Citadel - Top 85 Games for the BBC Micro (7)

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  • Опубліковано 12 лис 2024

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  • @BenLawrenceWriter
    @BenLawrenceWriter Рік тому +2

    It's a beautiful game to look at, immersive to wander around in, and even as a layperson I can tell it's brilliant programming. I'd happily live in Citadel, if there was a coffeeshop.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Yes, you can happily lose yourself in the game and just enjoy the ride!

  • @garethjones2746
    @garethjones2746 Рік тому +2

    Wondered when this gem would hit your list. Absolutely loved this game. I only just noticed this upload, gutted I missed it til now. Super review

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +1

      Aw, thanks! Very glad you enjoyed it - the review and the game 😀

    • @garethjones2746
      @garethjones2746 Рік тому

      @@ColinHoad still wondering what your number 1 is gonna be

  • @andymcbride3478
    @andymcbride3478 Рік тому +1

    Great video of a classic game. Brought back many happy memories, thank you

  • @Hellastreet700
    @Hellastreet700 Рік тому +2

    This games just oozes atmosphere , classic stuff 👍

  • @VengerVideoGamer
    @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому +7

    Just to correct you a little, Colin. You actually have to get the chicken from the freezer, cook it in the fireplace and then use it in the room where you said you had to use the crystals. The place where you have to put the crystals is actually very nearby. You've sparked a little bit of a desire in me to do a walkthrough (even though I'm sure there's already one somewhere on UA-cam). I've never played it on the BBC though as I had an Electron.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Ah, thank you! The old memory isn't what it once was, I must have mixed a few things up in my head - thanks for the correction 😄 I'd love to see a full walkthrough, much more engaging than a text-based one. Go for it!

    • @VengerVideoGamer
      @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому +1

      @@ColinHoad if I get the time I'll have a go on the weekend.

    • @NickyNustar
      @NickyNustar Рік тому

      Hilarious. Pedantry has never had a finer point in eternal space time than this night. Well done.

    • @VengerVideoGamer
      @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому

      @@NickyNustar Hilarious. Pretentious 🔔 end takes the time to comment on a thread that has nothing to do with him. Stick to making shitty "art house" films that have about 5 views and getting drunk; it seems that's what you do best from your painfully boring channel 🙄. Bravo 👏.

  • @NeoMK27
    @NeoMK27 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic arcade adventure for the Beeb. Has everything you could want from a puzzle platformer. Would have been in my top 5, so you must have a very strong top 6!

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Well, I think it's strong, but I can only hope you agree! 😅

  • @Rikky2000
    @Rikky2000 Рік тому +2

    This game was awesome. Never completed it. Think this would be in my top 3 of all time games. An absolute classic.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +1

      One of the all time classics for the Beeb, no doubt about it!

  • @LeShark75
    @LeShark75 Рік тому +1

    I completed this many times on the Electron when I was a kid. I truly wonderful game.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +1

      Congrats! You must have played it a lot 😀

    • @LeShark75
      @LeShark75 Рік тому

      That I did Sir, but I struggled finding one of the crystals so I wrote to Superior for help. Turns out it was in a tower on the roof of the Citadel, I think it has a C indicating a door and you had to jump on the icon to enter, a little like getting into the Witch's House via the chimney.

  • @philingram1277
    @philingram1277 Рік тому +2

    Such a great game, lost hours at this, both myself and my brother. We mapped it all out and worked out how to complete it, such a balanced great game.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Congrats! Mapping it all out and deciphering the cryptic puzzles is a huge part of what makes this game (and the ones it inspired) so special 😊

  • @VengerVideoGamer
    @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому +2

    One of my all-time favourite games. I've lost count of the number of times I completed it, back in the day.

    • @Rikky2000
      @Rikky2000 Рік тому +1

      You managed to complete it??? Many times? 🙂

    • @VengerVideoGamer
      @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому +1

      @@Rikky2000 yeah, loads of times. It used to take around 90 minutes, depending on how many bluestones I used to take to Stonehenge to get extra energy. It was quite an easy game, once you knew where to use everything. I've completed it with way over 100 energy left in the past. I had it on the Electron though, I never had a BBC back in the day. I didn't have a colour TV back in the mid 80's either, so I did it in black and white 😂.

    • @Rikky2000
      @Rikky2000 Рік тому +1

      @@VengerVideoGamer Much respect! 😀👏

    • @VengerVideoGamer
      @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому +1

      @@Rikky2000 thanks. If you're interested, I've got a number of BBC game walkthroughs on my channel. Mainly games from the high score competition on the Stardot Forums. Feel free to have a browse 🙂.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Wow, in black & white?! That's next level hard!

  • @mattmyers9351
    @mattmyers9351 Рік тому +2

    Great video Colin!

  • @SentinelProxima
    @SentinelProxima Рік тому +2

    Very interesting. I knew of this game, of course -- one of my friends from the Repton UA-cam community, KatieRoseine, has done a walkthrough series of it. Never got round to playing it myself. I am definitely interested in exploring the games of this genre, though -- one thing I have in mind as a potential future project is to do a Let's Play series and try to solve them for myself, constructing maps as I go along. I'll keep you posted if I ever get that started!

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Sounds like a great idea! 😀

  • @keyscompany
    @keyscompany Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Colin, for another awesome video. Something that might help you avoid monsters in the sea is the fast descent feature - pressing down and jump. Palace of Magic also has this feature.
    I would have put Citadel at number one but I've been playing it for longer than I can remember so I'm sort of in no position to judge. It's amazing to think that Michael Jacobson was only 19 when he wrote it. The sound of your character's energy slowly ebbing away, those monks, the whole game has a slightly eerie quality combined with solid game mechanics and an open feel since you can solve the puzzles in any order. Something which keeps it interesting even after finishing it. The gameplay was always fair by design and Citadel can never be placed in an unwinnable state (low energy aside). Plus it has a really cool psychedelic ending sequence. Happy days.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Thank you! It won't surprise you to learn that every game in the top 10 was a contender for the no. 1 spot when I made my list - Citadel perhaps more than most. As you say, there's so much in its favour and everything combines to produce something really special. Thanks for the underwater tip, too!

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames Рік тому +1

    A very enjoyable video. I am one of your viewers who has never used a Beeb. I am so old that the only computer I used at school, which I left in 1969, was a slide rule! I have recently dabbled with emulation, but haven’t progressed beyond Chuckie Egg.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I've got a slide rule that belonged to my grandfather - but I must confess, I don't know how to use it 😅

    • @Colin_Ames
      @Colin_Ames Рік тому

      @@ColinHoad I was lucky. My dad was a draughtsman, he taught me how to use the slide rule. Of course, I wouldn’t know how to now, so long ago.

  • @gamingchinchilla7323
    @gamingchinchilla7323 Рік тому +1

    I'd argue these sort of games can be classified as Metroidvanias. Large explorable maps and all that.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +2

      I believe Exile is considered a very early Metroidvania prototype, yes!

  • @diminished7318
    @diminished7318 Рік тому +1

    Been waiting for this one. Unfortunately UA-cam deletes my comment if I attempt to link to anything, so you'll have to find these on Stardot:
    1. We have the source code, some early versions, and various development assets, thanks to the author. I wrote a detailed report on these discs.
    2. For veterans, I developed an Item Randomiser. This shuffles the locations of the items into a guaranteed-solvable permutation, forcing the player to develop a novel route in order to complete it.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Thank you! I'd seen some of the posts on the source code but not the item randomiser - will check that out 😀 (Not that I've yet completed Citadel on the original item locations, admittedly 😅)

  • @MajorT0m
    @MajorT0m Рік тому +1

    Fantastic game, properly scary too at points too, like when the Witch comes after you.. and the stocks of dormant baddies in The Lab I think it was. And the Star Port dish ominously staring up into the heavens affected me so much as a kid, I get the same apprehension every time I see a radiotelescope as an adult 🤭

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +1

      It's funny how these simple 8-bit graphics can "scar" you like that for years afterwards, isn't it? Just like the tarantula in Boffin, I can never quite get that image out of my head 😅

  • @victoriamcf2856
    @victoriamcf2856 2 місяці тому +1

    I loved Citadel. The first game I ever saw where I could play as a girl. I’m not a gamer now but this has very fond memories

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  2 місяці тому +1

      You're right, it's the earliest game I can remember where that was the case - and a great game it was, too 😀

  • @gubbins1622
    @gubbins1622 Рік тому +2

    I spent soo many hours on this game it's unreal, can't recall however if I ever finished it 🤷‍

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      The difficulty is pitched at just the right level - hard enough to stay challenging but not so punishingly hard as to make you give up!

  • @Tetlee
    @Tetlee Рік тому +1

    This looks brilliant, and I must be one of the few that has never played it. Until recently I only ever got to play the Beeb at school so depended on either finding game disks people left around or games people brought in, so there were tons I missed out on. Great vid as usual.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I was one of those kids that brought in games to school to use on the one Beeb we had in our primary school wet play room 😁 (surprise, surprise!)

  • @jimmyporter8941
    @jimmyporter8941 Рік тому +1

    Played most classic games for the Beeb, and heard of Citadel, but never played it or even seen it.

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      Now that you've seen it, are you tempted to try it? 😀

  • @VengerVideoGamer
    @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому +2

    I've just finished the walkthrough and posted it to UA-cam. I hope you don't mind if I post the link on here?

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому

      I don't mind at all, but UA-cam might 😅 I've noticed it tends to auto-delete comments with URLs in them 🤔

    • @VengerVideoGamer
      @VengerVideoGamer Рік тому

      @@ColinHoad Let's give it a try... 😂
      ua-cam.com/video/LflaPIyDe2E/v-deo.html

  • @stevesgaming7475
    @stevesgaming7475 Рік тому +1

    I never had this and I'll tell you why but don't laugh! I saw it in the shop and looking at the screenshots on the box, I thought it looked a bit like Castlequest and I bought castlequest and hated it within minutes of first loading it. So yeah, that's why I avoided Citadel. ..Stupid I know :(

    • @ColinHoad
      @ColinHoad  Рік тому +1

      I won't laugh if you promise not to laugh that I've... never played Castlequest! It's famous, but just not a game I ever had back in the day nor one I've tried since. I must give it a go one day, but for now I'm afraid I can't tell you whether Citadel is or isn't similar to Castlequest! 😂

    • @NeoMK27
      @NeoMK27 Рік тому

      Castle Quest has a nice title tune and it comes in a lovely wallet, but the game itself is ridiculously hard and very unforgiving. Perhaps I never gave it a fair chance at the time, but no one I knew could get anywhere with it. Chalk and cheese really.