solely because it allows you to bring out the full potential of any given build without being bogged down by oath abilities.
i followed your previous linkstrider videos and i have to thank you for that since i have no idea how to play support until i washed your video. As for my build, i went 50 thundercall preshrine for spark swap and static flashclones and 75 charisma for vom, as for post shrine, i went 20 str for pillars of erisia (the moce you showed in your video) and 60 galebreath for the gale jump, gale dash and the specter path since im dodging alot. I went 90 intel for potions and bombs, 50 fortitude for the shield and the rare talents, i ended up with 543 hp and as for my bell i went run it back. I was wonfering if you could tell me how I can make this better? I have a sinners ash and i could corrupt my run it back if you can tell me its worth it. Also anothr question, does run it back hyperamor let me chug potions while im getting hit and it doesn't cancel? Thank you for your time 👑
This Video is like actually like an adult talking to a room of children lol. In all seriousness Linkstrider is really good and was my favorite oath on L2 release
a couple months ago I was doing void walker bounties and saw a bunch of kids at entropy catalyst and I stole I link strider the guy sacrificed his friends for, that builds over 100 now and its still cracked for banking
My only gripe with link is the TP aspect being kinda trash. I assume its purpose is to be used to fast travel to a friends general location (which is what it should be if it isn’t) I suppose it might be too busted but I think it’s a shame that like, half of the oath has just been collecting dust since its introduction. Also uhh, what does Overcharm do? I have it on a build and don’t really know what it does, just got it because I like the visual.
If your not a fan of potions you can still get linkstrider and vow of mastery for a semi support build. I made one with frostdraw, linkstrider, and vow of mastery and even though I wasn't supporting with ether drain potions. My allies still did a huge amount of dmg and alot of dmg resistance from the buffs I was granting them
As a frostdraw main... i can say that ice daggers... is NOT good for catching in the slightest ice daggers is more of a feint tool and if they parry ice daggers they get a speed boost from fast blade, so i say that lightning strike is DEBATEABLY better for catching (the super long lighting strike version not the short one) and ice daggers is KINDA slow.... at least in travel time compared to others and there is no REAL modifiers that can speed up ice daggers Edit: i know ima get heat on this but ice daggers just FEEL slow after i used it for a while, by all means you can STILL use ice daggers it is just my opinion (CAN A PERSON NOT HAVE A OPINION?)
This is all lies saltchemist will always be the best oath in the game as it is simply superior to any pvp or pve or support oath. It also promotes global equality and peacefulness because you don’t have to brutally murder four whole people to get. Clearly misinformed and bad 😠
I hate the fact the the actual best support oath (jetstriker) has not been mentioned, 15% heal and some other buffs will never beat a trackstar, 9 out of 10 times a good trackstar will be able to save whoever has to be saved, with the exception being the presence of another trackstar, but even then you can steal the person back with spark swap. Also whoever uses starkindred for a trackstar build should shut up since a slightly longer air dash won't ever beat the enhanced dashes and wall climbing from jetstriker. Also I'm not trying to say that I dislike linkstrider, since I used to use it myself, but besides live command if the person who is getting the support from linkstrider gets knocked its pretty much over.
actually saltchemist is the best support lol get good edit: if you want to convince me otherwise then stop gatekeeping your "best support build", you claim to have the evidence yet never show it so until I see it, saltchemist is the best support oath.
the best support in the entire game runs linkstrider. saltchemist is less of a support build and more for skirmishing like wiseliston using tp poser saltchemist
@@DoneThatSeenThat wise is the best saltchemist in the game? its undeniably powerful but the support it provides ur group is worse than the best linkstrider. if u gank at a high level you would know this
As ActualPlastic and his guild mate were preparing for the upcoming gank, the guild mate asked him a question.
“If we were to fight in the gank with the support build, who would win, them, or us?
The real Plastic answered, “Well, if the enemy were to use an All The Dead Gods Silentheart build, it might cause me a little trouble.”
“But would you lose?”
“Nah, I’d support.”
Sad
Then his guildmate asked, "Do you support because your Plastic, or are you Plastic because you support."
he then replied, "When it comes to debuffing and healing, my support abilities are truly sublime. Because across the depths and the Luminant's, I alone am the supporting one."
Istg im gonna hang myself 😭
Lobotomywoken is real (please daddy arch and mommy rag release conquest already)
@@wearth6787 wtf is daddy arch mommy rag yall are on a browncap or some shit
Ik I might be stupid saying this but I prefer fadetrimmer on a support build. I really have no problem healing them mid fight. A way I find it easy to get off very consistently is using shadow seekers, just pop those and heal your friend. Plus I actually can fight with it and I like using the mantras that it gives, precision cuts heals so much dmg with bloodless and it’s so easy to hit, close shave is an amazing gap closer that is very hard to parry/dodge. I can also just use the return command when all my friends are low and spam the heal on all of them. The charm hair spray also procs morale booster and other buffs to my allies. The flame hairspray procs phoenix flames and other fire talents as well. Overall linkstrider might be much stronger for supporting, I just find it more fun to use fadetrimmer and I prefer actually fighting a little bit.
Shadowseekers with fade is pretty creative
Shadowseekers for days: Reload one hand gun? Shadow seekers. Running away? Shadowseekers. Brewing midfight (bro forgor 💀)? Shadowseekers. Play Gideshu March so your friend doesn't die from thirst and hunger? Shadowseekers.
I'd like to see a support build actually SUPPORT in a gank before I convinced of these HYPOTHETICALS
I have a shadow fade trimmer support build (fade trimmer heal has such a short cd and heals like 20%) if I am with people who are competent enough to know how to use to there advantage the fact they have a support build, I have never lost a gank. Even if it’s like a 3v8.
@@FrilledDno shot it heals 20% on a 500hp build
@@dungeonqu3st326it heals around 8-10%
I've done it myself. The big thing you have to watch out for is yourself getting targeted because it will absolutely happen and it's not fun, but otherwise everything here is extremely viable and there's many different tricks you can use. Self-preservation is the big thing though since without you, everyone dies.
I just sit with a blue link on my friend and afk while they lose the gank
a few inaccuracies, like for example v1 builds had around 2x the hp as current day builds c: but otherwise good coverage (that and ritual casting is consistent because there are no worthwhile modifiers on mindsooth, it takes less than a second to cast if you master it)
also my boyfriend plays fade trimmer for pvp over dawnwalker because he grills our friend group to have good coms so he can bulk heal us (blindseer would be better for this but he enjoys playing fadetrimmer, so we get value out of it)
I need you so bad
Quit rambling, V1 builds had like 300-425 hp MAX, now most builds hit 500 easily...
@@VortexIV_ bro clearly did not have a 104 hp drowned celestial demon mask laugh at this man (my average builds had around 600-700 hp)
@@VortexIV_ shirafune had a build with like 800 hp items back then gave way more hp
run it back camped can also be countered using wind passage on the end of the bell, you get tped to ur wind passage location instead of your run it back location
Lets go, the man is back again. The alchemist himself.
4:03 It's actually 400 or more because if you have 500 it means you are not going be doing as much damage as you could be doing and if you have less than 400 you doing the peak of dmg but you don't have the hp to tank a combo like true combo you can't parry or block or dodge something that and 400 is the middle of things because you don't want to have too much hp and losing too much dmg but you don't to have to much dmg and losing too much health
Oathless is the real underdog.
and linkstrider too
oathless and linkstrider are both REALLY good once you get the hang of it :D
@@speedlife735 Oathless is good solely because it allows you to bring out the full potential of any given build without being bogged down by oath abilities.
i followed your previous linkstrider videos and i have to thank you for that since i have no idea how to play support until i washed your video. As for my build, i went 50 thundercall preshrine for spark swap and static flashclones and 75 charisma for vom, as for post shrine, i went 20 str for pillars of erisia (the moce you showed in your video) and 60 galebreath for the gale jump, gale dash and the specter path since im dodging alot. I went 90 intel for potions and bombs, 50 fortitude for the shield and the rare talents, i ended up with 543 hp and as for my bell i went run it back. I was wonfering if you could tell me how I can make this better? I have a sinners ash and i could corrupt my run it back if you can tell me its worth it. Also anothr question, does run it back hyperamor let me chug potions while im getting hit and it doesn't cancel? Thank you for your time 👑
Do your have any footage of you actually playing support if so can you show?
I like to think of blindseer as a mini support but that sightless beam does some big damage
This Video is like actually like an adult talking to a room of children lol. In all seriousness Linkstrider is really good and was my favorite oath on L2 release
the best support build is a build that turn you're ops into a fine unrecognizable paste, have a good day.
a couple months ago I was doing void walker bounties and saw a bunch of kids at entropy catalyst and I stole I link strider the guy sacrificed his friends for, that builds over 100 now and its still cracked for banking
I mainly play saltchemist (not a support, i just like the oath/potions) and my support slot is a linkstrider
:)
I’m watching this while having a bath
OMG LINKSTRIDER META!!!
My only gripe with link is the TP aspect being kinda trash. I assume its purpose is to be used to fast travel to a friends general location (which is what it should be if it isn’t) I suppose it might be too busted but I think it’s a shame that like, half of the oath has just been collecting dust since its introduction.
Also uhh, what does Overcharm do? I have it on a build and don’t really know what it does, just got it because I like the visual.
applies charm per m1
I'm not sure but I think that command live has a 10 min cd for the caster
It’s a visual bug I’ve tried
That's cool but I'm still a Salt-Supremacists.
linkstrider is good but its so hard to use since i never go high intel on my builds as im so hesistant to collect all the potion materials
If your not a fan of potions you can still get linkstrider and vow of mastery for a semi support build. I made one with frostdraw, linkstrider, and vow of mastery and even though I wasn't supporting with ether drain potions. My allies still did a huge amount of dmg and alot of dmg resistance from the buffs I was granting them
there was a bug with saltchemist that upon reverting a potion only reverted 1st ingridient, dont know if they fixed it or not though.
Why didnt you mention the antiheal ring?
Forgot this existed
Uhh okay? Just get the “Underdog” talent card and the you’ll have room for a different, better support oath (salt chemist).
Bloodless or Wind gem for parasitic leech?
I prefer bloodless
Bloodless if one of your teammates is a Contractor, Wind gem if you play with people who like to run around and secure quick combos
As a frostdraw main... i can say that ice daggers... is NOT good for catching in the slightest
ice daggers is more of a feint tool and if they parry ice daggers they get a speed boost from fast blade, so i say that lightning strike is DEBATEABLY better for catching (the super long lighting strike version not the short one)
and ice daggers is KINDA slow.... at least in travel time compared to others and there is no REAL modifiers that can speed up ice daggers
Edit: i know ima get heat on this but ice daggers just FEEL slow after i used it for a while, by all means you can STILL use ice daggers it is just my opinion (CAN A PERSON NOT HAVE A OPINION?)
In a support playstyle, you use ice daggers on who your friend is fighting. It’s free pressure + a stun if it lands
@@actualplastic2190 i understand now, but the people i fight are in a such focused state that they just parry it most of the time :C
God of Support pls make a fun support build for me
This is all lies saltchemist will always be the best oath in the game as it is simply superior to any pvp or pve or support oath. It also promotes global equality and peacefulness because you don’t have to brutally murder four whole people to get. Clearly misinformed and bad 😠
I main linkstrider :D
a lot of yap but im listening
Nah I'd saltchemist
I hate the fact the the actual best support oath (jetstriker) has not been mentioned, 15% heal and some other buffs will never beat a trackstar, 9 out of 10 times a good trackstar will be able to save whoever has to be saved, with the exception being the presence of another trackstar, but even then you can steal the person back with spark swap. Also whoever uses starkindred for a trackstar build should shut up since a slightly longer air dash won't ever beat the enhanced dashes and wall climbing from jetstriker. Also I'm not trying to say that I dislike linkstrider, since I used to use it myself, but besides live command if the person who is getting the support from linkstrider gets knocked its pretty much over.
What about pve
Saltchemist ngl
blindseer
actually saltchemist is the best support lol get good
edit: if you want to convince me otherwise then stop gatekeeping your "best support build", you claim to have the evidence yet never show it so until I see it, saltchemist is the best support oath.
Did you even watch the video 😂
the best support in the entire game runs linkstrider.
saltchemist is less of a support build and more for skirmishing like wiseliston using tp poser saltchemist
@@Nephxs learn how to use saltchemist then, saltchemist is a very powerful "offensive support" build.
@@actualplastic2190 you simply just dont know how to play support thats all
@@DoneThatSeenThat wise is the best saltchemist in the game? its undeniably powerful but the support it provides ur group is worse than the best linkstrider. if u gank at a high level you would know this
another plastic upload