And it is, with this in mind, imperative that he stops whatever else he is doing, and just concentrate on finishing this album. Madness how he can proclaim to be a full-time musician yet release 3 albums in 16 years. Constantly blaming lack of computing power, such a pathetic excuse. Perhaps use some of the half a million Euros from the crowdfunding campaign and invest in a decent computer.
@@TruueMetal I dont mind the wait, what kinda started to piss me off is this Patreon crap, everything they post since then is just "go check out Patreon", "live video there on Patreon", while people who dont sub are locked away from all the content Like really, giving you 75€ for the forest season wasnt enough ? i cant even see the HD live record of a show I paid to be in Or the latest thing that was kinda...weird i guess, it's how Jari locked his Neural DSP preset behind the patreon while Teemu shared his for free, you actually get them when buying the Fortin plugging. Meanwhile Jari use the Nolly plugging, which cost way more than the Fortin, AND he is selling the preset And yeah, they had the money to buy a few custom shop guitar that were easily 5k to 10k euros each, but no money to buy a decent computer
I have listened to This for 10 years and Fell in love with it so long ago. Never through i would hear the Studio version of this. I just did. Its the most beautiful thing i have ever heard.
This is it, guys. We've reached the final day. Time to use the opportunity and give this live bootleg one last spin before retiring it for good when we finally get to hear the studio version tomorrow. Thank you "Winterborgirr" for uploading this video, that has literally kept me hyped for Time II for over an entire decade. Cheers. 🤘
whoever decided to focus the camera straight in on jari's guitar on the second solo is a fucking legend, no one ever thinks to do this on all the other live videos i've watched
Ignorance is bliss. Ive been listening to Time 1 every fall as winter rolls in for the past 11 years. I had no idea Jari had this written and sitting on a shelf for 10 years. Heard it the first time a couple weeks ago. LOL
Thank you Winterborgirr, after years of coming here I finally said goodbye today listening to the studio version, but this one will always live in my heart.
@@RÅNÇIÐ for fuck sake.. have you even watched the way of the fire recording from tons of metal fest???? It is sounding 10 times better. What are you talking about? This Hollywood live is nowhere close.
If someone is interested in lyrics I think I have most of them pretty correct: ---> Fire the oldest one, the force in the beginning of time. Show me your face and your real size, reveal the secrets of fading time. Grant us all the wisdom and strenght, as the riddles I have seen from the dying day. -Untill the fire will burn all the memories away. The greatest one, light the path I have chosen. Lead me away from the strange riddles, hide me away from the treacherous shadows. Nothing will last forever, not even this fire I have inside. Fire burns wide in the mountains, it bursts inside my heart! It burns a way to all the new space and time, where the essence of a new world will rise! Fire the oldest one! Burns wild inside my frozen heart. Fire the greatest one! I will never understand the way of the fire. Fire the oldest one! Has lighted my chosen path so dark. Fire! You can never change the way of the fire! The flames in the darkness reaching the stars. ??????????????????????? dancing in to the sky. Mesmerized by the blaze??????? dust in my face. ?????????????? the feeling that time will take. I will now leave this world behind, I see the skies so calm and I can't live anymore. In the coldness of winter night, I will find my way somehow. Beoynd the stars a new world awaits me now. In the fields of snow, we walk, the endless path of stars. And we reach the horizon. We reach the horizon! Come follow me, to eternal stars, I'll guide you away from the dark. In the coldness of winter night, we will find our way, to the place of the fire's light. Time will fade these dreams. I can almost reach, but it's still so far away. The fire will guide when it's time to leave this world behind. With it I'll leave this world behind! Fire the oldest one! Burns wild inside my frozen heart. Fire the greatest one! I will never understand the way of the fire!
Have you checked Hannes's solo albums. The closing/title track on his debut album The Radial Covenant by Per Nilsson is a masterclass solo. The title track to Pers bands Scar Symmetry's Neohumanity album's final solo is even better. 10/10 solos
I don't think anyone could go further than this... I mean musically, artistically, this is just perfect... The only person that can top Jari's work is the man himself oO
I'm a huge Wintersun fan, but you can't argue against NeO's music being the definition of artistic when their music is being used in the curriculum of the Sydney conservatorium of music.
Though this song is too good to even exist in this cruel world but given just as a demonstration in few occasions as what heavenly music sounds like in some other world out there. Though soon we'll get the forest seasons and "Loneliness" sounds like my new favourite Wintersun song
Then again, come Time II, when it's released, it'll have this song, Storm (Kai praised it to the heavens) and Silver Leaves (it is said to be one of the most beautiful songs ever). We can't handle it!
Tim Dijkstra Well, the crowd funding thing failed becouse Wintersun hasn't got enough attention and so Jari decided to start a new one soon >.> This will take like one year or more I think. If Jari gets the support he needs (the money he needs), the studio he wants has to get build first. After that he's able to record and mix the new album which is also going to take some time. You see, there's no way the album will come out soon.
Thanks for uploading this version, there has been 10 years listening this video and in 2 days finally the studio version is out. Thank you so much for staying me hyped for a decade 😊
Time II is like Halflife 3... I envy those who were at this concert, it would be like Gabe Newell coming on stage and just start talking about Halflife 3.
That's funny, i've never thought of Jari being included in the elite club of Gaben and George RR Martin, though perhaps he'd fit in just fine. But ultimately i have every confidence that Time II is actually happening, no matter how late :D
7:45-7:49 those hands...his right hand...wtsf is Jari doing?!?! The more I'm learning about guitars (which isn't much so far), without owning one (yet...), the more I'm blown away by tiny moments like this. I doubt I'll ever achieve this skill level, but it'll be fun to try. But...those hands...?! Erg?!?!
It's called tapping, one of the more advanced techniques that aren't easy to master. Not many people people in the world can play like Jari, you need to have passion, talent and tons of practice to get godlike.
i started listening wintersun when i saw the time II's finishing news. When i heard this song in studio version, i couldnt belive someone actually have been watching live version of TWOTW for 10 years in poor quality. Just cant imagine how many people've cried listening this masterpiece on the album (even i almost did)
The new song is not 'Storm.' That song has a running time of roughly 12 minutes. That information came directly from a Facebook post from Kai. The new song is much more likely from the next crowdfunding album. Also, lyrically, the album matches nothing from Time I or 'The Way of the Fire.' Its also has zero oriental influence, which we all know is very present in both Time I/II albums. Orchestrally it's not as involved either. I saw the song live in Dallas. The evidence that it's not 'Storm' for outweighs that it is 'Storm.' Just my two cents.
This is the end. Tomorrow is a new day but also a new world. A world where we can officially listen to the song in its full glory in killer quality, finally. Let us celebrate! Cheers! 🍻
Can't wait to hear a studio-version of this solo. I saved tissues for years now and I acutally doubt that they can absorb everything I reserverd for Time II ^^
Mr Oatmeal Of Darkness and Frost and Time could also be counted as one song. 8 songs on Wintersun and 3 songs on Time I + Way of the Fire would be 12 songs.
Ironic how Jari's perfectionism, by stopping him from releasing the damn song, drives us to listen to fan-recorded live footage instead. We can't hear background flute #17 in this, Jari. Or background flute #2, for that matter. But we keep coming back because its core is just so fucking good.
I dream of one day listening to this song and the others in studio quality but man, since this concert has passed over 10 years and almost to no news of Time II... It's really hard being a Wintersun fan...
Time I is a masterpiece. I don't understand why Time II isn't being funded the way it needs to be. Given that I want the new album (and possibly Time III, IV, V and so on) I will donate to Wintersun to continue making music. I have no affiliation with the band, just a guy in Australia who wants to hear more from this incredible band
Maiden Aust i dont understand why time II aint released - i remember back in 2011, jari announced time would be split into time I and time II and that this was a choice nuclear blast did for whatever reasons. back then, it didnt sound like "we will release the parts of time that are ready as time I but rest still has to be produced" what i understood back then, the album was complete but nuclear wanted the split and now, for whatever reason, the 2nd part aint coming. and this makes me really sad, as way of the fire shows the potential of wintersun way more then time I imo (while time I is still a good album)
@wurst! And I remember when in some interview in late 2013 Jari said that Time II "is in a good place, mix-wise". Meanwhile, more than three years have passed since then and all we've heard from him is more BS.
The absence of the mixing studio needed for all of this complex post-Time I material, and the imperfect nature of Time I's mix itself, is the great musical tragedy of the 2010s to me. Let's hope that the crowdfunding succeeds as a direct solution. 400,000+ Euros is a great start and should line Time II to be the next album after the fourth Wintersun full length. (i.e. after whatever follows The Forest Seasons)
Ahhah, love his accent. :) "Are you sure?" sounds more like "Are you sore?". :D Anyway, great man and musician. I've never waited for any albums of any bands as I'm waiting for Time II.
This is my favorite Wintersun song. And maybe we'll never hear it officially recorded. I've listened so many times..I've downloaded all the known videos and converted it in mp3 just to listen the song properly without YT. What a peculiar thing, my favorite song is a live bootleg of something that is never been released. And maybe, we will never listen again Jari on the solo, since Temu is now the lead guitar player. He will play Jari's part in live concerts since Jari doesn't play guitar live anymore but I still hope that the solo on the record, if we'll ever hear it, will be played by him. This is absurd.
I feel your pain. From 1999 until 2019, I only had the CD version of Demons & Wizards "Fiddler on the Green." They did 2 shows (in 1999/2000) where there is video, and Hansi was sick for the good quality version. I thought, 'I would love to hear Hansi sing this song live, just once.' D&W reunited in 2019 (!!!) - and they played the song at WACKEN! For me, it is a dream come true, even if others do not see it that way. Sadly Jon went and stormed the Capitol building with protestors in 2021 and he effectively killed D&W forever. With Wintersun? You never know.. but miracles do happen, brother.
Even though it's almost impossible to choose a favourite track from Wintersun, this one might be it for me. It's sad that we have to wait for Time II probably for at least 5 years :(
This song makes me feel happy and sad same time. This was recorded over 8 years ago and Jari talking about Time II. Im starting to believe we never hear studio version of this or Time II. Now late 2021 he says one of the 4 upcoming albums is over 50% done. And its not Time II. I supported the crowdfunding and will support in future. I hope im so fucking wrong.
And as of yesterday, he said he stopped working on Time II since 2014 because he want to focus on other album and other stuff Fun, considering when we backed up the crowdfucking, it was clearly said it was to work on Time II
@@claire6650 Yeah i read it too. Its frustrating, but still Jari is like a god to me, so good music. Frustrating is that how many epic songs he has unpublished because "not ready" like this one.
@@claire6650the original plan was to have a few more crowdfunding campaigns to build the Wintersun headquarters before being able to finish Time II, but fortunately to us, he managed to build the semi-studio and with the help of modern plug-in technology he was able to finish Time II and we are only one month away from the release, so let's rejoice!
Jari should be playing in stadiums. Selling out Madison Square and on the popular radio stations. It is sad to see what this world has come to. Most people do not have the intelligence it takes to understand music this complex.
There are two kinds of music listeners in this world. The first kind comprises of people who take in the music brainlessly, just listening to something without knowing why or for what reason. Whether you give them Beethoven or Lil Wayne, it won’t make even a pennyworth of difference. Now there is a second kind of listener.This kind does not just listen to music, but lives it. This kind experiences the music at simultaneously many levels, not just in an auditory fashion. These kinds of listeners are few, especially if the age group is constricted from teenage to the low 20s, something that was done by the researcher Virgil Griffith. But it can be confidently stated that a person in that age group generally listens to music superficially. For a teenager to experience a song or an instrumental piece is rare, and those who do, listen to Beethoven as much as Kenny G, as much as Linkin Park, as much as Pink Floyd. These ‘music experiencers’ will almost never listen to songs by Lil Wayne or Beyonce,because Firstly, those songs are totally meaningless & secondly, those songs have no enticing melody, and thirdly, because characters like Lil Wayne are almost not someone you want to identify with. But the average teenager getsinto a rut, and just listens to what the web shows as the week’s “HOT 100”. The teenager is literally being fed these songs. Very few teenagers exist who sift through songs based on quality instead of just listening to whatever the heck they get. If these “HOT xyz” lists were to be replaced by the works of Mozart ,and Beethoven, the same experiment would see a huge shift in statistics relating the SAT scores to the type of music someone prefers. Let me give an example. Take 1000 people from that age group, and let 10 of them be the experiencers. From these 10, let 4 choose Beethoven as their favourite, while the other 6 have eclectic tastes and preferences, with the remaining 990 preferring everything else. Obviously the ones being eclectic overlap in tastes with both the 990 andthe 4, but the 990 will obviously dominate their respective Genres. Thus the experiment will show that the ones preferring Beethoven are better in SATs,etc. The Beethoven is not important here, but the sheer numbers dominating all the other genres, is. Thus, if someone really has an ear for music, it does not matter what he listens to, because whatever it is, it will always complement his/her intelligence, because people who listen to songs without any thinking,and follow people like Beyonce, Lil Wayne, or Kanye West blindly, just because they think that they are cool and don’t give a f**k, are mostly the people who have a very low opinion formation capacity, low thinking capacity, and absolutely no taste in music.
i think that there is also many people among those who listen to metal that actually don't give a shit about what it is about and don't care about lyrics and emotional content. for the group of people i'm talking about i think it's all about "i wanna be the tough guy, i wanna listen to stuff as brutal as possible, i wanna listen to stuff that others feel alienated"... there is also a certain amount of metal bands that only serve to satisfy these needs... BUT with bands like wintersun, with many bands of melodic death metal that inweave a lot of compassion, dedication and emotion in general, it's different. this type of music and band is very authentic and honest albums are written by one songwriter or one band that stant for the content, and produced by one producer. an album by rihanna is written by 18 songwriters and produced 25 producers... therefore mainstream pop music is very superficial and made for an undifferentiated public and there is no deeper connection between the "artist"/performer and the audience. music from bands like wintersun has a lot of depth and content and one has to somehow make an effort (what is a significant threshold for mainstream consumers) to connect with this kind of music. but once you manage to link with it, it opens you a whole magnificent world of honest and true emotions. after all i think it's all about the question, whether someone only wants to just consume and have some sound on his/her ears or someone really wants to sit down and listen truly to the music and is open for building up an emotional relation with it (what i think anyways is only possible with authentic music written by "true" songwriters). that's why some bands are only hyped over quite short spaces of time and on very rare occations while others have fans that stay true for decades...
I think it's funny to see the overall video quality of the recordings increasing over the years while this song still not has been unleashed in studio quality. And everytime I read about a new multicam recording of it, I discover something new due to that.
I have yet to see this band live. There are very few bands these days that get me excited to go to a concert. This band is one of the few. Every performance I've seen on UA-cam is at or above studio quality and is just superb musicianship.
The crazy thing is that the studio quality of this song is far better. Jari went far and beyond to make the studio version sound sublime. It's no wonder why it took so long before he was able to finish Time II.
I'm so happy that we might finally get to hear the studio version soon. 😭
So am I bro I was so hyped when I saw there Facebook post
Just 1-2 years left
I thought this was a joke, but checked their faceboko. ITS FUCKING REAL
Me too, I’ve had this on repeat since the announcement 😂🤘🏻
@@saymyname8925 More like 5 - 6 months.
I refuse to die until I've heard Time II. This is how one achieves immortality.
Even if you became a ghost, you have to hear Time II. Whatever the price is...
Ghosts listen to Wintersun anyway.
in a few days, you can listen to "Ominous Clouds" and "Storm" live!!!!!
Hey I've been saying that for a long time! Did you steal my words or do we think alike? :D
Same
TIME II IS COMPLETE LET'S GOOOOOOOO
It is entirely possible, if not inevitable, that there are people that have died waiting for this album...
I don't care what happens to me, i refuse to die until i hear all of Time II
Sad with what happened this year, you might be right
And it is, with this in mind, imperative that he stops whatever else he is doing, and just concentrate on finishing this album. Madness how he can proclaim to be a full-time musician yet release 3 albums in 16 years. Constantly blaming lack of computing power, such a pathetic excuse. Perhaps use some of the half a million Euros from the crowdfunding campaign and invest in a decent computer.
@@TruueMetal I dont mind the wait, what kinda started to piss me off is this Patreon crap, everything they post since then is just "go check out Patreon", "live video there on Patreon", while people who dont sub are locked away from all the content
Like really, giving you 75€ for the forest season wasnt enough ? i cant even see the HD live record of a show I paid to be in
Or the latest thing that was kinda...weird i guess, it's how Jari locked his Neural DSP preset behind the patreon while Teemu shared his for free, you actually get them when buying the Fortin plugging. Meanwhile Jari use the Nolly plugging, which cost way more than the Fortin, AND he is selling the preset
And yeah, they had the money to buy a few custom shop guitar that were easily 5k to 10k euros each, but no money to buy a decent computer
It's not just possible it's fact (especially with Covid19 like Claire said) and that's fucking depressing and may these people rest in peace.
Can't believe we don't have to watch this video anymore after this week.
Good luck to everyone trying to learn the two solos from this song after its official release.
Watching this again after listening to time 2 album 100 times. What an epic performance!
I have listened to This for 10 years and Fell in love with it so long ago. Never through i would hear the Studio version of this.
I just did.
Its the most beautiful thing i have ever heard.
The level of this band is untouchable. Jari is a genius
This is it, guys. We've reached the final day. Time to use the opportunity and give this live bootleg one last spin before retiring it for good when we finally get to hear the studio version tomorrow. Thank you "Winterborgirr" for uploading this video, that has literally kept me hyped for Time II for over an entire decade. Cheers. 🤘
We reached the horizon...
We finally have the studio version and the album is awesome.
whoever decided to focus the camera straight in on jari's guitar on the second solo is a fucking legend, no one ever thinks to do this on all the other live videos i've watched
Probably a guitarist :D
Its finished guys ...finally
and release date 30 August 2024!
I hope all these guys who commented 9 years ago who refuse to die until they listen studio version are still alive 🤞🏼🤞🏼😭😭😭
They died so we could listen. Their sacrifice allowed Jari to finally finish Time II.
DOnt worry i see wintersun extras is still alive and waits for time package too ;)
I'm still alive. 😂
WintersunExtras was partying for days.
Unbelievable hand speed and precision, an absolute privilege to watch that solo.
Time II cant come fast enough!
I will still keep on coming back to watch this even we already have the studio version.
Ignorance is bliss. Ive been listening to Time 1 every fall as winter rolls in for the past 11 years. I had no idea Jari had this written and sitting on a shelf for 10 years. Heard it the first time a couple weeks ago. LOL
"Perhaps you want to hear something new" I can't help but giggle
Thank you Winterborgirr, after years of coming here I finally said goodbye today listening to the studio version, but this one will always live in my heart.
Honestly even with the new studio version now released, I'll still continue to return to this one. Literally a decade of memories listening to this 😂
@@RHCPspray Yes, I will too
this video is so special, because there will NEVER be a performance of this song like this again.
Can't believe how EPIC sounding this band keeps getting!!! That solo was godly enough but that bridge after the solo... Holy crap, THE FEELS!!!
Happy 10th Anniversary to the best version of "The Way Of The Fire" on UA-cam. 🥳
Nah, tons of metal live is much better in terms of sound
@@TrulyStucker Yes... but as of now there is no better version on UA-cam.
@@RÅNÇIÐ once again, tons of metal live version is way better and still online.
@@TrulyStucker I never said otherwise. But of this particular song, this is the best version on UA-cam.
@@RÅNÇIÐ for fuck sake.. have you even watched the way of the fire recording from tons of metal fest???? It is sounding 10 times better. What are you talking about? This Hollywood live is nowhere close.
Everyone knows that Jari is a god, so he will live forever. But we are not immortal, so Jari, I beg you, release this damn album before we all die out
It will be out finally!!
If someone is interested in lyrics I think I have most of them pretty correct:
--->
Fire the oldest one, the force in the beginning of time.
Show me your face and your real size, reveal the secrets of fading time.
Grant us all the wisdom and strenght, as the riddles I have seen from the dying day.
-Untill the fire will burn all the memories away.
The greatest one, light the path I have chosen.
Lead me away from the strange riddles, hide me away from the treacherous shadows.
Nothing will last forever, not even this fire I have inside.
Fire burns wide in the mountains, it bursts inside my heart!
It burns a way to all the new space and time, where the essence
of a new world will rise!
Fire the oldest one!
Burns wild inside my frozen heart.
Fire the greatest one!
I will never understand the way of the fire.
Fire the oldest one!
Has lighted my chosen path so dark.
Fire!
You can never change the way of the fire!
The flames in the darkness reaching the stars.
??????????????????????? dancing in to the sky.
Mesmerized by the blaze??????? dust in my face.
?????????????? the feeling that time will take.
I will now leave this world behind, I see the skies so calm and I can't live anymore.
In the coldness of winter night, I will find my way somehow. Beoynd the stars a new world awaits me now.
In the fields of snow, we walk, the endless path of stars. And we reach the horizon. We reach the horizon!
Come follow me, to eternal stars, I'll guide you away from the dark. In the coldness of winter night,
we will find our way, to the place of the fire's light. Time will fade these dreams. I can almost reach,
but it's still so far away. The fire will guide when it's time to leave this world behind.
With it I'll leave this world behind!
Fire the oldest one!
Burns wild inside my frozen heart.
Fire the greatest one!
I will never understand the way of the fire!
Great job!
kinderi92 I think its "Milion sparks are rising dancing to the sky"
Yeah, sounds about right.
+kinderi92 Best lyrics in the world. Thanks for sharing.
Onur Hunuma
No problem!
7:10 - 8:10 is such an amazing solo, it came out so clear on this recording too
Its probably my favorite guitar solo of all time. Its between this and Fermented Offal Discharge by Necrophagist
Have you checked Hannes's solo albums. The closing/title track on his debut album The Radial Covenant by Per Nilsson is a masterclass solo. The title track to Pers bands Scar Symmetry's Neohumanity album's final solo is even better. 10/10 solos
Talking to RealAbraxas here not OP since Necrophagist was mentioned
@@jamespeterson1630This one is an 11/10, but they're great too.
@@ZonZorZerx MOOD I love saying 11/10 to describe godtier shit too mate haha
Oops almost forgot to watch this today
Wtf, this is pure epic
You can see how proud Jari is to showcase this absolute masterpiece.
I would be too. It's the ultimate masterpiece of (metal) music
I don't think anyone could go further than this... I mean musically, artistically, this is just perfect... The only person that can top Jari's work is the man himself oO
Exactly!!!
Ne Obliviscaris are a good contender though :P
GoulashOne Not really, there's no magic in what they do
I'm a huge Wintersun fan, but you can't argue against NeO's music being the definition of artistic when their music is being used in the curriculum of the Sydney conservatorium of music.
Glad to hear that. But there's nothing I like in their music, that's the fact I was stressing.
Gentlemen, all these years and the wait is almost over. Thank you for the journey.
8 years passed since I have heard it the first time. and yet it is still the only proper version we got. so depressing
The day has come, my friend. You finally get to listen to it properly!
@@XtopherBryson hell yeah Brother!
And I am even more stoked to hear One with the Shadows, now!
I NEED TIME 2 GOD DAMN IT.
LET'S GO JARI!
CAN'T DIE BEFORE
LISTENING TO THAT ALBUM.
have you survived?
Who else is watching this in 2024 😭🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Especially on the studio version. As In, holy fuck! 😮
@@PsyphaX09 seriously 😭🤘🏼 it’s been on repeat for like a week lol
@@assacre Same, until I fall asleep. 🤘
Imagine your favorite song being a shitty live video on UA-cam that you've been watching for an entire decade. My life is a joke. 😭
Same. Yeah its frustrating. I mean cmon imagine how many epic songs he has unpublished because "not ready".
The song has something special about it. The main riff swings while being a pure blast forward.
@@sucersdungeonthe song is just pure passion all the way through
How do you feel now brother
@@JayLock I think this guy died befire time 2
I can't remember the last time my hide had such goosebumps!
We are so close hearing the studio version lads!
Even closer now!
It's crazy that even after 6 years, the song has still not been released :D
Though this song is too good to even exist in this cruel world but given just as a demonstration in few occasions as what heavenly music sounds like in some other world out there. Though soon we'll get the forest seasons and "Loneliness" sounds like my new favourite Wintersun song
Then again, come Time II, when it's released, it'll have this song, Storm (Kai praised it to the heavens) and Silver Leaves (it is said to be one of the most beautiful songs ever). We can't handle it!
he said that in a Livestream a long time ago
@@GenghisClausITS COMING
It's been 84 years. Only one month to go
It's been 5 years... I can't take the hype anymore
Jari's Ensiferum spirit has revived!
Even though he`s a great frontman without the guit i`m gonna certainly miss the axe wielding.
Damn, what a masterpiece!
I remember living down the street from this place... saw Dark Tranquility there... good times
God Damn! Time II needs to come soon!
That second solo tho..
It won't come out within the next 3 years :/
Avner Weiss Why?
Tim Dijkstra Well, the crowd funding thing failed becouse Wintersun hasn't got enough attention and so Jari decided to start a new one soon >.> This will take like one year or more I think. If Jari gets the support he needs (the money he needs), the studio he wants has to get build first. After that he's able to record and mix the new album which is also going to take some time. You see, there's no way the album will come out soon.
O what, but how Much do they Need And what are they expecting to get out the funding?
Damn, Jari for being a perfectionist.
Thanks for uploading this version, there has been 10 years listening this video and in 2 days finally the studio version is out. Thank you so much for staying me hyped for a decade 😊
Crowd at 8:20 "FUCK YEAH ANOTHER MASTERPIECE!!!"
Jari: HAHAHAH! BUT OF COURSE!!!
Time II is like Halflife 3... I envy those who were at this concert, it would be like Gabe Newell coming on stage and just start talking about Halflife 3.
That's funny, i've never thought of Jari being included in the elite club of Gaben and George RR Martin, though perhaps he'd fit in just fine.
But ultimately i have every confidence that Time II is actually happening, no matter how late :D
Magical. Absolutely incredible.
Jari THE god! Pls release time 2 before my time comes.
OK SUPER 👍 METAL
7:45-7:49 those hands...his right hand...wtsf is Jari doing?!?! The more I'm learning about guitars (which isn't much so far), without owning one (yet...), the more I'm blown away by tiny moments like this. I doubt I'll ever achieve this skill level, but it'll be fun to try. But...those hands...?! Erg?!?!
It's called tapping, one of the more advanced techniques that aren't easy to master. Not many people people in the world can play like Jari, you need to have passion, talent and tons of practice to get godlike.
i started listening wintersun when i saw the time II's finishing news. When i heard this song in studio version, i couldnt belive someone actually have been watching live version of TWOTW for 10 years in poor quality. Just cant imagine how many people've cried listening this masterpiece on the album (even i almost did)
*12 years in poor quality actually hahaha. Yes we did it.
Now that I've heard the "new" song Storm, it just doubled the excruciating pain of waiting for Time II to be released.
The new song is not 'Storm.' That song has a running time of roughly 12 minutes. That information came directly from a Facebook post from Kai.
The new song is much more likely from the next crowdfunding album.
Also, lyrically, the album matches nothing from Time I or 'The Way of the Fire.'
Its also has zero oriental influence, which we all know is very present in both Time I/II albums.
Orchestrally it's not as involved either. I saw the song live in Dallas.
The evidence that it's not 'Storm' for outweighs that it is 'Storm.'
Just my two cents.
I cant wait for the studio version.
they played the song at summer breeze last saturday, it was great! *___*
the wintersun concert at summerbreeze 2014 was the best concert there by far, i saw it and enjoyed it
Instant chills. That's how good this band is.
ABSOLUTE EPICNESS
This is the end. Tomorrow is a new day but also a new world. A world where we can officially listen to the song in its full glory in killer quality, finally. Let us celebrate! Cheers! 🍻
I need to stop listening to this MASTERPIECE. The waiting is eternal... an eternal darkness...
I already played it around 300 times...
Eternity has come
I think I'm going to musicgasm myself into cardiac arrest when TII is released. A studio version of this is going to be off the charts.
Well it is “off” the charts
You just need to wait another 8 years…
Yeah man it's only been 9 years don't lose hope
Nine years, Jari is still protecting you from the cardiac arrest.
here we are, just 9 years later, with an official announcement :D
😅❤ I've been waiting for 10 years to blast my brain with this peace of art
This might be the best wintersun song to date. and that is saying something!
To me it's the best song ever, period. Easily.
That second solo is just fucking INSANE.
Can't wait to hear a studio-version of this solo. I saved tissues for years now and I acutally doubt that they can absorb everything I reserverd for Time II ^^
i really want to hear the studio version of the solo, it sounds like one of the coolest. that bottom note at 7:33 is so satisfying
Fucking christ, It hasn't been released and yet it's one of the most best songs I've ever heard. I REALLY can't wait to have this in studio quality.
Are you still alive? Are you ready?
THIS is what I want to see. Jari on guitar AND vocals.
This song was too good to ever make it to the public
For a long time it seemed so, but we only have to wait one more month.
Came to listen after preordering the Time package! The clips are so fucking good!
The next week maybe Time 2 will be released and just maybe we find this epic song, after 10 years this is the time!!!
They're absolutely amazing!
how about 10 more? you dont have that much songs jari....
Mr Oatmeal Of Darkness and Frost and Time could also be counted as one song. 8 songs on Wintersun and 3 songs on Time I + Way of the Fire would be 12 songs.
And if you count the the demo - Immemorial from 1997 - 5 songs but one of them is Sadness and hate so 4 more songs.
The recapitulation is 12 + 4
שחף מרגלית Well not officially i think hes made over 20 songs by now atleast
Torry Michelsen Actually, Jari has mentioned that he has enough material for 5 - 6 albums :)
Fishmaster If only he'd release them.
this was the best live guitar solo that i've ever seen
if I die ill refuse to go heaven until listen this album like a shadow spirit.
holy shit. what the fuck just happened to my senses. overload.
Try DMT ;)
Subtle name bro
Ironic how Jari's perfectionism, by stopping him from releasing the damn song, drives us to listen to fan-recorded live footage instead.
We can't hear background flute #17 in this, Jari. Or background flute #2, for that matter. But we keep coming back because its core is just so fucking good.
Jari one month after your comment: "well here you go!"
I dream of one day listening to this song and the others in studio quality but man, since this concert has passed over 10 years and almost to no news of Time II...
It's really hard being a Wintersun fan...
I bet you are happy with the recent news! As we all are.
One month to go!
Time I is a masterpiece. I don't understand why Time II isn't being funded the way it needs to be. Given that I want the new album (and possibly Time III, IV, V and so on) I will donate to Wintersun to continue making music. I have no affiliation with the band, just a guy in Australia who wants to hear more from this incredible band
Maiden Aust i dont understand why time II aint released - i remember back in 2011, jari announced time would be split into time I and time II and that this was a choice nuclear blast did for whatever reasons.
back then, it didnt sound like "we will release the parts of time that are ready as time I but rest still has to be produced"
what i understood back then, the album was complete but nuclear wanted the split and now, for whatever reason, the 2nd part aint coming. and this makes me really sad, as way of the fire shows the potential of wintersun way more then time I imo (while time I is still a good album)
Hey, are you aware of the Crowdfunding? Check it out www.indiegogo.com/projects/wintersun-crowdfunding--3#/
@wurst! And I remember when in some interview in late 2013 Jari said that Time II "is in a good place, mix-wise". Meanwhile, more than three years have passed since then and all we've heard from him is more BS.
KeiBrightwing if you watch the forest seasons documentary, he gives perfectly reasonable explanation for it.
The absence of the mixing studio needed for all of this complex post-Time I material, and the imperfect nature of Time I's mix itself, is the great musical tragedy of the 2010s to me. Let's hope that the crowdfunding succeeds as a direct solution. 400,000+ Euros is a great start and should line Time II to be the next album after the fourth Wintersun full length. (i.e. after whatever follows The Forest Seasons)
wtf? How could they played this live 10 years ago if it's been released just 4 weeks ago?? 😧
Ahhah, love his accent. :) "Are you sure?" sounds more like "Are you sore?". :D
Anyway, great man and musician. I've never waited for any albums of any bands as I'm waiting for Time II.
Still waiting :D
Yep. But Gojira became one of those bands. And they recently satisfied my hunger for new good music. :D
Thank you for this upload Winterborgirr. Though it is time for it to retire, it will not be soon forgotten.
CANT WAIT FOR THE STUDIO VERSION LETS FGO
This is my favorite Wintersun song. And maybe we'll never hear it officially recorded. I've listened so many times..I've downloaded all the known videos and converted it in mp3 just to listen the song properly without YT. What a peculiar thing, my favorite song is a live bootleg of something that is never been released. And maybe, we will never listen again Jari on the solo, since Temu is now the lead guitar player. He will play Jari's part in live concerts since Jari doesn't play guitar live anymore but I still hope that the solo on the record, if we'll ever hear it, will be played by him. This is absurd.
I feel your pain
I feel your pain. From 1999 until 2019, I only had the CD version of Demons & Wizards "Fiddler on the Green." They did 2 shows (in 1999/2000) where there is video, and Hansi was sick for the good quality version. I thought, 'I would love to hear Hansi sing this song live, just once.' D&W reunited in 2019 (!!!) - and they played the song at WACKEN! For me, it is a dream come true, even if others do not see it that way. Sadly Jon went and stormed the Capitol building with protestors in 2021 and he effectively killed D&W forever. With Wintersun? You never know.. but miracles do happen, brother.
Our prayers have finally been answered. One month to go so let us rejoice!
Best quality version on UA-cam.
So great to be here now knowing Time II is done and being released in just another 5 months. My goodness I am so excited.
Holy shit Jaris second solo.. wtf
Yeah tbh it's one of the sickest solos ever
I know that when I hear the studio version... I will die. HAPPY.
So fucking excited to hear a studio version of this. Easily the best Wintersun song!
To me it's easily the best song ever
Even though it's almost impossible to choose a favourite track from Wintersun, this one might be it for me. It's sad that we have to wait for Time II probably for at least 5 years :(
Not only 5 😔
Well 5 years have passed where is the album
That was one hell of a forecast accuracy!
Off by only one year, remarkable!
This is just insane in the very best possible way.
Awesome job with the editing!
Thanks! It was fun to do.
Finally...it's TIME II be released
Masterpiece
What can I say that I have not already said ! Wonderfull Music .
I really hope this announcement this week is about Time 2 😭
And it was! I gave it only 10% chance of it being about Time II
This song makes me feel happy and sad same time. This was recorded over 8 years ago and Jari talking about Time II.
Im starting to believe we never hear studio version of this or Time II.
Now late 2021 he says one of the 4 upcoming albums is over 50% done. And its not Time II. I supported the crowdfunding and will support in future. I hope im so fucking wrong.
And as of yesterday, he said he stopped working on Time II since 2014 because he want to focus on other album and other stuff
Fun, considering when we backed up the crowdfucking, it was clearly said it was to work on Time II
@@claire6650 Yeah i read it too. Its frustrating, but still Jari is like a god to me, so good music. Frustrating is that how many epic songs he has unpublished because "not ready" like this one.
@@claire6650the original plan was to have a few more crowdfunding campaigns to build the Wintersun headquarters before being able to finish Time II, but fortunately to us, he managed to build the semi-studio and with the help of modern plug-in technology he was able to finish Time II and we are only one month away from the release, so let's rejoice!
This was supposed to be released about 2006. Fvckin' 13 years already, who would have thought it? :)
Jari should be playing in stadiums. Selling out Madison Square and on the popular radio stations. It is sad to see what this world has come to. Most people do not have the intelligence it takes to understand music this complex.
Can't agree more. People cheering at tasteless music makes me sad for this world
There are two kinds of music listeners in this world. The first kind comprises of people who take in the music brainlessly, just listening to something without knowing why or for what reason. Whether you give them Beethoven or Lil Wayne, it won’t make even a pennyworth of difference. Now there is a second kind of listener.This kind does not just listen to music, but lives it. This kind experiences the music at simultaneously many levels, not just in an auditory fashion. These kinds of listeners are few, especially if the age group is constricted from teenage to the low 20s, something that was done by the researcher Virgil Griffith. But it can be confidently stated that a person in that age group generally listens to music superficially. For a teenager to experience a song or an instrumental piece is rare, and those who do, listen to Beethoven as much as Kenny G, as much as Linkin Park, as much as Pink Floyd. These ‘music experiencers’ will almost never listen to songs by Lil Wayne or Beyonce,because Firstly, those songs are totally meaningless & secondly, those songs have no enticing melody, and thirdly, because characters like Lil Wayne are almost not someone you want to identify with. But the average teenager getsinto a rut, and just listens to what the web shows as the week’s “HOT 100”. The teenager is literally being fed these songs. Very few teenagers exist who sift through songs based on quality instead of just listening to whatever the heck they get. If these “HOT xyz” lists were to be replaced by the works of Mozart ,and Beethoven, the same experiment would see a huge shift in statistics relating the SAT scores to the type of music someone prefers.
Let me give an example. Take 1000 people from that age group, and let 10 of them be the experiencers. From these 10, let 4 choose Beethoven as their favourite, while the other 6 have eclectic tastes and preferences, with the remaining 990 preferring everything else. Obviously the ones being eclectic overlap in tastes with both the 990 andthe 4, but the 990 will obviously dominate their respective Genres. Thus the experiment will show that the ones preferring Beethoven are better in SATs,etc. The Beethoven is not important here, but the sheer numbers dominating all the other genres, is. Thus, if someone really has an ear for music, it does not matter what he listens to, because whatever it is, it will always complement his/her intelligence, because people who listen to songs without any thinking,and follow people like Beyonce, Lil Wayne, or Kanye West blindly, just because they think that they are cool and don’t give a f**k, are mostly the people who have a very low opinion formation capacity, low thinking capacity, and absolutely no taste in music.
I think exactly the same when I hear my beloved Goregrind/Pornogore metal.
Seriously, WHAT FUCKING MISERABLE WORLD WE LIVE IN!!!
I agree but thats not how Music works ^^
i think that there is also many people among those who listen to metal that actually don't give a shit about what it is about and don't care about lyrics and emotional content. for the group of people i'm talking about i think it's all about "i wanna be the tough guy, i wanna listen to stuff as brutal as possible, i wanna listen to stuff that others feel alienated"... there is also a certain amount of metal bands that only serve to satisfy these needs...
BUT with bands like wintersun, with many bands of melodic death metal that inweave a lot of compassion, dedication and emotion in general, it's different. this type of music and band is very authentic and honest albums are written by one songwriter or one band that stant for the content, and produced by one producer. an album by rihanna is written by 18 songwriters and produced 25 producers... therefore mainstream pop music is very superficial and made for an undifferentiated public and there is no deeper connection between the "artist"/performer and the audience.
music from bands like wintersun has a lot of depth and content and one has to somehow make an effort (what is a significant threshold for mainstream consumers) to connect with this kind of music. but once you manage to link with it, it opens you a whole magnificent world of honest and true emotions.
after all i think it's all about the question, whether someone only wants to just consume and have some sound on his/her ears or someone really wants to sit down and listen truly to the music and is open for building up an emotional relation with it (what i think anyways is only possible with authentic music written by "true" songwriters). that's why some bands are only hyped over quite short spaces of time and on very rare occations while others have fans that stay true for decades...
And this was 9 years ago, still no studio-version of it :(
Yeah its frustrating
We don't have to wait long anymore :)
I think it's funny to see the overall video quality of the recordings increasing over the years while this song still not has been unleashed in studio quality. And everytime I read about a new multicam recording of it, I discover something new due to that.
4:03 - 5:19 love the chorus
I have yet to see this band live. There are very few bands these days that get me excited to go to a concert. This band is one of the few. Every performance I've seen on UA-cam is at or above studio quality and is just superb musicianship.
The crazy thing is that the studio quality of this song is far better. Jari went far and beyond to make the studio version sound sublime. It's no wonder why it took so long before he was able to finish Time II.
god, just think, this is just one song off of time II...
its gonna be the most epic album ever made, I just know it.
***** The best song he's ever written, according to Jari!
***** Can I ask what Silver Leaves is please?
It's a track on Time 2
Azhi Ragnaroksama It was in an interview with jari, the one that nuclear blast did for the fans