In .224" i mostly used 55gr eldm for whitetail deer or 73gr for whitetail deer and black bear. Hoping to get my hands on some 77gr tmk or might dabble with 80gr eldm. The 75gr bthp match performs very similar to the 73gr eldm. In .264" i used the 140 and 147gr eldm for deer, bear, bison, and whatever. I have no issue using them for any land mammal in north america. In .308" ive used 208gr and 225gr eldm. I find them to be a bit much for everything I'm killing. Ive loaded 168gr eldm for friends in 308win and 30-06 for whitetail deer, black bear, and moose, and they all seem pretty happy about performance.
I shot a 140 Amax at 560 yard through my 260 Rem at a 2litre water bottle. The bullet was shredded. So I have no issues with using them on anything from fox’s to deer. I think if the bullet has retained sufficient speed it will do the job. Good video. 👍
Good commentary man. I run the 162 eld over the eldx (rem mag) as I found out passed 500m the eldx a bit hard where as the softer eldm will still open up even on lung shots
I have shot close to 150 animals with rifles using all kinds of hunting bullets, ironically i started using ELDMs and have had the exact experience as you. On average that bullet has created the shortst tracking jobs I have experienced. Most animals having made it passed 10 yards or so.
I tried the eldm on mule deer twice, because my gun shot them so well. Both times the deer was knocked down on impact and then got back up and ran off with very little blood to follow. Both deer were recovered, but there was some worry of losing the animal. I switched to the eldx after this and haven't had any problems.
@@garrettsorensen3367 Yep, the 6.5mm caliber starts to struggle with larger game weights. Fine for whitetail sized deer but lacks the diameter for elk sized. What i mean by struggle is if the projectile placement isnt perfect it results in a delayed kill. You will find the same issue will come out long with the eldx even worse. If you have a look at my channel I have run low velocity loads with the eldx to test expansion etc. Ive attached a video of mine showing a deer kill with 6.5 at 725 yards . ua-cam.com/video/2qimqqq1Q3g/v-deo.html
@hardantlerhunting9691Thanks for attaching the video. I subbed to your channel and went through some of your vidoes. I like your channel. It looks like you are getting good results with the eldm. I've had better with the eldx so that is what I will stick with until it proves otherwise. I love talking hunting and seeing what is working and what isnt for hunters. Thanks for responding to my post.
Rate the speeds you get with the long 284, so efficient! Just loaded a ladder with the 180eldm for my rem mag will be happy if I get 2950 which doesn't say much for it compared to the 284 haha
Love your work Stan. Not that you'd need convincing, but if ya haven't already listened to these podcasts, yourself and like-minded others might want to listen to 'The Hunt Backcountry Podcast' episodes #469 and #470. They'll support what you say here👍
Sure you can. But with so many modern bullets in circulation I am not sure why you would. But if Hornady doesn't recommend it I am not going to push it. Seems like the consistency may not be there. I'm sure the majority of the times it would perform but I dont see the need to take a chance.
Personally I use the eldx with great success but i only shoot out to 500.From what i have heard and read the eldm is probably more accurate however the eldx works for me.
The X is probably a better bullet for Bush stalking and close range. The M just expands faster and better at lower velocities but the down side to that is it blows up in the animal when above 2600fps. Good stuff. 👍
@hardantlerhunting9691 the x is good at longer ranges, at close like bush stalking it blows to pieces like ballistic tips.Their are better bullets for bush stalking.
have found to be a devastating hunting bullet.as you said dont drive them into anything to fast and they are a savage killer for ranges past 200.147 in the prc around 2900 is a good combo.
@@hardantlerhunting9691 think a mates getting around 2800-2850 with 155 Sierra TMK so assume you'd get similar with eldm? Unsure how hot he's loading them, barrel length over 20inch but again insure exact how long
CAN THEY work for big game, YES, should you use them HELL NO! (too frangible). -- hit a shoulder, and your deer runs off and dies.... And you loose it.
Follow-through! Press the trigger, hold, and stay in the scope through recoil. Fundamentals of marksmanship. ELDMs work good.
@peteivanthomas 100%. Good comment mate
In .224" i mostly used 55gr eldm for whitetail deer or 73gr for whitetail deer and black bear. Hoping to get my hands on some 77gr tmk or might dabble with 80gr eldm. The 75gr bthp match performs very similar to the 73gr eldm.
In .264" i used the 140 and 147gr eldm for deer, bear, bison, and whatever. I have no issue using them for any land mammal in north america.
In .308" ive used 208gr and 225gr eldm. I find them to be a bit much for everything I'm killing.
Ive loaded 168gr eldm for friends in 308win and 30-06 for whitetail deer, black bear, and moose, and they all seem pretty happy about performance.
@@NorthRiverGuide nice
Been using the 180 and 225 gr eld-m. Both are great rounds for deer and elk. They behave much better than the eld-x bullets and hold together better,
Nice man
Eldm all day used the x once will never use again. Awesome stuff bro
Cheers man
I shot a 140 Amax at 560 yard through my 260 Rem at a 2litre water bottle. The bullet was shredded. So I have no issues with using them on anything from fox’s to deer. I think if the bullet has retained sufficient speed it will do the job. Good video. 👍
@@markhoulding1938 thanks
Good commentary man. I run the 162 eld over the eldx (rem mag) as I found out passed 500m the eldx a bit hard where as the softer eldm will still open up even on lung shots
Thanks
I have shot close to 150 animals with rifles using all kinds of hunting bullets, ironically i started using ELDMs and have had the exact experience as you. On average that bullet has created the shortst tracking jobs I have experienced. Most animals having made it passed 10 yards or so.
@brandonurbaniak1890 good comment mam
I tried the eldm on mule deer twice, because my gun shot them so well. Both times the deer was knocked down on impact and then got back up and ran off with very little blood to follow. Both deer were recovered, but there was some worry of losing the animal. I switched to the eldx after this and haven't had any problems.
6.5mm? Weight?
@hardantlerhunting9691 6.5 Creedmoor. Both shots were over 400 yards, that might have played into it.
@@garrettsorensen3367 Yep, the 6.5mm caliber starts to struggle with larger game weights. Fine for whitetail sized deer but lacks the diameter for elk sized. What i mean by struggle is if the projectile placement isnt perfect it results in a delayed kill. You will find the same issue will come out long with the eldx even worse. If you have a look at my channel I have run low velocity loads with the eldx to test expansion etc. Ive attached a video of mine showing a deer kill with 6.5 at 725 yards . ua-cam.com/video/2qimqqq1Q3g/v-deo.html
@@garrettsorensen3367a 6.5 creedmoor at over 400yds and you think it’s the bullet 🤦♂️
@hardantlerhunting9691Thanks for attaching the video. I subbed to your channel and went through some of your vidoes. I like your channel. It looks like you are getting good results with the eldm. I've had better with the eldx so that is what I will stick with until it proves otherwise. I love talking hunting and seeing what is working and what isnt for hunters. Thanks for responding to my post.
Just returned from WY used ELD-M for Antelope; harvested 3, one Doe ran 10 yds, Buck ran 30 yds, Doe dropped on the spot.
All in my cooler.
@@truthteller5539 nice
Nice 👌
Rate the speeds you get with the long 284, so efficient! Just loaded a ladder with the 180eldm for my rem mag will be happy if I get 2950 which doesn't say much for it compared to the 284 haha
Thanks mate. I'm on a 20inch barrel as well. Nothing wrong with the faithful 7RM mate.
Love your work Stan. Not that you'd need convincing, but if ya haven't already listened to these podcasts, yourself and like-minded others might want to listen to 'The Hunt Backcountry Podcast' episodes #469 and #470. They'll support what you say here👍
Thanks mate 👍. Will swing that in the car one day
We used to call it ‘AMaxed’. I guess they’re the same bar the new tip material?
@@sandcontour yes they are. But I think the design is different to achieve higher BC
Sure you can. But with so many modern bullets in circulation I am not sure why you would. But if Hornady doesn't recommend it I am not going to push it. Seems like the consistency may not be there. I'm sure the majority of the times it would perform but I dont see the need to take a chance.
Cheers
Personally I use the eldx with great success but i only shoot out to 500.From what i have heard and read the eldm is probably more accurate however the eldx works for me.
The X is probably a better bullet for Bush stalking and close range. The M just expands faster and better at lower velocities but the down side to that is it blows up in the animal when above 2600fps. Good stuff. 👍
@hardantlerhunting9691 the x is good at longer ranges, at close like bush stalking it blows to pieces like ballistic tips.Their are better bullets for bush stalking.
@nakisteelo4761 interesting. I guess the SST or barnes is better in the bush. But no one like the BC on those projectiles haha.
@@hardantlerhunting9691 Probably too fast,going 2700 out the muzzle.
Anything with a bit of lead on the end is better at close.
have found to be a devastating hunting bullet.as you said dont drive them into anything to fast and they are a savage killer for ranges past 200.147 in the prc around 2900 is a good combo.
Yea man. Nice
Well done and why not…👍👍👍
@@CLAWN76 cheers
I use the 155 grain hornady eld match. Big 12 pointer did run longest at 15-20 feet
Nice
@@EvyHatleset what muzzle velocity mate?
True, the 155 would go over 3k in 308 wouldnt it?@Link-xw3wk
@@hardantlerhunting9691 think a mates getting around 2800-2850 with 155 Sierra TMK so assume you'd get similar with eldm? Unsure how hot he's loading them, barrel length over 20inch but again insure exact how long
Last deer was a285 G @2300 fps 338/06
@@jeffreywilson690 nice. Cool catridge
@jeffreywilson690 what's you mv?
@@hardantlerhunting9691 2300 fps, but can do 3000 fps with 185graingmx/2840 with 200grain sst/230grain eldx
@jeffreywilson690 that's cool man 👌
Nice
Cheers
Varmint maybe
For sure
CAN THEY work for big game, YES, should you use them HELL NO! (too frangible). -- hit a shoulder, and your deer runs off and dies.... And you loose it.
Cheers. Did you watch the video?
Obviously didn’t watch the video 😅🤦🏼♂️
Yeah, Nathan Foster must be wrong too.
@WildNZ haha thanks for the backup, mate. 👌
@@jamesmooney5348 yea, what does that expert know right. 🤣