Josh late I’m. Telling you man we almost always agree if Texas losses they should be out and should be been out last year lost to a team sitting at home on the couch championship weekend and jumped UGa was horse shit.
I said this weeks ago tagged you on Twitter before ole Miss UGA game that I wanted UGA to win so Bama doesn’t make sec championships you get a free bye and in at large I’d rather get in at large then lose a 3rd game. The army is already at the gate man. We already sniff the bullshit and if Indiana thinks they can beat Bama let’s go to Lucas oil and see then. If Penn state or Notre dame which hasn’t beat baba and UGA in recent memory let’s see it. Once they do it then we can start putting the Indianas and byu teams up there. Indiana or Penn state has no past merit to work off of.
Danny Kannell is delusional. We don’t hold Georgia and Indiana to the same standard because Georgia played the hardest schedule in the country while Indiana was like 103rd or something ridiculous. Stop these disingenuous arguments.
I’m fairly sure he’s a troll that does it as personal entertainment like Finebaum does. I struggle to believe he actually believes the arguments he puts out.
No because Ohio state has the hardest schedule in the country this year by a mile and they’re ranked where they should be. 3 top 5 teams and a chance to play the number 1 team twice
@@lukk_083 no team in the sec has had to play 3 top 5 teams. Ohio state has, and Michigan has played 4 top 5 teams. Sec schedules are soft as warm butter in comparison, except Mississippi state
GA went undefeated in the regular season but lost by 3 points in the SECCG and they put Texas in the playoffs instead. You cannot trust the committee to have any integrity or morals. Whatever they say doesn’t matter because you know they will judge the conference championship game and dump on the losers.
You just described what they did to Georgia last year after they lost the SEC Championship game by 3 points and dropped to 5 out of the playoffs 😂 Of course they’ll do it again.
Who is Penn St's best win? Illinois? Who is Indiana's? Purdue? Who is Texas's? Vanderbilt? Notre Dame's? A&M? Miami's? Florida? Bama's is UGA but who is their second? LSU? Ole Miss is Georgia but who is their second? Wake Forest? Georgia's is Texas. Second best is Tennessee. Third best is Clemson. 3 ranked. This ranking is insanity
I couldn’t agree more . Georgia of all of these teams have the best leg to stand on… ole miss was a bad bad lose, but bama and vandy was worse , tenn at ark was worse, ole miss has way worse losses. But was I will say, Indiana hasn’t lost to a single team. They don’t have the win, but if they are one lose to Ohio state, they would 100% should be rating higher than most of these 2 loss SEC teams.
But you have to take losses into account too. Georgia has 2 losses. Even though Indiana has a weak schedule, they’re still undefeated in a power 2 conference. That means something. And they still have to play Ohio State. Notre Dame will play undefeated army. Texas plays Texas AM. Some of this will sort itself out
Yeah as a longhorns fan their schedule is 10 ply soft in conference. They need to beat the Aggies by quite a bit to have a top 10 conference win. They were banking on beating Georgia but that didn’t happen. I hate that they would make the argument about leading the SEC as the way to get to the playoffs
Georgia at 10 is baffling. They have the best wins in the entirety of college football by quite a bit. 2 losses to top 10 ranked teams away. Beating no.1 team away. Toughest schedule by anyone in playoff contention by a country mile. Like....what?
Time of ranking doesn’t matter. It’s the end result that matters. Texas could lose to Texas AM (my money says they do), and Texas would be ranked 13-15. Good win but not the best. Oregon had a win against the current #2. That’s the best win this year.
And who would you put Georgia ahead of? You can’t put them above Ole Miss or Alabama because you lost to them. Oregon and Indiana are undefeated in the Power 2. Maybe Notre Dame, but that’s it.
@@derekarnold9 Oregon beat current number 2 OSU at home by one point, less than the margin of home field advantage, meaning that likely would be expected to be a loss at a neutral site. Georgia beat current number 3 Texas AT TEXAS by 15. Objectively, Oregon does NOT have the best win of the year. They should still be number one, because they have no losses and the OSU win is AMONG the best wins this year, but certainly it is not THE best.
@@nathanreed8281 the margin of home field advantage is not an exact science. And you can’t do “maybes” and “what ifs”. No presumptions. Only facts matter. Ohio State has a win against a top 5 team (Penn state) and we know they have an elite roster. Oregons win against them is the best win. Why? Because who has Texas beaten? Their best win is against a 6-6 Michigan team. Beating them isn’t impressive.
@@derekarnold9 Here is a better question, do you want college football to go to a format where for 12 weeks teams like Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, etc. schedule only cupcake teams? Do you want to see the good teams play NO tough opponents because that might risk a loss? I don't think any rational person wants that. The simple fact is though that if win/loss ratio is valued entirely over schedule difficulty, that is what you will end up with. Why would Georgia accept a schedule like the one it has this year playing Alabama, Texas, Clemson, Ole Miss, and Tennessee, when the easiest path to the playoffs is to schedule only teams that are consistently in the bottom halves of their conferences and likely from weaker conferences at that. Alabama, Ole Miss, Georgia and Tennessee SHOULD be above Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, and Miami. Penn State lost to Ohio State, their only ranked win is against Illinois(25, and overrated even at 25). Indiana hasn't played a ranked team yet this year, either ranked at the time, OR currently. If they lose to Ohio State they shouldn't be in the top 20. Notre Dame has a good win vs Texas A&M, and wins against Louisville and Navy who were ranked at the time, but aren't now. They have a BAD loss though. The Northern Illinois loss AT HOME is significantly worse than Alabama losing to Vandy at Vandy. Notre Dame deserves to be top 1`2, but not ahead of the four SEC teams that have played way tougher schedules. This is the only one that I would consider debatable though. You can make a non-stupid argument on NDs behalf. Miami hasn't played a ranked team all year and has a fairly bad loss to Georgia Tech. Your argument of being unable to rank Georgia above Ole Miss or Bama is flawed too, since Texas is ranked above Georgia and we know how that game went. Georgia has 2 losses, one close and one bad, but both against top 10 teams. Ole Miss lost to Kentucky and Bama lost to Vandy. Texas has one loss, to Georgia, and hasn't played anyone else good all year. One could argue that a two loss Georgia has performed better than a 1 loss Texas, given the differences in their schedules.(In fairness to Texas, it is not entirely their fault, they can't be blamed for Oklahoma and Michigan being dumpster fires. You can only make a schedule based on what you EXPECT a team to be.) Realistically, out of the top 25 teams, there are maybe 3-5 teams that you would expect even have a CHANCE to have gone 8-2 with Georgia's schedule. For my taste, I think teams should be rewarded for playing tough games, not punished. It makes the sport more watchable, and since you can't achieve parity in the way the NFL does, it is the ONLY way to encourage teams to play real opponents.
Southern teams that are all ranked lower going to play cold weather games on the road… they’re not supposed to have the odds in their favor. Red hot Tennessee was -8.5 @ georgia even tho Georgia came off an embarrassing loss to ole miss and has looked shaky all year. Home field ALWAYS has the odds heavy in their favor in college unless something is very wrong. These lines say that one set of teams are wayyy better than the other…
For years I've heard Big 10 fans talk about how the SEC couldn't handle playing in the cold Midwest in December. Kinda hoping this scenario plays out because it would be absolutely hilarious if that theory was completely blown up in the first expanded playoff.
Matchups matter more than weather, but both conferences hustle the system in different ways. For B1G them dominating the major metro areas gives them undue influence. For the SEC it's working the system so that their bad to middling teams get treated like world-beaters to prop up the 2 or 3 top teams.
Indiana's non-conference schedule is FIU, Charlotte & Western Illinois. By contrast, UGA's non-conference is Clemson, UMass & Georgia Tech. Indiana in-conference plays 1 ranked team. Georgia's in-conference is 4 ranked teams, all Top 10. Yet an 11-1 Indiana may very well get a higher seed than a 10-2 Georgia. That's how crooked -- not just flawed but crooked -- this committee is.
so do it like NFL you win your conference or in the conference championship game no your in. Let it play out. if the team is good they play like it. still get the 10 teams in that play conference championships. than the non championship independents play the 3 and 4th ranked teams. but they get no bye .
As an Ohio state fan I agree with you. You put GA against Indi at a neutral site who you taking? It’s really gonna matter on Saturday how they play against Ohio State. Hopefully we roll them because I’d rather have Georgia in that Indi. I want the best teams in possible to prove the champion is the best. Not to mention I still have ptsd of that missed field goal at the stroke of midnight. 😂
@@BuckeyeBeta Yeah I would love a rematch between UGA and OSU, would be another great game. But I'd rather it be late, finals or semi-finals... no point either team going down too soon. I'm hoping you guys blow Indiana off the map because in fairness I think it will make way for a better team overall. But if Indiana pulls off the miracle, then it deserves to be in. You may have ptsd, but I had 4 heart-attacks and spent 2 weeks in ICU. lol
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Didn't forget, but if the Irish beat Army then they'd have 4 ranked wins plus a 9 game winning streak. Did everyone forget that Vandy beat Bama. Most of these top seeded SEC teams have 2 losses already as well. Let's Go Fighting Irish ☘☘☘
BYU was rank 6 in week 11. They're now rank 14 going into week 12. I think it's clear how the committee feels about these low sos teams when they lose 1 game.
@@sunsetsolutions4820 Is that why? Adding up the non-conference slate for Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon and Indiana, 12 games total, here are the results: 1 ranked opponent, 3 power 5 unranked opponents, 9 unranked non-power 5 opponents. Yeah I see what you mean, which is: "I don't know anything but I'm gonna make an argument based on untruths."
Texas' biggest crux is their strength of schedule. I'm a Longhorn fan, and we got screwed over by our s.o.s. It sucks the ranked teams we did beat turned out to be dog shit
Thats what the projected line would start at with the home team giving up 1.5 which is like saying 4.5 because usually home field is around 3 point advantage but immediately everyone would jump on that betting the sec teams win by more which in return would make it go up and up till the betting leveled out in case you didn't know
@ayan... A hypothetical two-loss Texas REALLY would be more deserving than a one loss Indiana. Indiana chose to schedule peroneal dogs and D2 schools as non-conference opponents. Texas scheduled Michigan in the Shoe and three D1 schools, including UTSA, who was a 10-win D1 a couple years back. Indiana signed up for mediocrity and is winning. Texas signed up for a challenge, but uncharacteristically poor years from multiple foes (MI, OU, UTSA) is letting them down. HOPEFULLY they use it as motivation to steamroll KY and aTm.
No matter how you slice it this 12 team has a great idea with the execution where a Boise state could be in the top four and have a bye. But the SEC run up can’t make it to the playoffs. Bizarre.
We need to: 1. Have a 14 game season. 2. Have a mathematical ranking system the has zero references to a particular conference, and that everyone agrees to. Have it be completely transparent, and devoid of human input.
This is a simple fix. Take top 3 teams from each power 5 conference and 1 at large bid to highest ranked independent and play ball. 16 team playoff. Thoughts?
Why can't we have Josh Pate on the CFP show instead of Booger McFarland? Boog made himself look so dumb after he backed Florida State last year. He is still going on about putting the "most deserving" teams lol btw I watched that video with Josh and Danny and I wrote a comment pretty much explaining why Josh and Danny Kanell are on two different levels. Danny is a complete moron! That video was freaking hilarious 🤣
when u have to play a championship game and u lose, it means u can be kicked out of the playoff picture. which means a team on the outside who is waiting for someone to lose has an opportunity to slip in even though they dont have to play that extra game. this is the issue with championship games. teams who qualify will be punished for losing when teams who dont can be rewarded with a playoff berth. the best example of this was USC a few years ago. they were the 4th seed and went on to lose the pac 12 championship to utah (they played an extra game). ohio state, who didnt even qualify for their championship game (they lost to michigan) slips into the playoff without having to play that extra game.
This is absolutely a horrendous first foot forward for the CFBC. How in the WORLD is Notre Dame rewarded by losing to a TERRIBLE NIU team at HOME and given a chance to host a playoff game in the first round? Who just got dominated again btw. How in the WORLD is Penn State in the same situation for their BEST game not being blown out by Ohio State? Weird…seems like this will echo chamber with Indiana as well if they don’t get blown out as well. Deplorable. How in the world did Miami move up in the rankings during a bye week after losing to an unranked banged up Georgia Tech team after multiple gifted wins? Yet UGA moved up 2 spots for beating #7 TN in a dominant fashion. This is awful. I would love to travel to the parallel universe the committee lives in and see what they’re supposedly “studying” in these meetings. Seems like a lot of brand and money bias with ZERO regard for SOS. That’s the only way you explain why bama, ole miss and UGA are sitting as road teams with the comparison of SOS & quality wins.
I'm a Texas fan but I agree with your assessment of if they lose either of these next 2 games they shouldn't be in the playoffs. The one time we played somebody with like talent we got embarrassed at home.
Need a full 16 team playoff & no conference championship games. CFP rankings are only 1-16 for the month of November. Make whatever rule you need to have a certain number of conferences represented in that 16.
Know what I just heard? Josh Pate making a case for a 16 team playoff. Solves the "lumpy scheduling" delima, as a 1-loss Indiana or 2-loss Texas would be "in." Also solves the "better to be the 5-seed" issue. The further from the top you push down the "beauty pageant," the better.
there will always be a debate to raise the amount of teams. It happened with the BCS. It happened with the 4 team playoff. It is happening now. It would happen at 16 teams. And on and on and on...
@shane87smith Again, IMO the farther from the top the beauty pageant decision cut off is, the better. Team sports are decided on the field. Leave the judges and politics to gymnastics and figure skating.
When teams were punished in the 4 team playoff for losing their CCG no one absolutely blew up over it. Why should it be different now? If you drop a spot of 2 or 3. You lost, long as you're still in the playoffs. No one should say shit. Win and you won't have to worry about it.
I love how everything about Texas is being pinned on the Texas A&M game. Let Texas cling to that. Check the schedule before that. If you don't think Kentucky can beat Texas, ask Ole Miss what they think. Is it likely? Probably not, but how likely was Vandy beating Alabama?
2022 and 2023: “Georgia plays nobody they cruise through the SEC Least and have 0 OOC comp and gets rewarded for it” 2024: Georgia gets the 3rd hardest schedule in the country and gets nothing for it. so by this logic, just schedule a bunch of nobodies to the best of your ability, let the conference commissioner put you on a pedestal and prop you up.
Except they didn't even reward Georgia for it last year. They lost to their biggest competition in the championship game and got knocked out of the playoffs in favor of Texas, who lost to Oklahoma and got destroyed by Washington
You obviously don't follow NCAA football - in 2022 UGA played 7 top 25 teams, won 7, lost 0, and played/beat 3 top 6 teams. No one else in the country came close to UGA's schedule that year. How many top 25 teams did your team beat in 2022?
Sagarin rated the best model through Week 12 has Boise's SOS at 91 yet they're getting all kinds of credit for losing close to Oregon before Oregon figured out their offense then skated through a terrible G5 schedule. Best wins: UNLV #50, Wash St #59. They should not be ranked higher than 20th. It's a crime to rank them ahead of the top two Big 12 teams.
Well, they did leave Georgia out last year after only losing to Alabama. And it was in the sec championship game. That said I don’t see why Indiana would be left in if they take a loss to Ohio State.
Another thought- how come no one’s talking about what is Notre Dames best win? Texas A&M? Big deal. Almost all cupcake games. Talking about cupcake games, Alabamas schedule? Only eight conference games and Wisconsin. Oregon- 1 cupcake game and 11 power conference game, except Oregon State.
Its crazy that even though all those other leagues play 9 conference games their SOS still doesn't match up with the SEC and their 8 conference games 😂
As for the SEC championship game loser being "punished", there's still a number of ways that point could become moot. If Texas makes the SECCG at 11-1 and then loses, they still only have 2 overall losses so they're getting in, probably as the 6 seed. ((Let's say Indiana loses a close one to Oregon in the Big 12 title game: they would get the 5 seed because they only have one loss and Texas would have 2.) If Notre Dame loses to Army, that opens a spot for the SECCG loser to slide into nicely even if it's a 10-3 team. Let's say some crazy scenario occurs where a team with 3 overall losses makes the SECCG and loses: even Greg Sankey would concede that a 9-4 team shouldn't be in. And if going into conf. champ. week there's only 4 SEC teams left with 2 or fewer overall losses, and one of those teams loses in the SECCG, they could still be the 4th SEC team in the bracket at 10-3, because they're 1 win better than the 9-3 teams. So there's no need to panic yet: That's why Mr. Manuel was noncommittal, he wants to wait and see what the situation actually is first.
19:34 Precedent was technically set with TCU. They lost their title game, but they never moved a spot. Granted, they lost to a team they had already beaten, but they didn't drop them AT ALL. Which, I'm sure was done because they wanted the Michigan-OSU rematch to be the natty. However, they both failed the first round. Just saying, that may come up in the room when they're deciding.
I still can't believe that happened. And then the next year bama barely beats Georgia who was #1 and they fall all the way to #5. make it make sense. makes me sick
“The SEC is a week in and week out gauntlet”. Texas comes in at the top of the conference. “Texas hasn’t played anyone, the best win is Vanderbilt”. What the hell is it then? It’s glorious watching them expose that BS.
You can be in the Big 10 and have a hard schedule. You can be in the Big 10 and have an easy schedule. You can be in the SEC and have a hard schedule and you can be in the SEC and have an easy schedule. It’s not intentional that Texas schedule is easy. It just so happened that in 2024 Oklahoma and Florida were bad. If they had been good, Texas schedule would have been more respectable.
Nope. It's just that the SEC purposely put mostly SEC bottom-dwellers on Texas' schedule. It's still tougher than a Big 10 schedule. There's such a thing as context.
Miami struggles nearly every game get beat by unranked GT, drops 4 spots. PennSt hasn’t beat a ranked team yet Indiana hasn’t played a ranked team or barely 1 over .500 Ohios only marquee win is over an inflated PennSt. TX lost at home to the only tough team they played by 2 TDs UGA gets beat on the road by ranked Ole Miss drops 9 spots Ranking committee --“no there’s no bias here” UGA last season goes undefeated regular season loses conference championship, voted out the playoffs despite having better resume than Michigan, TX and Washington Playoff committee--“there’s no bias here”
@joshpatecfb how do you think the playoff will restructure? 16 teams no byes, ranks decided before conference champ week so no one can get knocked out?
If Indiana plays any SEC team in the playoffs it will be a blowout like the Georgia vs TCU game was. It seems like strength of schedule doesn't matter with committee.
I’d put Ohio State over a team like Tennessee personally or even Georgia. Still think they haven’t played anyone actually good but they do have talent.
Josh Pate here! Yeah so losses always count as double for non southern teams, therefore Ohio state would be out. And since Ohio state would be out that win Indiana has over them wouldn’t look so good anymore since they wouldn’t have played anyone good and they’d drop a few spots as well. Hope that answered your question
With Ewers at QB, Texas has no chance to beat A&M. The Kyle Field atmosphere (presumably with a conference title game at stake) is going to be insane and will rattle Quinn and the Longhorn O line. The TX offense will make a boat load of mistakes. A 10-2 Texas team will not make the CFP due to the weak SOS. A&M will then lose the SEC title game and also be out, with 3 losses. The CFP will have UGA, Bama, and Ole Miss.
So what happens if Illinois loses to Rutgers Saturday and Penn state wins out. Does Penn state get left out too? It’ll be the same thing as Indiana yet somehow Penn state is rated as the 3/6 team?
Josh I don't think you understand, I don't actually think you're what you're record says you are, I just don't think that matters. Boise getting a first round bye while Alabama has to go to Notre Dame is an entertaining story line. I think it would be awesome and it's why I follow this sport. You can't get david vs goliath in the NFL. College football being a bit goofier and less sterile and predictable is why the sport is entertaining. It's why everyone loves the NCAA tournament even though no sane person would think it's a good objective way to determine a champion. It's a terrible format but it's fantastic anyway and shouldn't change. You've said it yourself, this is the entertainment buisness, I follow College football way more than the NFL for a reason. You're right, if this playoff brakcet stood you bet your ass i would bet (if sports gambling was legal in my state) on Ohio State to beat both BYU and Boise 100/100. As an oregon fan, I would think it's unfair that we have play bama or notre dame while Ohio State would basically get a likely free pass to the final four. And I still wouldn't change a single thin about the process. This is the first season i've ever actually bothered to consistently watch SEC games because the 12 team playoff has made so many more games matter than normal. I wouldn't change it for the world, formatting and everything.
Can we stop saying that Texas has done absolutely nothing. And then go and say another team beat them so it's a great win. You can't have it both ways.
Why are you okay with PSU being in? I don’t get it? If IU losses to OSU they are out but Penn state already did and hasn’t played anyone else and they are sitting at 4
Deserving or best teams? People were saying FSU was most deserving because they went undefeated, but they had a weak schedule. Bama with one regular season loss to playoff team Texas early beat two time defending national champs GA with a 28 game win streak for the SEC championship. The proof Bama was the best was they played national champ Michigan closer than anybody else but finally lost in OT after actually leading with four minutes left. GA blew FSU out of the stadium. I say always play the best teams not the most "deserving"
How about we view this as individual teams and not about what conference you're in, just like the NFL. Yeah technically the 4-5 team in the tough division can whip the 7-2 team in the easy division. It doesn't matter there... it shouldn't matter in college football.
Make them go up north it’ll make up for all the years where northern teams have to go down south. if the SEC is the best conference, they should have to travel for once in their goddamn lives
If they end up losing they would still have a loss to the number one team in the nation on the road by one point. Thats better than any two loss SEC team can say.
Texas may not have a quality win, but they survived the gauntlet of the SEC; where any team can beat any team on a given Saturday. Texas beat Arkansas, Kentucky, and Vandy. Tennessee couldn't beat Arkansas. Ole Miss couldn't beat Kentucky. Alabama couldn't beat Vandy.
Kanell is funny but HORRIBLE at CFB takes. I used to listen to his podcast but he was SOOOOOOO whiny about FSU that I had to finally stop listening. I like seeing Indiana do well. I like when the underdogs win. If they have to play Bama, UGA, Teas, or Ole Miss, they are DONE! They can't keep up with a true POWER team. We'll see when they play OSU.
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Josh late I’m. Telling you man we almost always agree if Texas losses they should be out and should be been out last year lost to a team sitting at home on the couch championship weekend and jumped UGa was horse shit.
I said this weeks ago tagged you on Twitter before ole Miss UGA game that I wanted UGA to win so Bama doesn’t make sec championships you get a free bye and in at large I’d rather get in at large then lose a 3rd game. The army is already at the gate man. We already sniff the bullshit and if Indiana thinks they can beat Bama let’s go to Lucas oil and see then. If Penn state or Notre dame which hasn’t beat baba and UGA in recent memory let’s see it. Once they do it then we can start putting the Indianas and byu teams up there. Indiana or Penn state has no past merit to work off of.
15 minutes into the video and I just realized why something feels off. Josh has a black shirt on
Damn I just realized that. The universe is off for sure
Josh Pate villain arc incoming 😈
omg no wonder I've been uncomfortable!
Danny Kannell is delusional. We don’t hold Georgia and Indiana to the same standard because Georgia played the hardest schedule in the country while Indiana was like 103rd or something ridiculous. Stop these disingenuous arguments.
I’m fairly sure he’s a troll that does it as personal entertainment like Finebaum does. I struggle to believe he actually believes the arguments he puts out.
Notre Dame has known all along the 5 seed is the best seat at the table.
Followed right by Bama to Vandy.😂
According to the committee strength of schedule means nothing I guess
No because Ohio state has the hardest schedule in the country this year by a mile and they’re ranked where they should be. 3 top 5 teams and a chance to play the number 1 team twice
Good ole committee knows SoS is a bullshit fabricated number stemming from shitty preseason rankings
@@Nintendofan184ooh close but OSU has the 28th hardest SoS. 13 out of 16 SEC schools rank higher and the top 6 are all sec schools with GA topping it
@@lukk_083 no team in the sec has had to play 3 top 5 teams. Ohio state has, and Michigan has played 4 top 5 teams. Sec schedules are soft as warm butter in comparison, except Mississippi state
Because strength of record is more important than strength of schedule.
GA went undefeated in the regular season but lost by 3 points in the SECCG and they put Texas in the playoffs instead. You cannot trust the committee to have any integrity or morals. Whatever they say doesn’t matter because you know they will judge the conference championship game and dump on the losers.
Head to head string of results (which the committee is ignoring a lot (SMU ranked above BYU))
Maybe don't lose to the team texas beat on the road by double digits. They supposed to leave them out because Georgia loss?
Texas won their conference and beat Alabama on the road unlike Georgia
You just described what they did to Georgia last year after they lost the SEC Championship game by 3 points and dropped to 5 out of the playoffs 😂 Of course they’ll do it again.
Who is Penn St's best win? Illinois?
Who is Indiana's? Purdue?
Who is Texas's? Vanderbilt?
Notre Dame's? A&M?
Miami's? Florida?
Bama's is UGA but who is their second? LSU?
Ole Miss is Georgia but who is their second? Wake Forest?
Georgia's is Texas. Second best is Tennessee. Third best is Clemson. 3 ranked.
This ranking is insanity
byu has a win that’s better than a good amount of the top 10 in smu
I couldn’t agree more . Georgia of all of these teams have the best leg to stand on… ole miss was a bad bad lose, but bama and vandy was worse , tenn at ark was worse, ole miss has way worse losses. But was I will say, Indiana hasn’t lost to a single team. They don’t have the win, but if they are one lose to Ohio state, they would 100% should be rating higher than most of these 2 loss SEC teams.
But you have to take losses into account too. Georgia has 2 losses. Even though Indiana has a weak schedule, they’re still undefeated in a power 2 conference. That means something. And they still have to play Ohio State. Notre Dame will play undefeated army. Texas plays Texas AM. Some of this will sort itself out
If South Carolina continues its roll, that’s a very quality win for Bama. Georgia has a blowout loss, which hurts more than losing by 7 or less.
Yeah as a longhorns fan their schedule is 10 ply soft in conference. They need to beat the Aggies by quite a bit to have a top 10 conference win. They were banking on beating Georgia but that didn’t happen. I hate that they would make the argument about leading the SEC as the way to get to the playoffs
I would so easily take all 3 SEC school for the The projected fanduel lines
Anyone who isn't 8 inches deep of choking on B1G copium would.
You should wait to see the weather. Especially Notre Dame where it could snow by then or be below freezing.
Georgia at 10 is baffling. They have the best wins in the entirety of college football by quite a bit. 2 losses to top 10 ranked teams away. Beating no.1 team away. Toughest schedule by anyone in playoff contention by a country mile. Like....what?
Time of ranking doesn’t matter. It’s the end result that matters. Texas could lose to Texas AM (my money says they do), and Texas would be ranked 13-15. Good win but not the best. Oregon had a win against the current #2. That’s the best win this year.
And who would you put Georgia ahead of? You can’t put them above Ole Miss or Alabama because you lost to them. Oregon and Indiana are undefeated in the Power 2. Maybe Notre Dame, but that’s it.
@@derekarnold9 Oregon beat current number 2 OSU at home by one point, less than the margin of home field advantage, meaning that likely would be expected to be a loss at a neutral site. Georgia beat current number 3 Texas AT TEXAS by 15. Objectively, Oregon does NOT have the best win of the year. They should still be number one, because they have no losses and the OSU win is AMONG the best wins this year, but certainly it is not THE best.
@@nathanreed8281 the margin of home field advantage is not an exact science. And you can’t do “maybes” and “what ifs”. No presumptions. Only facts matter. Ohio State has a win against a top 5 team (Penn state) and we know they have an elite roster. Oregons win against them is the best win. Why? Because who has Texas beaten? Their best win is against a 6-6 Michigan team. Beating them isn’t impressive.
@@derekarnold9 Here is a better question, do you want college football to go to a format where for 12 weeks teams like Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, etc. schedule only cupcake teams? Do you want to see the good teams play NO tough opponents because that might risk a loss? I don't think any rational person wants that. The simple fact is though that if win/loss ratio is valued entirely over schedule difficulty, that is what you will end up with. Why would Georgia accept a schedule like the one it has this year playing Alabama, Texas, Clemson, Ole Miss, and Tennessee, when the easiest path to the playoffs is to schedule only teams that are consistently in the bottom halves of their conferences and likely from weaker conferences at that. Alabama, Ole Miss, Georgia and Tennessee SHOULD be above Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, and Miami. Penn State lost to Ohio State, their only ranked win is against Illinois(25, and overrated even at 25). Indiana hasn't played a ranked team yet this year, either ranked at the time, OR currently. If they lose to Ohio State they shouldn't be in the top 20. Notre Dame has a good win vs Texas A&M, and wins against Louisville and Navy who were ranked at the time, but aren't now. They have a BAD loss though. The Northern Illinois loss AT HOME is significantly worse than Alabama losing to Vandy at Vandy. Notre Dame deserves to be top 1`2, but not ahead of the four SEC teams that have played way tougher schedules. This is the only one that I would consider debatable though. You can make a non-stupid argument on NDs behalf. Miami hasn't played a ranked team all year and has a fairly bad loss to Georgia Tech. Your argument of being unable to rank Georgia above Ole Miss or Bama is flawed too, since Texas is ranked above Georgia and we know how that game went. Georgia has 2 losses, one close and one bad, but both against top 10 teams. Ole Miss lost to Kentucky and Bama lost to Vandy. Texas has one loss, to Georgia, and hasn't played anyone else good all year. One could argue that a two loss Georgia has performed better than a 1 loss Texas, given the differences in their schedules.(In fairness to Texas, it is not entirely their fault, they can't be blamed for Oklahoma and Michigan being dumpster fires. You can only make a schedule based on what you EXPECT a team to be.) Realistically, out of the top 25 teams, there are maybe 3-5 teams that you would expect even have a CHANCE to have gone 8-2 with Georgia's schedule. For my taste, I think teams should be rewarded for playing tough games, not punished. It makes the sport more watchable, and since you can't achieve parity in the way the NFL does, it is the ONLY way to encourage teams to play real opponents.
Wow 3 first round games with 1 point spreads. Sounds like the committee did a terrible job making competitive matchups.
Southern teams that are all ranked lower going to play cold weather games on the road… they’re not supposed to have the odds in their favor. Red hot Tennessee was -8.5 @ georgia even tho Georgia came off an embarrassing loss to ole miss and has looked shaky all year. Home field ALWAYS has the odds heavy in their favor in college unless something is very wrong. These lines say that one set of teams are wayyy better than the other…
exactly what the other commenter said, if the other teams were traveling to the Southern team stadiums they'd all be 7 point favorites, as lower seeds
For years I've heard Big 10 fans talk about how the SEC couldn't handle playing in the cold Midwest in December. Kinda hoping this scenario plays out because it would be absolutely hilarious if that theory was completely blown up in the first expanded playoff.
Matchups matter more than weather, but both conferences hustle the system in different ways. For B1G them dominating the major metro areas gives them undue influence. For the SEC it's working the system so that their bad to middling teams get treated like world-beaters to prop up the 2 or 3 top teams.
Facts. Let’s hope everyone wins out so the seedings hold form 😂
@@johnhenry2903 like how Illinois is a top 25 team for no reason? 15 of 16 SEC teams are in the top 50 of the FPI. Only half the Big10 is.
We had a PAC-12 when this format was formulated.
Indiana's non-conference schedule is FIU, Charlotte & Western Illinois. By contrast, UGA's non-conference is Clemson, UMass & Georgia Tech. Indiana in-conference plays 1 ranked team. Georgia's in-conference is 4 ranked teams, all Top 10. Yet an 11-1 Indiana may very well get a higher seed than a 10-2 Georgia. That's how crooked -- not just flawed but crooked -- this committee is.
so do it like NFL you win your conference or in the conference championship game no your in. Let it play out. if the team is good they play like it. still get the 10 teams in that play conference championships. than the non championship independents play the 3 and 4th ranked teams. but they get no bye .
As an Ohio state fan I agree with you. You put GA against Indi at a neutral site who you taking? It’s really gonna matter on Saturday how they play against Ohio State. Hopefully we roll them because I’d rather have Georgia in that Indi. I want the best teams in possible to prove the champion is the best. Not to mention I still have ptsd of that missed field goal at the stroke of midnight. 😂
@@BuckeyeBeta Yeah I would love a rematch between UGA and OSU, would be another great game. But I'd rather it be late, finals or semi-finals... no point either team going down too soon. I'm hoping you guys blow Indiana off the map because in fairness I think it will make way for a better team overall. But if Indiana pulls off the miracle, then it deserves to be in. You may have ptsd, but I had 4 heart-attacks and spent 2 weeks in ICU. lol
@ Thank God you’re still with us brother! I love the passion and agree with you fully. I wish all fans were respectful and open to opinions like you. Respect 👍🏽
A 1.5 point spread is basically a pickum game😂. Come on Josh that doesn’t mean anything
We’re just gonna forget about notre dame having the worst loss in the top 25?
Didn't forget, but if the Irish beat Army then they'd have 4 ranked wins plus a 9 game winning streak. Did everyone forget that Vandy beat Bama. Most of these top seeded SEC teams have 2 losses already as well. Let's Go Fighting Irish ☘☘☘
God forgave them for that sin so we shall not hold it against them.
No we didn’t forget you gotta remember we ever other game we played including A&M
Love how much everyone is trying to build up a potential win vs Army which is one of the most typical ND storylines you could think of.
@@taylorrussell3158 will still be 4 ranked wins if the Irish beat Army.
BYU was rank 6 in week 11. They're now rank 14 going into week 12. I think it's clear how the committee feels about these low sos teams when they lose 1 game.
So much for any incentive to schedule quality out of conference games ... this kills that
Hmm. Big 10 played the most ranked, non-conference opponents of any conference. Probably why the have 4 teams in top 5.
@sunsetsolutions4820 SEC will battle SEC for the National Championship title. Big 10 teams are just in the playoff as placeholders. 😂
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@@sunsetsolutions4820 and they wouldn't be favored in any of the games against sec teams even on their homework field
@@sunsetsolutions4820 Is that why? Adding up the non-conference slate for Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon and Indiana, 12 games total, here are the results: 1 ranked opponent, 3 power 5 unranked opponents, 9 unranked non-power 5 opponents. Yeah I see what you mean, which is: "I don't know anything but I'm gonna make an argument based on untruths."
Texas' biggest crux is their strength of schedule. I'm a Longhorn fan, and we got screwed over by our s.o.s. It sucks the ranked teams we did beat turned out to be dog shit
Thats what the projected line would start at with the home team giving up 1.5 which is like saying 4.5 because usually home field is around 3 point advantage but immediately everyone would jump on that betting the sec teams win by more which in return would make it go up and up till the betting leveled out in case you didn't know
@ayan... A hypothetical two-loss Texas REALLY would be more deserving than a one loss Indiana. Indiana chose to schedule peroneal dogs and D2 schools as non-conference opponents. Texas scheduled Michigan in the Shoe and three D1 schools, including UTSA, who was a 10-win D1 a couple years back. Indiana signed up for mediocrity and is winning. Texas signed up for a challenge, but uncharacteristically poor years from multiple foes (MI, OU, UTSA) is letting them down. HOPEFULLY they use it as motivation to steamroll KY and aTm.
The Northern Lion of football. Keep being the voice of reason
Everybody licking their chops for that 5 seed lol. Basicly a bye week, a warm up game vs a practice squad, and then you are playing for a natty 😂😂
Until they play the game and lose thinking like that. That’s how Miami lost to GT, Norte Dame lost to NIU, Alabama lost to Vandy
CFP committee already blew it. They suck
Josh in a BLACK TEE a crispy BLACK TEE at that let me lock in
No matter how you slice it this 12 team has a great idea with the execution where a Boise state could be in the top four and have a bye. But the SEC run up can’t make it to the playoffs. Bizarre.
Black shirt Pate is throwing me off
We need to:
1. Have a 14 game season.
2. Have a mathematical ranking system the has zero references to a particular conference, and that everyone agrees to. Have it be completely transparent, and devoid of human input.
This is a simple fix. Take top 3 teams from each power 5 conference and 1 at large bid to highest ranked independent and play ball. 16 team playoff. Thoughts?
The third best Big12 and ACC teams would go maybe 7-5 in the SEC and might not even be ranked.
@@EulogyfortheAngelsoh well then. Point is let’s have a system that leaves opinions OUT.
Why can't we have Josh Pate on the CFP show instead of Booger McFarland? Boog made himself look so dumb after he backed Florida State last year. He is still going on about putting the "most deserving" teams lol btw I watched that video with Josh and Danny and I wrote a comment pretty much explaining why Josh and Danny Kanell are on two different levels. Danny is a complete moron! That video was freaking hilarious 🤣
Agree, Danny denies SoS.
They kicked David pollock for booger. Bad call.
1,2,3,4 ranked teams regardless of conference should get the bye, this is stupid.
bye
@@shane87smithty
when u have to play a championship game and u lose, it means u can be kicked out of the playoff picture. which means a team on the outside who is waiting for someone to lose has an opportunity to slip in even though they dont have to play that extra game. this is the issue with championship games. teams who qualify will be punished for losing when teams who dont can be rewarded with a playoff berth. the best example of this was USC a few years ago. they were the 4th seed and went on to lose the pac 12 championship to utah (they played an extra game). ohio state, who didnt even qualify for their championship game (they lost to michigan) slips into the playoff without having to play that extra game.
DK Letterman Jacket 😂
This is absolutely a horrendous first foot forward for the CFBC. How in the WORLD is Notre Dame rewarded by losing to a TERRIBLE NIU team at HOME and given a chance to host a playoff game in the first round? Who just got dominated again btw.
How in the WORLD is Penn State in the same situation for their BEST game not being blown out by Ohio State? Weird…seems like this will echo chamber with Indiana as well if they don’t get blown out as well. Deplorable.
How in the world did Miami move up in the rankings during a bye week after losing to an unranked banged up Georgia Tech team after multiple gifted wins? Yet UGA moved up 2 spots for beating #7 TN in a dominant fashion.
This is awful. I would love to travel to the parallel universe the committee lives in and see what they’re supposedly “studying” in these meetings.
Seems like a lot of brand and money bias with ZERO regard for SOS.
That’s the only way you explain why bama, ole miss and UGA are sitting as road teams with the comparison of SOS & quality wins.
Because notre dame had a bad week way early and been dominating since then, quit hating
Wow! If either Penn State or Georgia win they get to play Miami. Whoopee!
I'm a Texas fan but I agree with your assessment of if they lose either of these next 2 games they shouldn't be in the playoffs. The one time we played somebody with like talent we got embarrassed at home.
Need a full 16 team playoff & no conference championship games. CFP rankings are only 1-16 for the month of November. Make whatever rule you need to have a certain number of conferences represented in that 16.
Know what I just heard? Josh Pate making a case for a 16 team playoff. Solves the "lumpy scheduling" delima, as a 1-loss Indiana or 2-loss Texas would be "in." Also solves the "better to be the 5-seed" issue. The further from the top you push down the "beauty pageant," the better.
there will always be a debate to raise the amount of teams. It happened with the BCS. It happened with the 4 team playoff. It is happening now. It would happen at 16 teams. And on and on and on...
@shane87smith Again, IMO the farther from the top the beauty pageant decision cut off is, the better. Team sports are decided on the field. Leave the judges and politics to gymnastics and figure skating.
DJ wasn't playing defense homie. That dude would barely have changed a thing against texas defense
As commissioner can you please require an IQ test for membership to the committee? Cannot believe they are serious with these rankings
Josh got a good take for this yall just trippin 😂
This comment section is so funny lmao
When teams were punished in the 4 team playoff for losing their CCG no one absolutely blew up over it. Why should it be different now? If you drop a spot of 2 or 3. You lost, long as you're still in the playoffs. No one should say shit. Win and you won't have to worry about it.
So wait, is his shirt color like a mood indication thing?
I love how everything about Texas is being pinned on the Texas A&M game. Let Texas cling to that. Check the schedule before that. If you don't think Kentucky can beat Texas, ask Ole Miss what they think. Is it likely? Probably not, but how likely was Vandy beating Alabama?
SEC just means more
Kanell is clearly not intelligent.
For wanting all teams to be judged the same?
@@GR-bn3xj his argument was either disingenuous or just flawed.
2022 and 2023: “Georgia plays nobody they cruise through the SEC Least and have 0 OOC comp and gets rewarded for it”
2024: Georgia gets the 3rd hardest schedule in the country and gets nothing for it.
so by this logic, just schedule a bunch of nobodies to the best of your ability, let the conference commissioner put you on a pedestal and prop you up.
Your crazy good job Vanderbilt top 40
Sec tears
Facts, man. If the schedule doesn't matter when you actually play good teams, then don't schedule good teams.
Except they didn't even reward Georgia for it last year. They lost to their biggest competition in the championship game and got knocked out of the playoffs in favor of Texas, who lost to Oklahoma and got destroyed by Washington
You obviously don't follow NCAA football - in 2022 UGA played 7 top 25 teams, won 7, lost 0, and played/beat 3 top 6 teams. No one else in the country came close to UGA's schedule that year. How many top 25 teams did your team beat in 2022?
Sagarin rated the best model through Week 12 has Boise's SOS at 91 yet they're getting all kinds of credit for losing close to Oregon before Oregon figured out their offense then skated through a terrible G5 schedule. Best wins: UNLV #50, Wash St #59. They should not be ranked higher than 20th. It's a crime to rank them ahead of the top two Big 12 teams.
I think we had conversation about Clemson schedule in past
Well, they did leave Georgia out last year after only losing to Alabama. And it was in the sec championship game. That said I don’t see why Indiana would be left in if they take a loss to Ohio State.
Another thought- how come no one’s talking about what is Notre Dames best win? Texas A&M? Big deal. Almost all cupcake games. Talking about cupcake games, Alabamas schedule? Only eight conference games and Wisconsin. Oregon- 1 cupcake game and 11 power conference game, except Oregon State.
Its crazy that even though all those other leagues play 9 conference games their SOS still doesn't match up with the SEC and their 8 conference games 😂
As for the SEC championship game loser being "punished", there's still a number of ways that point could become moot. If Texas makes the SECCG at 11-1 and then loses, they still only have 2 overall losses so they're getting in, probably as the 6 seed. ((Let's say Indiana loses a close one to Oregon in the Big 12 title game: they would get the 5 seed because they only have one loss and Texas would have 2.) If Notre Dame loses to Army, that opens a spot for the SECCG loser to slide into nicely even if it's a 10-3 team. Let's say some crazy scenario occurs where a team with 3 overall losses makes the SECCG and loses: even Greg Sankey would concede that a 9-4 team shouldn't be in. And if going into conf. champ. week there's only 4 SEC teams left with 2 or fewer overall losses, and one of those teams loses in the SECCG, they could still be the 4th SEC team in the bracket at 10-3, because they're 1 win better than the 9-3 teams. So there's no need to panic yet: That's why Mr. Manuel was noncommittal, he wants to wait and see what the situation actually is first.
19:34 Precedent was technically set with TCU. They lost their title game, but they never moved a spot. Granted, they lost to a team they had already beaten, but they didn't drop them AT ALL. Which, I'm sure was done because they wanted the Michigan-OSU rematch to be the natty. However, they both failed the first round. Just saying, that may come up in the room when they're deciding.
I still can't believe that happened. And then the next year bama barely beats Georgia who was #1 and they fall all the way to #5. make it make sense. makes me sick
“The SEC is a week in and week out gauntlet”. Texas comes in at the top of the conference. “Texas hasn’t played anyone, the best win is Vanderbilt”. What the hell is it then? It’s glorious watching them expose that BS.
You can be in the Big 10 and have a hard schedule. You can be in the Big 10 and have an easy schedule. You can be in the SEC and have a hard schedule and you can be in the SEC and have an easy schedule. It’s not intentional that Texas schedule is easy. It just so happened that in 2024 Oklahoma and Florida were bad. If they had been good, Texas schedule would have been more respectable.
Nope. It's just that the SEC purposely put mostly SEC bottom-dwellers on Texas' schedule. It's still tougher than a Big 10 schedule. There's such a thing as context.
Texas’s 8 SEC games were against the bottom half of the conference + Georgia.
All this "rank" silliness is fun, but you KNOW what few teams this is going to come down to:) Oh, and Indiana is damn sure not one of them:)
Miami struggles nearly every game get beat by unranked GT, drops 4 spots.
PennSt hasn’t beat a ranked team yet
Indiana hasn’t played a ranked team or barely 1 over .500
Ohios only marquee win is over an inflated PennSt.
TX lost at home to the only tough team they played by 2 TDs
UGA gets beat on the road by ranked Ole Miss drops 9 spots
Ranking committee --“no there’s no bias here”
UGA last season goes undefeated regular season loses conference championship, voted out the playoffs despite having better resume than Michigan, TX and Washington
Playoff committee--“there’s no bias here”
@joshpatecfb how do you think the playoff will restructure? 16 teams no byes, ranks decided before conference champ week so no one can get knocked out?
I liked playin football late in the season in the cold and he cleats on the hard soil imo beats the swelterin August camp.
If Indiana plays any SEC team in the playoffs it will be a blowout like the Georgia vs TCU game was. It seems like strength of schedule doesn't matter with committee.
I'm just glad the Vols are basically in, unless they lose to Vandy.
That 5 seed better have a good run defense
I concur with you good sir.
I will let all you SEC fan bases fight it out to see who is going to get skull dragged!!! WE ARE
Hey josh what do u think if Indiana beats ohio state , shouldn't ohio st be left out ?
I’d put Ohio State over a team like Tennessee personally or even Georgia. Still think they haven’t played anyone actually good but they do have talent.
Josh Pate here! Yeah so losses always count as double for non southern teams, therefore Ohio state would be out. And since Ohio state would be out that win Indiana has over them wouldn’t look so good anymore since they wouldn’t have played anyone good and they’d drop a few spots as well. Hope that answered your question
I hope they leave the big 10 teams in so the big dawgs can eat the sec will drag penn st. And indiana
Indiana not in the same category they lose bad to Ohio St. they should not make the playoffs
Blind reaction, but did they:
“LeWk At Da StIcKr On Da HeLmUt” Again
They should bring the BCS system back to seed the playoffs
With Ewers at QB, Texas has no chance to beat A&M. The Kyle Field atmosphere (presumably with a conference title game at stake) is going to be insane and will rattle Quinn and the Longhorn O line. The TX offense will make a boat load of mistakes. A 10-2 Texas team will not make the CFP due to the weak SOS. A&M will then lose the SEC title game and also be out, with 3 losses. The CFP will have UGA, Bama, and Ole Miss.
So what happens if Illinois loses to Rutgers Saturday and Penn state wins out. Does Penn state get left out too? It’ll be the same thing as Indiana yet somehow Penn state is rated as the 3/6 team?
Josh I don't think you understand, I don't actually think you're what you're record says you are, I just don't think that matters. Boise getting a first round bye while Alabama has to go to Notre Dame is an entertaining story line. I think it would be awesome and it's why I follow this sport. You can't get david vs goliath in the NFL. College football being a bit goofier and less sterile and predictable is why the sport is entertaining. It's why everyone loves the NCAA tournament even though no sane person would think it's a good objective way to determine a champion. It's a terrible format but it's fantastic anyway and shouldn't change. You've said it yourself, this is the entertainment buisness, I follow College football way more than the NFL for a reason.
You're right, if this playoff brakcet stood you bet your ass i would bet (if sports gambling was legal in my state) on Ohio State to beat both BYU and Boise 100/100. As an oregon fan, I would think it's unfair that we have play bama or notre dame while Ohio State would basically get a likely free pass to the final four. And I still wouldn't change a single thin about the process. This is the first season i've ever actually bothered to consistently watch SEC games because the 12 team playoff has made so many more games matter than normal. I wouldn't change it for the world, formatting and everything.
Oregon isn’t beating Ohio State in a neutral site. Maybe it will be you with the 5 seed haha
Can we stop saying that Texas has done absolutely nothing. And then go and say another team beat them so it's a great win. You can't have it both ways.
Winner of the psu Georgia game gets into the championship! Mark my word. Let’s go psu. Someone keep franklin out of the stadium!
Point spreads? Let me ask u Josh, what was the point spread for Vandy and Bama? How’d that work?
Yep. That just proved that top 4 Big 10 teams would most likely lose to Vandy.
Your comment is implying that Vegas somehow has all those casinos when they just hemorrhage money.
“Here’s a cherry-picked exception, beat that!”
Why are you okay with PSU being in? I don’t get it? If IU losses to OSU they are out but Penn state already did and hasn’t played anyone else and they are sitting at 4
I guess SECSECSEC has a waiting period. Remember when Georgia played a weak schedule and there was outrage when they didn't make the play-off?
Because they were undefeated heading into the Conference championship game
@caramelpop9427 And they were undefeated because they played a weak schedule.
The 4 bye seeds should be reserved forc the p4 conference champions
Indiana shouldn’t be in the top 25
They deserve a ranking more than Miami. I saw the refs give them two games.
Why don't we just expand the playoff to 16 and take the top 12 SEC teams? I know why because the SEC would bitch about why they didn't get 13 in.
With JP co-signing their arguments
Low IQ alert ‼️
Denial is not a river in Egypt.
Why isn’t anyone talking bout Boise States strength of schedule?
Deserving or best teams? People were saying FSU was most deserving because they went undefeated, but they had a weak schedule. Bama with one regular season loss to playoff team Texas early beat two time defending national champs GA with a 28 game win streak for the SEC championship. The proof Bama was the best was they played national champ Michigan closer than anybody else but finally lost in OT after actually leading with four minutes left. GA blew FSU out of the stadium. I say always play the best teams not the most "deserving"
None of these opinions will matter until the game is 00:00
How about Texas hangs their hat on having the best defense in the nation
a "frozen deer in the headights🦌
How about we view this as individual teams and not about what conference you're in, just like the NFL. Yeah technically the 4-5 team in the tough division can whip the 7-2 team in the easy division. It doesn't matter there... it shouldn't matter in college football.
Kanell got cooked. 😆
Make them go up north it’ll make up for all the years where northern teams have to go down south. if the SEC is the best conference, they should have to travel for once in their goddamn lives
Honestly looking at the rankings the games don’t really seem to matter !!!
Should ohio Stay in if they lose to Indiana?
If they end up losing they would still have a loss to the number one team in the nation on the road by one point. Thats better than any two loss SEC team can say.
Gimme alt line -20 ole miss at Indiana 😂😂
Its ranked teams that lost to none ranked teams
Texas may not have a quality win, but they survived the gauntlet of the SEC; where any team can beat any team on a given Saturday. Texas beat Arkansas, Kentucky, and Vandy. Tennessee couldn't beat Arkansas. Ole Miss couldn't beat Kentucky. Alabama couldn't beat Vandy.
It was definitely a strange season.
Texas talking real big about vandy just to only beat them by 3.. Texas got the easiest schedule of all the sec teams which is absolutely whack.
But Texas hasn't even played Kentucky yet 😂
second round needs to be on campus
If Texas loses to A&M beat win will probably be 6-6
Kanell is funny but HORRIBLE at CFB takes. I used to listen to his podcast but he was SOOOOOOO whiny about FSU that I had to finally stop listening. I like seeing Indiana do well. I like when the underdogs win. If they have to play Bama, UGA, Teas, or Ole Miss, they are DONE! They can't keep up with a true POWER team. We'll see when they play OSU.
Whatever playoff rankings make the fanboys of the "Power 2" (what a joke) cope and seethe the hardest, that would be just fine by me.
Just have an SEC playoffs at the end of the year and see how that plays out 🙄
Tulane baby!
-1.5 ... those bets are FREE MONEY
Give Florida the same refs we had at SC...
bruh, is that a black tee?!?!
Stupid playoff format 👎🏻