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Interesting how the form presents very straightforward, simple techniques like those shown in historical manuscripts (I think most from that song era thing with peach in the title?). Very surprising for an internal style, at least from what I've seen around the Internet and during open classes! Less surprising are the similarities between this and the Western MA I practice - there's even meyer's feint and "snake thrust" following an obligatory beatdown! Really cool stuff. Wish there were people teaching proper wushu in my town. Or region. Or country lmao
Hi! Well, I live in Beijing and have lived here for 13 years. Hopefully in the near future I will set up something to help people get good quality traditional weapons etc.
@@MuShinMartialCulture That would be great! I had a cheap spear that broke practicing chops. The one I have now is better but it is still very whippy and I can tell there is a big difference in the quality of wood compared to yours.
Training you can use flexible shafts, but they shouldn't be overtly flexible and they should be heavy. This spear is waxwood. For combat, a firm wood used,and there are a few types
Overly bendy Spears can easily be snapped,but it forces tighter control and more minimized movements while training.Think of the bend as training wheels that make it harder to ride a bike
@@mithrasabyss2765 i always thought the flexibility should give you a feedback of your technical prowess? just asking, started out with XY just recently because i found so many similarities to double knife
franck herrmannsen well that’s kind of what I meant.The more flexible the spear,the harder it is to fully control,so if you can control a very flexible spear,you’ll be at a high level with a solid one
“Xingyi Quan techniques are derived from spear methods" I believe this statement is incorrect. There is a fist form which is part of the BaGua Zhang system called Hammer fist. The upper body movements are identical to Xingyi’s upper body. The footwork is where they differ. Xingyi has the Spear based footwork while BaGua Zhang’s Hammer Fist has normal right left walking footwork typical of early BaGua Zhang. I would speculate that a BaGua Zhang teacher, and there weren’t many, taught the Hammer Fist to the skilled Spear expert. Instead of learning new footwork the skilled spear expert kept what he knew and was experienced with, only adding the upper body structure of BaGua Zhang’s Hammer Fist, blending these two styles. Additionally, Sun Lu Tang discusses how the name of the art now known as Xingyi was not always called this, but went through one or two name changes. What was the original name of the art now called Xingyi? These are clues to Xingyi’s origin.
Hi. The corpus of the original content taught by the founder of bagua zhang did not include something called hammer fist. In my Liang style bagua we don't have any routine called hammer fist. The original name for bagua zhang was simply zhuan Zhang (turning palms), and it's oldest content was single palm change and double palm change. It bears no connection to spear. Xingyi five element fists directly mirror spear techniques for a large part, as does it's foot work, and it's core tactics etc. Sun lutang mentions the name of the art prior to li luoneng, namely Xin Yi Quan (xin meaning heart). You may read the history I translated here www.diguoyongwushu.com which is a site I made for my teacher.
Xingyiquan was derived from Xinyi Liuhe, which in turn was created by Ji Jilong, who converted his spear techniques into a fist form. It was after he was retired from the military. Li Luoneng learnt Xinyi Liuhe from the Dai family, and later on changed the art's appearance and called it Xingyiquan.
There was exchanges between Baguzhang and Xinyi exponents, so it's not surprising to find some similarities. However, it is well documented that they have vastly different origins.
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Interesting how the form presents very straightforward, simple techniques like those shown in historical manuscripts (I think most from that song era thing with peach in the title?). Very surprising for an internal style, at least from what I've seen around the Internet and during open classes!
Less surprising are the similarities between this and the Western MA I practice - there's even meyer's feint and "snake thrust" following an obligatory beatdown! Really cool stuff. Wish there were people teaching proper wushu in my town. Or region. Or country lmao
That is simply outstanding, Byron. Your technique is so good and strong.
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing this one , everything xing yi I love..
Great to hear. Glad you liked it
That was great to watch!!!!!!!!👏👏👏
Thanks!
If it can't be used with a spear, it's not good Hsing I. Nice job
Dude yes !!! Love the Spear that's a great share man !! Thanks !!!
I can see someone given you the “close door” training! Congratulation
Thanks
This was awesome! Thank you for sharing!
Excellent. Thanks
Love working with the spear!
Wonderful very nice! Thank you so very much for sharing! Many Blessings and Continued Success!
Thanks!\
Very Powerful! Very Beautiful 🤗got to get used to using my left hand lead 😳a southern stylist you know 😏😬
Thanks!
That looks so sick! What is the length of that spear? 3 m?
Thanks. Its over 3m :)
Great job!
Very cool.
Thank you
Wow...this teacher exudes the essence of Kung Fu.
Wow amazing
Thanks
Where do you get that type of spear? I have been looking and cannot find one of quality material.
Hi! Well, I live in Beijing and have lived here for 13 years. Hopefully in the near future I will set up something to help people get good quality traditional weapons etc.
@@MuShinMartialCulture That would be great! I had a cheap spear that broke practicing chops. The one I have now is better but it is still very whippy and I can tell there is a big difference in the quality of wood compared to yours.
@@Anthony_Ang3 You can try LK Chen channel on youtube, he sell (mostly) Chinese weapons over abroad. I think i've seen he has spear as prodtuct.
VERY well done!
Gold! 👊🏼
Thanks
Thanks!
Fantastic!
Crisp amd solid.
Excelente!!!
Thank you
Awesome
Good video!
From what material would the shaft of the spear be made with? Rattan? Must it always be flexible like that?
Training you can use flexible shafts, but they shouldn't be overtly flexible and they should be heavy. This spear is waxwood. For combat, a firm wood used,and there are a few types
@@MuShinMartialCulture Thank you!
Overly bendy Spears can easily be snapped,but it forces tighter control and more minimized movements while training.Think of the bend as training wheels that make it harder to ride a bike
@@mithrasabyss2765 i always thought the flexibility should give you a feedback of your technical prowess? just asking, started out with XY just recently because i found so many similarities to double knife
franck herrmannsen well that’s kind of what I meant.The more flexible the spear,the harder it is to fully control,so if you can control a very flexible spear,you’ll be at a high level with a solid one
great form!
What is the spear made of?
White Waxwood (Bai La Gan)
@@MuShinMartialCulture Cool. Thank you.
我最愛是大槍
👏👏👏
😮😮😮👏👏👏👏👏🙌
.Yes Great form.
以形意传人的角度看，这老外得了真传了
Nice Japanese soundtrack
Thanks
🥴形意拳了解透了，就知道是炮兵兵武术。
只不过比较实用。
就那么几个劲，掌握好了，也就是古代合格的长枪兵。
但是和日本的香取神道流等比较，像乡下拳。
“Xingyi Quan techniques are derived from spear methods"
I believe this statement is incorrect. There is a fist form which is part of the BaGua Zhang system called Hammer fist. The upper body movements are identical to Xingyi’s upper body. The footwork is where they differ. Xingyi has the Spear based footwork while BaGua Zhang’s Hammer Fist has normal right left walking footwork typical of early BaGua Zhang.
I would speculate that a BaGua Zhang teacher, and there weren’t many, taught the Hammer Fist to the skilled Spear expert. Instead of learning new footwork the skilled spear expert kept what he knew and was experienced with, only adding the upper body structure of BaGua Zhang’s Hammer Fist, blending these two styles.
Additionally, Sun Lu Tang discusses how the name of the art now known as Xingyi was not always called this, but went through one or two name changes. What was the original name of the art now called Xingyi? These are clues to Xingyi’s origin.
Hi. The corpus of the original content taught by the founder of bagua zhang did not include something called hammer fist. In my Liang style bagua we don't have any routine called hammer fist. The original name for bagua zhang was simply zhuan Zhang (turning palms), and it's oldest content was single palm change and double palm change. It bears no connection to spear. Xingyi five element fists directly mirror spear techniques for a large part, as does it's foot work, and it's core tactics etc. Sun lutang mentions the name of the art prior to li luoneng, namely Xin Yi Quan (xin meaning heart). You may read the history I translated here www.diguoyongwushu.com which is a site I made for my teacher.
Xingyiquan was derived from Xinyi Liuhe, which in turn was created by Ji Jilong, who converted his spear techniques into a fist form. It was after he was retired from the military.
Li Luoneng learnt Xinyi Liuhe from the Dai family, and later on changed the art's appearance and called it Xingyiquan.
There was exchanges between Baguzhang and Xinyi exponents, so it's not surprising to find some similarities. However, it is well documented that they have vastly different origins.