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He’s a former Navy Master Chief that was a corpsman and spent time with the Marines. As a former Marine, I can tell you his Ward Cleaver act is just that. Don’t be fooled. His wife and kids know the real Brad.
I tell people that low range is a tool that should be used whenever possible. Climbing/descending steep fsr, towing heavy trailers offroad, and more. Don't think "do I need it", instead I like to think "can I use it"
@@BillyBob-im7og if you have a manual mode that allows you to select a gear, then the basic answer is no. it will not harm your vehicle. but do not over rev the vehicle going down a hill. keep rpms from running away.
@@BillyBob-im7og You have to keep the RPMs down under redline and definitely do not shift into 1st when you are going too fast for that gear. Also, you should know what speed your car red lines at in 1st gear. If you downshift to 1st, you MUST be going WELL UNDER your known REDLINE speed. Otherwise you WILL DAMAGE your engine and probably transmission as well. (A modern car should theoretically not allow that shift, but I wouldn’t my whole drivetrain on it) This applies to downshifting for any gear, not just first. Each gear will have it’s own redline speed and you want to be a nice margin below that. I don’t want to make specific recommendations without knowing your vehicle but, on anything other than the most expensive high-performance engines, I don’t feel comfortable downshifting if I know my RPMs are going to go up much beyond 3500 or 4000 rpm on a car that has a 6000 RPM redline. Just because an engine can be wound up to a certain speed briefly under the most demanding acceleration, does not mean it’s smart to instantly wind that engine up to that speed. Plus, if you are going downhill and you shift into near redline, then gravity pulls you a little faster downhill, you are instantly hitting redline, and having to shift again anyways.
When I first started wheeling, I had a manual 2017 Willys Wheeler. I always used 4-low. My friends that had automatics would brag "I dont even need to put mine in low gear". Never thought much of it. I do remember how often I'd see them spinning or high revving though. Especially on the intense trails in big bear.
2020+ wrangler 4xe manual recommends a less than 3 mph roll to engage 4-Lo. Worked better than stopped. My Square body does not care if you’re slightly rolling or stopped. I had a Ford that was a push button 4WD and that thing was a pain. Roll backwards then forward, say a prayer, sacrifice a goat and sit through a seminar. Then MAYBE it would go 4-Lo!!
That's how I learned to drive a four-wheeler when I was 8 years old idling behind my father and his friends while they were Jack snipe hunting, thanks Dad! I wish they still made Jeeps like they used to they did not have computer sensors , chips and circuit boards that are ruined when they get wet but they have a snorkel on the air intake that looks cool I guess and a few years ago there were a lot of Toyotas with snorkels in town but there is only one around here that is still running because he has not had it in water
Was climbing Mt Princeton in Colorado, following a friend and he kept complaining his trans temps were climbing. We even had to stop and eat lunch on a switchback to let it cool off. After reaching the summit and enjoying the view, we headed down. When he downshifted for the descent, he realized that he hadn't ever shifted into 4Low, and he's an experienced off roader! Just a forgetful oversite that nearly cost him a trans!
Also, know your vehicle. My brother has a 79 Jeep CJ7. In order to use 4wd, you have to get out and lock the front wheel hubs first, then shift into 4wd. My XJ is much easier, stop, shift to neutral, then shift into 4wd.
The fun though is when you put him in an old school four-wheel drive and you have to lock the manuals hubs then get in the vehicle and shifted in to either for high or four low😂
I generally use 4 Low when going up hill on trails, also if I'm doing some obstacles. Now, my last truck did not have locking differentials. My current one has a locking rear differential. I can't wait to try it out soon.
I had been using 4wd low in jeep sport s without realizing and whenever I turn my whole steering wheel wobble crazy and whenever I go above 15mph my car stop and make aggressive sound 😅 that was before now I know about 4wd
I use 4low anytime im doing about 20 or less and/or hitting hill. One mistake i noticed thats common for beginners is trying to shift into low while still moving. Ive always driven 4x4's from the 70's and it was necessary to be at a stop, but you could shift into 4high in motion. Now sure about these newer vehicles though
Same for newer vehicles too. Full stop for 4Low, can shift into 4Hi while moving except a lot of modern vehicles limit how fast you can go in 4Hi. We have a 2011 Rav4 that automatically kicks out of 4Hi around 30MPH (which is a bit annoying lol). My RAM I can run at least 70 in 4Hi.
Jeep JLs you shift while rolling slightly. If you attempt at a stop, you are going to have a hard time. The transfer case will just pop into neutral and you have to fight it to engage. Literally the manual says to shift while moving. So no, it isn't a mistake that is common for beginners. Beginners actually read the manual unlike those that claim to know it all but don't.
If you are in a situation where you can’t roll the Jeep to engage 4Lo, just turn the engine off and then shift into 4Lo from neutral. It should engage with no problem. No hear clashing. I have done this many times with my Cherokee and Wrangler.
Can you please talk about the 3.6 pentestar, regarding the oil coolant housing cracking and needing replacement pretty early in the engines life. That seems like a major issue that nobody really talks about. Thank you.
My 2017 Grand Cherokee blew the seals between the oil cooler and the filter housing at 93k miles. Was an absolute pain to replace. Only reason I knew it went was because the water pump started weeping and making noise. Noticed the coolant was getting cloudy. My 2015 wrangler has had no issues to date and it has 106k miles.
@@petergisel4864 I hear yeah brotha. I’ve seen people replace them, looks like a major pain in the ass. I wish more people talked about it, people with larger channels that can help the little guys.
The reason they don't want you using 2wd low is that you can more easily break u-joints because of the doubled torque. The deuce and a halfs we had 50 years ago had 5 spd manual transmissions but they had a "torus member" (fluid coupling) to prevent broken drivetrains when somebody dumped the clutch.
I use 4 LOW anytime I know I'll be limited to less that 20 MPH-ish off-road. I also drag my 10K pound travel up a mountain with about 6000 feet of elevation gain during deer and elk season, and frequently use 4 LOW when descending just to make it easier on the brakes.
@@NGcCharlie Except for the fact the drivetrain is designed for full time use whereas brakes are meant to be used intermittently, but you do you. How is deceleration on the drivetrain any different than acceleration or pulling a load?
That was the basic rule of thumb driving on steep hills on any kind of road when I got my drivers license: Downhill with no brakes is the same gear that works nicely uphill. This was later enforced when I learned terrain driving during military service.
@@HAHA.GoodMemeA lot of the contemporary AWD softroaders use the brakes for Hill Descent and TC/VSC. Even many of the contemporary 4WDs use the brakes for things like that. My CVT Crosstrek even uses an electronically-controlled clutch system in the center differential, and any system like that could overheat with rough usage too.
Well, if people read the damn manual, they would find information in there regarding when to use 4-low, and how to properly engage it without damaging rhe transfer case.
@@berniedmj1 At one house, yes it is electric. The other house came with a gas mower. A real pain in the ass really, but I only need it once a year. Pretty hard to justify a change.
I prefer 4 LOW whenever possible, as it is far easier on the transmission. This is due to the higher rotation per torque ratio that acts on the transmission as well as higher apply pressure of transmission clutches due to higher transmission pump speeds. It is a win-win.
My rigs don't always turn the best in 4-low. But I do use 4-low to get the camper up on leveling blocks. Works great, in fact that's one of the reasons I insisted my tow rig have 4WD.
I have heard many times. People saying they don’t even put it into 4wd until they get stuck, 4 low and or lockers are just to get you out. I think these people just enjoy being stuck.
My 4cyl/manual YJ rarely got stuck in deep snowdrifts because it would run out of torque while trying to churn 31" mudders in 4H/1st with stock R&P gearing. I'd put it in 4L/reverse and back out of trouble, to have another go.
As soon as I get off a graded road I put in in 4 low. I find it funny that some people think is somehow macho to do a trail without going into 4wd and especially low 4wd.
I am often with a group that does this. I feel like it is one thing as a game, like let's see how far I can go, but there's a big difference between that and puffing out your chest saying "Oh you used 4WD? I DIDN'T NEED IT!" It's kind of like using a screwdriver when you have a drill on your tool belt.
People don't seem to realize how much refusing to switch into 4WD can tear up the trails too. I get that it's a fun challenge, but people need to show some basic respect for the trails and save that stuff for OHV areas that are already chopped up. It drives me especially crazy as someone who frequently has to use these dirt access roads for work. A beat up trail can be fun on my own time in my own truck. Trying to get a bone stock fleet truck through them in a timely manner... not so much.
I always cringe a bit when a random guy from the group pipes up with “i havent even take it out of 2 high yet” like dude its not contest to idle 2k higher than the group. Your rig will thank you on the ascent by not puking coolant all over the trail or grenading a set if ring gears pulling 100% when they could have been pulling 50:50
Great to have no worries but this nonsense! Sorry but I can’t get into this mindset. But good for you if you like it. 😂😂can you do this without a flannel shirt?
Slow speeds going thru trails and technical turns and speed hills also helps keep the transmission temps down. If I pull a heavy trailer Offroad and am under 20 mph I’ll go to 4low and the transmission never gets hot.
It's wild that my Pro4X has a lower gear ratio than the Rubicon. 4low is my go-to for steep ascents but more so the control on steep descents is significantly better than the hill descent feature
I love this kind of advice! I bought a Rubicon a while ago and I really love it. But I do have to learn how to use its features better. I've been to Moab, Little Moab, Hurricane, through the mountains, etc... The Jeep is just a fantastic vehicle for the trails. It's just wide enough too.
I hate to break it to you, but that's just as true on the roads. Yet half the people there are so clueless you wonder how they managed to even pass the driver's test.
To anyone who doesn't know he built the Red 392 JL, his wife's yellow 2 Door JL, and the kitted out Silver JK I aspire to be like this man, good morals and attitude; and even better taste in jeeps
One way to remember to use 4 low is ; if you wish to “crawl “ over an obstacle, then put it in 4 low before you start your clime or descent: CRAWL-4LOW Thank you Brad, and like others said select low in your automatic transmission as well for those steep climbs and decent, and let the engine braking help you as you slowly descend, unless of course if your modern 4x4 has hill decent mode then let it do it’s job 👍🏼
It's difficult when you have a an automatic jeep TJ that in the literal owners manual it states even if done correctly as an automatic there is a flaw where it will grind gears and get stuck in neutral
When it comes time to shift your vehicle, it comes down to personal opinion on when it may be necessary and that can be based on experience. You have your opinion on when it's necessary and that doesn't mean that new off-roaders are uneducated or don't know. Your entire video is basically asserting your opinion as the correct way to do everything but fails to recognize that perhaps you're just being a baby and putting your vehicle into four low way before it's anywhere is necessary because you're so inexperienced and uncomfortable driving in those different road conditions that you're not capable of actually doing it without having your vehicle and for low. Maybe you're just not a good enough driver to be able to handle these things without having your vehicle shifted into four low
4Lo is trouble when it coms to mud. Lo range does NOT help on a muddy slick downhill. No tires is designed for that. The tires will not clean out nor grab unless the wheel speed is tremendous. Impossible to do riding the brakes. On hardpack or rock, it really matters if you have open diffs or lockers, too. Many 4WD systems are not full time, too.
I just like to wheel in 2wd, if stuff gets sketchy, go to 4HI, and if its a little sketchier, go to 4LO. To each his own. I'm not saying this guy is wrong (i feel like its pretty obvious, but im gonna say it just in case), just sharing what i do as another perspective on it.
I used 4L for the 1st time and my Jeep kept launching forward with high rpm’s when I barely stepped on the gas. Is that normal? Didn’t feel normal. I have manual if that matters. 4H drives like normal.
A general rule that I tell people is this: if the conditions of the road require you to drive slow enough to allow 4L then you should just use 4L. I say 15mph or under. Once they get more experience they will learn for themselves what kind of terrain works best in 4L.
I don’t think you can get any more torque by shifting into 4 low. Maximum torque is from the engine, and transfer case does not do any magic. Exact same torque, only more force with a higher gear ratio.
It's in general a good idea to put the JK and JL in 4Low even when it could handle the trail in 4High. This is especially true for the Diesel. The gearbox gets far too hot in 4High. The Diesel has a lot of torque and with this the JK could handle harder trails in 4High but the converter gets very hot.
I got a 2020 Ram 1500 that I recently took off-roading, kept it 4Lo the entire time. I didnt even need to give it gas when I was going through trails, the truck would pull itself through all I had to do was keep my foot over the brake pedal for when I needed to slow down. Only time I got stuck is when it got high centered cause its still sitting at stock height, but other than that one time the truck did perfectly climbed up near vertical hills like they were nothing
You are also running much higher transmission/ T-case temps in low range. We dont like doing that any more than necessary when ambient temps are over 100°F
It’s great and sad that you made this video. If someone is “off-roading” and doesn’t have the knowledge of how to shift in 4 lo might need to keep their off roaring to dirt road sections between asphalt roads.
Good info. Theres also a note on usage. I came from swampy delta land. Lows not that great in mud. Wheel speed to clear tread makes a diff. On rock and trail. Def low. Gotta know your rig combination and capabilities
It amazes me how many people do not have mechanical knowledge. I do the high mountain passes in CO, going down steep stretches in 4 low really helps, use engine braking and let it go slow with no foot on the brake pedal.
Or if you're an SSG in the army, and you have no idea how 4 wheel drive works, you slam that hmmwv transfer case lever while still in motion, and ignore the horrible grinding sound.
People shifting to 4 low is like watching people launch a boat at a boat ramp
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this dude seems so wholesome. you just know he makes breakfast for his family on the weekends
He’s a former Navy Master Chief that was a corpsman and spent time with the Marines. As a former Marine, I can tell you his Ward Cleaver act is just that. Don’t be fooled. His wife and kids know the real Brad.
Seems like a typical retired navy officer. Trying hard to get invited for a beer.
@@MrBoomStick I've known the "real" Brad for more than 30 years and what you see is what you get. And he makes fantastic omelettes!
@@RabbiJesus He was enlisted, not an officer.
@@regenakowitz the sailors wife runs to his rescue. 🤣 classic.
I tell people that low range is a tool that should be used whenever possible. Climbing/descending steep fsr, towing heavy trailers offroad, and more. Don't think "do I need it", instead I like to think "can I use it"
Do you know if in a regular non 4wd when using the manual mode and going down a hill in first does that harm the car?
@@BillyBob-im7og if you have a manual mode that allows you to select a gear, then the basic answer is no. it will not harm your vehicle. but do not over rev the vehicle going down a hill. keep rpms from running away.
@@BillyBob-im7og You have to keep the RPMs down under redline and definitely do not shift into 1st when you are going too fast for that gear.
Also, you should know what speed your car red lines at in 1st gear. If you downshift to 1st, you MUST be going WELL UNDER your known REDLINE speed. Otherwise you WILL DAMAGE your engine and probably transmission as well. (A modern car should theoretically not allow that shift, but I wouldn’t my whole drivetrain on it)
This applies to downshifting for any gear, not just first. Each gear will have it’s own redline speed and you want to be a nice margin below that. I don’t want to make specific recommendations without knowing your vehicle but, on anything other than the most expensive high-performance engines, I don’t feel comfortable downshifting if I know my RPMs are going to go up much beyond 3500 or 4000 rpm on a car that has a 6000 RPM redline.
Just because an engine can be wound up to a certain speed briefly under the most demanding acceleration, does not mean it’s smart to instantly wind that engine up to that speed.
Plus, if you are going downhill and you shift into near redline, then gravity pulls you a little faster downhill, you are instantly hitting redline, and having to shift again anyways.
When I first started wheeling, I had a manual 2017 Willys Wheeler. I always used 4-low. My friends that had automatics would brag "I dont even need to put mine in low gear". Never thought much of it. I do remember how often I'd see them spinning or high revving though. Especially on the intense trails in big bear.
2020+ wrangler 4xe manual recommends a less than 3 mph roll to engage 4-Lo. Worked better than stopped. My Square body does not care if you’re slightly rolling or stopped. I had a Ford that was a push button 4WD and that thing was a pain. Roll backwards then forward, say a prayer, sacrifice a goat and sit through a seminar. Then MAYBE it would go 4-Lo!!
4xe are all garbage
Lol 😂
It’s also a lot easier on your transmission, especially in sand or anything with a lot of rolling resistance
The type of guy that makes his bed in the morning, and smiles right after.
That's how I learned to drive a four-wheeler when I was 8 years old idling behind my father and his friends while they were Jack snipe hunting, thanks Dad! I wish they still made Jeeps like they used to they did not have computer sensors , chips and circuit boards that are ruined when they get wet but they have a snorkel on the air intake that looks cool I guess and a few years ago there were a lot of Toyotas with snorkels in town but there is only one around here that is still running because he has not had it in water
Not to mention 4L keeps transmission temps diwn on obstacles and climbs
Was climbing Mt Princeton in Colorado, following a friend and he kept complaining his trans temps were climbing. We even had to stop and eat lunch on a switchback to let it cool off. After reaching the summit and enjoying the view, we headed down. When he downshifted for the descent, he realized that he hadn't ever shifted into 4Low, and he's an experienced off roader! Just a forgetful oversite that nearly cost him a trans!
Also, know your vehicle. My brother has a 79 Jeep CJ7. In order to use 4wd, you have to get out and lock the front wheel hubs first, then shift into 4wd. My XJ is much easier, stop, shift to neutral, then shift into 4wd.
I put my tj in 4-low and 2nd or 3rd gear and cruise the trails I love it
The fun though is when you put him in an old school four-wheel drive and you have to lock the manuals hubs then get in the vehicle and shifted in to either for high or four low😂
I generally use 4 Low when going up hill on trails, also if I'm doing some obstacles. Now, my last truck did not have locking differentials. My current one has a locking rear differential. I can't wait to try it out soon.
When I use 4low in my jeep gladiator with the manual transmission I like to use 1st gear and sometimes 2nd gear for different obstacles.
Always in 4 low and manual shift.
Great presentation. I like the board. Thank you for sharing
Big mistake, leaving it in 4Lo the whole time, and burning a lot more fuel than you anticipated using. Then barely making it out. 😂
Excellent tutorial 👍
My Samurai tops out at about 18mph in 4L.
The first mistake some 4 wheelers make. Is buying a Jeep to go 4 Wheeling.
I had been using 4wd low in jeep sport s without realizing and whenever I turn my whole steering wheel wobble crazy and whenever I go above 15mph my car stop and make aggressive sound 😅 that was before now I know about 4wd
This is me.
I can't get my Subaru into 4 low.
I like to do it at 75mph on the highway.
Plus your not using the brakes when descending
Every single vehicle was a jeep 😅
I use 4low anytime im doing about 20 or less and/or hitting hill. One mistake i noticed thats common for beginners is trying to shift into low while still moving. Ive always driven 4x4's from the 70's and it was necessary to be at a stop, but you could shift into 4high in motion. Now sure about these newer vehicles though
Same for newer vehicles too. Full stop for 4Low, can shift into 4Hi while moving except a lot of modern vehicles limit how fast you can go in 4Hi. We have a 2011 Rav4 that automatically kicks out of 4Hi around 30MPH (which is a bit annoying lol). My RAM I can run at least 70 in 4Hi.
bruh 4hi in ur rav4? Ur rav4 is awd not 4x4 what are you talking about.@@treyroberts8124
Jeep JLs you shift while rolling slightly. If you attempt at a stop, you are going to have a hard time. The transfer case will just pop into neutral and you have to fight it to engage. Literally the manual says to shift while moving. So no, it isn't a mistake that is common for beginners. Beginners actually read the manual unlike those that claim to know it all but don't.
lol reading manuals is for good people. I dunno about a dude who said he put his rav4 in 4 low, maybe he meant his 4runner@@bohunt8113
If you are in a situation where you can’t roll the Jeep to engage 4Lo, just turn the engine off and then shift into 4Lo from neutral. It should engage with no problem. No hear clashing. I have done this many times with my Cherokee and Wrangler.
Thank you
I don't think I've ever been in 4hi!
I practiced this in my driveway or the lawn I should say
Could you use 4l on ice?
I rarely use 4lo.
They don't know how to put in 4lo😮
Another mistake is making your vehicle lose all traction by wildly spinning your tires.
It's perfect if you want to get stuck.
You mean they don't know how to ...? Or they don't when to... ?
2wd in 4wd out
Can you please talk about the 3.6 pentestar, regarding the oil coolant housing cracking and needing replacement pretty early in the engines life. That seems like a major issue that nobody really talks about. Thank you.
My 2017 Grand Cherokee blew the seals between the oil cooler and the filter housing at 93k miles. Was an absolute pain to replace.
Only reason I knew it went was because the water pump started weeping and making noise. Noticed the coolant was getting cloudy.
My 2015 wrangler has had no issues to date and it has 106k miles.
@@petergisel4864 I hear yeah brotha. I’ve seen people replace them, looks like a major pain in the ass. I wish more people talked about it, people with larger channels that can help the little guys.
What about 4 lo low
4LOWLIFE!!
I don't know about newer jeeps. On older jeeps there's a part in the transfer case we all remove so you can use low range in 2wd
The reason they don't want you using 2wd low is that you can more easily break u-joints because of the doubled torque. The deuce and a halfs we had 50 years ago had 5 spd manual transmissions but they had a "torus member" (fluid coupling) to prevent broken drivetrains when somebody dumped the clutch.
Whats a 4 low
Ill gatekeep. If you dont understand what 4 low is, you have no business off pavement.
The number one mistake offroaders make is buying a jeep.
LOL JUST SAY IT..........THIS IS FOR GEN ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
I use 4 LOW anytime I know I'll be limited to less that 20 MPH-ish off-road. I also drag my 10K pound travel up a mountain with about 6000 feet of elevation gain during deer and elk season, and frequently use 4 LOW when descending just to make it easier on the brakes.
Cool bro
Id personally save wear on my 3000$ t-case while descending, than a 200$ set of brakes... but what do i know
@@NGcCharlie Except for the fact the drivetrain is designed for full time use whereas brakes are meant to be used intermittently, but you do you. How is deceleration on the drivetrain any different than acceleration or pulling a load?
@@NGcCharliemoney is not important. Your brakes failing and killing you descending down a big mountain is something you should prioritize preventing.
You also want to put it into manual shift. 1st gear and hill descent works awesome... no brakes needed. Want to go a bit faster, go to second gear.
Great advice, so many new offroaders are cooking their brakes by not doing this
That was the basic rule of thumb driving on steep hills on any kind of road when I got my drivers license:
Downhill with no brakes is the same gear that works nicely uphill.
This was later enforced when I learned terrain driving during military service.
You are learning so much ! I’m proud of you !
@@HAHA.GoodMemeA lot of the contemporary AWD softroaders use the brakes for Hill Descent and TC/VSC. Even many of the contemporary 4WDs use the brakes for things like that. My CVT Crosstrek even uses an electronically-controlled clutch system in the center differential, and any system like that could overheat with rough usage too.
@@RKmndo and thats why its not a real offroader. I put my truck in low range and go down the hill at my speed, every time, with limited/no braking.
Well, if people read the damn manual, they would find information in there regarding when to use 4-low, and how to properly engage it without damaging rhe transfer case.
The question is, “do they know how to shift it to the low gear?”
I mean, some people have driven their Tesla to a gas station. 😅
Makes sense if the gas station has electric charges, as many of them do now.
Also makes sense if they are going to a gas station for other things than gas.
Um ... where else do you think I'm going to buy gas for the mower?
@@AlanMcYou but your mower is an electric mower.
@@berniedmj1
At one house, yes it is electric. The other house came with a gas mower. A real pain in the ass really, but I only need it once a year. Pretty hard to justify a change.
I prefer 4 LOW whenever possible, as it is far easier on the transmission. This is due to the higher rotation per torque ratio that acts on the transmission as well as higher apply pressure of transmission clutches due to higher transmission pump speeds. It is a win-win.
Also useful for hooking up and moving trailers in tight/tricky spots.
My rigs don't always turn the best in 4-low. But I do use 4-low to get the camper up on leveling blocks. Works great, in fact that's one of the reasons I insisted my tow rig have 4WD.
I have heard many times. People saying they don’t even put it into 4wd until they get stuck, 4 low and or lockers are just to get you out. I think these people just enjoy being stuck.
They probably also haven’t read their manual and don’t know you’re supposed to use 4wd every so often
if you ain't getting stuck you ain't trying hard enough 😁
My 4cyl/manual YJ rarely got stuck in deep snowdrifts because it would run out of torque while trying to churn 31" mudders in 4H/1st with stock R&P gearing. I'd put it in 4L/reverse and back out of trouble, to have another go.
Bro yjs are just mad monsters my jeep goes through 4x what my buddy's new jeeps do and mine does it in 2wd low@@RKmndo
I usually wheel my XJ in 2wd as long as I can 😂 idk it's just fun seeing how capable it is in 2wd
As soon as I get off a graded road I put in in 4 low. I find it funny that some people think is somehow macho to do a trail without going into 4wd and especially low 4wd.
Yep, gotta leave that ego at home!
I am often with a group that does this. I feel like it is one thing as a game, like let's see how far I can go, but there's a big difference between that and puffing out your chest saying "Oh you used 4WD? I DIDN'T NEED IT!" It's kind of like using a screwdriver when you have a drill on your tool belt.
People don't seem to realize how much refusing to switch into 4WD can tear up the trails too. I get that it's a fun challenge, but people need to show some basic respect for the trails and save that stuff for OHV areas that are already chopped up.
It drives me especially crazy as someone who frequently has to use these dirt access roads for work. A beat up trail can be fun on my own time in my own truck. Trying to get a bone stock fleet truck through them in a timely manner... not so much.
I also see a lot of people that refuse to air down And they Just fly Like a Bad out Of hell
In a stick shift you just go into 1st just below idle speed then clutch in and yank back to 4L
I always cringe a bit when a random guy from the group pipes up with “i havent even take it out of 2 high yet” like dude its not contest to idle 2k higher than the group. Your rig will thank you on the ascent by not puking coolant all over the trail or grenading a set if ring gears pulling 100% when they could have been pulling 50:50
Great to have no worries but this nonsense! Sorry but I can’t get into this mindset. But good for you if you like it. 😂😂can you do this without a flannel shirt?
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Great to have no worries but this nonsense! Sorry but I can’t get into this mindset. But good for you if you like it. 😂😂
Always unless flater trail or in-between trails , ive had less issues with trans getting hot when in low
Slow speeds going thru trails and technical turns and speed hills also helps keep the transmission temps down. If I pull a heavy trailer Offroad and am under 20 mph I’ll go to 4low and the transmission never gets hot.
I see this a lot while offroading
It's wild that my Pro4X has a lower gear ratio than the Rubicon. 4low is my go-to for steep ascents but more so the control on steep descents is significantly better than the hill descent feature
actually the #1 mistake new off roaders make.... buying a Jeep.
I love this kind of advice! I bought a Rubicon a while ago and I really love it. But I do have to learn how to use its features better. I've been to Moab, Little Moab, Hurricane, through the mountains, etc... The Jeep is just a fantastic vehicle for the trails. It's just wide enough too.
If someone doesn’t know how to shift into 4 low, you shouldn’t hit the trails until you figure that out, otherwise you got no business out there
I hate to break it to you, but that's just as true on the roads. Yet half the people there are so clueless you wonder how they managed to even pass the driver's test.
To anyone who doesn't know he built the Red 392 JL, his wife's yellow 2 Door JL, and the kitted out Silver JK
I aspire to be like this man, good morals and attitude; and even better taste in jeeps
I have a great video on how to engage your jeep into 4Low incase anyone wants to check it out
I was taught 4L before I was shown 4H. 😂 74' Land cruiser 1st gear 4L crawl while I walk next to it.
Advice from the guy who just made his first payment.
Jeep con transmisión automática no es Jeep. Un Willys M38A1 con caja manual si es un original y verdadero Jeep 😊
One way to remember to use 4 low is ; if you wish to “crawl “ over an obstacle, then put it in 4 low before you start your clime or descent: CRAWL-4LOW
Thank you Brad, and like others said select low in your automatic transmission as well for those steep climbs and decent, and let the engine braking help you as you slowly descend, unless of course if your modern 4x4 has hill decent mode then let it do it’s job 👍🏼
It's difficult when you have a an automatic jeep TJ that in the literal owners manual it states even if done correctly as an automatic there is a flaw where it will grind gears and get stuck in neutral
When it comes time to shift your vehicle, it comes down to personal opinion on when it may be necessary and that can be based on experience. You have your opinion on when it's necessary and that doesn't mean that new off-roaders are uneducated or don't know. Your entire video is basically asserting your opinion as the correct way to do everything but fails to recognize that perhaps you're just being a baby and putting your vehicle into four low way before it's anywhere is necessary because you're so inexperienced and uncomfortable driving in those different road conditions that you're not capable of actually doing it without having your vehicle and for low. Maybe you're just not a good enough driver to be able to handle these things without having your vehicle shifted into four low
If you need a UA-cam video to have somebody tell you when to engage low range, you would be better off staying on a road.
4Lo is trouble when it coms to mud.
Lo range does NOT help on a muddy slick downhill. No tires is designed for that. The tires will not clean out nor grab unless the wheel speed is tremendous. Impossible to do riding the brakes.
On hardpack or rock, it really matters if you have open diffs or lockers, too.
Many 4WD systems are not full time, too.
I just like to wheel in 2wd, if stuff gets sketchy, go to 4HI, and if its a little sketchier, go to 4LO. To each his own. I'm not saying this guy is wrong (i feel like its pretty obvious, but im gonna say it just in case), just sharing what i do as another perspective on it.
Only something a Jeep owner would have to explain 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Another mistake if I may is not buying a Toyota for anything strenuous. They offer the highest quality and most reliable vehicles on the road…
Who are these “people”?
I was using 4low in my first car at sixteen.
Lucky me, that “car” was a 4Runner :)
My 05 Yukon when 4low works. My 4runner technical or steep descent.
I don’t off-road. Nor do I have a 4x4 vehicle, but what is the difference between 4-low and 4-hi? o:
I used 4L for the 1st time and my Jeep kept launching forward with high rpm’s when I barely stepped on the gas. Is that normal? Didn’t feel normal. I have manual if that matters. 4H drives like normal.
A general rule that I tell people is this: if the conditions of the road require you to drive slow enough to allow 4L then you should just use 4L. I say 15mph or under. Once they get more experience they will learn for themselves what kind of terrain works best in 4L.
I don’t think you can get any more torque by shifting into 4 low. Maximum torque is from the engine, and transfer case does not do any magic. Exact same torque, only more force with a higher gear ratio.
It's in general a good idea to put the JK and JL in 4Low even when it could handle the trail in 4High. This is especially true for the Diesel. The gearbox gets far too hot in 4High. The Diesel has a lot of torque and with this the JK could handle harder trails in 4High but the converter gets very hot.
I got a 2020 Ram 1500 that I recently took off-roading, kept it 4Lo the entire time. I didnt even need to give it gas when I was going through trails, the truck would pull itself through all I had to do was keep my foot over the brake pedal for when I needed to slow down. Only time I got stuck is when it got high centered cause its still sitting at stock height, but other than that one time the truck did perfectly climbed up near vertical hills like they were nothing
You are also running much higher transmission/ T-case temps in low range. We dont like doing that any more than necessary when ambient temps are over 100°F
Cannot buy skills. I have been doing offroad recovery since the 80's
It’s great and sad that you made this video. If someone is “off-roading” and doesn’t have the knowledge of how to shift in 4 lo might need to keep their off roaring to dirt road sections between asphalt roads.
And it gives you no wheel speed this guy has never gone through a puddle or on a real hill.. crawling is for babies
People also don't know how cruise control works....or passing lanes
Good info. Theres also a note on usage. I came from swampy delta land. Lows not that great in mud. Wheel speed to clear tread makes a diff. On rock and trail. Def low. Gotta know your rig combination and capabilities
It amazes me how many people do not have mechanical knowledge. I do the high mountain passes in CO, going down steep stretches in 4 low really helps, use engine braking and let it go slow with no foot on the brake pedal.
:30 sup with that trac bar tie rod alignment?
You can always tell a city slicker from us country bumpkins in a Jeep too…🤠🤣 Concrete Jungle does not = Off the beaten path..😁
Or if you're an SSG in the army, and you have no idea how 4 wheel drive works, you slam that hmmwv transfer case lever while still in motion, and ignore the horrible grinding sound.
I use 2wd till I need 4wd, going back to 2wd after the need for 4wd is complete.
In 4wd I use 4 low almost always.
Man, those old four wheelers were tough to get into 4low. My '96 Explorer, I'd just flip a switch.
I use 4 low when driving up the ramps to change the oil. So much more controlled, don't even need to use the gas pedal.
"going through some stuff through the day" means maybe a yellow curb at Walmart
4L is my go to, I don't off road much.....I have a 2018 JL sport s 2dr, do some of the easier trails like Burns canyon.